Except for the harm it does to US software houses, the ban is ineffective. I don't know anyone outside the US who who uses encryption and DOESN'T use at least 128bits as their low level crypto option.
The (modern) German constitution and legal system is based on the AngloSaxon model. If you still have not got the point - your (the US) system is also based on the AngloSaxon model - you are saying you don't know about your own constitution or its origins? That to be brutally frank does not supprise me.
Some correction is needed here. The Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution (as in BfV)has 'Officials' (as in Beampte) not Police (as in Polizi). Their power is not as you describe. Any powers they have are precisely described in the Federal Constitution and Law (die Paragraphen) and in enforcing rulings of the Constitutional Court, they are as in most other western and AngloSaxon countries, 'servants of the court'. In this case only the power of the court as defined in the constitution.
Proving that two negatives (- x 2) do not equal a positive, the Lord High Admiral (c) Gilbert & Sullivan, charges CmdrTaco with endangering his vessel by navigating in red hot chilli infested waters, thereby causing his double-bottom to be scorched BER (beyond ecconomic repair). Further, although a civilian (and therefore ignorant of the dangers of red hot chillies to CmdrTaco's vessel's (double) bottom) Mr Schmidt, did with no malice aforthought, by displaying false navigation lights did lure ComdrTaco and his vessel into the aforementioned red hot chilli infested waters thus endangering HMS/USS (strike out as necessary, according to prejudice) 'Slash-Dot'. Mr Eric Schmidt is hereby demoted to Eric Schmidtlein (diminutive of Schmidt, for none linguists) with immediate effect.
Those of you expecting 'the four o'clock knock' from Hoover's G.. Men may be in for a supprise! I used to think that 'Hoover sucks' was PR for the vacuum cleaner company - Oh nieve youth! They might be annoyed if the J. Edgar Hoover Building was renamed "The Closet" or "Tea Rooms". Just an idea:-))
The message has not got through. If security relies on 'closed' or 'secret' code the code is not secure. Only by 'many eyes' who know what they are looking for will any code ever be 'reasonably' secure. "Secure is an aspiration not an achievement."
We can all feel righteous outrage and screw up the solution to the wrong problem. In the early days (when Babbage was a child:-).) when there were no programming languages computing was akin to a black art and only mathematicians and brains like Turing understood. Today is very different. Young men like the 'celebrities' refered to, while young to the post Turing generation like me are old and god like to 'minors' (how I dislike that word). The future is not their's, they have had their time and a new generation of original thinkers are now using/programing GNU/Linux. Even though Corel may have acted on sound legal advice for good commercial reasons my grandson's question to me this lunchtime "Grandpa, why are you still using Corel WordPerfect when they won't let me download Linux?" required a long and not very convincing answer. The 14 - 17 year olds using GNU/Linux today are the IT Directors (VPs) of tomorrow and as every parent knows children have a long memory. It is not the point that Bruce Perens has no PR; it is rather that Corel PR may well have shot themselves seriously in the foot. PS. I use WP because I'm too old to change, my grandson used it because it was not MS. He is currently converting all his files on Sun's StarOffice(r).
Yes, but we in Europe know WHERE America is! Therefore we know where to look. I recall that America was an original and interesting discovery - lets Patent America!
I used a distributed computer system that appears to meet the Intel patent description before Intel existed. What on earth are the US patent office doing? Obviously not investigating anything outside US boundaries. I would Luuuuve to see Chipzilla try to make this stick!
A a retired CEO of a consultancy/VAR selling WordPerfect/Corel products and related services I was not amused by the Corel license on Linux, to put it very mildly. I have today written to Corel to express my concerns but as I do not have the purchasing power anymore, I suspect my critism will have no effect. I made the point that the 14, 15 and 16 year-olds of today are the IT directors of tomorrow. I would be very sure whose product I would NOT allow through the doors!
As someone falling into the 'boring old fart' age bracket I can understand the legal reasons for this but I personally find it totally unacceptable - somehow it must be changed. For the paranoid it would seem that the lawers are affraid of the 'Rubics Cube Syndrome' - if a logic problem is too difficult for 'adults' give it to a minor to solve. Perhaps the children of parents who work at Corel could go on 'video machine' strike - change the rules or we won't program your video:-))
I agree. Did you also know that WINNT also has some US Govt code in the so called security features. So much so that all UK Govt contractors MUST use a replacement part provided by a UK institution.
