I would question whether our activities are the sole or even the primary cause of the growth in CO2. However, you leave out one thing I can question as well, which is do the fact that the CO2 concentrations are rising and temperatures are rising even imply that the CO2 rise is the cause of the temperature rise? Correlation does not imply causation, you know.
The Earth has been here a lot longer than the 100 years since mankind has started producing mass quantities of CO2. CO2 levels have been much higher than they are right now in the geologic history of the Earth. Further, a lot of the climate change proponent scientists have been proven to have been knowingly using bad science to scare people into an agenda.
When will Slashdot stop drinking the climate change Kool-Aid?
Did you look at the source to make sure they aren't compressing the XML as they send it? It would take more CPU to do that, but in general CPU isn't the problem nowadays.
I don't need a new OS at this moment, but if this all shakes out as bad as it sounds, I'm never even going to try to install another MS OS. They see the train coming through their tunnel and they're trying to grab as much money as they can before they get run over.
At this point I'm willing to feel the pain of retraining my family rather than paying the cost of Windows.
It's too late to change the design once you've made it to Beta. Beta testing is about finding the obvious bugs in the system so they don't end up in the final version. If they tried to fix all their design errors after beta they'd never release anything.
If the problem is bandwidth then that can be solved by a bandwidth cap not a storage limit. A storage limit is the wrong way to solve the problem, as a matter of fact.
Let me see if I've got this right. What you're saying is that even if it took the same amount of energy to extract the necessary hydrogen from oil as it does to make gas, we'd need one quarter to one third the amount of oil that we do now to produce the same travel.
That's good but not revolutionary. Is there more room for improvement in this technology?
The fact that the parent is modded up "funny" just cracks me up! The post makes the point that people don't want to use the funny mod-point, and he gets the funny points himself! Talk about gaming the system!
Oh, like I have time to do all that. If that were really true, how come people aren't framed for crimes with this methodology all the time? Or maybe they are! Where's my tinfoil hat?
Oh, apparently the earth isn't habitable any more and nobody bothered to tell me. Give me a break. There is no life-ending catastrophe even on the most distant horizon. Even if global warming were true for example (which it's not) there would be consequences but the planet would not be rendered uninhabitable for many hundreds or thousands of years.
The Earth is a much more resilient place than people give it credit for. I'll believe the sky is falling when I see it.
The original poster did not have September 11th in mind when he/she wrote the joke. Please just take the joke at face value. Just because you don't think it's funny doesn't mean the rest of us won't be able to just laugh at the intent of the original post. Please please please just let it pass. Do not try to impose your sensitivities on the rest of us.
So after n unsuccessful knock sequence attempts from a particular IP, you start to ignore the IP. So you might get slammed for a while, but after a while the machine would wise up.
Kinda like a secret club, except you know who's on the other side of the door!;-)
It takes TIME to develop fuel cells, fusion, hydrogen, or pig-shit based energy sources.
When the time comes the time will be taken. It is human nature to not be forward thinking. I didn't say that we shouldn't be looking at alternative energy sources. I said that no critical mass will form behind the research until everybody involved is convinced that we're going to meet some catastrophe if we don't. There is absolutely no agreement with respect to how much oil/coal/gas remains in the ground, and that is why there hasn't been much time spent on alternative energy. Again, I'm not saying it's right, but rather that that's the way it is.
I did not invoke Adam Smith at any point in my post. I'm not talking about invisible hands, I'm talking about something akin to not taking the time to figure out how to prevent an asteroid from hitting us until there's one that's going to hit us. It's not wise, but people don't deal in preparing for eventualities that are uncertain to ever even happen. We're all much better at figuring out how to fix things on the fly when they become a problem. Again, that's just the way it is.
Check out this site for an alternative view of Global Warming. Essentially, the idea is that the "warming" that we've seen is due to short term (decadal) trends, not long term ones. In the 70's people were talking about another ice age. Now people are talking about global warming. There's always a lot of talk, but we don't really understand our climate. Live with it.
I'm not a libertarian. I'm a centrist. I'm a realist. The government has been trying to help out alternative energy for years, and we're not all driving electric cars recharged off the solar panels on our houses are we? It hasn't worked so far and throwing more green at it ain't going to change that.
You're right. The problem I think we have here is that there is no clear danger-wielding NEED for alternative energy sources right no. We're not near environmental collapse (even if global warming were true, which it's not). The cost of fossil fuels is still low enough that people are willing to pay it.
Governments can artificially make things more attractive (electric cars for example), but in the long run, it's going to take something big to happen before these new energy sources reach critical mass.
This BTW is similar to my belief as to why our space program has stagnated...
You're right, just because it compiles doesn't mean it's done, but if it compiles successfully for a while it does mean that not too much new is going on and it might be ready for a release.
All measurements of this kind have inaccuracies. Do you have a better one? If so, then let's hear it.
Slashdot Mirror
I would question whether our activities are the sole or even the primary cause of the growth in CO2. However, you leave out one thing I can question as well, which is do the fact that the CO2 concentrations are rising and temperatures are rising even imply that the CO2 rise is the cause of the temperature rise? Correlation does not imply causation, you know.
The Earth has been here a lot longer than the 100 years since mankind has started producing mass quantities of CO2. CO2 levels have been much higher than they are right now in the geologic history of the Earth. Further, a lot of the climate change proponent scientists have been proven to have been knowingly using bad science to scare people into an agenda.
