Since you seem convinced MS Office is leading cause it uses "special API calls", would you care to point out anything microsoft does in MS Office which seems IMPOSSIBLE to do in windows without secret API calls?
Known example: Back in 1996, Powerpoint 4.0 (and an MS Outlook beta) used an undocumented method in Microsoft's 32-bit implementation of Winsock 1.1, which meant that if you used another vendor's implementation (ie. either Trumpet or FTP Software's), those programs would crash.
Microsoft acknowledged the error when FTP pointed it out, and submitted a patch for Powerpoint; the call was also gone in the finished Outlook product.
In this case, the Winsock standard is AFAIK administered by another company (Stardust) in agreement with Microsoft, FTP Software (early implementors of TCP/IP on DOS and Windows) and Sun (back when they were happier with Microsoft).
Did those Renaissance cats need platoons of lawyers to protect their IP rights to keep the wolf from the door?
Of course not: They created the art for the aristocrats and merchants which commisioned them. The aristocrats, in turn, got the money they paid the artists from their underlings who did manual labour.
"Free" intellectual property is thus a child of oppression and exploitation. It saddens me that "liberals" promote this evil curse on the masses. 'Yes, you are starving, but look at the nice painting which resulted from the taxes I levied on you!'
No one ever makes a living writing software if they allow it to be copied freely?
Well, sure: You can just find someone willing to pay for it, like IBM or Microsoft, who make money in other markets. I believe a lot of insanely rich Colombian drug lords are in need of good PR, perhaps funding some open source efforts would be right up their alley?
Okay, so they observe that copyright and patent laws are being exploited by their Evil Corporation stereotype, that the laws are badly worded and that their intent is gone. Plus they can write a lot of rhetoric.
But is the solution really to abolish copyright and patents? You won't prevent the Evil Corporation from making and profiting from the product, either manufacturing the formerly-patentable thing or printing the formerly copyrighted novel. All you "gain" is that the originator loses any compensation for spending their time thinking out whatever no longer is protected.
They come off as a bunch of political quacks who prefer their utopian fantasy to dealing with reality.
There is no better format for any kind of International standard.
And the number of languages in the World which can be expressed fully in ASCII is still zero. Sorry, no way people are going to limit themselves so badly. Microsoft Word, being a COM application should (in theory) support Unicode, and thus have a far greater coverage.
Also, the concept of "word processor" includes some formatting which goes beyond form feed and carriage return.
I hope this IS a hoax, if not, I'd think everyone SHOULD lose an faith in Sun.
Um, Sun and its associates have had Java on embedded devices, smart-cards etc. for years. It's these "revolutionary" guys who are late to the game.
Why does/. give space to all these non-news items? What's next, someone discovering that a processor can be run faster by cooling it? That would rellay be a revelation.
Are you saying Netscape Navigator 4.08 for Windows is extra-ordinary? Its JVM ships with the Symantec JIT compiler, which Sun also used until Hotspot came along. Microsoft probably uses their own proprietary thang as well; at least their JVM is much faster than Sun's.
This seems like a wasted effort - an effort that could have gone to better things.
Be sure to complain that people shouldn't decide for themselves what to spend their time and energy on whenever someone e.g. ports Linux to another platform, or spend time writing useless code instead of helping starving children in Africa.
umm, it's property because and only because it's been defined that way, legally speaking.
Umm, any notion of "property" exists because it's been defined legally as such.
If someone has an apple but is not hungry, then they should have no right denying that apple to someone who is hungry. After all, did the person who picked it ask the tree for permission to take it? "From each according to ability, to each according to need" and all that, you know.
Anything that can be manufactured can be manufactured again if needed.
It appears he hates Unix, not software as such. But he makes the same error as most other who do, he equates newbie unfriendly with user unfriendly. Which are not the same at all.
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Extremely bad point. Any particular reason why you think there should be more blood, sweat, tears and long lonely hours in the world? Or are you just evil?
You're pathetic. If someone expends effort to create something and wants compensation, you have no right to deny them this. If you do not want to pay, you can go and create yourself instead.
Spot the difference?
Not for the original creator, who still expends time and effort. If there is no return, there will be no incentive to create "intellectually" as a way to make a living: You would be surprised at the number of stores which do not accept the zero money 'your' artists get for their labour as payment.
I do want stuff for free, but I am able to and willing to give away stuff for free as well. Thus I do not fit the definition.
Why not? You give away stuff for free because you have another source of 'income'. You're basically advocating that creation of intellectual property should be a hobby, not someone's job, which is another way of putting yourself in my "category 3".
Based on your "category 5", it seems you are willing to ruin the livelihood of artists because of the existance of corporations who profit from them. Your black and white world view apparently has no shades.
