I agree with the previous poster, I do not smoke, drink, or use any illegal drug. I think Alcohol is the worst drug because it destroys more lives than just that of the person who is abusing it.
Now, I'm not going to judge your drug use. I don't care what you do to yourself. Just remember that if you do ingest anything that impairs your senses, keep your ass out of the drivers seat lest you hurt someone about whom I care.
Also, don't try to say that I, or the original poster are not "living" because we are makeing a choice not to live your type of lifestyle. I can "lighten up" and enjoy life without using mind-altering substances.
By the way, I said that I will not judge your drug use, and I am not, but if I were to put on my Freud cap, I might theorize that you are mocking someone for deciding to be clean and sober because your are ashamed about your own habits.
Actually, I saw a program on the Discovery Channel a while back about pirana. Appearently, they only eat the weak or injured ones, so it is important for a pirana never to show any weakness. They can take bites out of eachother in the feeding frenzy as well, but that's more accidently.
This, I suppose, might be able to describe the Linux disto market as well. If you're a company like Red Hat or Mandrake, you're safe, but if you're, say, Stormx, look out!
I'd suspect that you forgot to feed them for a while, and two of them started getting kinda slow...
Britian is still a larger empire than is the US, it's still a bigger empire that the US ever was.
Do you think America will still be so powerfull that they can afford to ignore everyone else.
There should have been a question mark there, but that's just a pedant. The US does not ignore everyone else. I don't listen to the commercial media news, but on NPR, at least half of the news is international.
As for the EU, what sort of power are they, exactly? Basically all they've managed to do is devalue a currency. Perhaps they could become a military power, because they are utterly failing to be a unified economic power. Somehow, I doubt that they'll manage that though. It will be cool to see what becomes of the EU in about 40-50 years, but they're not that interesting for the forseeable future.
And that's not even mentioning India,
They might be an economic threat if they ever get their population under control, pull some infastructure out of their asses, and the US stops handing out H1-B visas.
Bush is Nero, fiddling whilst the empire crumbles.
Ok, I guess Bush and Nero would be similar in that they are both idiotic morons, but what does Nero have to do with something that happened many many years after his death?
If one tried hard enough, one could trace the beginnings of the decline of Rome to the loss of the legion in Germany during Nero's reign, but he did not reign over the fall of Rome.
No, acutally, it sounds like a pretty accurate assessment of the situation. Ideas are not property.
The Congress shall have Power . . . To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;
-- Excerpt from Article 1 Section 8 of the Constution Of the United States of America.
The above statment is where congress gets its power to make copyright and patent law. Notice, it does not say anything about property. It says that Congress can grant an exclusive right to one's invention for a limited time To promote the progress of science and useful arts. So if a copyright or patent, or law thereabout, hurts the sciences and useful arts more than it helps them, it is unconstutional.
Copyrights and patents are not about compensation, except compensation as a motivation to create. Ideas are not property, they never have been, and they only will be through bastardization of IP law's original intents.
Any violation of IP laws is simply a violation of the "Author or Inventor's" limited time exclusive right. It is not stealing, it is simply copyright/patent violation, regardless of if the "Author or Inventor" is the RIAA, or J Random Hacker.
Copyright (C) 2001 David Farley, d-farley@ibiblio.org
http://ibiblio.org/Dave/drfun.html
This cartoon is made available on the Internet for personal viewing only. Opinions expressed herein are solely those of the author.
Er, what, exactly, does that copyright notice mean? Can I not show it to a group? I find it interesting that there would be such a draconian restriction on a cartoon with such a topic.
They're a standards body, they set standards for other people to use. If they'd have included something which is patented in DNS, for example, everyone would have to pay the patent holder to develop a DNS server.
Standards have to be free from third party IP claims to be successful, so if the IETF were to include this in a standard, it would simply go unimplemented.
Re:openssh Re:typical of nutcase software...
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More generally, what do you have against DJB's and TdR's code?
Ok, this is a troll, but I'll bite.
I have nothing against Theo's code, I know the original posted appearently does, and I'd like to hear his reasoning for it. Theo's personality leaves alot to be desired, but that's another subject entirly.
Dan Bernstein's code, on the other hand, is horrible.
Consider:
$ grep "void main" -r qmail-1.03/ | wc -l
61
There is no reason why he should make such an amaturish error. I mean, it looks like he's trying to win the obfusicated C contest.
