Actually I see little difference between the pack of pirates that steal from the RIAA and all those counterfeiters in China who are making knockoffs of Windows, batteries, bags, and whatever else literally or otherwise floats your boat...
Same difference, lost sales.
Piracy isn't made better just because the RIAA is the victim.
It's just that the RIAA has little room to bitch about it when it has skeletons of its own in its closets. The pirate bones aren't any less wrong, just less important.
"I am most interested in seeing these funds secured in investments in your country. For your assistance, I offer you *25% of the total, or one thousand dollars.*"
Um, 25% of 400K != 1K
Pray tell, have you outsourced your accounting as well as your scamming? You sure picked a hell of a beancounter.
What's to stop the FBI from issuing one of those so-called "national security letters"?
Here, it's illegal to even move to stop, because the fact that you were issued a NSL is itself classified, so you can't even go whining to a judge about the big bad feds without getting locked up.
Or how about these responses to the "no warrant, no wiretap":
"No wiretap, you go to jail for obstruction." "No wiretap, you're a terrorist and I detain you as long as I damn well please."
We can all praise the constitution all we like, but as long as we've got federal agents who CAN ARREST YOU AND MAKE YOU VANISH IN THE BLINK OF AN EYE, it will take lots more than a silly piece of paper to stop them...especially if even the most anti-government federal judge doesn't even find out about it until you've already incriminated yourself. Which is likely if you are detained as a terrorist and denied access to the legal system.
Point of fact, many federal agencies have internal "arbitration courts" that the main justice system has held does serve as a lower level court. So anything the "administrative hearing" says has just as much force of law as if it was a federal court. The FTC for example does this all the time, and it wins 97 percent of the cases it brings in its "own court". So unless you bite the bullet and move for a change of venue on account of bias (which will piss off the ALJ so bad you'll probably get charged with contempt), any bias cannot be appealed because it was not brought up in the hearing itself.
The constitution is great, but it means nothing in practice. If the govermnent really wants to be bad, nothing can stop it.
"It has a 1.5 Ghz VIA C7 CPU embedded in a Mini-ITX motherboard, 512MB of RAM and an 80GB hard drive. Normally, this would simply mark it as unacceptably low-end for use with modern software. By using the fast Enlightenment desktop manager (instead of heavier-duty alternatives like Gnome or KDE), the makers say it's more responsive than Vista is, even on more powerful computers
Wow, talk about relativity. That "unacceptably low-end" for most people would be a gem for me!
Mine's an AMD Athlon (== PII), 256MB RAM, 20GB hard drive, and I think it's great...
"Yet, the current patent system dies exactly this. The abuses that are possible under the current system allow for someone to develop a product and later, through the monopoly granted under the patent system, effectively have that intellectual property taken away."
Um, shouldn't that like count as "prior art" or something?
No, of course not. The court wants your evidence and it wants it now, or else you lose even if you are right. Worse yet, you don't even get to appeal, even if someone else ruined your case. The legal system is swamped...and worse yet I wouldn't put it past a megacorp (like microsoft for instance) to bribe a judge or jury.
"RIAA attorneys have been getting away with a lot of questionable proceedings (and outright lying to the court, any court) and I'm hoping maybe the judiciary is finally catching on. That's the only way we'll put a stop to this."
I'll say it again: Why are judges even letting the RIAA get away with lying in court?
To hell with mere common sense, the judicial system needs to grow a damn backbone and go after the RIAA hard for FELONY PERJURY.
Just look at Arther Andersen...it got slapped SILLY for shredding Enron financials. Soon after getting banned from auditing, it went bankrupt.
At a minimum, I would like to see the RIAA get the CRAP fined out of it.
No company should get away with criminal conduct...not even the RIAA.
Actually, in this case if they ever collar you for hacking into the system, you YOURSELF could wind up with a needle in your arm.
If making such a bogus police report is a felony, then it is entirely foreseeable that someone could wound up getting shot over the cops being told some dangerous madman was going on a rampage.
And, when you have a felony with the foreseeable consequence of death, and said death occurs, you are now guilty of: Felony Murder.
Even if you don't get collared for felony murder, here's something else to worry about:
You are using the cops as a murder weapon just as effectively as if you had pulled the trigger yourself.
I find it amusing that you are telling someone off for being a grammar nazi when you yourself are trolling by cursing at another poster.