When will Slashdot stop drinking the climate change Kool-Aid?
Did you look at the source to make sure they aren't compressing the XML as they send it? It would take more CPU to do that, but in general CPU isn't the problem nowadays.
No, this is a bad idea. You just know that that list is going to get duped 10 times.
:-)
How about a top ten list of the dupes from 2006? Then at least the dupes of that would be recursive.
I don't need a new OS at this moment, but if this all shakes out as bad as it sounds, I'm never even going to try to install another MS OS. They see the train coming through their tunnel and they're trying to grab as much money as they can before they get run over.
At this point I'm willing to feel the pain of retraining my family rather than paying the cost of Windows.
I bet they could really use some of this on the backbones of the net though. :)
Don't you think it's intentional that this was posted 36 hours after the posting of the story? I mean, come on now! Where's your sense of irony?
Imagine a Beowulf cluster of those things!
It's too late to change the design once you've made it to Beta. Beta testing is about finding the obvious bugs in the system so they don't end up in the final version. If they tried to fix all their design errors after beta they'd never release anything.
If the problem is bandwidth then that can be solved by a bandwidth cap not a storage limit. A storage limit is the wrong way to solve the problem, as a matter of fact.
They'll give me 2.6 GB for my mail, but only 100 MB for my web page? What about letting me use some of that mail storage for my web page?
The mind boggles...
In Soviet Russia pole magnetizes you!
I never could get the hang of Thursdays....
Let me see if I've got this right. What you're saying is that even if it took the same amount of energy to extract the necessary hydrogen from oil as it does to make gas, we'd need one quarter to one third the amount of oil that we do now to produce the same travel.
That's good but not revolutionary. Is there more room for improvement in this technology?
The fact that the parent is modded up "funny" just cracks me up! The post makes the point that people don't want to use the funny mod-point, and he gets the funny points himself! Talk about gaming the system!
Oh, like I have time to do all that. If that were really true, how come people aren't framed for crimes with this methodology all the time? Or maybe they are! Where's my tinfoil hat?
If that works, wouldn't we have to say:
Domo Arigato Mister Advogato
for helping me escape from all the useless sites! Thank You!
Oh, apparently the earth isn't habitable any more and nobody bothered to tell me. Give me a break. There is no life-ending catastrophe even on the most distant horizon. Even if global warming were true for example (which it's not) there would be consequences but the planet would not be rendered uninhabitable for many hundreds or thousands of years.
The Earth is a much more resilient place than people give it credit for. I'll believe the sky is falling when I see it.
The original poster did not have September 11th in mind when he/she wrote the joke. Please just take the joke at face value. Just because you don't think it's funny doesn't mean the rest of us won't be able to just laugh at the intent of the original post. Please please please just let it pass. Do not try to impose your sensitivities on the rest of us.
Inconceivable!
Han Solo is a space-cowboy
:)
That's funny, because some people call me the Space Cowboy... Or was that the Gangster of Love?
And no, I'm not going to explain it!
So after n unsuccessful knock sequence attempts from a particular IP, you start to ignore the IP. So you might get slammed for a while, but after a while the machine would wise up.
;-)
Kinda like a secret club, except you know who's on the other side of the door!
It takes TIME to develop fuel cells, fusion, hydrogen, or pig-shit based energy sources.
When the time comes the time will be taken. It is human nature to not be forward thinking. I didn't say that we shouldn't be looking at alternative energy sources. I said that no critical mass will form behind the research until everybody involved is convinced that we're going to meet some catastrophe if we don't. There is absolutely no agreement with respect to how much oil/coal/gas remains in the ground, and that is why there hasn't been much time spent on alternative energy. Again, I'm not saying it's right, but rather that that's the way it is.
I did not invoke Adam Smith at any point in my post. I'm not talking about invisible hands, I'm talking about something akin to not taking the time to figure out how to prevent an asteroid from hitting us until there's one that's going to hit us. It's not wise, but people don't deal in preparing for eventualities that are uncertain to ever even happen. We're all much better at figuring out how to fix things on the fly when they become a problem. Again, that's just the way it is.
Check out this site for an alternative view of Global Warming. Essentially, the idea is that the "warming" that we've seen is due to short term (decadal) trends, not long term ones. In the 70's people were talking about another ice age. Now people are talking about global warming. There's always a lot of talk, but we don't really understand our climate. Live with it.
I'm not a libertarian. I'm a centrist. I'm a realist. The government has been trying to help out alternative energy for years, and we're not all driving electric cars recharged off the solar panels on our houses are we? It hasn't worked so far and throwing more green at it ain't going to change that.
You're right. The problem I think we have here is that there is no clear danger-wielding NEED for alternative energy sources right no. We're not near environmental collapse (even if global warming were true, which it's not). The cost of fossil fuels is still low enough that people are willing to pay it.
Governments can artificially make things more attractive (electric cars for example), but in the long run, it's going to take something big to happen before these new energy sources reach critical mass.
This BTW is similar to my belief as to why our space program has stagnated...
This will get done. The court just has a problem with how the FTC did it. I bet if Congress passed a do not call list bill there would be no problem.
You're right, just because it compiles doesn't mean it's done, but if it compiles successfully for a while it does mean that not too much new is going on and it might be ready for a release.
All measurements of this kind have inaccuracies. Do you have a better one? If so, then let's hear it.