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Jesux is a Bad Pun
Lots and lots of Slashdot readers have either sent in this ZDNet article or a direct link to the Jesux homepage." It's a hoax, folks. Think: if you were a Christian believer, would you name your Linux distribution something so close to "Jesus Sucks?" The concept isn't even original; variations on this theme have been floating around the Net for years because of Unix and its "kills" and "aborts" and "daemons."
> variations on this theme have been floating around the Net since Unix started getting popular two or three decades ago.
i hate to nit pick, but has the net really been around for 2 or 3 decades??? or am i just that ignorant?
Just a name.
a great base for a beowulf cluster.
I vote that the distributor be forced to listen to a 3rd grader read out of a joke book for 1 hour for every copy made. -JBS
...that the Eunux system for harem and whorehouse management is a hoax, too.
Sheesh, evil *and* a jerk. -- Jade
There is a reference on the Jesux homepage to emails received from slashdotters, claiming definitively in response that it is NOT a hoax.
I think their intent to change the names of system calls such as 'abort' pretty much singles this out as a hoax.
-josh
Designed for penetration! Lightning fast mounts! Cracking supporting with the hhway module! Uses finger as an antering wedge -- you think it's finger, but it's not!
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I have been at work too long
to provide accurate information, unlike ZDNN. Besides isn't Windows in more need of divine intervention than Linux?
Windows is the devil's work.
Did this originate from the joke about linux users being fundamentalists to their OSS religion? A lot of people have drawn a line between both on many sites including this one.
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What can I say? You can't spell "Jesux" without "Hook, Line, and Sinker". ZDNet staff must be a bit red in the face...
Seriously, though, this looks like some schmuck with a bad sense of humor put up a web page and waited for it to catch fire. Looks like his wish was met.
Congrats, whoever you are. I had a few good chuckles. (but I wouldn't want to be your ISP's complaint department right now)
God has spoken.
Among other things, the GPL specificially prohibits placing additional limitations via sublicenses, so requiring, say, quotes from Scripture is all out. At least that's from a quickie reading (IANAL...).
If anything, it might be a parody put forth -- a crude dual joke on both those who actually care about or respect religion, and reporters who don't check out the facts.
Only the dead have seen the end of war.
Kill referenced in every man page.
Killall referenced in every man page.
Random thread kills. Threads scream in pain when killed.
Suicide replaces old shutdown command.
Anal probe replaces ping.
All threads given daemon privaleges.
Sporadically downloads and plays Marilyn Manson mp3's.
CD-ROM drive spins backwards.
Pornographic links hardcoded into Lynx, the only true fundamentalist browser.
Software written by heterosexuals or women will only be permitted if they are sent email informing them of their transgressions against pleasure. Mastrubration is a form of pennance.
Ok, we're all satisfied. I'm going to hell. No doubt about it. But I bed a DAMNED someone out there got a chuckle out of this parody! Extremism with extremism never works, the exception being when one extreme is humour.
The good thing about Linux is that there is interest in the Christian community in using and evangelizing it to their followers. Here's an article in Christian Computing magazine. I suppose they may even discuss this Jesux issue at some future time. And, may be we'll get their take on this matter--is it hoax or is it fact?
I personally don't see the need for a Christian Linux distribution. I have always felt uneasy about that daemon looking BSD mascot. So, the sooner that's replaced with something else, the better!
I think the biggest laugh I got came when I learned that ZDNet was treating it as a serious news story.
1) The obligatory licencing quip:
Isn't in violation of the GPL to release Red Hat's distro, with changes, under this new license?
2) The obligatory cluster comment:
Man, those would make a fine Beowolf cluster
Amen
I plucked out some of the juicy bits:
Login screen has full text to Lord's Prayer and Pledge of Allegiance, with Christian and American symbols
Squid proxy server (plus squidGuard) bundled and configured for blocking illicit web sites (including a regularly updated list of illicit sites and URL patterns to install on your own; we will be looking for mature and diligent volunteers to help maintain it)
Optionally disable logins on Sunday, the day of rest
chmod(1) accepts hexadecimal modes, such as 0x01B6
qmail replaces sendmail as the standard MTA (sendmail was written by a prominent homosexual
Hierarchical user structure, so parents and teachers can easily access children's files without needing to become root
No encryption provided; Christians have nothing to hide
End jusux quote
I hope it's not serious. Hard to tell if he's joking or not. Be scary if people would actually use something like this. Ack.
Here's a better name.."Psychonux"
Linux | Posted by Roblimo on 08:40 PM September 27th, 1999 CST
from the another-reason-to-dump-Linux-for-freeBSD dept.
A friend of a friend saw that Jesux page and created the Lucix distro. Same stupid puns, just from the complete other side of the religious viewpoint :)
-mike kania
Hmmm. Sistine Chapel was painted by prominent
homosexual.
Last Supper was painted by another prominent homosexual.
I guess we'll have to chuck them, too.
Oh, well, any sacrifice for superstition.
-Mush-head
Hoax? As I wrote in the article, I wasn't sure. I'm still not. I've been given 'proofs' that it's a hoax, but none of them stand up.
This guy lists his occupation as "Cyber Cynic".
I feel really stupid for this, but... can someone please explain the humor in chmod accepting hex modes? I just don't get it, and that's frustrating me. Maybe I'll find some caffeine and think about it again.
Gates' Law: Every 18 months, the speed of software halves.
I think I'll recommend that as a cost-cutting measure at the next company meeting. ``Say boss, I think that outsourcing our company's web page is not cost-effective. Look at all those places where you can get a web page for free!''
Here comes that promotion!
My Freakin Blog
But a hoax nonetheless. C'mon, didn't you figure that out right away? First (and most superficial) they didn't have www.jesux.org/com/net. And then.. a hierarchical file system? It's an interesting idea, may be easy to set up (I could set up premissions like that in NT) but still, it makes one wonder. Speaking of wondering, though, what if it isn't a hoax? Most of the changes wouldn't be too hard (other than changing kill &c) but again, the prominent lack of existing holy E themes should be a clue. Hard to say.
But a hoax nonetheless. C'mon, didn't you figure that out right away? First (and most superficial) they didn't have www.jesux.org/com/net. And then.. a hierarchical file system? It's an interesting idea, may be easy to set up (I could set up premissions like that in NT) but still, it makes one wonder.
Speaking of wondering, though, what if it isn't a hoax? Most of the changes wouldn't be too hard (other than changing kill &c) but again, the prominent lack of existing holy E themes should be a clue.
Hard to say.
So don't go joking around at what everybody at slash-dot is using.
If any of them knew there were using somebody else's Penix, then would immediately throw it out a man would only use his own.
Don't forget to set up automount when you give your penix to a girl so that it will happen on demand w/o needing to go through the procedure.
Maybe we should have a contest to see just how clueless zdnet really is. Too bad I've got the whole domain in my junkbuster killfile.
And is it sin to view porn on the internet? Is that akin to adultery for those who are married? And is saying His name in vain into xterm wrong? what if you said it in a shell script with an infinite loop?