Take this peice of code:
/*@null@*//*@out@*/char *alloc(n)
unsigned int n;
{
char *x;
n = ALIGNMENT + n - (n & (ALIGNMENT - 1));/* XXX: could overflow */
if (n <= avail) { avail -= n; return space + avail; }
x = malloc(n);
if (!x) errno = error_nomem;
return x;
}
What was that? Well, it'd be nice if he'd get out
of grade school and start using descriptive variable names. I love a puzzle, but 'x' and 'n' are absurd.
He has a very noncanonical way to handle function arguments, but it's his project, and if that floats his boat, so be it. What I really have problems with is his brace style. Not that I really mind any consistant style, but when it changes at random, it begins to look very unprofessional.
Oh yeah, and about that malloc. See, around these parts, malloc returns a pointer to void, so it strikes me as being a bit odd that 'x' would be a char pointer. I suppose c001 d00dz like DJB are too 1337 for casts.
I don't use DJB's code because it's not free. But even if it were, it is written unacceptably poorly.
I think that the real problem here is that a lack of diversity in OS's creates huge security problems. ie: One world, One Operating System, One exploit.
Um, this is on the server, where Microsoft dosen't have a monopoly, not even a plurality. According to netcraft, that title belongs to Apache.
So what's microsoft's problem?
There are a number of them, as I see it:
Microsoft dosen't have a good mechenisim for staying up to date on the latest patches. For example, I can put security.debian.org in my/etc/apt/sources.list, and set cron to run apt-get upgrade nightly. This will automagically install any security patches with no user intervention. Even non-debian distributions have mechenisims like manually-installable packages and quick (and honest) reporting of security issues, which make it easy to stay up to date.
Their closed-source and propietory systems extend the time between an exploit being found, and a usable patch being produced. For a classic example, look at the Ping of Death. Linux had a patch out in (exactly) 2 hours, 35 minutes, and 10 seconds. Microsoft took almost a month.
This is the most important: Microsoft administraters tend not to be as good at network administration as Unix administraters. I'm not trying to insult any softies out there, and I'm sure there are some really good Microsoft admins and poor Unix admins, but with Microsoft handing out MCSE's to any dipshit who can memorize a questions book (but probably has no experence or training with security), it's bound to happen. Unix administraters have (generally) taught themselves, which means they have many years of practical experence with their OS, or learned Unix at a real academic instution, which means that they got more than just the crash course.
Bruce Schneier once called security a "process, not a product". Microsoft has tried to pretend that they are selling a product. That you go to the store, buy Microsoft Foo 2000, pull the disks out of the shrink wrap, and use it like you'd use a television or a vacume cleaner. An Operating System is too complex of a beast for that to be the case, and no amount of Wizards or flying folders is going to change that simple fact.
Since owners of GPL'd sofware can release the same software under multiple licenses (as did Larry Wall with Perl), ask to keep ownership, but re-license it to the DoD under a BSD'ish license (or whatever else they want).
That way, it stays GPL for everyone else, but they get to incorporate it into their propietory program and everyone's happy.
to make a point she told everyone in the court room
that they could go over to my house and point to things. i had to tell them how much i thought it was
worth, and if they thought the number was too high they could just take it...
How about this: the judge had a magic photocopier than could copy anything perfectly, and everyone went over to your house and photocopied everything you own, leaving the original in your house unharmed.
But you didn't like that, because you have a magic photocopier too. You wanted to photocopy all of your stuff at a cost of $~0.30 to you, and sell the copies at the full retail cost of the originals. Because you believe that don't just own the toaster, you insist that you own the idea of the toaster.
By all accounts, architecture is art, but its main purpose is to keep the rain off of your head.
"Functional Art" has existed long before computers, and there isn't any rule that says art has to be
useless, or even that that has to be its primary function.
The essence of art is creativity being turned into something palpable, and programming and
engineering (or portions of which which involve creativity) are exactly that.
I did the same thing with att@home, and I told them that I'd be running a mail server (I didn't mention the web server, but it uses a hell of a lot less bandwith than my family downloading from napster and "surfing the web" from their Windows ME box.
