If they just put an expiration date on data collected from non-stolen vehicles belonging to non-felons, I have absolutely no opposition to this measure.
As has been mentioned before, this is just very efficient data collection of already public data done by a tool that is being directly operated by a human (the patrol car has a cop behind its wheel). This means it's not a weird passive voyeurism like we get with cameras, and is certainly much more limited as far as its observational scope goes.
And if it makes finding a stolen car that much more efficient, I'm all for it.
It's a trap. Even if the guy who's pushing for this is someone who genuinely wants to push FOSS within Microsoft, Microsoft as a corporation does not. If it ever does allow this to happen to a significant extent, it's because they have some evil plan to Mer GNU/Linux in the balls.
They like Merring balls.
shoot me...
Yes, it has crossed my mind. Hell, I'm aware of it.
The big thing is... is it good enough to not warrant a $300+ expenditure? That there is the question.
I don't use the templates either, and I use OpenOffice exclusively (even though I have a legal license for 2003). My point is that a lot of people do. I was surprised about this fact, too, specially seeing at how utterly upset people got when a number of templates that they depended on were just no there.
I do remember, though, most of my classmates making extensive use of clipart, specially in Powerpoint. We got powerpoint presentation classes in my high school...
Maybe they should stop treating *me* like shit when I'm trying to be respectful to their desires. Maybe you're seeing that quote in a different light. The context is: I installed OOo with the possibility of switching them over to an open alternative that wouldn't cost an arm and a leg to buy and upgrade every couple of years, and could possibly even become the norm for them. I installed it saying that I did have Office 2007 licenses that I would install immediately if there was really something important that they couldn't do, or if they just really wanted it.
They responded with cursing, tantrums, and general disrespect because of the lack of ONE thing they just kinda wanted. I'm contrasting this angry, almost nonsensical response with their immediate glee and acceptance of something that runs much slower (on the computers we have, pentium 2s and 3s with no more than 200mb of ram), does generally the same thing, and has a bit more eyecandy that I admit is pretty useful once you get used to it.
That's the context of my comment, and when I'm not complaining about the shit they pull on slashdot, I treat them with the utmost respect and do whatever they want me to do to get the place and its computers running properly. Hell, I spend most of my time there as a volunteer, way beyond the 5 hours of paid work I get a week.
Only reason they had 2007 in the first place is because they bought those licenses right before I started working there, and "it would be a waste" (I kinda agree).
It's still amazing to me that a non-profit that barely has enough money to pay their teachers, and relies on computer donations for their hardware is willing to throw out the cash for the sake of having WinXP and Office2007.
I have a bit of an insidious plan though. Besides those 7 licenses, the other 25 computers in the place run pirated copies of Windows. When they're told that not getting sued by Microsoft by paying up will cost them over $1000, they'll bend over and enjoy the sweet, sweet linux lovin' I have in store for them.
What What!
I don't need to. Office 2007 already runs like shit on these computers.
First one I loaded it on took 20 seconds to get to the document, choked up every 5 letters written, and all the ribbon buttons responded 1-2 seconds after being pressed.
They don't *care*. Because it's Microsoft.
I kind of agree with what you're saying, even thought it sounds a bit trollish.
OpenOffice doesn't have the sheer number of included templates, clipart, special fonts, etc, that people love using so much. People don't want to mess around with things to do something that Word lets you do by just clicking on the initial stuff.
And as much as I dislike 2007, I gotta hand it to them for reworking the interface so much. I guess there's still a bit of innovation left in 'em. On the other hand, Microsoft Office is the only suite that can afford innovation. Anything else that wants to pick up market share ends up (with good reason) copying everything Office can do. Sometimes, you can't afford to innovate until you have a market share that actually has integers left of the decimal point.
I recently became the sysadmin for a nonprofit. First thing they had me do was install 7 copies of XP on 7 P3 900mhz 256mb RAM IBMs that were donated. We also had 7 licenses for Office 2007, but I opted to install OpenOffice first and see if they were happy with that.
Then the first person I upgraded for threw a tantrum because Writer didn't have a "diploma-style border" available and "it doesn't have the fonts I need! (neither did Word)".
Needless to say, I gave them Office 2007, which runs amazingly slow on those computers. Everyone except this one woman uses word processors for very basic writing tasks, but now they all want 2007... and they were so incredibly happy when it got installed.
