No. The GPL does NOT spread to whatever it touches. One of the big points of the GPL is to say that if you CHOOSE to include code that OTHER PEOPLE have written, and out of the goodness of their hearts have given to you FOR FREE, you must then respect the original intention of the author and release your code for free. The so-called viral propreties of the GPL are easily cured - DON'T USE FUCKING GPL'd CODE IN YOUR SOFTWARE IF YOU DON'T INTEND TO RELEASE IT FOR FREE!!!!!!!!!! Is everyone suddenly retarded here? You can use GPL'd code any way you see fit if you don't intend to release it. The whole virus analogy is inherently flawed.
If I choose to dig my garden with a teaspoon, that is my right. If I choose to run a removal firm out of a Mini, that is just as much my right. Why, therefore, should it be legal for a software company to prohibit me using something for a purpose they did not intend and do not believe it suitable for? If I'm happy with it, I should be able to.
It shouldn't be legal for them to prevent you from doing what you will with their software. It is because we have a bunch of whores (read: politicians) who swear to defend the Constitution but are only interested in bribery. They are truly the ones at fault here. Anybody who voted for the DMCA is your enemy.
You have obviously never used a digital camera, a DV camera, or audio gear with OS X. I have yet to run into a 'consumer' grade digicam that I can't just plug into my mac, and let iPhoto take care of the rest. Windows requires drivers for most digicams, and even if you get a good driver, the photo management software suxorz for a good many reasons.
I'm sorry, but I just got a Mac a little over a year ago, and I couldn't be happier. I still love FreeBSD and tolerate various flavors of Windows, but my true home is now OS X.
One of my best friends older brothers created a hybrid ruleset based heavily off of GURPS, Top Secret, and other games into a modern espionage game that we dubbed the "BMRPG" or the Bruce Moreira Role Playing Game. We had all kinds of fun, and it was all because of a creative and dedicated GM.
I have been waiting for them to make available an OpenGL unlimited table size, turn based WH40K clone with the REAL (circa 1990) rules, or at the very least customizable rule sets. Make it perfect. Charge $20 per month - cheaper than paint / miniatures / rule upgrades / gas / etc and have internet competition. Upgrade from having sculptors creating the models to having 3D artists doing that work. Export the 3D models and CAM takes care of making the miniature molds. Reinvent the business to be cutting-edge, like GW used to be 15 years ago. As both a M:TG and WH40K player, I feel gypped by all the needless tacked-on shit that these formerly-great companies produce now.
Oh! Time to dance and be gay! Put up the maypole, string the trees with ribbons and let forth 1000 white doves! Distribute goats and oxen roasted with peppercorns and bacon to the masses! May the honeyed mead and pitchers of pure Cartesian well water flow forth upon the plain, for SCO has sent a message down from their floating castle / corporate headquarters. They are going to honor you with Linux for your computer, for only $999! May you all mark this day as the happiest one ever. I am going to get a commemorative tattoo!
Fucking SCO makes me puke.
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Computers are here to make the lives of their users easier. There is absolutely no good cause for a computer to be designed in a way to be deliberately difficult to use. Nor for it to be designed in a way that happens to be difficult to use if it can be more approachable without impairing function.
Computers are actually here to accomplish a myriad of tasks, not just to make users lives easier. I don't think that the shell was created to be deliberately easy to use. And, I think that GUI-ifying the shell would impair function.
How did you decide that I was against usability? I am just saying that tacking a bunch of shit onto the shell until it becomes like the Finder (only more confusing) is a pointless endeavor - we ALREADY have the Finder.
And if you don't like feature creep, I suggest you abandon shells altogether. Real men toggle switches on the front panel, you asshole. Actual alphanumerics are a luxury.
Nice attempt at levity, prick.
I really don't see much point in a complete shell -- at best it's a last resort option when there's not enough bandwidth available for a remote GUI.
Are you retarded? Yeah, every time I fire up a Terminal, I think to myself "Well, this is it. The last resort." - Wait! No, I don't! The GUI can be superior for certain tasks - taking the redeye off the picture of Grandma or video editing. But when it comes down to renaming 10000 files from all caps into small caps, the gui falls flat on its ass.
