Unfortunately, Google doesn't have a 'non-racist' flag. I didn't see any graphs marked "nigger" on the page I linked to, and until you produce one, you're a troll. Troll.
You're talking about the bubble period. I'm talking about the time after the bubble when every analyst was jumping up and down about how people were so tight with their money - ignoring the fact that most people's real income was declining. Lower consumption was the result of people's uncertainty about the future.
Believe me, before the bubble imploded, people were most definitely spending money. Not necessarily on very sensible things, but they were spending.
So, you're just going to ignore that your 5% figure was complete bullshit and pretend you never said it. OK, whatever.
BTW, a few years ago economists were screaming that the Japanese economy was doomed because people were saving too much and not spending enough. Funny, that.
Yeah, whatever. Thanks for playing, troll. I was quoting the sources listed on it (Asia Week, Nomura Research, IMF, Japanese government), not the website itself.
Reality is that 0.02% savings interest rate has resulted in close to 95% spending of free income.
I quote your source:
Japan's savings rate topped 20% of household income in the mid-1970s and clocked 14% as recently as the start of the 1990s. It is now no higher than 7%, well below that of France, Germany, and Italy.
I find it difficult to believe that 4-7% of household income is equivalent to 5% of free income.
The state of the economy has little to do with how much or little consumers save, but rather more to do with the large amounts of bad debts left over from the bubble period and the ongoing lack of reasonable return on investment for institutional investors.
BTW, since you haven't introduced any verifiable figures whatsoever, I'd say that your posts have been rather more 'anecdotal' than mine.
Don't know what university your friend went to, but at mine the appliances were generally perfectly usable. Not only appliances - there was quite a bit of furniture around as well (not so much now that they charge for disposal of large items).
The disposal guys won't take it. You have to pay them to take away large items, and they'll quite happily leave behind anything that hasn't been paid for.
You do already pay to have them haul away a PC (at least, in certain parts of the country) - there's a charge for disposal of large household appliances, which includes PCs.
It's actually less this new recycling fee, but since the fee will be included in the price, I'm sure most people would rather have the manufacturer (who has already been paid) take it away, rather than pay again to throw it away themselves.
There are a lot of problems with the economy in Japan, not the least of which is that there is simply no savings. Every sen that is earned is almost immediately spent, and even at that rate of consumption the economy is maxed out with no room to grow.
Doesn't sound so great to me. A lot of things that come in the mail are sent that way *because* they have to reach you physically - a new credit card, etc.
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...where we call caching proxies "censors".
"Back in '97"?
Can we limit these nostalgia discussions to people who started using computers before the word "Windows" became synonymous with them?
Don't bet on a horse named "Balls Up" with your bus money.
Of course he is, considering some of the products listed on the impress.co.jp site were limited releases in Akihabara.
I still have yet to see any evidence. Until then, you're a troll, Patrick Draper.
(And I was here before there were any UIDs.)
Yeah, at least the Devil only tries to take your soul after you're dead.
Yeah, whatever.
You're not PlatinumDragon on #/., by any chance?
Unfortunately, Google doesn't have a 'non-racist' flag. I didn't see any graphs marked "nigger" on the page I linked to, and until you produce one, you're a troll. Troll.
You're talking about the bubble period. I'm talking about the time after the bubble when every analyst was jumping up and down about how people were so tight with their money - ignoring the fact that most people's real income was declining. Lower consumption was the result of people's uncertainty about the future.
Believe me, before the bubble imploded, people were most definitely spending money. Not necessarily on very sensible things, but they were spending.
So, you're just going to ignore that your 5% figure was complete bullshit and pretend you never said it. OK, whatever.
BTW, a few years ago economists were screaming that the Japanese economy was doomed because people were saving too much and not spending enough. Funny, that.
Yeah, whatever. Thanks for playing, troll. I was quoting the sources listed on it (Asia Week, Nomura Research, IMF, Japanese government), not the website itself.
I quote you:
Reality is that 0.02% savings interest rate has resulted in close to 95% spending of free income.
I quote your source:
Japan's savings rate topped 20% of household income in the mid-1970s and clocked 14% as recently as the start of the 1990s. It is now no higher than 7%, well below that of France, Germany, and Italy.
I find it difficult to believe that 4-7% of household income is equivalent to 5% of free income.
In case you hadn't noticed, high school girls do not make up a majority of the female population of Japan.
Sure, some 16-year-olds on the train have a hygiene problem, but it's nothing compared to BO in the States or Europe.
The state of the economy has little to do with how much or little consumers save, but rather more to do with the large amounts of bad debts left over from the bubble period and the ongoing lack of reasonable return on investment for institutional investors.
BTW, since you haven't introduced any verifiable figures whatsoever, I'd say that your posts have been rather more 'anecdotal' than mine.
Hardly. Most women bathe twice a day (once to wash their hair in the morning, once to relax in the evening).
I'll rely on actually living here and knowing how much people here like stashing cash away for a rainy day, k thnx bye.
Don't know what university your friend went to, but at mine the appliances were generally perfectly usable. Not only appliances - there was quite a bit of furniture around as well (not so much now that they charge for disposal of large items).
Dedicated word processors stayed around a lot longer in Japan than in other countries - it's still (barely) possible to buy a new one.
The cats would be eaten before they had a chance to be a problem.
Wrong country, genius.
The disposal guys won't take it. You have to pay them to take away large items, and they'll quite happily leave behind anything that hasn't been paid for.
You do already pay to have them haul away a PC (at least, in certain parts of the country) - there's a charge for disposal of large household appliances, which includes PCs.
It's actually less this new recycling fee, but since the fee will be included in the price, I'm sure most people would rather have the manufacturer (who has already been paid) take it away, rather than pay again to throw it away themselves.
There are a lot of problems with the economy in Japan, not the least of which is that there is simply no savings. Every sen that is earned is almost immediately spent, and even at that rate of consumption the economy is maxed out with no room to grow.
Sorry, what did you just say? This is the same Japan that has a gross savings rate of over 25%?
I call bullshit.
PDF995 takes the pain out of making PDFs for free on Windows.
You seem to be using a new definition of free with which I am not familiar...
As I recall, there's a site somewhere that has transcripts of a phonesex session conducted via this service... fun was had by all.
Doesn't sound so great to me. A lot of things that come in the mail are sent that way *because* they have to reach you physically - a new credit card, etc.