Microsoft's influence is just that strong. People want what Microsoft peddles. It doesn't matter if it works better. That's what they're used to, that's what they know, that's what they've learned to use through rote tasks, that's what they'll continue to try and use. Hell, they looked at 'ribbon' and thought it was the best thing that was ever created for an office suite, and one of them started giggling with glee.
Help me T_T
You can avoid grinding in EVE Online completely. Your skills train 24/7 automatically, so you'll usually have around the same number of skills as a person that started within 2 months of you, give or take depending on the layout. You can also completely avoid money-grinding by moving in with a 0.0 alliance and relying on rewards and occasional operations for income. If you want to grind, though, it lets you do that too... in fact, a lot of people just choose to grind. Asteroid miners in particular come to mind.
I feel ya, I hate xorg.conf as well. I've installed a bunch of different distros on my computers. Not once in my time with GNU/Linux have I ever had the privilege of getting Xorg to run off any automated xorg.conf script. Not even in Ubuntu. I have crummy luck:(
Both posters above me are obviously trolls. There is no redeeming quality about either of the distros they support.
I know this because I use Fedora. Now THAT is a real distro. You copycat wannabees can go crawl back in your little hermit holes and listen to your MP3s. I'm gonna go be smart AND popular.
But my concern is that the 90% is going to be composed of people who aren't interested in playing around with other distros. Ubuntu users will want Ubuntu and will become incredibly confused when they see anything different.
There's also the whole thing with Ubuntu being obsessed with python. It might mean that every single mainstream linux app in the future is going to be developed exclusively in py.:-\
My main concern here is how much attention "smaller" linux distros, and possibly even other kernels and POSIX systems are going to receive when Ubuntu suddenly takes 99% of the linux userbase (or rather, makes it through new users).
Will we actually see more stuff getting made that's easily compatible with all distros, or is ubuntu going to set up its own funky standardizing system that pushes any other given distro back weeks on releases?
Microsoft has been doing this for years now. They call it an "operating system" and also "office suite". Those are just code names though, don't let it fool you!
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If they just put an expiration date on data collected from non-stolen vehicles belonging to non-felons, I have absolutely no opposition to this measure. As has been mentioned before, this is just very efficient data collection of already public data done by a tool that is being directly operated by a human (the patrol car has a cop behind its wheel). This means it's not a weird passive voyeurism like we get with cameras, and is certainly much more limited as far as its observational scope goes. And if it makes finding a stolen car that much more efficient, I'm all for it.
It's a trap. Even if the guy who's pushing for this is someone who genuinely wants to push FOSS within Microsoft, Microsoft as a corporation does not. If it ever does allow this to happen to a significant extent, it's because they have some evil plan to Mer GNU/Linux in the balls. They like Merring balls. shoot me...
Yes, it has crossed my mind. Hell, I'm aware of it. The big thing is... is it good enough to not warrant a $300+ expenditure? That there is the question.
Will this apply to cell phone companies and their secret charges, too?
I don't use the templates either, and I use OpenOffice exclusively (even though I have a legal license for 2003). My point is that a lot of people do. I was surprised about this fact, too, specially seeing at how utterly upset people got when a number of templates that they depended on were just no there. I do remember, though, most of my classmates making extensive use of clipart, specially in Powerpoint. We got powerpoint presentation classes in my high school...
Maybe they should stop treating *me* like shit when I'm trying to be respectful to their desires. Maybe you're seeing that quote in a different light. The context is: I installed OOo with the possibility of switching them over to an open alternative that wouldn't cost an arm and a leg to buy and upgrade every couple of years, and could possibly even become the norm for them. I installed it saying that I did have Office 2007 licenses that I would install immediately if there was really something important that they couldn't do, or if they just really wanted it. They responded with cursing, tantrums, and general disrespect because of the lack of ONE thing they just kinda wanted. I'm contrasting this angry, almost nonsensical response with their immediate glee and acceptance of something that runs much slower (on the computers we have, pentium 2s and 3s with no more than 200mb of ram), does generally the same thing, and has a bit more eyecandy that I admit is pretty useful once you get used to it. That's the context of my comment, and when I'm not complaining about the shit they pull on slashdot, I treat them with the utmost respect and do whatever they want me to do to get the place and its computers running properly. Hell, I spend most of my time there as a volunteer, way beyond the 5 hours of paid work I get a week.