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Do we both have the blood, sweat, tears and long lonely hours that went into creating it?
Good point.
"Hi, I spent two years of my life writing this novel. Will you pay me for it?"
"No, it's the reault of intellectual work - not real work, which is manual. It is evil to pay for 'labour' which does not produce physical goods."
"Guess I should have taken a menial job instead of contributing to culture."
The opposition to intellectual property seem to come from varying sources:
Those unable to produce any of the kind,
Those longing for old-fashioned systems of artists sponsored by rich aristocrats/businessmen's blood money,
Old-fashioned industrialists who believe that only manual labour represents valuable work,
Leeches who want stuff for free,
...
The opponents to IP should check which category they belong to, and find out if they like being there.
Am I the only person who gets really annoyed by all the over-zealous Dreamcast advocates who apparently run to the web-connected machines in the library during lunch period so they can defend Sega's honor?
Dunno, I don't Sega see them because 0wnz all the Sony fanboys who U moderate them down below my threshold.
Their so called support for css is the weakest of all browsers that I have seen.
More bull. For CSS1, the only thing Opera 4.02 didn't support was "white-space: nobreak" - they do now in 5.0. MSIE produces gibberish for a simple thing like "font-face: sans-serif" - ergo, for CSS1 it's better. I haven't seen any tests for CSS2, but they claim full support except for aural CSS.
Pages dont look as nice on opera as they do on IE, Mozilla or even Netscape 4.7 at times
That's because lazy authors cannot write proper HTML. For instance, Opera respects width of table cells, whereas MSIE ignores it for table cells containing an image. So what in effect is a bug in MSIE leads an author to believe that their HTML is fine when it's not.
Further, what is "better" is in the eye of the beholder. If the goal was for everything to look the same in all browsers, we'd only need one anyway.
where the heck did that whole "Weirding Module" thing come from???
Well, it works better on film than the book's droning on about Water of Life and Death and so on. Dune is a very talkative and "thinkative" book - I am very impressed over what David Lynch got out of it, though I'd have liked to see what was there before di Laurentiis raped it with his scissors. For instance, Gurney Hallec is hardly there in the film, but is very significant in the book.
why did Stilgar (when grabbed by an unarmed Jessica) say "Stand back, she knows the Weirding Way"?????
Presumably a different version of the book's
'[...]Great Gods below! Why didn't you say you were a weirding woman and a fighter?'
Spoken by someone who obviously never used the product. Opera is superior in all aspects which do not involve Netscape and Microsoft's proprietary extensions: It has better configurability, better keyboard navigation, better download management, etc.
Oh, and the other browsers aren't free either, they're subsidized by large corporations who make money selling other products. Opera's browser is their only product, thus that model cannot work for them.
The upgrade from 4.02 to 5.0 (for Windows) is free, has no ads
I can attest to this: No ads here after installing over my old 3.62 dirs (I keep the 4.02 install on the side, just in case...)
Biggest advances for me are small: navigator.plugin reports correctly to Javascripts, and when keyboard-navigating in forms, a selected radio-button will be highlighted. (Earlier, you just had to guess if it was, try it, or navigate to a form element which did show focus, then navigate back again.)
True, you can have MyObject forward requests for BaseDynComponent and BaseReqCorba, but you can only have one interface of which it is an implementor of. (one pure virtual base class).
Is that C++? Because in Java, you can implement as many interfaces you like: You have multiple inheritance of type, which is the useful one. Multiple inheritance of implementation means a class tries to behave like two different classes instead of itself, which is yucky in a Clive Barker kind of way.
Any idea what Netscape's browser share is like, especially with the release of Netscape 6?
No, but I'd like to shear the web-DUH-signers who have made the very concept of "browser share" necessary. What was wrong with writing proper HTML in the first place, you clueless nits!
Okay, granted that maybe.00385 (rounded) percent of MP3's might actually be legal "everybody's happy" MP3's, but pretty much all of the rest of them are illegal.
Fantastic logic. So, if I should declare - in my own arbitrary way - that 99% of all JPEG files out there are pr0n, it will justify deleting all.jpg files on a server?
Face it, the ISP just has some PHB-inspired and MOO-dia driven paranoia. MPEG layer 3 is one of many audio file formats - why should a pirated song in a different format be allowed (which it appears to be, implicitly)?
There apparently was/is a "rouge" DNS server handling the.web TLD, though not everyone elses DNS servers point to it. Some do, apparently, thus creating the "unofficial" status.
You know what are you talking about? The M$ JVM SUCKS!