Is worshipping RMS^H^H^HUnix against the First Commandment?
I am mostly serious about this. I have never thought that religion and computers have anything to do with each other. But you never know. Anyone know of a way to sin using a computer?
Whatever the answer, the Ten Commandments are long overdue for a revision.
Note: I am not trying to be sacro-religious either. I don't mean to offend anyone, it is just my curiousity gets the best of me.
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So you think you can handle Penix? Ok, big guy - I will call your bluff. I will give you control :-)
of penix.com, and you create the web site and distribution. It's up to you, but I suggest:
"Loosely based on the BFD distribution",
"Comes with the book 'Penix Unzipped'",
"Available as an embedded system",
Including utilities like: finger, head, man,
mount, tail, touch, and uptime.
Supports frontpage, hard links, ports, and sockets, of course.
Well you asked for it - get to work
A dingo ate my sig...
They missed the obvious host puns.
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Marc A. Lepage
Software Developer
chmod(1) accepts hexadecimal modes, such as 0x01B6
..that one was kind of cute. At least it made me stop and think. The rest of the joke blew, mind you, but that was cute.
Note that the WHOIS report for 'jesux.com' shows it's registered to "Satan's Minions." And it was just registered a few days ago...
Found that quite amusing... ya' think someone did that just in CASE Jesux is real?
Hehe....
then why don't I see any names etc of the (dist) creators on the jesux page?
Due out any minute now. Be ready!
:)
putting the 'B' in LGBTQ+
I think Raphael was the only 'ninja turtle' who wasn't at least very likely to be homosexual.
kfort
Looks like it didn't take long for somebody to claim the domain name. The homepage is last updated on the 24th September 1999. This domain was registered on 24th September 1999 by, believe or not:
:-)
Satan's Minions (JESUX2-DOM)
330 Washington Blvd Suite 602
Marina Del Rey, CA 90292
US
I am gonna lookup for lucifux and penix next. If you guys have nothing better to do, I suggest you sign up these domain names fast!
Hasdi
But I don't think this goes far enough to describe how many alternatives would have to be found to classic RedHat (or SuSE or Debian or FreeBSD or DR-DOS or Novell or NT or etc) for the strictly homophobic Christian Coalition supporter to ensure that they aren't using homo-authored/contributed material. I would also like to encourage the Jesux maintainers to pre-configure squidGaurd to ensure that the homo-contributed sections of Apache are never indirectly used by locking out any site which claims to be using Apache in the HTTP header. I have the nessary modifications available but I have questioned my own sexuality a couple times so to ensure the purity of Jesux squidGaurd configuration someone more blessed should make the offical modification. It also states on the list of feature that the Emacs "doctor" has been modified to do "pastor" which is a great feature. But since Emacs is distributed from the FSF with such material as "sex.6" and "condem.6", I would request that the Jesux distribution find an altertive to Emacs/Elisp to run "pastor." I belive the authors of Common Lisp walk the straight and narrow, possibly pastor can be executed by their hevenily enviroment.
Waittaminnit...
If I remember correctly, Linux has a fat, happy penguin as a mascot. FreeBSD has a fat, happy, "daemon" as a mascot.
Now, I know, when I'm wearing my black cape and black make-up, whilst walking around with a severed goat-head on my back is when God-Groupies come up to me and ask "Are you saved?" (and every time, I hold up my horned hand and yell "Yes!")
And this is what strikes me as odd...
Wouldn't the Christians want to assimilate the BSD-ers into the "flock" because of the "demonic" logo? I mean Chu.., er, Beastie seems happy enough. Maybe that's just because he's happy about the amount of souls he's just harvested.
Damn, me and my big mouth. Now, in a week, we'll see pointers to the new FreeG.O.D. O/S. What have I done?
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kernel periodically sends GOSPEL messages, which appear on all ttys by default
alias burn-at-stake='rpm -e --force --nodeps'
functions of root now split into 3 accounts
Biblical quotes in /etc/issue, /etc/issue.net, /etc/motd, and similar places
xearth replaced by xheaven and xhell
random numbers a a form of gambling, so /dev/random and /dev/urandom are symlinked to /dev/zero
CGAN -- Christian Gospel Anti-heretic Network
serpents are sinful; python will not ship default with distribution, neither will anaconda be used as the installer
Gates' Law: Every 18 months, the speed of software halves.
Its a hoax for one simple reason - it has a license thats incompatible with the GPL. You can rerelease linux as a BSD style program, so they cant release it anyway. OF course you cant host 600+megs of linux on a 10 meg geocities account either.
..a bit on the Satanic side for this distro.
+&x
They can hack out a Linux distro but they put their page on Geocities? I've lost all faith in ZDNet for believing it.
For those of you who think this isn't a hoax, you should check out my new distro, "Geosux". It's basically Linux, but it wants nothing to do with obnoxious pop-up HTML frames.
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Silly rabbit. Sleep is for class!
What can one say about a Linux distribution whose home page is on Yahoo?
Does anything even need to be said?
Where'd I leave my mod points....
+&x
http://www.twistedlogic.com/sinux/
I am sure that I can get help from around the world -- a veritable army! I shall call them "The Hard Corps!" Our motto shall be "Penix: For When You Must Be Hard At Work!" No, not great, but better than "Squeal! Squeal like a pig! Weeeeeeeeeee! Weeeeeeeeeeeeeee!" Oh Ghod I need coffee. What kind of sick bastard could leave me here to do the mksysbs with no coffee ...
chmod 0x01B6 == chmod 0666
The CSPL is based on the (Daemon-mascotted) BSD license?
Please.
Three Step Plan:
1. Take over the world.
2. Get a lot of cookies.
3. Eat the cookies.
Check out Star Trek Is SATANIC. Even more funny than the page itself is the guestbook. (As a European, the US ability of taking even the most absurd religious parodies for real never ceases to amaze me.)
In literary geeky contexts, "hex" works in 2 ways: "Hex" by itself means a curse in witchcraft. However, using "hex" as a short form of "hexadecimal" (sp?) means the number system based on the number 6 (base 6 perhaps? Math fails me at the moment), just as our everyday number system is based on the number 10. In the Bible, the number 6 is representative of humans (I believe the reason is because humans are the sixth thing created), just as 7 is perfection. The last book of the Bible, the Book of Revelation (also known as the Revelation of John or the Apocalypse of John), a creature called the Beast (it's a vision, remember) who does Satan's dirty work is given the representative number 666, and anyone who wants to get in good with the Beast has to have that number on their forehead or hand in order to do business, and so on (the vision is not terribly specific further to that). It's been suggested that the triple six relates directly to humans, especially considering the notion from the book of Genesis that humans are intrinsically evil because they ate what God told them not to eat and were thrown out of the Garden of Eden. So, therefore, 666 would be the ultimate expression of evil and disobedience to God. (Actually, this is largely my way of trying to make sense of it, feel free to offer a more Orthodox interpretation.)
So, I guess this is a round about way of explaining that some Christians, attempting to read the modern world into the Bible, feel that computers are evil because they can be programmed/modified/whatever using a system based on the number six, which has evil apocalyptic connotations.