If nothing else, you could have used milder language.
In fact, it is itself a federal offense to aid or abet the comission of a federal offense, and that includes turning a blind eye after you see it.
So, as long as AT&T looks the other way, they can let it go. But the minute someone at AT&T knows you're distributing kiddie porn, technically, they are now ON NOTICE that you are using their services to perpetuate a federal offense, which in turn puts THEM on the hook for aiding & abetting if they don't shut you down.
Turning a blind eye only works if you haven't seen it yet.
Of course, PROVING it is something else...but that's for another day.
I think that the defendant should be prosecuted for perjury and thrown in jail regardless of the fact of whether or not said defendant is actually guilty/liable for copyright infringement.
HOWEVER, I think that the RIAA should ALSO be prosecuted for perjury wrt. a previous case it was in regarding AOL or something? I made a previous post on another issue on/. about it, and I stand by it still.
I'm definitely not pro RIAA in any sense. But letting someone, corporation/individual/partnership/WHATEVER get away even a little bit with lying in court opens a GIANT can of worms that will let the roaches REALLY come out. Without some sort of incentive to be required to tell the truth, who would be afraid of lying? Certainly not the RIAA or any other "bad guy/oppressor" types.
The courts would be FILLED with greedy companies looking to cash in on getting away with perjury/evidence cooking.
The justice system needs to crack down on such frauds. Sooner, rather than later. If some otherwise "hapless victim of a greedy company" gets caught lying, no mercy should be shown, because otherwise one of the bad guys would be, quite literally, happy to follow suit. If I were a DA, I'd be more apt to go after big companies first, but I definitely wouldn't turn a blind eye to "lie fry" either.
Just imagine if MICROSOFT were to get away with it next...
cat/dev/random > secret_encrypted_file.NOT
Enough people do this and you will have tied up the courts with, what's the word, oh right. RED HERRINGS
Sorry, I'm still tyring to figure out how to RELIABLY do line breaks in slashdot...it's a tossu pfor me at ths point.
cat/dev/random > secret_encrypted_file.NOT
Enough people do this and you will have tied up the courts with, what's the word, oh right.
RED HERRINGS.
If anyone would be interested, it certainly wouldn't be the NSA.
Maybe NASA?
That's right...any messages come out of the random device, it's gotta be from ALIENS!...wait, hold the phone...that would only get MORE government involved...never mind:P
THe halting problem involves metalanguage in a sense. THe real program running ath the top level that analyzes itself, is root. THe program being analyzed is described, thus the root program is the "metaprogram".
THey invented teh term "metalanguage" to get aroudn this exact fallacy.
Now, assuming that turing's program can detect, with absolute certainty, whether or not a certain program would halt or not, it would, by necessity, need to be aware of its own decision on whether or not to terminate, and THAT is I/O dependant.
For a program to correctly predict anything, it needs to be AWARE of all the factors, INCLUDING those of the human running it, or the environment. Heck, the program could even "halt" if the CPU were to melt, and a perfect turing's program would certainly need to factor that in as well.
At any rate, turing's program would at least be able to determine that whether or not turing's program halts or not would depend on the data it was given, which would be properly flagged as "external/unknown". For it to go any further, it would need to be psychic. Perhaps a computer prophet could be of help here. Mosesola anyone?
The bottom line is that there is more to the halting problem than a paradox. There are simply too many variables that cannot be determined.
For starters, it's not exactly obvious. The existence of multiple companies looks like beneficial competition.
Plus, all the dollars they funnel into lobbying (and perhaps even bribes) is pretty much going to guarantee that the laws WONT change.
Americans are consumers first and foremost. So lnog as they'd rather suffer under an unfair service agreement rather than stand on their feet and be willing to suffer the risk of not having service at all.
It's the prisoner's dilemma. If only one person fights back, he gets screwed over, and everyone else gets rewarded. If there's going to be any fighting back, there needs to be cooperation.
Actually, the act is the only thing that is illegal. Making something a "hate crime" merely makes the hatred an aggravating factor in the crime itself, sorta like one could go from murder to capital murder if the victim is a cop, for instance. Hatred isn't a crime iteslf, merely an aggravating factor. At least that's what I *think* the legalese for it is...
Without the anchor of the criminal act itself, such hatred is, at worst, slander or libel of sorts.