The thing is, my line still sits idle most of the time. Perhaps a slow constant trickle from the servers, but it is installed in a home setting, and I've never used it to make a dime. So I haven't violated my TOS, nor is it unprofitable for AT&T. About the only times it is saturated is the few times a week with the aforementioned napster, or when I'm doing a ton of stuff with apt.
I'm a bit of a BOFH with the napster thing anyhow, so it's really not that much bandwith ether. Not to mention the fact that I always try to do major stuff with apt late at night so the server's bandwith won't be saturated.
I love it how these companies use the "Whe need huge markups to pay for Research and Development" excuse to plea for patent extensions and their warefare against the generic drug makers.
Firstly, they state many times that they are in a merger and the generally stagnent net is due to "Certain Significant Items and Merger-Related Costs" lest we think that the "Certian significant items" is research related, they state that "we invested $4.4 billion in Research and Development". Wow! that's a lot! more money than I'll ever see. Of course, this is from a company "with 2000 revenues approaching $30 billion"
So, wait a minute, pfitzer is saying that the cost R&D was only 15.7% of their gross income. This means that a generic drug manufactor selling a drug discovered by Pfitzer for 75% (a value that I think is very inflated, I heard a story on NPR a while back that said that the price of a drug can fall to a sixth of its original value after its patent expires) of it's original cost is actually making less profit on the drug after the cost of R&D has been removed from the equation.
It gets worse: Pfitzer stated that their "Full-Year Net Income [is] Up 25 Percent to $6,495 Million. That would be 6.495 Billion. So their net profit is 147% their entire R&D expenditures for 2000. Plus, Pfitzer says "while fully supporting our current products, including Lipitor, which had sales exceeding $5 billion, a Pfizer record.". So one drug had more sales than their entire Research and Development expenditures. I would also like to note that lipitor is a diet drug.
I discovered this information about Pfitzer because it was the first name of a pharmaceutical company that I could remember. I got their earnings report right off of their website, it took less than five minutes. Rather than blindly accepting the prophaganda, why not check out the facts?
These companies make massive amounts of money from their government mandated monopolies as they stand now, far more than it cost to research and and develop the drugs.
Er, since when has a clue been a requirement for a journalist?
My experence has been that a clue was a liability to a jounalist. The whole "Journalistic integrity" thing is a hell of a lot easier when one doesen't have a clue about the topic of their reporting or the consequences of their ill-informed and biased coverage.
Jounalists are most sucessful when they envelope themselves in a cloud of blissful cluelessness.
I use talk a great deal, as a Unix utility for
communicating with other users on multiuser systems. There really arn't too many other uses for it though. If you're attempting to talk to other people on the net, IRC, or instant messengers are much better than giving everybody a shell account on a box and try to organize it with write.
Talk is completely useless IMHO. It requires a daemon to work (which introduces security issues) and it simply reproduces features of write. For instance, if two people wish to talk, they can just write eachother and then take turns typing (otherwise their words will get jumbled together). The only feature talk has is the possiblility of talking to people on remote computers, which duplicates the functionality of IRC as well as creating an even larger security issue, an open talk port to the internet.
By the way, you forgot to mention wall, a really useful command with which one can communicate with all users. Very useful in administrating multiuser boxes.
I noticed you mentioned The Hacker Crackdown. It is an excellent book that everyone should read. EFF has an online version in numerous formats. I first read it a year or so ago from that site, and I've read it numerous times since. The cops pull the same tatics every single time. It's amazing how many parallels there are between operation Sundown and, say, DeCSS.
I don't thing that would be a problem, one would have to be going fast enough when one hits the atmosphere than continuing into it would make one quite well done when one hit the ground. I think the idea is to provide a ton of drag very early on so that the speeds are low enough that one does not bounce off or burn up upon re-entry.
or worse yet, angry ircops who are scriptkiddies themselves.
Heh, I know the feeling. I have frequented the SlashNET network for a few years now and have developed some fairly nice friendships. Recently, the ops of radon.slashnet.org and perdition.slashnet.org decided that it would be great fun to use their IRC Operator status to harass me.
They kickban me from the main channel at random, make the servers reset my connection, set services to automatically kick me, they've even gagged me twice. The second time they would have left it on, but I was able to ssh to another box and log in from it to make it known that I had been gagged. They then removed the gag and tried to pretend that they hadn't done it.
Needless to say, IRC, which is supposed to be a recreational activity, is now a pain. I do not get on to be abused by a couple of assholes who happen to have enough access to somebody else's bandwidth that they can become 1337 s3rv3r 0pz.