Hope this helps.......Glenn
When I refer to a micro-distribution, I mean one of the many little "distributions" floating around that are really just a set of patches to a major (macro?) distribution. These micro-distros generally serve to make an existing distro more useful to a particular group of people: for example, the blind, Russians, Christians, Windows refugees, etc. What's wrong with that? Isn't Linux all about having choices? If there's demand for a particular (serious) micro-distro, then let it be. Not every distro aims at every user.
Disclaimer for the humor-impaired: the hoax in question is not what I consider a serious micro-distro. But it's the idea that counts here.
Bah, I really need a sense of humor.
Gates' Law: Every 18 months, the speed of software halves.
I think it's interesting that the majority of comments here are anti-christian rather than anti ZDnet for printing a rediculous story. Anyone with half an ounce of common sense can tell immediately that this is a joke. But the ZDnet article reports it as fact getting all your undies in a bunch.
Speaking as a rather devout Christian, I have no problem with any of the Unix slang/terminology. You're putting too much focus on the minority of Christians.
Steve
It's funny. If you haven't seen it yet, take a look.
Gates' Law: Every 18 months, the speed of software halves.
Might as well, there's already a flavor of UNIX called SINIX (Siemen's UNIX).
This completely reminds me of the crudest first parameter that works with so many Linux commands: penis.
For example:
cat penis
finger penis
touch penis
grep penis
unzip penis
rm penis
Think of a few yourself, and you'll realise just how versatile penii are... I mean, how versatile Unix is.
It only encourages people to take shots at each other over this issue. It would be nice if everyone could be lighthearted about it, but they are not.
I wish you would have resisted.
This sig is false.
..you mean we don't get to crucify NT users..?!
I have always found them versatile. They are there when I need them and in fact any time I am the least bit interested, out they spring! Someone else takes care of them, I just get to play with them, and they are a pretty amusing toy. Sometimes it is nice to be a girl ;P
Hey check out: Buttlix
Neiner neiner neiner! Buttlix is already taken!
dammit! why are geek girls anonymous!?
Buttpirate.com is already taken!
oh, thanks.
I knew something was up when I read, among other "clauses" in the "Jesux" (pronounced as "Hay Soos" distribution, is that thou shalt not use it on Sundays.
And I immediately filed a report to Rob, and our dear Robby had to gone through several days of searching in reaching the conclusion that it's all a hoax.
Hahahahaha !! I've had some fun !
Muchas Gracias, Señor Edward Snowden !
Because if we aren't aren't, a major part of our day consists of telling geek guys nicely that we don't want to see their, er, distro right now. Day in and day out, this wears on you. I don't want to be a bitch, I have always hated women who acted that way (if men acted towards women like women acted towards men, they would frequently go to jail, and I find the double standard disgusting), and I won't become one -- so I keep a low profile. That way if I need to see a distro or two I can observe, pounce, give him the "Gomer Test" (Gomer is a cat with excellent judgement in men), and possibly get some help with, ah, hardware. I feel bad writing this, but there are just a lot more guys than girls.
...maybe because they're not really girls?
:>
Being a geek can be a lonely existance, after all.
- Darchmare
- Axis Mutatis, http://www.axismutatis.net
- Jeff
I agree. It bothers me that anyone would think that this was serious. Sure there are a few wacko Christian groups out there, but the majority of Christians would realize that this was absurd. The fact that so many people don't recognize this is what's really scary to me. I think any Christians who read that would either a) be insulted b) have a good laugh.
I am really curious about this now...bad hoaxs aside. How many Christian Hackers are really out there? The person who introduced me to Linux was a Christian and since then several of (almost half) the Linux users I've come into contact with have been Christians...as agents of Love and Truth in the world shouldn't we (Christians) be sharing with others and fostering the freedom of information anyway? I've always felt that Open Source and Christianity easily went hand in hand but many posts here are just batting around the stereotyped picture of (fake) christianity. Those who understand Christ's message should be aware of this; Christianity is about Love, truth, and freedom. (these at the very least)
hmm...I wonder if ChristianHackers.org is registered yet? (yikes! It IS registered!!!)
Of course it's a troll, man. It's called sarcasm. I have always noticed that the people who seem the most concerned about gays seem to know an awful lot about gay sex. Now, I do to, but, hey, I'm gay. And I have to confess that some of the crimes that I have been accused of I cannot even imagine anyone doing. Perhaps I have been sheltered (yeah, right). I was assuming that this was an invitation to camp. Perhaps I was wrong. Cut me some slack -- I am still at work at 11:30PM and could use a giggle!
I'm not sure of the overall notoriety of this work, but I must admit that it has thoroughly scared the dickens out of me several times - and it gives a much more ``plausible'' justification for the UN*X nomenclature than the Jesux site.
The Xenix Chainsaw Massacre
*N
I'm sure they'll get around to these, in addition to the other revisions they mentioned:
/usr/X11R6/bin/Xmas).
/etc/HEAVENLYHOSTNAME.
fsck(8) -- becomes know(8), as in the biblical sense: "And the user did know(8) his partition, and thus begat lost+found."
gcc(1) -- becomes jhc(1). "JHC, how much longer is this compile going to take?!?!" (Must be asked sincerely to avoid blasphemy.)
more(1) -- wholly (pardon the pun) replaced with less(1), the opposite of more, because it is selfish to want more.
true(1) -- can only return a value of 0.
expect -- replaced with "prophesize", a lesser known subset of tcl.
C++ programs are now said to be abject-oriented, as they will only compile and run after sufficient subjugation and hours of blood-soaked sweat inducing prayer (which is not entirely unique to this distribution).
Christmas -- is always referred to as Xmas (see
guile -- is an immoral trait, and thus is removed from the distribution.
help -- available to all unsaved souls who ask. See also: save, gideon.
nice(1) -- applied to all user functions, because Jesux brothers should all be nice to one another.
/etc/HOSTNAME -- renamed to
MySQL(1) -- is now HisSQL(1), because after all, He created it, and all of us who use it, and it is His. Sinners on the system are relegated to TransGresSQL, PostGres' replacement.
nslookup(8) -- replaced with nsbowyourheads(8).
and finally...
root -- becomes God, obviously. "God, root, what is difference?" -- Pitr 0:0
Whether these were funny or not, I blame it all on the Mountain Dew.
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..clots of floating lamness .. who have nothing better to do than go around posting crap that dialutes and FUDs linux more.. this is typical of post FUD crap.. very typical... I saw this happenign with OS/2.. these guys are doing this for a reason, to create fractions.. yes there is no jesuix.. but soon there would be.. and guess what.. they would start discriminations within the geek movements.. how? "no homo written code" .. what kind of sillyness is that? I was getting very pissed by the fact that ZDnet has let this kind of lowness be published on their site.
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I mean, after all, why not bundle these things together? Is there any such service already existing for Linux? I'm sure there is for WinX if not for the Mac. While I personally wouldn't be using it, I'd be thrilled if something vaguely along these lines marketed itself as a service to the more (small o) orthodox Christians who might be considering Linux. I mean, like it or not, Christians of strong faith make up a huge percentage of the US population; we have the largest number of Sunday-church-attenders per capita in the world.
