I really question the humanity of some of the comment posters. I mean really, what good does it do you do say really awful things about someone who has done a lot of work to help others?
I use linuxppc and its not the slickest distro but its pretty nifty and does the job well, and I get to use hardware that I might not be able to if it weren't for his work.
Are you really craving for attention? Is it my fault for posting this and giving you more attention?
I would appreciate it if some of the AC's and others who made comments above would just reply to this and comment why you feel the need to say such things. Do you not believe that Jason is a real person?
of course its in poor taste, but its obviously not serious. noone ever got the sudden urge to rape little boys by reading some flamer's post. if you read my message the reason I think its funny is that people get upset because of it. its just a stupid post but you guys think its a threat to slashdot and all our freedoms online. ITS NOT SERIOUS.
The best thing that I think that Caldera has done and many people might not know about is that they are responsible for QT becoming open source, thus ending the dreadfull gnome/kde wars. Caldera basically told Troll Tech that they wanted to do a lot of business with them but wanted QT to be opensource, so today we have the QPL and KDE and GNOME can fight on pure technical grounding.
My gripes with Caldera is that they do add too much proprietary stuff onto their OSes, both 3rd party and in house things. I hope they stay true to the Free Software roots of this business.
Caldera System's focus in NOT on the embedded market. There was a complete spinoff from caldera created just to serve the embedded market and the name of the company is Lineo. Caldera Systems is 'linux for business' whatever the hell that means, but its not 'linux for embedded' because that is the domain of Lineo.
I also agree with the other posters that Redhat will be strong in embedded with their cygnus support.
I think that Caldera is probably going to focus on the 'thin' applications, taylor made solutions, and in this realm the OS is also probably less important if you can slap on a nice interface. Thats at least what I gleamed from Ransom Love's interview on CNBC today.
I wish hehe. I'm just a 17 year old guy thats a tad too nosy when it comes to my favorite free software projects. Hey, you can hire me if you think I'm that good though.
I don't know if everyone understood the last question, but maybe I can add something.
At linuxworld in NYC last Feb, I hung out at the Helix Code booth. I was chatting with some of the dudes from there and asked him what he did. He said he works on Spidermonkey. Whats that? I asked. Well he wouldn't tell me for anything. nadda info.
So I took the rest of the conference to ask them whenever I saw someone new at their booth. They really clam up when you mention spidermonkey, start mumbling about NDA's and asking where I heard that name.
So now everyone knows the name, can anyone find out anything more about this secret project? Whatever it is they have a few developers working full time on it.
I applaud you. I feel the same way. Maybe I'm spoiled, but dammit I LIKE it, and I think that we can DO it! I would much rather pay for programs that give me freedom such as AbiWord than yet another proprietary crappy program.
I didn't HEAR anything, I read in the article that this story is about that DeRadt was critical of the development of Linux. I'll quote the original article so as not to inconvieniance you to actually read what you are talking about.
De Raadt has earned a reputation for not mincing words. He's openly critical of the process by which Linux has been developed.
In my original posting, I asked,
I was curious about the comment that Theo has been openly critical of the development of Linux. Does anyone have any information about this?
Its very clear from the article and my posting that I was refering to the development of the OS, not the actual technical merits. Both you and the Coward seem to have not seen this.
What I was looking for was a quote or further information on how DeRaadt has been critical of the development model of the os's, and how openbsd is differently and supposedly better developed than Linux.
I wasn't putting out a call for DeRaadt to defend himself. I never accused him of anything. I want to hear what he has to say instead of third person rumors.
Seems to me like you anti-linux people are a little defensive and quick to take everything as a personal attack.
FreeBSD lost the PR battle. Thats what Jordan said. FreeBSD isn't going anywhere, it will always have a nitch in the foreseeable future, but its clear that the momentum is with Linux. Don't kid yourself.
I can't believe I'm even replying to an anonymous coward who flamed Linux.
I was curious about the comment that Theo has been openly critical of the development of Linux. Does anyone have any information about this? I think Theo reads slashdot, so whats you beef with linux theo?
One of the reasons I like Linux more than BSD (other than the GPL), is that in the past the development of Linux has been more open and distributed than that of the various BSDs. I know that Jordan Hubbard has said that this was a mistake of the BSDs and a big reason why Linux beat freebsd.
and I must say that its very nice. I was in the market to get a laptop to run linux, and after I did some research on linux ppc I decided to get a 99 powerbook g3. I have *not* been disapointed:-). It has snooze (sleep), hot swapable media bays, usb, all kinds of great stuff supported by linux. I highly recommend it. The linux ppc guys have done a great job. The era of intel is coming to an end:-)
a clue. Flexibility is one of the best things about linux. I can make my computer look and run the way I want it to look and run, and you can do the same to yours. Its all about choice (FREEDOM). Thats why I use Linux, for the freedom. Most of that freedom comes from the GPL. Sure MS works, but it doesn't give you freedom. I don't understand your comment about Linux being chaotic to code for. I don't understand your comment about KDE and Gnome not designing for Linux. Theres a reason we have portable languages like C. Do you want them to code GNOME in x86 asm? No thanks, I would like to run Gnome on my apple powerbook. Smoke better crack,
whats a better license than the GPL that *ensures* that the code will always remain free? If you let people start changing the license, there is the possibility that the code will eventually end up legally in a proprietary program.