It might be prudent to consider who is protecting the rights of US citizens in the electronic age. Certainly not the Bill of Rights. The founding Fathers could not have forseen the current situation and there is no Common or Statute Law in the US to protect Joe Public. TRUSTe, give me a break they are not even a huge joke - just a little one! Wake up! you have no important rights for the moders age and Europe is trying to encourage your government in this direction because US voters have failed and it is in our (EU and US) mutual interest to have personal rights. Before US/.ers sink further into their ignorant isolationism some rational thought is required - if that is at all possible?? Free trade?? the US is the last country on earth to talk with any moral authority about free trade. Anything which maintains or reinforces US advantage in every area of human endeavour is free trade. Well, after waiting for Britain to be on her knees in 1942 before "comming over to save Europe from itself" (an oft quoted and ill informed view), ensuring that the total wealth of the nation was bled dry, and by loans that made Shylock seem like a charitable institution, the free gifts of all our technology from Radar, to Sonar, the Jet engine, Neuclear energy, etc etc. Just what Has the US given to the world??? Please don't say the microprocessor - that chessnut has been beaten to death. For the great number of citizens who do not know where Europe is - it is standing right behind you ready to kick you in the arse. With a larger population, larger GDP, more original thought, etc etc - the only way the US can retain any form of standing in the 21 Century is by the US version of free trade. Well, guys, sorry to dissapoint you, but if you continue in this vain I recommend that you stick your heads between your legs and kiss your arse goodbye. I thought since my post graduate days in the US things might have changed - they seem to have got(ten) worse. Get with the programme and join the world - if not, who knows what might happen.
If I may point/.ers in the right direction. 1. Intelligence (Mil, Pol, Eco, etc) is NOT collected as you seem to think - It is the product of analysis and other processes. Information/Data is collected and some of it is processed. 2. Take only the connected PCs on the Internet even without any form of encryption on transmissions and try to think of the math(s) involved in just intercepting the HTML formated data, excluding graphics, etc and Fermats last theorem begins to look like 4th grade stuff. 3. When it comes to analysis and 'other processes' all the computer processing power available to any organisation you care to mention cannot do pattern recognition like the human brain - not yet anyway - just wait a while! 4. The realy important questions governments ask of their intelligence agencies precludes idle interest in J. Doe - there is just not the time or resources to waste on such trivia (that is trivia to Govt - not to the individual perhaps), unless J Doe is the Deputy Director having an affair with the Second Secretary of embassy 'X'. 5. If J. Doe's personal information (not the one having an affair with the second secretary) is anywhere in a government department can you imagine how difficult it would be to get. It is difficult enough to get information to which citizens are lawfully entitled out of Government. 6. I would suggest, of much greater concern to J. Doe is the profiling and other methods commercial organisations, etc collect on each and everyone of us. That information is not only NOT protected it is actually sold to anyone with the $$s. 7. Perhaps concern should be expressed at the refusal of the Chairman of the FCC to even consider a 'Privacy Statute', which would at least make it a requirement for personal information to be protected from unauthorized access. The question all of us must ask without appropriate legislation is do we trust commercial organisations with our personal details - Real Networks amongst many thousands! 8. Until there is adequate protection of personal information in the USA there will be continuing difficulties with the EU on eCommerce matters and this may be raised at the upcomming WTO meeting. We generally get the governments and laws we deserve?
Yup! I couldn't understand why the moderator scored *0* for this either. The ellips is math(s) every sub-18 yr old should understand and its relevance for cryptography could be important for those concerned about privacy as current public methods are becomming increasingly vulnerable. In theory it could be infinitely??? variable by moving the 'x' and 'y' axies x + or - a and y + or - b for elips (xy). The model could also be dynamic varying the cypher as the message is being transmitted. I'm having difficulty getting a static test model to work, but I'm only and engineer! Other useful info. The Professor of mathematics at University College Dublin (Ireland) has announced a 2000 number prime - just for the millenium.
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Very bad luck to mock the Trolls. Look what happened to Britain when the Vikings visited. Still a little rape and pillage would break the bordom.
Except for the harm it does to US software houses, the ban is ineffective. I don't know anyone outside the US who who uses encryption and DOESN'T use at least 128bits as their low level crypto option.