Besides the price tag, OOXML, Ribbon, and system requirements... is there an actual reason why Office 2007 is just bad?
Only reason they had 2007 in the first place is because they bought those licenses right before I started working there, and "it would be a waste" (I kinda agree). It's still amazing to me that a non-profit that barely has enough money to pay their teachers, and relies on computer donations for their hardware is willing to throw out the cash for the sake of having WinXP and Office2007. I have a bit of an insidious plan though. Besides those 7 licenses, the other 25 computers in the place run pirated copies of Windows. When they're told that not getting sued by Microsoft by paying up will cost them over $1000, they'll bend over and enjoy the sweet, sweet linux lovin' I have in store for them. What What!
I don't need to. Office 2007 already runs like shit on these computers. First one I loaded it on took 20 seconds to get to the document, choked up every 5 letters written, and all the ribbon buttons responded 1-2 seconds after being pressed. They don't *care*. Because it's Microsoft.
I kind of agree with what you're saying, even thought it sounds a bit trollish. OpenOffice doesn't have the sheer number of included templates, clipart, special fonts, etc, that people love using so much. People don't want to mess around with things to do something that Word lets you do by just clicking on the initial stuff. And as much as I dislike 2007, I gotta hand it to them for reworking the interface so much. I guess there's still a bit of innovation left in 'em. On the other hand, Microsoft Office is the only suite that can afford innovation. Anything else that wants to pick up market share ends up (with good reason) copying everything Office can do. Sometimes, you can't afford to innovate until you have a market share that actually has integers left of the decimal point.
I recently became the sysadmin for a nonprofit. First thing they had me do was install 7 copies of XP on 7 P3 900mhz 256mb RAM IBMs that were donated. We also had 7 licenses for Office 2007, but I opted to install OpenOffice first and see if they were happy with that. Then the first person I upgraded for threw a tantrum because Writer didn't have a "diploma-style border" available and "it doesn't have the fonts I need! (neither did Word)". Needless to say, I gave them Office 2007, which runs amazingly slow on those computers. Everyone except this one woman uses word processors for very basic writing tasks, but now they all want 2007... and they were so incredibly happy when it got installed. Microsoft's influence is just that strong. People want what Microsoft peddles. It doesn't matter if it works better. That's what they're used to, that's what they know, that's what they've learned to use through rote tasks, that's what they'll continue to try and use. Hell, they looked at 'ribbon' and thought it was the best thing that was ever created for an office suite, and one of them started giggling with glee. Help me T_T
You can avoid grinding in EVE Online completely. Your skills train 24/7 automatically, so you'll usually have around the same number of skills as a person that started within 2 months of you, give or take depending on the layout. You can also completely avoid money-grinding by moving in with a 0.0 alliance and relying on rewards and occasional operations for income. If you want to grind, though, it lets you do that too... in fact, a lot of people just choose to grind. Asteroid miners in particular come to mind.
I feel ya, I hate xorg.conf as well. I've installed a bunch of different distros on my computers. Not once in my time with GNU/Linux have I ever had the privilege of getting Xorg to run off any automated xorg.conf script. Not even in Ubuntu. I have crummy luck :(
Both posters above me are obviously trolls. There is no redeeming quality about either of the distros they support. I know this because I use Fedora. Now THAT is a real distro. You copycat wannabees can go crawl back in your little hermit holes and listen to your MP3s. I'm gonna go be smart AND popular.
But my concern is that the 90% is going to be composed of people who aren't interested in playing around with other distros. Ubuntu users will want Ubuntu and will become incredibly confused when they see anything different. There's also the whole thing with Ubuntu being obsessed with python. It might mean that every single mainstream linux app in the future is going to be developed exclusively in py. :-\
My main concern here is how much attention "smaller" linux distros, and possibly even other kernels and POSIX systems are going to receive when Ubuntu suddenly takes 99% of the linux userbase (or rather, makes it through new users). Will we actually see more stuff getting made that's easily compatible with all distros, or is ubuntu going to set up its own funky standardizing system that pushes any other given distro back weeks on releases?
Microsoft has been doing this for years now. They call it an "operating system" and also "office suite". Those are just code names though, don't let it fool you!