If they're trying to get rid of me, they're doing a pretty good job. I'd already be gone if I was any less interested in the other people on that network.
I wonder how many of these attacks on IRC networks are caused by an Op abusing his powers and burning a few bridges with the wrong people.
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Holy shit, is that what you call it?
I agree with the previous poster, I do not smoke, drink, or use any illegal drug. I think Alcohol is the worst drug because it destroys more lives than just that of the person who is abusing it.
Now, I'm not going to judge your drug use. I don't care what you do to yourself. Just remember that if you do ingest anything that impairs your senses, keep your ass out of the drivers seat lest you hurt someone about whom I care.
Also, don't try to say that I, or the original poster are not "living" because we are makeing a choice not to live your type of lifestyle. I can "lighten up" and enjoy life without using mind-altering substances.
By the way, I said that I will not judge your drug use, and I am not, but if I were to put on my Freud cap, I might theorize that you are mocking someone for deciding to be clean and sober because your are ashamed about your own habits.
Just a thought.
Actually, I saw a program on the Discovery Channel a while back about pirana. Appearently, they only eat the weak or injured ones, so it is important for a pirana never to show any weakness. They can take bites out of eachother in the feeding frenzy as well, but that's more accidently.
This, I suppose, might be able to describe the Linux disto market as well. If you're a company like Red Hat or Mandrake, you're safe, but if you're, say, Stormx, look out!
I'd suspect that you forgot to feed them for a while, and two of them started getting kinda slow...
Er, is there an empire here somewhere?
Britian is still a larger empire than is the US, it's still a bigger empire that the US ever was.
Do you think America will still be so powerfull that they can afford to ignore everyone else.
There should have been a question mark there, but that's just a pedant. The US does not ignore everyone else. I don't listen to the commercial media news, but on NPR, at least half of the news is international.
As for the EU, what sort of power are they, exactly? Basically all they've managed to do is devalue a currency. Perhaps they could become a military power, because they are utterly failing to be a unified economic power. Somehow, I doubt that they'll manage that though. It will be cool to see what becomes of the EU in about 40-50 years, but they're not that interesting for the forseeable future.
And that's not even mentioning India,
They might be an economic threat if they ever get their population under control, pull some infastructure out of their asses, and the US stops handing out H1-B visas.
Bush is Nero, fiddling whilst the empire crumbles.
Ok, I guess Bush and Nero would be similar in that they are both idiotic morons, but what does Nero have to do with something that happened many many years after his death?
If one tried hard enough, one could trace the beginnings of the decline of Rome to the loss of the legion in Germany during Nero's reign, but he did not reign over the fall of Rome.
No, acutally, it sounds like a pretty accurate assessment of the situation. Ideas are not property.
The Congress shall have Power . . . To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;
-- Excerpt from Article 1 Section 8 of the Constution Of the United States of America.
The above statment is where congress gets its power to make copyright and patent law. Notice, it does not say anything about property. It says that Congress can grant an exclusive right to one's invention for a limited time To promote the progress of science and useful arts. So if a copyright or patent, or law thereabout, hurts the sciences and useful arts more than it helps them, it is unconstutional.
Copyrights and patents are not about compensation, except compensation as a motivation to create. Ideas are not property, they never have been, and they only will be through bastardization of IP law's original intents.
Any violation of IP laws is simply a violation of the "Author or Inventor's" limited time exclusive right. It is not stealing, it is simply copyright/patent violation, regardless of if the "Author or Inventor" is the RIAA, or J Random Hacker.
Copyright (C) 2001 David Farley, d-farley@ibiblio.org
http://ibiblio.org/Dave/drfun.html
This cartoon is made available on the Internet for personal viewing only. Opinions expressed herein are solely those of the author.
Er, what, exactly, does that copyright notice mean? Can I not show it to a group? I find it interesting that there would be such a draconian restriction on a cartoon with such a topic.
Er, do you know what the IETF is?
They're a standards body, they set standards for other people to use. If they'd have included something which is patented in DNS, for example, everyone would have to pay the patent holder to develop a DNS server.
Standards have to be free from third party IP claims to be successful, so if the IETF were to include this in a standard, it would simply go unimplemented.
Ok, this is a troll, but I'll bite.