So basically, I guess I'm just saying, don't automatically assume it's a hoax. Is it so stunning that a geek could be Christian? I mean, really. And the same people who would find the above services useful are perfectly capable of being amused by chmod's extra functionality, or the occasional amusing extra link to kill---I remember in my early UNIX-using days getting the biggest kick out of setting up funny symlinks. Christians can have a sense of humour, too. :)
Oh, and as for the CSPL: why not? They won't be relicensing old code, just new code; and they would just be taking advantage of the same viral properties as the GPL folks are (though to different ends).
Final note: nothing in the entire feature list indicated that there would be any features disabled. The extra features of the distribution could be used or not used according to the wishes of the owner. They wouldn't even remove hardly anything---just a couple games, which of course could be re-downloaded if desired. A hoax this may well be, but it is neither obvious nor provable from the information they've given on the website.
``This, too, shall pass.'' ---Eastern proverb
This could be a new section (with dunce cap icon) of links to media articles whose authors show a severe lack of clue. (The purpose of making it a section would be so that people could cross it out of their preferences. Not everyone wants to read all about how Jesse Berst needs another harshing.)
/. Karma, maybe).
What this would accomplish would be to institutionalize the capacity of Slashdot to review and respond to mainstream media articles, in a way that does not involve floods of email flames toward the Dunce Cap candidate.
The reason I am advocating this is shown well by
this Forbes story. This can harness Slashdot's vitriol to good use: whipping the media into shape. There could be a poll with every story (weighted by
Allright, enough punting. Back to work.
Ah, beat me to the punch, there. Or perhaps you're just grumpy ;)
Oh... like the Hotel in Space thread a few days back? ;p
Open Source. Closed Minds. We are Slashdot.
Theres alot more guys than girls? Last time i checked, and i'm no biologist, p(male)=p(female) at the reproductive stage, oh and latest stats on human population studies show that there are marginally MORE women than men... I find your last statement to be somewhat inaccurate.
M/24/single (laff)
http://www.very.net/nikolai/penix/index.htm
Two points:
1) If it's a hoax, then laugh, it's funny. If you have to take your religion or philosophy so seriously that you can't take a joke in the form of a parody webpage, you will have some serious problems when people *really* criticize your worldview. Lighthen up.
2) If it is real, then Slashdot is doing a serious disservice and actually undermining these peoples' belief system. Have some respect.
Aaron J. Shaver > adrec@internetcds.com
Is this illegal?
Are there any positive role models left -- sheesh...
now that's an idea...
Surely it's been done? URL's anyone?
No encryption provided; Christians have nothing to hide.
I don't know, personally most Christians in the know I've meet supported encryption. Though mainly because they get a kick out of overthrowing governments (can't blame them) and encyption is a powerful tool in this effort.
While that may be true in the 'real world' in geek world there's not many woman around to uh, mount my floppy.
"Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
ReadThe ReflectionEngine, a cyberpunk style n
For a while after I saw this on Saturday, I thought it well might be true. I mean, think about it - everything they're suggesting is fairly easily doable, and some of it actually makes sense.
:-)
Basically, I thought they were well intentioned folks who drank a little too much Mt. Dew.
And I agree - I'm also a devout Christian and UNIX terminology doesn't bother me (although saying "daemon" *did* take a little getting used to, and I try to avoid the word when around family and friends).
Check it out. Their are lots of us Christian geeks out there.
Don't be alarmed - Jesus warned that the world would hate us and Paul told us to consider it pure joy when we are persecuted for our faith. Satan has a lot of people here by the you-know-what...
A better name would be JesusX-- after all, X is the first greek letter in the greek word for Christ. X has been a shortened form for Christ for quite a long time (ie. X-mas). Rumor has it that all of the current X themes are based on Christ. X Windows is actually "Christ Windows" which can be argued is an answer to Microsoft Windows-- being in direct opposition to Bill Gates who is the anti-Christ and all... or haven't you seen that e-mail yet?
My $.02
"Perhaps most amazingly, votaries of 'diversity' insist on absolute conformity." -- Tony Snow
in Informix, the command to stop the database
daemon and shutdown all oninit processes is:
onmode -ky
I never thought I'd be ky'ing anything, thankyouverymuch.
David
Are you telling me that people in Texas have never heard of the Arizona State University Sun Devils?
"Perhaps most amazingly, votaries of 'diversity' insist on absolute conformity." -- Tony Snow
I don't mean to offend anyone by this, but is that the case or not?
"Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
ReadThe ReflectionEngine, a cyberpunk style n
I don't think the orgional poster was refering to all chistians, only those who fit his defintion. of witch, there are very many :(
"Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
ReadThe ReflectionEngine, a cyberpunk style n
Actualy, all that was was a standard distro that took took windows config info out of the registry (and used the a fat filesystem). its not like linux running under windows, or anything
"Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
ReadThe ReflectionEngine, a cyberpunk style n
Of course to imply there was a distro separate from yourself would mean you were not following the TAO (The Absolute Os). Just meditate on regular expressions and soon you and the machine will become one, you are the distro, the distro is you.
(I'm a evangelical Christian and a hardcore computer user/operator, and I'm convinced that Christians have nothing to gain by fear.)
You can't be that 'hard core' if you don't even know what hex means
"Subtle mind control? Why do all these HTML buttons say 'Submit' ?"
ReadThe ReflectionEngine, a cyberpunk style n
Once again I'm happy we don't have less that kind of crap in Finland.
(Just a CS major who has Faith in God and the Holy Bible)
# amo, ergo sum
burn the churches and you will be set free.
Demon and probably daemon comes from the greek word daimon. Which was something good in the beginning but later on became some kind of devil... Since we spell it daemon i guess it means the good thing.
It's penises not penii. Of course, now someone must handle "penii" by dissecting its roots before this improper plural is disseminated. The last thing we need is "penii" in the mouths of the public. We should nip this in the bud right now. Remember what happened with "virii" infecting the general public?
I would chalk it all up to a communist conspiracy to contaminate our precious bodily fluids, but that's exactly what the über-capitalists at Slashdot want me to think.
-davek
6th Street Radio @ddombrowsky
No, thank you, I'll take the sheep.
Hey guys, don't nail him to the cross, okay?
don't forget bash & root.
:)
:P.
can anyone think of anymore?
lucky for microsoft they didn't write unix or they'd be smacked out of existance
Debian is already the Universal OS. Whatever that means, I'm sure it would please Taoists (get your Zen and Tao straight, BTW).
Gates' Law: Every 18 months, the speed of software halves.
I can't see why most christians would want this distro over any other distro. Personally I can't see this being a major distro ever because if they are going to keep things like sendmail out then they will probably find problems with other servers like apache. Who knows they may not even package the code if they can get away with it cuz Linux's kernel code has profanity in it.
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religion is a bunch of bullshit anyway, so who really cares?
Religion is the way you live and understand the world around you anyway it suits you.