Code licensed under BSD style licenses make up an important part of every GNU/Linux distribution. However, only the GPL was designed to guarantee freedom for the users. The BSD license allows companies to horde the source code and release proprietary software using that code.
I do not think that the BSD license can compete when the big companies start getting involved in free software. The GPL makes sure everyone stays on an even playing field. Look, Solaris has been based upon BSD, as had BSDi. To my knowledge these companies have not made significant contributions to the BSD community. They have based their operating systems around proprietary improvments to the BSD codebase. Is that what you want to happen to Linux?
FreeBSD, OpenBSD, and NetBSD aren't growing as quickly as Linux, at least to my knowledge. I think a very large part of the reason Linux is popular today is because developers *like* the GPL, and users *like* the GPL.
ESR's attitude worries me somewhat. He seems to say that stability is the only thing linux has going for it. What happens if Windows starts to become more stable? Then there is no reason to use Linux.
The real reason to use Linux is the GPL. It gives users freedoms that just aren't obtainable in the Windows world. I really wish that ESR would talk about these important freedoms and get people excited instead of just saying "it doesn't crash".
I suppose this attitude is one of the differences between Open Source and Free software.
ack, that almost sounds like the windows registry. Whats wrong with splitting stuff up? Also SuSE does not release all their code under the GPL (YAST).
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I really question the humanity of some of the comment posters. I mean really, what good does it do you do say really awful things about someone who has done a lot of work to help others?
I use linuxppc and its not the slickest distro but its pretty nifty and does the job well, and I get to use hardware that I might not be able to if it weren't for his work.
Are you really craving for attention? Is it my fault for posting this and giving you more attention?
I would appreciate it if some of the AC's and others who made comments above would just reply to this and comment why you feel the need to say such things. Do you not believe that Jason is a real person?
kfort
of course its in poor taste, but its obviously not serious. noone ever got the sudden urge to rape little boys by reading some flamer's post. if you read my message the reason I think its funny is that people get upset because of it. its just a stupid post but you guys think its a threat to slashdot and all our freedoms online. ITS NOT SERIOUS.
The best thing that I think that Caldera has done and many people might not know about is that they are responsible for QT becoming open source, thus ending the dreadfull gnome/kde wars. Caldera basically told Troll Tech that they wanted to do a lot of business with them but wanted QT to be opensource, so today we have the QPL and KDE and GNOME can fight on pure technical grounding.
My gripes with Caldera is that they do add too much proprietary stuff onto their OSes, both 3rd party and in house things. I hope they stay true to the Free Software roots of this business.
kfort
Caldera System's focus in NOT on the embedded market. There was a complete spinoff from caldera created just to serve the embedded market and the name of the company is Lineo. Caldera Systems is 'linux for business' whatever the hell that means, but its not 'linux for embedded' because that is the domain of Lineo.
I also agree with the other posters that Redhat will be strong in embedded with their cygnus support.
I think that Caldera is probably going to focus on the 'thin' applications, taylor made solutions, and in this realm the OS is also probably less important if you can slap on a nice interface. Thats at least what I gleamed from Ransom Love's interview on CNBC today.
kfort
because its designed to make people react just like you did and it worked. Don't take everything so seriously
as far as I can tell, its like a mirror of dmoz.org
does anyone have anymore scoop on this?
kfort
Will you support the LSB? If not, why not?
Do you think the LSB is important to insure future compatibility and vendor support for all the Linux distributions?
kfort
I wish hehe. I'm just a 17 year old guy thats a tad too nosy when it comes to my favorite free software projects. Hey, you can hire me if you think I'm that good though.
kfort
I don't know if everyone understood the last question, but maybe I can add something.
At linuxworld in NYC last Feb, I hung out at the Helix Code booth. I was chatting with some of the dudes from there and asked him what he did. He said he works on Spidermonkey. Whats that? I asked. Well he wouldn't tell me for anything. nadda info.
So I took the rest of the conference to ask them whenever I saw someone new at their booth. They really clam up when you mention spidermonkey, start mumbling about NDA's and asking where I heard that name.