Unlike the abyssmal help provided in most shells -- such as the awful, awful man pages
If you con't read a manual page now, why do you think that making it clickable would suddenly expand your obviously small attention span?
And output would typically be through the GUI.
Breaking the pipe forever.
As for the mouse, so what? Mice are here to stay, at least until a better pointing device comes along. And if you're such a bonehead that you insist on not using a mouse, I'm sure that keyboard shortcuts can be implemented.
The mouse almost worthless in the shell. It works for selecting / pasting text. Unless there is a bunch of text to copy, or it is uniquely formatted, it doesn't get touched.
Why even bother with the CLI? Why not just drop files onto icons like you already do?
It seems that your main complaints are 1) You can't seem to be motivated to read the manual. 2) You want to click on your help (again assuming that you can find the/bin directory) 3) You can't seem to find any legitimate use for the CLI except as a GUI replacement.
Most files on unix are plain text or binary. Many binary files lack magic numbers. Most text files lack it too.
File formats created recently often lack magic numbers, as do formats created by a vendor and not standardized and documented.
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In fact it still boggles the mind that you cannot do a click on a command in a shell to get a menu or dialog of options for it, clearly explained, or contextual help, or anything.
Huh? The shell is there for you to use if you know what it is, and how to use it. It would be a neat hack to be able to click on a command*, but it probably wouldn't end there. I really can't stand feature creep, except in KDE. Not only would this lead to other features, but might encourage bad habits. Instead of using whatis, apropos, and man to find out about a file, you will be dependant on using the mouse.
The rest could be done with a local "applications" folder which is just soft links to normal executables.
* - What the hell? You are assuming that one would know to type ls/usr/bin and then use scrollback, (and click on something probably not even on the screen, as far as the tty cares) but wouldn't be able to to a simple apropos partition man fdisk
The correct way in Unix of including file-type metadata is to include a 'magic number' at the beginning of the file. Unfortunately, few programs create datafiles with this magic number, and few programs recognize it.
Huh? That only applies to the small G4. My old TiG4 666 DVI will smoke any iBook around. Besides, 1024x768? Bleargh! They need to up the reso to something like 1152 x 854.
Also, I doubt that your iBook is faster simply because of the cache issue. You also lack the vector unit. When encoding MP3's, watching DIVX movies, playing Quake3, listening to iTunes, or using many many applications including the Finder and Photoshop, for two, you are lacking the vector unit. Again, my old 666 could beat any iBook ever made at these tasks. Many parts of the OS itself have been, or are becoming, vectorized themselves so with each subsequent release of OS X I can expect to see a noticeable speed increase just like I got from 10.1 to 10.2. A speed increase that iBook owners will likely not be taking advantage of.
It is conceivable that eyeglasses could be made, ala- Tom Cruise era Mission Impossible. They wouldn't be the greatest, but you could record what the eyeglass-wearer sees.
Form the Geek Union. This one won't be administered by the Mafia, though. Imagine how scared shitless authority would be if over 600,000 geeks threatened a general strike. We could wield more power than every lobby group in Congre$$ if we chose to.
Here in Oregon, you just have to apply to the Sheriff and pay the fee. The sheriff will check your record out, and if you are clean of violent crime you'll usually get the permit. If you can't acquire the permit, the sheriff has to tell you why and is held to a set of standards here. He can't deny you because he doesn't like you.
How many gun murders do you have in Mich. each year, and how many in Oregon again? How about just per capita then?
Some idiots think that everyone who writes Free software has an obligation to do anything at all. These are the poeple who also whine about shit all day like the fact that Enlightenment hasn't seen an update in a while, Mozilla's broken, blah blah blah all day long.
Hey, dipshits of the world: If you don't like the state of Linux / RPM / &c just FIX IT BITCH! The code is there for the fixing!
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Basically by clicking that you are voting with dollars in favor of software patents.
AlBook, Please.
The Webbys are about the dumbest thing I have ever heard of anyway. I unfortunately caught about 15 minutes of 'em last year and my brain still hurts.
It must be nice to work in the late 1980's!