XML, XSL, etc. see www.xml.com (cos HTML like this page does not work, adequately.
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The (modern) German constitution and legal system is based on the AngloSaxon model. If you still have not got the point - your (the US) system is also based on the AngloSaxon model - you are saying you don't know about your own constitution or its origins? That to be brutally frank does not supprise me.
Your typing was quicker than mine! see below. signed: Freundlicher Inzel Affe. (Private Euro Joke)
Some correction is needed here. The Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution (as in BfV)has 'Officials' (as in Beampte) not Police (as in Polizi). Their power is not as you describe. Any powers they have are precisely described in the Federal Constitution and Law (die Paragraphen) and in enforcing rulings of the Constitutional Court, they are as in most other western and AngloSaxon countries, 'servants of the court'. In this case only the power of the court as defined in the constitution.
Proving that two negatives (- x 2) do not equal a positive, the Lord High Admiral (c) Gilbert & Sullivan, charges CmdrTaco with endangering his vessel by navigating in red hot chilli infested waters, thereby causing his double-bottom to be scorched BER (beyond ecconomic repair). Further, although a civilian (and therefore ignorant of the dangers of red hot chillies to CmdrTaco's vessel's (double) bottom) Mr Schmidt, did with no malice aforthought, by displaying false navigation lights did lure ComdrTaco and his vessel into the aforementioned red hot chilli infested waters thus endangering HMS/USS (strike out as necessary, according to prejudice) 'Slash-Dot'. Mr Eric Schmidt is hereby demoted to Eric Schmidtlein (diminutive of Schmidt, for none linguists) with immediate effect.
Those of you expecting 'the four o'clock knock' from Hoover's G.. Men may be in for a supprise! I used to think that 'Hoover sucks' was PR for the vacuum cleaner company - Oh nieve youth! They might be annoyed if the J. Edgar Hoover Building was renamed "The Closet" or "Tea Rooms". Just an idea :-))
"403.2 Forbidden - read access forbidden" Have the Secret Police got a court order already?
The message has not got through. If security relies on 'closed' or 'secret' code the code is not secure. Only by 'many eyes' who know what they are looking for will any code ever be 'reasonably' secure. "Secure is an aspiration not an achievement."
Tandem is the market leader in stocks NOT 390.
Has IBM got a six nines GNU/Linux os? Yes please, two for Xmas.
Is Mozilla GPLed, does it matter?
We can all feel righteous outrage and screw up the solution to the wrong problem. In the early days (when Babbage was a child :-).) when there were no programming languages computing was akin to a black art and only mathematicians and brains like Turing understood. Today is very different. Young men like the 'celebrities' refered to, while young to the post Turing generation like me are old and god like to 'minors' (how I dislike that word). The future is not their's, they have had their time and a new generation of original thinkers are now using/programing GNU/Linux. Even though Corel may have acted on sound legal advice for good commercial reasons my grandson's question to me this lunchtime "Grandpa, why are you still using Corel WordPerfect when they won't let me download Linux?" required a long and not very convincing answer. The 14 - 17 year olds using GNU/Linux today are the IT Directors (VPs) of tomorrow and as every parent knows children have a long memory. It is not the point that Bruce Perens has no PR; it is rather that Corel PR may well have shot themselves seriously in the foot. PS. I use WP because I'm too old to change, my grandson used it because it was not MS. He is currently converting all his files on Sun's StarOffice(r).
Yes, but we in Europe know WHERE America is! Therefore we know where to look. I recall that America was an original and interesting discovery - lets Patent America!
I used a distributed computer system that appears to meet the Intel patent description before Intel existed. What on earth are the US patent office doing? Obviously not investigating anything outside US boundaries. I would Luuuuve to see Chipzilla try to make this stick!
Feel free, more the merrier, excellent fertilizer!
A a retired CEO of a consultancy/VAR selling WordPerfect/Corel products and related services I was not amused by the Corel license on Linux, to put it very mildly. I have today written to Corel to express my concerns but as I do not have the purchasing power anymore, I suspect my critism will have no effect. I made the point that the 14, 15 and 16 year-olds of today are the IT directors of tomorrow. I would be very sure whose product I would NOT allow through the doors!
It's all a matter of 'tortology'!