I could say "fags should die", and nobody can lay a finger on me because what I'm exercising is free speech. If I kill a homosexual, I'm guilty of murder. If however, the two are COMBINED, what would otherwise be "free speech" becomes an aggravating factor in the murder, and is considered a "hate crime *enhancement*". It is an enhancement because saying "fags should die" (or most anything else for that matter) is not itself a crime.
Each downstream release of a GPL product is itself a derived work.
Even if Microsoft were to get proprietary license for one release, any copies that had already been released by said author to others up to that point are still GPL, because of the "automatic downstream license" clause.
Besides, nothing microsoft does can affect any "upstream" GPL stuff, owing to a lack of privity of contract. For that to work, microsoft would need to get an exclusive license from EVERY author who worked on it upstream, including the original author, who could, quite reasonably, be a thousand steps up.
Not to mention that the "third party licensing" of sources would practically cause a quantum explosion of preexisting licensees each with GPL rights to what they received...who would later be copyright holders themselves if they modified and distributed GPL style.
"This is the same case in which the RIAA had sent a letter to the Judge falsely indicating that AOL had 'confirmed that defendant owned an internet access account through which copyrighted sound recordings were downloaded and distributed'."
Hmm...I wonder if anyone's got the guts to go after the RIAA for perjury...
Not just that...it actually it deals with quantum physics and how a photon that is vertically aligned has a 50 percent chance of being either "/" or "\" and getting misinterpreted.
Only someone who knows which way it was polarized can correctly decode it.
This combination of 1's and 0's is used to generate a 1 time pad.
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To put it simply, it's the same thing as someone jacking their crap into your outlets and running up your electric bill.
Actually I see little difference between the pack of pirates that steal from the RIAA and all those counterfeiters in China who are making knockoffs of Windows, batteries, bags, and whatever else literally or otherwise floats your boat...
Same difference, lost sales.
Piracy isn't made better just because the RIAA is the victim.
It's just that the RIAA has little room to bitch about it when it has skeletons of its own in its closets. The pirate bones aren't any less wrong, just less important.
"I am most interested in seeing these funds secured in investments in your country. For your assistance, I offer you *25% of the total, or one thousand dollars.*" Um, 25% of 400K != 1K Pray tell, have you outsourced your accounting as well as your scamming? You sure picked a hell of a beancounter.
What's to stop the FBI from issuing one of those so-called "national security letters"?
Here, it's illegal to even move to stop, because the fact that you were issued a NSL is itself classified, so you can't even go whining to a judge about the big bad feds without getting locked up.
Or how about these responses to the "no warrant, no wiretap":
"No wiretap, you go to jail for obstruction."
"No wiretap, you're a terrorist and I detain you as long as I damn well please."
We can all praise the constitution all we like, but as long as we've got federal agents who CAN ARREST YOU AND MAKE YOU VANISH IN THE BLINK OF AN EYE, it will take lots more than a silly piece of paper to stop them...especially if even the most anti-government federal judge doesn't even find out about it until you've already incriminated yourself. Which is likely if you are detained as a terrorist and denied access to the legal system.
Point of fact, many federal agencies have internal "arbitration courts" that the main justice system has held does serve as a lower level court. So anything the "administrative hearing" says has just as much force of law as if it was a federal court. The FTC for example does this all the time, and it wins 97 percent of the cases it brings in its "own court". So unless you bite the bullet and move for a change of venue on account of bias (which will piss off the ALJ so bad you'll probably get charged with contempt), any bias cannot be appealed because it was not brought up in the hearing itself.
The constitution is great, but it means nothing in practice. If the govermnent really wants to be bad, nothing can stop it.
This is the first time I've heard of a DDoS attack using the legal system instead of the internet...
"It has a 1.5 Ghz VIA C7 CPU embedded in a Mini-ITX motherboard, 512MB of RAM and an 80GB hard drive. Normally, this would simply mark it as unacceptably low-end for use with modern software. By using the fast Enlightenment desktop manager (instead of heavier-duty alternatives like Gnome or KDE), the makers say it's more responsive than Vista is, even on more powerful computers
Wow, talk about relativity. That "unacceptably low-end" for most people would be a gem for me!
Mine's an AMD Athlon (== PII), 256MB RAM, 20GB hard drive, and I think it's great...