MarNuke
I wish I could be sure this is a hoax. Sadly, it looks to me like just the kind of silliness that many Christians waste their time on. I'm not going to get into the (really divisive) issues behind this. I feel an incredible sadness for this topic having come up in this forum in this way.
Instead, I would like to talk about what Christianity really is. Maybe its off-topic, maybe not. In any case, I will post it and the moderators can do their thing. I will not come back to reply to this thread to comment further -- I have no interest in doing so. If you have questions, email me. Flames will go silently to
At its most basic level, Christianity is the outgrowth of Judaism. Judaism, based in the Old Testament, has a very clear and radically monotheistic understanding of God. The God of the Old Testament has rigourous moral standards: the Ten Commandments are chief of these. However, all these moral standards can be summed up in his demand that we "Love God with all our hearts" (Deuteronomy something). Throughout the Old Testament, God continues to reveal himself to the Israelites, and we learn a few things about him:
As the Old Testament progresses, a tradition develops that a Messiah will come, who will take the form of a "suffering servant". See Isaiah 53.
I, and all other Christians, believe that this suffering servant was Jesus Christ. In a way that is clearly mysterious, Jesus was God taken human form (John 1). He lived a very distinctive life -- throughout his life, he upheld very high moral standards. And hung around with Drunks, Prostitutes, Tax Collectors and anyone else who loved him. These people loved him because, although he was a righteous Jew, he loved them. He refused the social standards of his time that called for him to separate himself from those who were not Righteous jews as he was. See the woman at the well in John 4 for a good picture of this.
Jesus was killed for challenging the religious authorities of his day. If you will, he was executed for telling Jim Baker how wrong "prosperity theology" really was. On the third day, Jesus rose from the grave and appeared to hundreds of witnesses on many occasions. Despite substantial opposition to the Christian movement from the earliest days (Read Acts sometime) no one seriously questioned the Resurrection until the third century AD -- and then, as now, they criticized on the shaky assumption that such a thing
The Bible teaches that Jesus' execution and resurrection bought us a unique privilege: that of being forgiven all our sins, past, present, and future and having our sinful natures (that thing which leads us to Sin) replaced with the power of Jesus. This incarnation of Jesus in us gives us the ability not to Sin. Before Jesus, we did not have even the ability not to Sin. Now, we can avoid sin although it is still hard. How this works is a mystery. When I die and meet Jesus, I plan to ask for an explanation in simple pictures and diagrams.
Why do I believe this? Because just over 4 years ago, before accepting Christ. I was a broken man. I had explored every world religious system, and had discovered that I (like all of you: don't get self-righteous on me) could not be truly "enlightened" of my own accord. I was extremely active in Eastern religions for years -- I did all the meditation, all the reading, all the study. And yet I was empty and failed being suicidal only by shear stubborness.
And then, through a series of encounters with some wonderful Christians, I accepted that I could not do it myself and asked Jesus Christ to come into my life. Immediately after this, I went home, shook my head, and muttered something to the effect of "Pat, this had to take the cake. You have now become a Bible thumper. Maybe if you don't do anything about it you'll get out of it". That's right: I didn't start going to church. I didn't even buy a Bible. I started trying to spend more time in my then current philosophy du jour (Taoism) because obviously I had flipped my lid. Incidentally, I started the definitive Taoism page on the net in like 1994. It's still out there somewhere under different management. I'm not making this up and you can verify it if you so choose.
But God had me and wasn't letting me go. First, he started straightening out my life. Then, slowly, over a period of months, he overcame my intellectual resistance to Christianity -- largely through the works of C.S. Lewis. Finally, about 4 or 5 months after accepting Christ, I reached a turning point and went to the local Christian Book Store and bought a Bible. Walking into that store was the hardest thing I ever did -- I was afraid that someone would see me and KNOW that I was a bible-thumper.
Once I got a Bible, I started reading the New Testament and have never looked back. As hokey as this sounds, I LOVE JESUS! And I know that he loves me. How? Because He, when I was still a sinner and hated him, died on a cross to save me from my sin. You don't have to believe this, but that doesn't keep it from being true.
Since that time, my life has been nothing but uphill. I enjoyed blessings in every area of my life. I have gone from being almost literally impoverished (making $4.35/hr) to a six figure income. I have gone from being lonely and horny, trying to find love wherever I could (as a classic nerd), to a beautiful wife and a wonderful 2 year old son who is smart as hell and meaner than a rattlesnake. I have gone from a fear of society -- a certainty that I was entirely alone born in my stereo-typical geek childhood including physical and sexual abuse -- to enjoying the wonderful blessings of a church family that loves me no matter how often I screw up. I have even watched God extend salvation into my family, slowly overcoming their intellectualism and unfaith and rebuilding my family to something it never could be before.
In short, I have see how just allowing Jesus into my life has totally changed it, and I would not change back for anything. Many of you are fond of Galileo as an example to frame your anti-Christian sentiments. At the end of his trial, there is a legend that he said, under his breath, "It still moves!". Well, despite your derision, despite your pseudo-intellectual bullschnit, despite all your arguments, I say that Jesus
-- Slashdot sucks.
You mean Jesux 2000 right?
It's 10 PM. Do you know if you're un-American?
I have to admit this whole Jesux/Lucix religious distro thing has made me laugh like crazy. Not using kill, abort and daemon? Come on, people! I have been ROFL, just reading all the different posts. It certainly made my day! =)
On the other hand, there *is* a strong undercurrent of "give'n'share" christian beliefs to the whole Open Source. RMS has said many times he was inspired in his decision to create the FSF by Jesus "Golden Rule" ("Do unto others as you'd like them to do unto you" or some such). And Larry Wall, creator of Perl, is a Christian, after all, he trained to be a missionary and ended up in IT instead.
The entire "let's-give-it-away-for-free" ethos of Open Source, even though it's probably more a child of the 1960s hippie anti-capitalist/establisment movement than of the Sermon on the Mount (think: Berkeley), has a lot of "points of intersection" with the Christian ethics.
Like many other movements, Christianity is not a huge monolith: it is splintered into many currents and churches -- some may even be "tempted" to put together some sort of "Jesux" distribution. But, verily, verily, I say unto thee that those who want their own distro need to code. And good little fundamentalist Xtians are not supposed to code -- they are supposed to pray and convert heathens in the name of our Lord! =)
Which is another reason why FreeBSD is superior to Linux: the logo prevents Xtian fundamentalists from hijacking the OS for their own purposes... =) Flame all you want: the Lord of Darness loves a good barbecue!