No. The GPL does NOT spread to whatever it touches. One of the big points of the GPL is to say that if you CHOOSE to include code that OTHER PEOPLE have written, and out of the goodness of their hearts have given to you FOR FREE, you must then respect the original intention of the author and release your code for free. The so-called viral propreties of the GPL are easily cured - DON'T USE FUCKING GPL'd CODE IN YOUR SOFTWARE IF YOU DON'T INTEND TO RELEASE IT FOR FREE!!!!!!!!!! Is everyone suddenly retarded here? You can use GPL'd code any way you see fit if you don't intend to release it. The whole virus analogy is inherently flawed.
If I choose to dig my garden with a teaspoon, that is my right. If I choose to run a removal firm out of a Mini, that is just as much my right. Why, therefore, should it be legal for a software company to prohibit me using something for a purpose they did not intend and do not believe it suitable for? If I'm happy with it, I should be able to.
It shouldn't be legal for them to prevent you from doing what you will with their software. It is because we have a bunch of whores (read: politicians) who swear to defend the Constitution but are only interested in bribery. They are truly the ones at fault here. Anybody who voted for the DMCA is your enemy.
You have obviously never used a digital camera, a DV camera, or audio gear with OS X. I have yet to run into a 'consumer' grade digicam that I can't just plug into my mac, and let iPhoto take care of the rest. Windows requires drivers for most digicams, and even if you get a good driver, the photo management software suxorz for a good many reasons.
I'm sorry, but I just got a Mac a little over a year ago, and I couldn't be happier. I still love FreeBSD and tolerate various flavors of Windows, but my true home is now OS X.
Dude! You're getting a dull computer!
One of my best friends older brothers created a hybrid ruleset based heavily off of GURPS, Top Secret, and other games into a modern espionage game that we dubbed the "BMRPG" or the Bruce Moreira Role Playing Game. We had all kinds of fun, and it was all because of a creative and dedicated GM.
I have been waiting for them to make available an OpenGL unlimited table size, turn based WH40K clone with the REAL (circa 1990) rules, or at the very least customizable rule sets. Make it perfect. Charge $20 per month - cheaper than paint / miniatures / rule upgrades / gas / etc and have internet competition. Upgrade from having sculptors creating the models to having 3D artists doing that work. Export the 3D models and CAM takes care of making the miniature molds. Reinvent the business to be cutting-edge, like GW used to be 15 years ago. As both a M:TG and WH40K player, I feel gypped by all the needless tacked-on shit that these formerly-great companies produce now.
Well, at least there's always Talisman.
In the United States if you demand that a retailer sell something at a certain price, or you try to force the issue, you can go to jail.
But you won't. This sort of problem is usually handled by a slap on the wrist, if at all.
Oh! Time to dance and be gay! Put up the maypole, string the trees with ribbons and let forth 1000 white doves! Distribute goats and oxen roasted with peppercorns and bacon to the masses! May the honeyed mead and pitchers of pure Cartesian well water flow forth upon the plain, for SCO has sent a message down from their floating castle / corporate headquarters. They are going to honor you with Linux for your computer, for only $999! May you all mark this day as the happiest one ever. I am going to get a commemorative tattoo!
Fucking SCO makes me puke.
Computers are here to make the lives of their users easier. There is absolutely no good cause for a computer to be designed in a way to be deliberately difficult to use. Nor for it to be designed in a way that happens to be difficult to use if it can be more approachable without impairing function.
/bin directory)
Computers are actually here to accomplish a myriad of tasks, not just to make users lives easier. I don't think that the shell was created to be deliberately easy to use. And, I think that GUI-ifying the shell would impair function.
How did you decide that I was against usability? I am just saying that tacking a bunch of shit onto the shell until it becomes like the Finder (only more confusing) is a pointless endeavor - we ALREADY have the Finder.
And if you don't like feature creep, I suggest you abandon shells altogether. Real men toggle switches on the front panel, you asshole. Actual alphanumerics are a luxury.
Nice attempt at levity, prick.
I really don't see much point in a complete shell -- at best it's a last resort option when there's not enough bandwidth available for a remote GUI.
Are you retarded? Yeah, every time I fire up a Terminal, I think to myself "Well, this is it. The last resort." - Wait! No, I don't! The GUI can be superior for certain tasks - taking the redeye off the picture of Grandma or video editing. But when it comes down to renaming 10000 files from all caps into small caps, the gui falls flat on its ass.