POS? Yeah, sure, but not for me!
"Yet, the current patent system dies exactly this. The abuses that are possible under the current system allow for someone to develop a product and later, through the monopoly
granted under the patent system, effectively have that intellectual property taken away."
Um, shouldn't that like count as "prior art" or something?
No, of course not. The court wants your evidence and it wants it now, or else you lose even if you are right. Worse yet, you don't even get to appeal, even if someone else ruined your case. The legal system is swamped...and worse yet I wouldn't put it past a megacorp (like microsoft for instance) to bribe a judge or jury.
"RIAA attorneys have been getting away with a lot of questionable proceedings (and outright lying to the court, any court) and I'm hoping maybe the judiciary is finally catching on. That's the only way we'll put a stop to this."
I'll say it again: Why are judges even letting the RIAA get away with lying in court?
To hell with mere common sense, the judicial system needs to grow a damn backbone and go after the RIAA hard for FELONY PERJURY.
Just look at Arther Andersen...it got slapped SILLY for shredding Enron financials. Soon after getting banned from auditing, it went bankrupt.
At a minimum, I would like to see the RIAA get the CRAP fined out of it.
No company should get away with criminal conduct...not even the RIAA.
No, it would be more like 71.5
Going half way around the world only takes 1/2 of 1/7, or 1/14th.
Actually, in this case if they ever collar you for hacking into the system, you YOURSELF could wind up with a needle in your arm.
If making such a bogus police report is a felony, then it is entirely foreseeable that someone could wound up getting shot over the cops being told some dangerous madman was going on a rampage.
And, when you have a felony with the foreseeable consequence of death, and said death occurs, you are now guilty of: Felony Murder.
Even if you don't get collared for felony murder, here's something else to worry about:
You are using the cops as a murder weapon just as effectively as if you had pulled the trigger yourself.
One thing's for sure, doing this is risky.
"Darl McBride and the top executives have probably managed to funnel money out of the company by selling stock" ...Why does this remind me of Enron?
Probably didn't want the hassle of dealing with the ostensibly corrupt legal system.
Or maybe it would have just been bad publicity to even be involved in a lawsuit.
If ACDC were to actually sue to get it back, it is questionable whether they would have succeeded.
Perhaps greenmail was cheaper than gavelmail.
I find it amusing that you are telling someone off for being a grammar nazi when you yourself are trolling by cursing at another poster. If nothing else, you could have used milder language.
Um, not quite...at least not in the USA
Kiddie porn is a federal offense. PERIOD.
In fact, it is itself a federal offense to aid or abet the comission of a federal offense, and that includes turning a blind eye after you see it.
So, as long as AT&T looks the other way, they can let it go. But the minute someone at AT&T knows you're distributing kiddie porn, technically, they are now ON NOTICE that you are using their services to perpetuate a federal offense, which in turn puts THEM on the hook for aiding & abetting if they don't shut you down.
Turning a blind eye only works if you haven't seen it yet.
Of course, PROVING it is something else...but that's for another day.
Unless it comes with astral authentication I'm not buying it. Too easy for a rogue ghost to impersonate the almighty. Do ghosts even have PGP keys?
I think that the defendant should be prosecuted for perjury and thrown in jail regardless of the fact of whether or not said defendant is actually guilty/liable for copyright infringement.
/. about it, and I stand by it still.
HOWEVER, I think that the RIAA should ALSO be prosecuted for perjury wrt. a previous case it was in regarding AOL or something? I made a previous post on another issue on
I'm definitely not pro RIAA in any sense. But letting someone, corporation/individual/partnership/WHATEVER get away even a little bit with lying in court opens a GIANT can of worms that will let the roaches REALLY come out. Without some sort of incentive to be required to tell the truth, who would be afraid of lying? Certainly not the RIAA or any other "bad guy/oppressor" types.
The courts would be FILLED with greedy companies looking to cash in on getting away with perjury/evidence cooking.
The justice system needs to crack down on such frauds. Sooner, rather than later. If some otherwise "hapless victim of a greedy company" gets caught lying, no mercy should be shown, because otherwise one of the bad guys would be, quite literally, happy to follow suit. If I were a DA, I'd be more apt to go after big companies first, but I definitely wouldn't turn a blind eye to "lie fry" either.