I have nothing against Theo's code, I know the original posted appearently does, and I'd like to hear his reasoning for it. Theo's personality leaves alot to be desired, but that's another subject entirly.
Dan Bernstein's code, on the other hand, is horrible.
Consider:
$ grep "void main" -r qmail-1.03/ | wc -l 61There is no reason why he should make such an amaturish error. I mean, it looks like he's trying to win the obfusicated C contest.
Take this peice of code:
What was that? Well, it'd be nice if he'd get out of grade school and start using descriptive variable names. I love a puzzle, but 'x' and 'n' are absurd.
He has a very noncanonical way to handle function arguments, but it's his project, and if that floats his boat, so be it. What I really have problems with is his brace style. Not that I really mind any consistant style, but when it changes at random, it begins to look very unprofessional.
Oh yeah, and about that malloc. See, around these parts, malloc returns a pointer to void, so it strikes me as being a bit odd that 'x' would be a char pointer. I suppose c001 d00dz like DJB are too 1337 for casts.
I don't use DJB's code because it's not free. But even if it were, it is written unacceptably poorly.
Um, this is on the server, where Microsoft dosen't have a monopoly, not even a plurality. According to netcraft, that title belongs to Apache.
So what's microsoft's problem?
There are a number of them, as I see it:
Bruce Schneier once called security a "process, not a product". Microsoft has tried to pretend that they are selling a product. That you go to the store, buy Microsoft Foo 2000, pull the disks out of the shrink wrap, and use it like you'd use a television or a vacume cleaner. An Operating System is too complex of a beast for that to be the case, and no amount of Wizards or flying folders is going to change that simple fact.
God am I sucking tonight, that's "definition" and "inconvenience". I think I better quit posting before I make a bigger ass out of myself.
And perhaps go check my temperature.
I posted that as a reply to the wrong comment 8-P. You can tell I was in a hurry because I didn't even grammar check it first.
The real troll is here, and yes, he is a troll, according to the defination.
Actually, I fould your post quite funny, and apologize for the inconvience.
Nah, we don't want to be 14m3 and use the same IP stack that Microsoft uses.
Since owners of GPL'd sofware can release the same software under multiple licenses (as did Larry Wall with Perl), ask to keep ownership, but re-license it to the DoD under a BSD'ish license (or whatever else they want).
That way, it stays GPL for everyone else, but they get to incorporate it into their propietory program and everyone's happy.
How about this: the judge had a magic photocopier than could copy anything perfectly, and everyone went over to your house and photocopied everything you own, leaving the original in your house unharmed.
But you didn't like that, because you have a magic photocopier too. You wanted to photocopy all of your stuff at a cost of $~0.30 to you, and sell the copies at the full retail cost of the originals. Because you believe that don't just own the toaster, you insist that you own the idea of the toaster.
By all accounts, architecture is art, but its main purpose is to keep the rain off of your head. "Functional Art" has existed long before computers, and there isn't any rule that says art has to be useless, or even that that has to be its primary function.
The essence of art is creativity being turned into something palpable, and programming and engineering (or portions of which which involve creativity) are exactly that.
I did the same thing with att@home, and I told them that I'd be running a mail server (I didn't mention the web server, but it uses a hell of a lot less bandwith than my family downloading from napster and "surfing the web" from their Windows ME box.
The thing is, my line still sits idle most of the time. Perhaps a slow constant trickle from the servers, but it is installed in a home setting, and I've never used it to make a dime. So I haven't violated my TOS, nor is it unprofitable for AT&T. About the only times it is saturated is the few times a week with the aforementioned napster, or when I'm doing a ton of stuff with apt.
I'm a bit of a BOFH with the napster thing anyhow, so it's really not that much bandwith ether. Not to mention the fact that I always try to do major stuff with apt late at night so the server's bandwith won't be saturated.
I love it how these companies use the "Whe need huge markups to pay for Research and Development" excuse to plea for patent extensions and their warefare against the generic drug makers.
For an example of how little R&D plays in these companies' cashflow, lets take a look at Pfizer's fourth quarter earnings report.