So now everyone knows the name, can anyone find out anything more about this secret project? Whatever it is they have a few developers working full time on it.
kfort
this is like the coolest thing I have ever seen. I suspected most of this anyway, but roblimo is like the masta hacker pimp.
I applaud you. I feel the same way. Maybe I'm spoiled, but dammit I LIKE it, and I think that we can DO it! I would much rather pay for programs that give me freedom such as AbiWord than yet another proprietary crappy program.
I didn't HEAR anything, I read in the article that this story is about that DeRadt was critical of the development of Linux. I'll quote the original article so as not to inconvieniance you to actually read what you are talking about.
De Raadt has earned a reputation for not mincing words. He's openly critical of the process by which Linux has been developed.
In my original posting, I asked,
I was curious about the comment that Theo has been openly critical of the development of Linux. Does anyone have any information about this?
Its very clear from the article and my posting that I was refering to the development of the OS, not the actual technical merits. Both you and the Coward seem to have not seen this.
What I was looking for was a quote or further information on how DeRaadt has been critical of the development model of the os's, and how openbsd is differently and supposedly better developed than Linux.
I wasn't putting out a call for DeRaadt to defend himself. I never accused him of anything. I want to hear what he has to say instead of third person rumors.
Seems to me like you anti-linux people are a little defensive and quick to take everything as a personal attack.
FreeBSD lost the PR battle. Thats what Jordan said. FreeBSD isn't going anywhere, it will always have a nitch in the foreseeable future, but its clear that the momentum is with Linux. Don't kid yourself.
I can't believe I'm even replying to an anonymous coward who flamed Linux.
I was curious about the comment that Theo has been openly critical of the development of Linux. Does anyone have any information about this? I think Theo reads slashdot, so whats you beef with linux theo?
One of the reasons I like Linux more than BSD (other than the GPL), is that in the past the development of Linux has been more open and distributed than that of the various BSDs. I know that Jordan Hubbard has said that this was a mistake of the BSDs and a big reason why Linux beat freebsd.
kfort
I think Raphael was the only 'ninja turtle' who wasn't at least very likely to be homosexual.
kfort
it took them a long time to get mine shipped too. They need to speed up
I use paul's rsync and the snooze util from ftp://devel.linuxppc.org/pub/users/paulus/
are these 3d cards? will it be possible to play quake 3 on a powerbook?
and I must say that its very nice. I was in the market to get a laptop to run linux, and after I did some research on linux ppc I decided to get a 99 powerbook g3. I have *not* been disapointed :-). It has snooze (sleep), hot swapable media bays, usb, all kinds of great stuff supported by linux. I highly recommend it. The linux ppc guys have done a great job. The era of intel is coming to an end :-)
Kirk
a clue. Flexibility is one of the best things about linux. I can make my computer look and run the way I want it to look and run, and you can do the same to yours. Its all about choice (FREEDOM). Thats why I use Linux, for the freedom. Most of that freedom comes from the GPL. Sure MS works, but it doesn't give you freedom. I don't understand your comment about Linux being chaotic to code for. I don't understand your comment about KDE and Gnome not designing for Linux. Theres a reason we have portable languages like C. Do you want them to code GNOME in x86 asm? No thanks, I would like to run Gnome on my apple powerbook. Smoke better crack,
whats a better license than the GPL that *ensures* that the code will always remain free? If you let people start changing the license, there is the possibility that the code will eventually end up legally in a proprietary program.
Code licensed under BSD style licenses make up an important part of every GNU/Linux distribution. However, only the GPL was designed to guarantee freedom for the users. The BSD license allows companies to horde the source code and release proprietary software using that code.
I do not think that the BSD license can compete when the big companies start getting involved in free software. The GPL makes sure everyone stays on an even playing field. Look, Solaris has been based upon BSD, as had BSDi. To my knowledge these companies have not made significant contributions to the BSD community. They have based their operating systems around proprietary improvments to the BSD codebase. Is that what you want to happen to Linux?
FreeBSD, OpenBSD, and NetBSD aren't growing as quickly as Linux, at least to my knowledge. I think a very large part of the reason Linux is popular today is because developers *like* the GPL, and users *like* the GPL.
Kirk
ESR's attitude worries me somewhat. He seems to say that stability is the only thing linux has going for it. What happens if Windows starts to become more stable? Then there is no reason to use Linux.
The real reason to use Linux is the GPL. It gives users freedoms that just aren't obtainable in the Windows world. I really wish that ESR would talk about these important freedoms and get people excited instead of just saying "it doesn't crash".
I suppose this attitude is one of the differences between Open Source and Free software.
Kirk
use slackware. Try out debian, its nice
ack, that almost sounds like the windows registry. Whats wrong with splitting stuff up? Also SuSE does not release all their code under the GPL (YAST).