As someone falling into the 'boring old fart' age bracket I can understand the legal reasons for this but I personally find it totally unacceptable - somehow it must be changed. For the paranoid it would seem that the lawers are affraid of the 'Rubics Cube Syndrome' - if a logic problem is too difficult for 'adults' give it to a minor to solve. Perhaps the children of parents who work at Corel could go on 'video machine' strike - change the rules or we won't program your video :-))
I agree. Did you also know that WINNT also has some US Govt code in the so called security features. So much so that all UK Govt contractors MUST use a replacement part provided by a UK institution.
It might be prudent to consider who is protecting the rights of US citizens in the electronic age. Certainly not the Bill of Rights. The founding Fathers could not have forseen the current situation and there is no Common or Statute Law in the US to protect Joe Public. TRUSTe, give me a break they are not even a huge joke - just a little one! Wake up! you have no important rights for the moders age and Europe is trying to encourage your government in this direction because US voters have failed and it is in our (EU and US) mutual interest to have personal rights. Before US /.ers sink further into their ignorant isolationism some rational thought is required - if that is at all possible?? Free trade?? the US is the last country on earth to talk with any moral authority about free trade. Anything which maintains or reinforces US advantage in every area of human endeavour is free trade. Well, after waiting for Britain to be on her knees in 1942 before "comming over to save Europe from itself" (an oft quoted and ill informed view), ensuring that the total wealth of the nation was bled dry, and by loans that made Shylock seem like a charitable institution, the free gifts of all our technology from Radar, to Sonar, the Jet engine, Neuclear energy, etc etc. Just what Has the US given to the world??? Please don't say the microprocessor - that chessnut has been beaten to death. For the great number of citizens who do not know where Europe is - it is standing right behind you ready to kick you in the arse. With a larger population, larger GDP, more original thought, etc etc - the only way the US can retain any form of standing in the 21 Century is by the US version of free trade. Well, guys, sorry to dissapoint you, but if you continue in this vain I recommend that you stick your heads between your legs and kiss your arse goodbye. I thought since my post graduate days in the US things might have changed - they seem to have got(ten) worse. Get with the programme and join the world - if not, who knows what might happen.
If I may point /.ers in the right direction. 1. Intelligence (Mil, Pol, Eco, etc) is NOT collected as you seem to think - It is the product of analysis and other processes. Information/Data is collected and some of it is processed. 2. Take only the connected PCs on the Internet even without any form of encryption on transmissions and try to think of the math(s) involved in just intercepting the HTML formated data, excluding graphics, etc and Fermats last theorem begins to look like 4th grade stuff. 3. When it comes to analysis and 'other processes' all the computer processing power available to any organisation you care to mention cannot do pattern recognition like the human brain - not yet anyway - just wait a while! 4. The realy important questions governments ask of their intelligence agencies precludes idle interest in J. Doe - there is just not the time or resources to waste on such trivia (that is trivia to Govt - not to the individual perhaps), unless J Doe is the Deputy Director having an affair with the Second Secretary of embassy 'X'. 5. If J. Doe's personal information (not the one having an affair with the second secretary) is anywhere in a government department can you imagine how difficult it would be to get. It is difficult enough to get information to which citizens are lawfully entitled out of Government. 6. I would suggest, of much greater concern to J. Doe is the profiling and other methods commercial organisations, etc collect on each and everyone of us. That information is not only NOT protected it is actually sold to anyone with the $$s. 7. Perhaps concern should be expressed at the refusal of the Chairman of the FCC to even consider a 'Privacy Statute', which would at least make it a requirement for personal information to be protected from unauthorized access. The question all of us must ask without appropriate legislation is do we trust commercial organisations with our personal details - Real Networks amongst many thousands! 8. Until there is adequate protection of personal information in the USA there will be continuing difficulties with the EU on eCommerce matters and this may be raised at the upcomming WTO meeting. We generally get the governments and laws we deserve?
Yup! I couldn't understand why the moderator scored *0* for this either. The ellips is math(s) every sub-18 yr old should understand and its relevance for cryptography could be important for those concerned about privacy as current public methods are becomming increasingly vulnerable. In theory it could be infinitely??? variable by moving the 'x' and 'y' axies x + or - a and y + or - b for elips (xy). The model could also be dynamic varying the cypher as the message is being transmitted. I'm having difficulty getting a static test model to work, but I'm only and engineer! Other useful info. The Professor of mathematics at University College Dublin (Ireland) has announced a 2000 number prime - just for the millenium.