Just imagine if MICROSOFT were to get away with it next...
cat /dev/random > secret_encrypted_file.NOT
Enough people do this and you will have tied up the courts with, what's the word, oh right. RED HERRINGS
Sorry, I'm still tyring to figure out how to RELIABLY do line breaks in slashdot...it's a tossu pfor me at ths point.
cat /dev/random > secret_encrypted_file.NOT
Enough people do this and you will have tied up the courts with, what's the word, oh right.
RED HERRINGS.
If anyone would be interested, it certainly wouldn't be the NSA.
Maybe NASA?
That's right...any messages come out of the random device, it's gotta be from ALIENS! ...wait, hold the phone...that would only get MORE government involved...never mind :P
Practical rebuttal:
THe halting problem involves metalanguage in a sense. THe real program running ath the top level that analyzes itself, is root. THe program being analyzed is described, thus the root program is the "metaprogram".
THey invented teh term "metalanguage" to get aroudn this exact fallacy.
Now, assuming that turing's program can detect, with absolute certainty, whether or not a certain program would halt or not, it would, by necessity, need to be aware of its own decision on whether or not to terminate, and THAT is I/O dependant.
For a program to correctly predict anything, it needs to be AWARE of all the factors, INCLUDING those of the human running it, or the environment. Heck, the program could even "halt" if the CPU were to melt, and a perfect turing's program would certainly need to factor that in as well.
At any rate, turing's program would at least be able to determine that whether or not turing's program halts or not would depend on the data it was given, which would be properly flagged as "external/unknown". For it to go any further, it would need to be psychic. Perhaps a computer prophet could be of help here. Mosesola anyone?
The bottom line is that there is more to the halting problem than a paradox. There are simply too many variables that cannot be determined.
not happiening any time soon.
For starters, it's not exactly obvious. The existence of multiple companies looks like beneficial competition.
Plus, all the dollars they funnel into lobbying (and perhaps even bribes) is pretty much going to guarantee that the laws WONT change.
Americans are consumers first and foremost. So lnog as they'd rather suffer under an unfair service agreement rather than stand on their feet and be willing to suffer the risk of not having service at all.
It's the prisoner's dilemma. If only one person fights back, he gets screwed over, and everyone else gets rewarded. If there's going to be any fighting back, there needs to be cooperation.
Thank god for the GPL clause in the kernel.
Actually, the act is the only thing that is illegal. Making something a "hate crime" merely makes the hatred an aggravating factor in the crime itself, sorta like one could go from murder to capital murder if the victim is a cop, for instance. Hatred isn't a crime iteslf, merely an aggravating factor. At least that's what I *think* the legalese for it is...
Without the anchor of the criminal act itself, such hatred is, at worst, slander or libel of sorts.
I could say "fags should die", and nobody can lay a finger on me because what I'm exercising is free speech. If I kill a homosexual, I'm guilty of murder. If however, the two are COMBINED, what would otherwise be "free speech" becomes an aggravating factor in the murder, and is considered a "hate crime *enhancement*". It is an enhancement because saying "fags should die" (or most anything else for that matter) is not itself a crime.
Not quite.
Each downstream release of a GPL product is itself a derived work.
Even if Microsoft were to get proprietary license for one release, any copies that had already been released by said author to others up to that point are still GPL, because of the "automatic downstream license" clause.
Besides, nothing microsoft does can affect any "upstream" GPL stuff, owing to a lack of privity of contract. For that to work, microsoft would need to get an exclusive license from EVERY author who worked on it upstream, including the original author, who could, quite reasonably, be a thousand steps up.
Not to mention that the "third party licensing" of sources would practically cause a quantum explosion of preexisting licensees each with GPL rights to what they received...who would later be copyright holders themselves if they modified and distributed GPL style.
"This is the same case in which the RIAA had sent a letter to the Judge falsely indicating that AOL had 'confirmed that defendant owned an internet access account through which copyrighted sound recordings were downloaded and distributed'."
Hmm...I wonder if anyone's got the guts to go after the RIAA for perjury...
Not just that...it actually it deals with quantum physics and how a photon that is vertically aligned has a 50 percent chance of being either "/" or "\" and getting misinterpreted.
Only someone who knows which way it was polarized can correctly decode it.
This combination of 1's and 0's is used to generate a 1 time pad.