Unlike the abyssmal help provided in most shells -- such as the awful, awful man pages
If you con't read a manual page now, why do you think that making it clickable would suddenly expand your obviously small attention span?
And output would typically be through the GUI.
Breaking the pipe forever.
As for the mouse, so what? Mice are here to stay, at least until a better pointing device comes along. And if you're such a bonehead that you insist on not using a mouse, I'm sure that keyboard shortcuts can be implemented.
The mouse almost worthless in the shell. It works for selecting / pasting text. Unless there is a bunch of text to copy, or it is uniquely formatted, it doesn't get touched.
Why even bother with the CLI? Why not just drop files onto icons like you already do?
It seems that your main complaints are
1) You can't seem to be motivated to read the manual.
2) You want to click on your help (again assuming that you can find the
3) You can't seem to find any legitimate use for the CLI except as a GUI replacement.
Most files on unix are plain text or binary. Many binary files lack magic numbers. Most text files lack it too.
File formats created recently often lack magic numbers, as do formats created by a vendor and not standardized and documented.
In fact it still boggles the mind that you cannot do a click on a command in a shell to get a menu or dialog of options for it, clearly explained, or contextual help, or anything.
/usr/bin
Huh? The shell is there for you to use if you know what it is, and how to use it. It would be a neat hack to be able to click on a command*, but it probably wouldn't end there. I really can't stand feature creep, except in KDE. Not only would this lead to other features, but might encourage bad habits. Instead of using whatis, apropos, and man to find out about a file, you will be dependant on using the mouse.
The rest could be done with a local "applications" folder which is just soft links to normal executables.
* - What the hell? You are assuming that one would know to type
ls
and then use scrollback, (and click on something probably not even on the screen, as far as the tty cares) but wouldn't be able to to a simple
apropos partition
man fdisk
I have always thought that labels are extraneous. What do they do that a different Icon can't do, even in 9?
Maybe you should try column view. The column to the left of the 'active' one will have the current folder highlighted.
The correct way in Unix of including file-type metadata is to include a 'magic number' at the beginning of the file. Unfortunately, few programs create datafiles with this magic number, and few programs recognize it.
Huh?
That only applies to the small G4. My old TiG4 666 DVI will smoke any iBook around. Besides, 1024x768? Bleargh! They need to up the reso to something like 1152 x 854.
Also, I doubt that your iBook is faster simply because of the cache issue. You also lack the vector unit. When encoding MP3's, watching DIVX movies, playing Quake3, listening to iTunes, or using many many applications including the Finder and Photoshop, for two, you are lacking the vector unit. Again, my old 666 could beat any iBook ever made at these tasks. Many parts of the OS itself have been, or are becoming, vectorized themselves so with each subsequent release of OS X I can expect to see a noticeable speed increase just like I got from 10.1 to 10.2. A speed increase that iBook owners will likely not be taking advantage of.
It is conceivable that eyeglasses could be made, ala- Tom Cruise era Mission Impossible. They wouldn't be the greatest, but you could record what the eyeglass-wearer sees.
I would only go back to Vermont if I had an elite team of Ninjas with me.
My TiG4 DVI 666's screen is very tight. I can play Quake 3 and never see ghosting. Unlike the Gateway OR Dull until very recently.
Yes, it's great for Lan parties. I can play without roasting my nuts off.
Form the Geek Union. This one won't be administered by the Mafia, though. Imagine how scared shitless authority would be if over 600,000 geeks threatened a general strike. We could wield more power than every lobby group in Congre$$ if we chose to.
Here in Oregon, you just have to apply to the Sheriff and pay the fee. The sheriff will check your record out, and if you are clean of violent crime you'll usually get the permit. If you can't acquire the permit, the sheriff has to tell you why and is held to a set of standards here. He can't deny you because he doesn't like you.
How many gun murders do you have in Mich. each year, and how many in Oregon again? How about just per capita then?
Some idiots think that everyone who writes Free software has an obligation to do anything at all. These are the poeple who also whine about shit all day like the fact that Enlightenment hasn't seen an update in a while, Mozilla's broken, blah blah blah all day long.
Hey, dipshits of the world: If you don't like the state of Linux / RPM / &c just FIX IT BITCH! The code is there for the fixing!