Um, no. For an 1.1.x VM on Windows, it beats Sun's to the ground in speed. And the Windows specific extensions are easy to use. It has some drawbacks (such as needing RMI added, and JNI was added a bit late in the game) but is excellent for running e.g. Swing apps.
But Netscape's JVM? Please! They took forever to support the 1.1 AWT event model, never supported java.security.*, not to mention the incredibly long load time if you didn't use -start_java.
No wonder they dropped it for Sun's JRE.
But tell me, does it still open and close a HTTP connection for each and every class file it wants from the server instead of keep a single connection alive like MSIE does? How stupid could they get? Gah!
Let us raise taxes so we can pay people to play with legos instead of letting you finance a home or send your kids to college with your money.
No need for that, just get your "gummint" to spend it more wisely. (Aka. "you have spent how many trillion building nuclear weapons you know you won't use?")
Also I seem to have read somewhere that the U.S. Government - and other administrative bodies down the line - use a much higher percentage on pure administering (aka. themselves) than e.g. European governments. Time to look at the system?
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Known example: Back in 1996, Powerpoint 4.0 (and an MS Outlook beta) used an undocumented method in Microsoft's 32-bit implementation of Winsock 1.1, which meant that if you used another vendor's implementation (ie. either Trumpet or FTP Software's), those programs would crash.
Microsoft acknowledged the error when FTP pointed it out, and submitted a patch for Powerpoint; the call was also gone in the finished Outlook product.
In this case, the Winsock standard is AFAIK administered by another company (Stardust) in agreement with Microsoft, FTP Software (early implementors of TCP/IP on DOS and Windows) and Sun (back when they were happier with Microsoft).
Of course not: They created the art for the aristocrats and merchants which commisioned them. The aristocrats, in turn, got the money they paid the artists from their underlings who did manual labour.
"Free" intellectual property is thus a child of oppression and exploitation. It saddens me that "liberals" promote this evil curse on the masses. 'Yes, you are starving, but look at the nice painting which resulted from the taxes I levied on you!'
No one ever makes a living writing software if they allow it to be copied freely?
Well, sure: You can just find someone willing to pay for it, like IBM or Microsoft, who make money in other markets. I believe a lot of insanely rich Colombian drug lords are in need of good PR, perhaps funding some open source efforts would be right up their alley?
Who live off the handouts of the rich and idle... Ah, to be back in medieval times!
Okay, so they observe that copyright and patent laws are being exploited by their Evil Corporation stereotype, that the laws are badly worded and that their intent is gone. Plus they can write a lot of rhetoric.
But is the solution really to abolish copyright and patents? You won't prevent the Evil Corporation from making and profiting from the product, either manufacturing the formerly-patentable thing or printing the formerly copyrighted novel. All you "gain" is that the originator loses any compensation for spending their time thinking out whatever no longer is protected.
They come off as a bunch of political quacks who prefer their utopian fantasy to dealing with reality.
Only because you choose to either use the incorrect spelling of certain words (writing touché as touche) or drop them altogether.
And the number of languages in the World which can be expressed fully in ASCII is still zero. Sorry, no way people are going to limit themselves so badly. Microsoft Word, being a COM application should (in theory) support Unicode, and thus have a far greater coverage.
Also, the concept of "word processor" includes some formatting which goes beyond form feed and carriage return.
Um, Sun and its associates have had Java on embedded devices, smart-cards etc. for years. It's these "revolutionary" guys who are late to the game.
Why does /. give space to all these non-news items? What's next, someone discovering that a processor can be run faster by cooling it? That would rellay be a revelation.
Are you saying Netscape Navigator 4.08 for Windows is extra-ordinary? Its JVM ships with the Symantec JIT compiler, which Sun also used until Hotspot came along. Microsoft probably uses their own proprietary thang as well; at least their JVM is much faster than Sun's.
Be sure to complain that people shouldn't decide for themselves what to spend their time and energy on whenever someone e.g. ports Linux to another platform, or spend time writing useless code instead of helping starving children in Africa.
Umm, any notion of "property" exists because it's been defined legally as such.
If someone has an apple but is not hungry, then they should have no right denying that apple to someone who is hungry. After all, did the person who picked it ask the tree for permission to take it? "From each according to ability, to each according to need" and all that, you know. Anything that can be manufactured can be manufactured again if needed.
It appears he hates Unix, not software as such. But he makes the same error as most other who do, he equates newbie unfriendly with user unfriendly. Which are not the same at all.
You're pathetic. If someone expends effort to create something and wants compensation, you have no right to deny them this. If you do not want to pay, you can go and create yourself instead.
Spot the difference?