The right to offend is far more important than the right not to be offended. (Rowan Atkinson)
what about them Duke Blue Devils in North Carolina? The Research Triagle must be a bad place.
even a stopped clock is right twice a day (unless it's a 24 hour clock)
First off, I want to state that I am a rather unconventional Christian. I listen to punk rock (and look like a punk rocker, mohawk and all). I am also a geek. I have been a geek almost as long as I have been a Christian (about the age of 11). Being a Christian is a way of life, and a way of seeing things more than anything else. You see through different eyes. This does not however mean that you cannot enjoy the same things non-Christians enjoy. I have a good friend at work who is very obvious about not being a Christian, and we talk about geek-stuff all day long... Having said this, I think the whole idea of a "Christian" distribution is wrong. Any geek can get a hold of a copy of Linux and modify the features they are talking about very easily. Makeing a separate distribution only encourages further separation from the world and more isolation. As pointed out by several others, being a geek is another way to show non-Christians how great your belief system is. I listen to both Christian and non-Christian music, but I draw the line there. I sincerely pray that this is a hoax. If it is not, I pray even more that it does not make it very far. I must say that my friend emailed the webmaster of the Jesux page, and he replied saying it was very serious and to expect the release soon. So I am not 100% convinced it is a hoax.
A humanlike creature with horns? Give me a break. Next, you are going to say you beleive there is a heaven with Gold streets. 1. Gold is impractical/dangerous for road surfaces. 2. Gold streets tell us that it's a human dream. Gold is valuble to us here ... so in a perfect world ... gold streets ... Yeah, that's it.
If it is real, then it should be taken seriously. However, if it is real, there is something seriously wrong with their Christianity.
I forget which one, but they said they were dropping a program because it was written by a homosexual. Okay, let's rephrase that: a disbelieving sinner. That doesn't stop a Christian. If you're using Linux anyhow, you're probably buying your memory from Japan--very likely built by disbelieving sinners. We use Arabic numerals, for the love of sanity!
Something I see a lot of in Christianity are people seeing who can out-Bible-thump the other. Not only is this the height of arrogance ("I am so much humbler than you!"), but it causes you to stop thinking and start reacting in a counterproductive McCarthyism mode. God gave us brains, he expects us to use them.
--The basis of all love is respect
Hex alone does not mean "base 6". Hex as an abbreviation for Hexadecimal means base 16. Otherwise, Hex takes on the more traditional meanings of "curse" or "jinx". Base 6 would be called Heximal, I'd wager. --Joe
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I think it's just a sad commentary on the fact that here in the US, often the reality isn't very far from the parodies. Just look at the whole Pro-{Choice|Life} issue. (I'm not going to say what side I'm on, because I'm liable to end up on somebody's hate list ... and at this point, it doesn't matter which side! Come on, guys, you know who you are. Grow up!)
--Joe--
Program Intellivision!
Another bit of hypocrisy is the hierarchial filesystem... Why do parents need to spy on kids (but not vice-versa) if Christians have nothing to hide? Under Jesux, the default mode settings should be given by find / -print | xargs chmod a+r and find / -type d -print | xargs chmod a+x.
*sigh*
--Joe--
Program Intellivision!
I grew up in a household built on respect. This included respect for my personal space and personal privacy. I personally find the idea of parents spying on their children to be highly objectionable. I personally prized the fact that my computer was mine, and its contents were private (much like a locked diary would be).
If parents need to know what their children are doing, they should ask. If they suspect that their child is misbehaving, they should confront their children directly. This is especially true for teenagers.
Children are people too. The worst emotional burden most people place on teenagers is that they expect them to behave as adults with most of the responsibilities of adults, but without respecting them as the adults they are becoming.
From the standpoint of "passing on the faith": "Faith by enforcement" is not faith at all. At some point your children must choose to be good people. Deleting porno files out of your child's directory for them after a random search does not make the child a good person -- even if you punish the child afterwards. (And even by the particularly shallow definition of good which would cast porno as bad.) The best you can do is to explain your expectations and reasons to your children, and listen to their thoughts and feelings. Both sides might actually learn something from the exchange.
--Joe--
Program Intellivision!
Folks, you're all saying it's a hoax, but you know what, I still don't see the proof. No one is standing up and saying "We tricked em!" Saying, "Of course, it's a hoax because of licensing, it's been talked about for years, etc." isn;t enough.
As for cluelessness and the like, hey, I said up front that it might be a hoax.
Is is a hoax? I've spent more time digging away at it and I can't prove it. Annoyingly, I'm finding more circumstanial proof that it is real. Nothing positive yet, but it's what I'm finding.
If anyone knows what's real here, I really want to know. If it does turn out to be a hoax, of course I'll report it. There's no mistake to correct, there is a story that needs a better ending. If anyone out there can help me ferret out the truth I'd welcome the help and give the credit where it's due. If you know my work at all, you know I call them like I see them.
Steven, Senior Technology Editor, Sm@rt Reseller
sjvn@zd.com
OMIGOD Hex is just a way of representing numbers...wait, does this mean NUMBERS themselves are evil! How insidious! Binary, Octal and Decimal must also be evil for hanging with Hex.
It's 10 PM. Do you know if you're un-American?
Get it?
ObNerdJoke: Why do engineers get Halloween confused with Christmas? Because OCT(31) == DEC(25).
--Joe--
Program Intellivision!
"So, how was your date last night, Earl?"
"Not baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad!"
;)
"Microsoft is the epitome of innovation and product quality."
Sanity.html - Error 404 not found
I think what might be best is to lobby some of our good hardcore right-wing lawmakers such as Bob Barr or Tom DeLay to pass legislation that would require the public registration of pieces of software authored by homosexuals. That way, when people are going to download and build a piece of software, they can check the list first and make sure that they're not downloading any poofter-written code. That would be best for America. It is a well-known fact that homosexuals code "homo vibes" into software and distribute it as a method to increase their yearly recruitment. Lobby Congress for a pure, heterosexual Linux now!
this is scary: www.tencommandments.org
LINUX stands for: Linux Inux Nux Ux X
FRA: STFU GTFO
Pudge....it's not funny... =)
(IANAP(I Am Not A Pastor), so whoever has a bible handy may want to help me out.)
You see, I was raised Lutheran. From the time I was very young, I was exposed to the Scriptures. My grandmother was a staunch Christian, and I attribute the fact that I came out allright to her. After she passed on, my father started taking me to church. My pastor was a really great guy; the type to take even the most complex of passages and make them crystal clear. I always did enjoy going to church for that very reason.
But I stopped. I turned to other beliefs, other sects. Why?
Guilt. Uncertainty. A big hole.
Like most church-goers, I was taught that there is no way to get into heaven on your own. God and sin can not co-habitate, and since we are all sinners, we cannot be with Him. That's where Jesus came in. He is the intermediary. Accept Him into your heart and you will be accepted into the Kingdom of Heaven.
I was never too sure about that one.
There were other questions as well. I never could get straight answers to any of the above. The answers I received ranged from "If you have to ask, you don't really believe" to "There must be something wrong with you" to "Where is your faith?" to "I don't know".
Not to be disrespectful, but how am I supposed to love God "...with all my heart, and all my soul, and all my being" when I cannot be sure that He even notices?
One day, I just decided that I had had enough guilt and fear and uncertainty to last a lifetime. This isn't the way it was supposed to be. I walked away and have never looked back.
Can anyone here answer any of my questions with a straight reply?
censorship is a form of noise, which actively seeks to drown out content with silence - Crash Culligan
I read the homepage, and I was LMAO. It's too damn funny to be real. Although, truth is stranger than fiction, right?