Firstly, they state many times that they are in a merger and the generally stagnent net is due to "Certain Significant Items and Merger-Related Costs" lest we think that the "Certian significant items" is research related, they state that "we invested $4.4 billion in Research and Development". Wow! that's a lot! more money than I'll ever see. Of course, this is from a company "with 2000 revenues approaching $30 billion"
So, wait a minute, pfitzer is saying that the cost R&D was only 15.7% of their gross income. This means that a generic drug manufactor selling a drug discovered by Pfitzer for 75% (a value that I think is very inflated, I heard a story on NPR a while back that said that the price of a drug can fall to a sixth of its original value after its patent expires) of it's original cost is actually making less profit on the drug after the cost of R&D has been removed from the equation.
It gets worse: Pfitzer stated that their "Full-Year Net Income [is] Up 25 Percent to $6,495 Million. That would be 6.495 Billion. So their net profit is 147% their entire R&D expenditures for 2000. Plus, Pfitzer says "while fully supporting our current products, including Lipitor, which had sales exceeding $5 billion, a Pfizer record.". So one drug had more sales than their entire Research and Development expenditures. I would also like to note that lipitor is a diet drug.
I discovered this information about Pfitzer because it was the first name of a pharmaceutical company that I could remember. I got their earnings report right off of their website, it took less than five minutes. Rather than blindly accepting the prophaganda, why not check out the facts?
These companies make massive amounts of money from their government mandated monopolies as they stand now, far more than it cost to research and and develop the drugs.
Er, since when has a clue been a requirement for a journalist?
My experence has been that a clue was a liability to a jounalist. The whole "Journalistic integrity" thing is a hell of a lot easier when one doesen't have a clue about the topic of their reporting or the consequences of their ill-informed and biased coverage.
Jounalists are most sucessful when they envelope themselves in a cloud of blissful cluelessness.
If Linus could only work on the kernel for a few hours after work, we wouldn't see 2.4 until at least 2002.
That's precisely what he does. He isn't hacking the linux kernel at Transmeta, he's writing i86 emulators for their chips.
Well, why do you think Jon Katz went to see it, anyhow?
<rimshot>
I use talk a great deal, as a Unix utility for communicating with other users on multiuser systems. There really arn't too many other uses for it though. If you're attempting to talk to other people on the net, IRC, or instant messengers are much better than giving everybody a shell account on a box and try to organize it with write.
Talk is completely useless IMHO. It requires a daemon to work (which introduces security issues) and it simply reproduces features of write. For instance, if two people wish to talk, they can just write eachother and then take turns typing (otherwise their words will get jumbled together). The only feature talk has is the possiblility of talking to people on remote computers, which duplicates the functionality of IRC as well as creating an even larger security issue, an open talk port to the internet.
By the way, you forgot to mention wall, a really useful command with which one can communicate with all users. Very useful in administrating multiuser boxes.
Here's one vote for the removal of the tags in the slashdot comments.
I noticed you mentioned The Hacker Crackdown. It is an excellent book that everyone should read. EFF has an online version in numerous formats. I first read it a year or so ago from that site, and I've read it numerous times since. The cops pull the same tatics every single time. It's amazing how many parallels there are between operation Sundown and, say, DeCSS.
I don't thing that would be a problem, one would have to be going fast enough when one hits the atmosphere than continuing into it would make one quite well done when one hit the ground. I think the idea is to provide a ton of drag very early on so that the speeds are low enough that one does not bounce off or burn up upon re-entry.
Heh, I know the feeling. I have frequented the SlashNET network for a few years now and have developed some fairly nice friendships. Recently, the ops of radon.slashnet.org and perdition.slashnet.org decided that it would be great fun to use their IRC Operator status to harass me.
They kickban me from the main channel at random, make the servers reset my connection, set services to automatically kick me, they've even gagged me twice. The second time they would have left it on, but I was able to ssh to another box and log in from it to make it known that I had been gagged. They then removed the gag and tried to pretend that they hadn't done it.
Needless to say, IRC, which is supposed to be a recreational activity, is now a pain. I do not get on to be abused by a couple of assholes who happen to have enough access to somebody else's bandwidth that they can become 1337 s3rv3r 0pz.
If they're trying to get rid of me, they're doing a pretty good job. I'd already be gone if I was any less interested in the other people on that network.
I wonder how many of these attacks on IRC networks are caused by an Op abusing his powers and burning a few bridges with the wrong people.
ipchains -I input 1 -p tcp -s 209.242.124.241 80 -d 0.0.0.0/0 -j REJECT