Not for the original creator, who still expends time and effort. If there is no return, there will be no incentive to create "intellectually" as a way to make a living: You would be surprised at the number of stores which do not accept the zero money 'your' artists get for their labour as payment.
I do want stuff for free, but I am able to and willing to give away stuff for free as well. Thus I do not fit the definition.
Why not? You give away stuff for free because you have another source of 'income'. You're basically advocating that creation of intellectual property should be a hobby, not someone's job, which is another way of putting yourself in my "category 3".
Based on your "category 5", it seems you are willing to ruin the livelihood of artists because of the existance of corporations who profit from them. Your black and white world view apparently has no shades.
Good point.
The opposition to intellectual property seem to come from varying sources:
The opponents to IP should check which category they belong to, and find out if they like being there.
Dunno, I don't Sega see them because 0wnz all the Sony fanboys who U moderate them down below my threshold.
A well-behaved Dreamcast isn't supposed to run anything else than Soul Calibur.
More bull. For CSS1, the only thing Opera 4.02 didn't support was "white-space: nobreak" - they do now in 5.0. MSIE produces gibberish for a simple thing like "font-face: sans-serif" - ergo, for CSS1 it's better. I haven't seen any tests for CSS2, but they claim full support except for aural CSS.
Pages dont look as nice on opera as they do on IE, Mozilla or even Netscape 4.7 at times
That's because lazy authors cannot write proper HTML. For instance, Opera respects width of table cells, whereas MSIE ignores it for table cells containing an image. So what in effect is a bug in MSIE leads an author to believe that their HTML is fine when it's not.
Further, what is "better" is in the eye of the beholder. If the goal was for everything to look the same in all browsers, we'd only need one anyway.
Well, it works better on film than the book's droning on about Water of Life and Death and so on. Dune is a very talkative and "thinkative" book - I am very impressed over what David Lynch got out of it, though I'd have liked to see what was there before di Laurentiis raped it with his scissors. For instance, Gurney Hallec is hardly there in the film, but is very significant in the book.
why did Stilgar (when grabbed by an unarmed Jessica) say "Stand back, she knows the Weirding Way"?????
Presumably a different version of the book's
Spoken by someone who obviously never used the product. Opera is superior in all aspects which do not involve Netscape and Microsoft's proprietary extensions: It has better configurability, better keyboard navigation, better download management, etc.
Oh, and the other browsers aren't free either, they're subsidized by large corporations who make money selling other products. Opera's browser is their only product, thus that model cannot work for them.
I can attest to this: No ads here after installing over my old 3.62 dirs (I keep the 4.02 install on the side, just in case...)
Biggest advances for me are small: navigator.plugin reports correctly to Javascripts, and when keyboard-navigating in forms, a selected radio-button will be highlighted. (Earlier, you just had to guess if it was, try it, or navigate to a form element which did show focus, then navigate back again.)
Is that C++? Because in Java, you can implement as many interfaces you like: You have multiple inheritance of type, which is the useful one. Multiple inheritance of implementation means a class tries to behave like two different classes instead of itself, which is yucky in a Clive Barker kind of way.
No, but I'd like to shear the web-DUH-signers who have made the very concept of "browser share" necessary. What was wrong with writing proper HTML in the first place, you clueless nits!
Fantastic logic. So, if I should declare - in my own arbitrary way - that 99% of all JPEG files out there are pr0n, it will justify deleting all .jpg files on a server?
Face it, the ISP just has some PHB-inspired and MOO-dia driven paranoia. MPEG layer 3 is one of many audio file formats - why should a pirated song in a different format be allowed (which it appears to be, implicitly)?
There apparently was/is a "rouge" DNS server handling the .web TLD, though not everyone elses DNS servers point to it. Some do, apparently, thus creating the "unofficial" status.
Um, no. For an 1.1.x VM on Windows, it beats Sun's to the ground in speed. And the Windows specific extensions are easy to use. It has some drawbacks (such as needing RMI added, and JNI was added a bit late in the game) but is excellent for running e.g. Swing apps.
But Netscape's JVM? Please! They took forever to support the 1.1 AWT event model, never supported java.security.*, not to mention the incredibly long load time if you didn't use -start_java.
No wonder they dropped it for Sun's JRE.
But tell me, does it still open and close a HTTP connection for each and every class file it wants from the server instead of keep a single connection alive like MSIE does? How stupid could they get? Gah!
No need for that, just get your "gummint" to spend it more wisely. (Aka. "you have spent how many trillion building nuclear weapons you know you won't use?")
Also I seem to have read somewhere that the U.S. Government - and other administrative bodies down the line - use a much higher percentage on pure administering (aka. themselves) than e.g. European governments. Time to look at the system?