Oh well, i only hope userfriendly is as funny or else I'll have Jesux on my mind all day and will probably be LMAO in class at inappropriate times.
ALL HAIL BRAK!!!
All of you who are firmly convinced that this is a hoax fail to realize that this is VERY doable, from a systems point of view. The only two modifications that would take less than 30 minutes are the heirarchical filesytem and eliminating abort. Give any half-decent systems programmer a weekend, and he could do the same. I think the evangelical christian community beat y'all to a good idea, and you're just jealous:)
www.perl.org was down most of the day, and so was my office, so i worked on Jesux yesterday.8 1/ /. and see what happens. :) :) :) :) :) :) ... remove all "haX0r" utilities. :D :D :D
:)
purl, Jesux?
it has been said that Jesux is http://www.geocities.com/ResearchTriangle/Node/40
Very cool.
i am going to finish it up sunday or monday.
then announce it to
I don't get the `bash' thing, though?
what does bash stand for?
Nice.
do you get the hex chmod thing?
Bourne Again Shell
Yes.
That's nice and subtle.
i had discussed with Murr the idea of just not allowing file modes of -rw-rw-rw-
but that isn't too realistic.
Pudge, you shouldn't be able to put the ethernet interface into promiscuous mode.
Very true.
promiscuous mode?
Yeah.
Lets it listen to all the packets on the net, not just the ones destined for it.
i'm gonna memepool jesux
part of the idea is that i don't want to actually remove functionality; focus instead on changing the evil names by which we call things.
finger
unless the functionality itself is evil, such as allowing users to download pr0n
that's naughty.
fmh, wait until Monday or so
it is not yet done
Ah, well, you'll need to call promiscuous mode 'evangelical mode', or somesuch.
i want first scoop
Fmh, OK.
remove "finger"
that works well, since i don't want to announce it myself anyway (don't want to give it away)
nod
that is a good point, though
^Pudge: You don't want to remove the *ability* to sin.
cracking is a sin.
Hmmmm.
i'm assuming this is a retort to the "women need their own dist of linux"
Theology discussion, 10 yards.
Fmh, kinda. i got the idea after talking to Skud.
i love the name. Hay-sooks.
You could add kernel-mode checking of child processes to ensure that they were spawned 'in wedlock', but you'd have to define that first.
you're not really gonna make a dist, right?
FUCK YOU Fmh
heh
I AM DR REMULAK
i don't know what you are talking about.
<^Pudge> www.perl.org was down most of the day, and so was my office, so i worked on Jesux yesterday.8 1/ /. and see what happens. :) :) :) :) :) :) ... remove all "haX0r" utilities. :D :D :D :)
<^Pudge> purl, Jesux?
<purl> it has been said that Jesux is http://www.geocities.com/ResearchTriangle/Node/40
<Simon> Very cool.
<^Pudge> i am going to finish it up sunday or monday.
<^Pudge> then announce it to
<Simon> I don't get the `bash' thing, though?
<^Pudge> what does bash stand for?
<Simon> Nice.
<^Pudge> do you get the hex chmod thing?
<TonyC> Bourne Again Shell
<Simon> Yes.
<Simon> That's nice and subtle.
<^Pudge> i had discussed with Murr the idea of just not allowing file modes of -rw-rw-rw-
<^Pudge> but that isn't too realistic.
<beeer> Pudge, you shouldn't be able to put the ethernet interface into promiscuous mode.
<Simon> Very true.
<^Pudge> promiscuous mode?
<beeer> Yeah.
<Simon> Lets it listen to all the packets on the net, not just the ones destined for it.
<Fmh> i'm gonna memepool jesux
<^Pudge> part of the idea is that i don't want to actually remove functionality; focus instead on changing the evil names by which we call things.
<Fmh> finger
<^Pudge> unless the functionality itself is evil, such as allowing users to download pr0n
<Fmh> that's naughty.
<^Pudge> fmh, wait until Monday or so
<^Pudge> it is not yet done
<beeer> Ah, well, you'll need to call promiscuous mode 'evangelical mode', or somesuch.
<Fmh> i want first scoop
<^Pudge> Fmh, OK.
<Fmh> remove "finger"
<^Pudge> that works well, since i don't want to announce it myself anyway (don't want to give it away)
<Fmh> nod
<^Pudge> that is a good point, though
<Simon> ^Pudge: You don't want to remove the *ability* to sin.
<^Pudge> cracking is a sin.
<beeer> Hmmmm.
<Fmh> i'm assuming this is a retort to the "women need their own dist of linux"
<Simon> Theology discussion, 10 yards.
<^Pudge> Fmh, kinda. i got the idea after talking to Skud.
<^Pudge> i love the name. Hay-sooks.
<beeer> You could add kernel-mode checking of child processes to ensure that they were spawned 'in wedlock', but you'd have to define that first.
<Fmh> you're not really gonna make a dist, right?
<^Pudge> FUCK YOU Fmh
<Fmh> heh
<Fmh> I AM DR REMULAK
<^Pudge> i don't know what you are talking about.
<Fmh>
From the bio of the article's author on the Sm@rt Reseller masthead: "He currently is chairman of the Internet Press Guild, a group devoted to promoting accurate Internet reporting."
"Apologies: We rightfully criticized slashdot.org previously, but we did not do so with a loving spirit. For that, we apologize. We still will not bow to the media, we do not need the media, and we will succeed in providing a distribution for you. If God is for us, who can be against us?"
I must admit that reading this thread was rather amusing. I've always felt that there were an underestimated amount of literary types in the geekdom.
It Looks like a hoax...
It Smells like a hoax...
Hell, it even TASTES like a hoax!
Just don't step in it, okay?
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If this was really the work of those crazy fundamentalists, they would've left daemon alone. Daemon is old testament for angel (anti-demon, because of the ae). The Unixen daemons are go betweens between "god" (kernel/System resources) and the user (the greater unwashed ;-). I'm aethiest, and I picked this out (hehe).
How can those ZDNet people print such crap? Do they have no one that knows anything?
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The punk rock hackers over at www.unixpunx.org are working on their OWN satanic version of your favorite operating system, check it out here. http://www.unixpunx.org/lucix
I recently ordered a copy, seeing that my little son wants to learn that crazy thing called Unix. I never taught what the words kill or abort means so why now? Well my question is do you think that I will get my money back? I would think so since they company claimed to be "very religous"
You'll just have to dike it out yourself then -- I ain't touching it.
why you would do such a thing? people like you make me sick. Unix is a great platform, period.
Mmmm, I have to take exception to this because the computer is no more special than any other human invention.
:) )
If we hypothetise that God would not look down on what we do with computers, we would have to make the same allowance for all of our other inventions. Guns, drugs, nuclear bombs, electric chairs, gas chambers, crowd-sized ovens, etc...
Killing is killing, lying is lying. The means itself has little moral content. What you do with it matters, what you do it with matters little.
I'm not particularly religious, in fact, I believe on the basis of Pascal's Gambit more than for any other reason. But, we have to remember that the computer is a tool. Nothing more.
No belief system in the world, be it Judeo-Christian Commandments or the Gita, or the Quoran, exempts technology as a means of deviation from 'acceptable' behavior. To do so would be to open up a can of worms the size of creation itself. Simple machines (i.e. pitfalls) would be allowable as modes of killing, and not frowned upon morally, because they would be the works of man. Crimes would only be crimes if committed with bare hands. Children would be exempted from moral behavior as creations of their parents...
Messy. Morality of an act is defined by the act, not the means by which it is performed. The intention is more significant than the medium in which it is performed.
(Wow, parochial school was useful for something after all.
-- What you do today will cost you a day of your life.
I note, with wry amusement, that only on posts of a religious nature do I get moderated both up and down. I just think it's interesting: why would posts of a religious nature be so disputed when other posts are not?
My conclusion: a large percentage have an axe to grind.
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That's quite a read. Stephen King does Xenix.
Spooky.
And the poem itself has a nice thick veneer of christianity. The monsters Beowulf goes kicking the crap out of (and ultimately gets beaten down by) are the God-damned descendents of Cain. A shining example of an early Chrisitan hero.
My favorites:
touch of death
touch me
Check it out
"Even without this kind of posturing, some resellers say they find the notion of a religious operating system to be offensive. To quote one anonymous reseller, 'Yup. Linux is officially a religion now. What's next, crucifixion of NT users?'"
For host puns you need the Catholic version of the software.
So...do you want to see my, er, distro? I'll install it on your, ah, hardware for, er, free. Your cat may, ah, watch, if you want.
Have you used the, um, scientific method to test your cat hypothesis or are you making important life decisions based on, er, anecdotal evidence? Perhaps you think making such a statement will make you somehow "wierd" and therefore more intersting, hmm?
I hope I burn in hell for this one.
Geeks4Christ is just starting out and is getting a lot of help from some very talented guys out there.
If you wish to fellowship there is a list for Christian Geeks.
To subcribe send an email to geeks4christ-subscribe@forchrist.com.
There is also a GOOD OpenSource Bible program being created at Crosswire.
God Bless,
Derek Neighbors
Geeks4Christ
I think the last paragraph is a giveaway - "Even without this kind of posturing, some resellers say they find the notion of a religious operating system to be offensive. To quote one anonymous reseller, 'Yup. Linux is officially a religion now. What's next, crucifixion of NT users?'" The fabricated anonymous quote is a classic device is yellow journalism. Bet they created the page and all. Much cleverer than I'd have given them credit for.
I am a christian, went to a christian highschool, go to church every week, and if Jesux is for real then it's rediculous... I'm sure it's well intentioned, but taken way too far IMHO..
Not accepting sendmail because it was written by a homosexual is, if anything, unchristian! Everyone sins, and you are supposed to accept ppl despite their sins. If you don't accept code written by a homosexual because they sin, then you better-off not accept any of the code because it was ALL written by sinners.
The "abort" command, I assume, was changed because they connected it with abortion. but the word abortion came from the word abort not visa versa. The military aborts missions, is that wrong too??
No encryption? does that mean they can't use SSL to connect to a webserver for secure purchaces? Even if you have nothing to hide, you still don't want to give away your creditcard number to anyone running a sniffer.
as for using the words kill and daemon in the os, I think it's fine because they have essentially different meanings... if you rename kill as stop or something does it change the action. if they do think using those words is bad then can you use them at all? or can you never talk about killing or daemons at all, and if that's the case then you'd better not read the bible.
things like having squid set-up to restrict internet access can be good if you have kids or something, but there's also internet providers that will do that for you too (which would be harder for the kids to find ways around).
So either I'm too liberal of a christian, or this is just extreme legalism (kinda like the pharasees in the Bible).
As to what salvation feels like, it isn't a feeling. It doesn't feel like anything. Being saved is more like being a son or daughter, there is no "feeling" associated with it. It is a state of being or a relationship. Salvation has been linked to joy, but joy and happiness are completely different. See the book of Philippians for more info.
Finally, as to speaking in toungues, although I don't deny the gift exists, I would not consider it a prerequisite for salvation.
"Continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling, for it is God who works in you to will and to act according to his good purpose." Philippians 2:13-14
And for the crackers... I suppose you'd be able to use it to get in the backdoor of some systems?
And what about virus protection? "Protect your computer from Internet-transmitted diseases. Put a Condom on your Penix."
Hmmm... Red Hat Penix... that should be interesting.
Penii may be incorrect, but it's funnier...
Hemos et al,
It seems the overwhelming majority of Slashdot readers are those who belong to persuasions other than Christianity. That's cool--everybody's got to do his/her own thing. My question is, why are so many, regardless of philisophical leaning, so quick to dismiss a Christian Linux distro as a hoax? I went and checked this site out myself, as it sounded like something Christian Linux users could use. I know that I'd certainly check it out, and possibly even make it _my_ OS, if in fact it existed. The site says that it is not a hoax, refutes Slashdot comments that say it is a hoax, et cetera. So it's not a hoax. I for one think it's a good thing. Why don't we have more diverse Linux distrubutions, anyway? For all those non-Christians who grumble about our religion, by all means, create your own distro with your own ideas. But don't begrudge us something that means a lot to us. I applaud the efforts of those who are creating this distribution, and am disappointed in those of the open-source community who, while proclaiming themselves to be so open-minded, are so quick to dismiss something new as an "obvious hoax." Try not to be _quite_ so skeptical, folks.
Now _that_ would sell...
Details at http://jya.com/cejfiles.htm
hell, i'd install that over my bsd box in an instant. what about bdsmbsd?
I read it in like 7th grade. I do remeber that Tuxowolf link, which I found hilarious (I lost the link, search would work). I remember thinkning how neat it was, but sounded like grunting to me..
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>sort of perverse pleasure in knowing that it's basically impossible to send a piece of hate mail through the Internet without its being touched by a gay program
How can a program be gay?
I think this would be a good time for us all to stop and reflect on the power of the media.
I was brought up catholic, and although I'm more of a zen sort of guy now, I still have deep affection for my old school. I think the Jesux page is a rather generous, gentle parody with a lot of heart. Sincere Christians would get a huge kick out of it. The tech references are clueful, the theology is a bit out there, but I know Christians who joke about stuff like abortion dogma and biblical interpretation amongst themselves to a degree you'd think they were longshoremen gloating about in-port conquests. I've met former divinity students who had Last Temptation of Christ keggers!
For a final appraisal, you guys should ask guys like Russ Nelson and Larry Wall what they think. They're prominent Christian open-sourcers, and personally, I think they'd find this page a total hoot.
Brak: What's THAT?
Thundercleese: A light switch.. of TOTAL DEVASTATION!
I have always felt uneasy about those spineless whiners .So, the sooner they're replaced with normal, constructive humans, the better!
Just thought I'd throw out SINux into the pile here. (www.sinux.org) I don't think they have a religious connotation though.
"I will give you control of penix.com"
... like orgasme ;)
No, give control of penix.org
"The obvious mathematical breakthrough would be development of an easy way to factor large prime numbers." Bill Gates,