I think "Centralized" and "Firm Management" cannot be related to the kernel development process let alone, applied to it. The very concept of it is having various view points being expressed in a open enviroment, then thru peer discussion and review the best features get added. From time to time ego's and politics WILL get in the way of making a better piece of software, but as long as they stick with the whole "OPEN" (source, idea, mind,etc.) concept it will succeed.
I noticed the thread in the KC on Linux care and was kinda suprised to see some not so professional communication, as I read some of the response it became clear that the e-mail that started it was made out of frustration (you've spent years working on something and then you're told, it's not ready yet). I think initial responses had a little too much ego, but as they go on, they get down to business. I think this model will work in the long run, as long as people STAY OPEN MINDED, and are willing to listen and explain. Beware the darkside!
First, I'm not a raido expert at all, but has anyone done real testing to see how each of these devices are causing each other problems. 2.4ghz has been un-lic for a while without problems, (yes it has gotten a lot more popular). I think some "real" testing should be conducted. I'd hate to see wireless devices take even longer to implement...
I think what they have done is a big step in the right direction as long as it is controlled by a group or council that is made up of a cross-section of the industry and not just a bunch of Sun people looking out for Sun's interests. This, I think, would allow it to grow into something that progress out of the industries needs not, just Sun'scoporate direction. How many people now are using Java in a enterprise enviroment for critical systems? How many people would be more accepting of it if it were controlled diferently (i.e. the concil thingy)?
Does this mean it's sorta open/standardized? I think that is what is holding it back.. if it were standardized would this not generate a better product, much more inter-operable, etc. Anyone? Glad to see posts at 3am+
I've got a IBM 286 Server I use as a "desk" for my HP 4c, It has a warning label on it as it's over 35kg! It can stop bullets, be run-over my cars and be used to kill a man (or troll) by hurling it at the victim. I want to see more post at 2am+!!!
I've got a PII300mhz, 128mb RAM, 7.5gb IDE 7200rpm drive. And a Adaptec 2940 PCI SCSI Card, and a HP 9210i 8x4x32x CDRW drive. I can do almost anything in Linux while I burn, xmms, Netscape, compiling short stuff is as risky as I get (I won't push it and run Q3:). But windows I don't trust.. I let the system alone for 9min for a burn. It's just to unstable to do much of anything while burning. Same goes for NT 4, and a BIG one for W2k, you can crash the system with a direct floppy access:)
Under its proposal, Microsoft would provide open, timely and complete access to the parts of the Windows operating system code used by independent software companies to design applications to run on Windows. Complete access to parts... WTF?? How can they expect people to get over joyed. That's like saying We're gonna let you have anything you want, except what we don't want you to have!!
The processor used in the e-machines are Cyrix MII's not the media GX. MediaGX are highly integrate processors (video, and sound card functions are on the processor itself). They use quite a bit less power, and are Very, very cheap. Just thought you should know.
This seems a little more than odd... Lack of drivers? Their build dumb clients. What type of hardware do these run? Linux has been ported to several popular HW platforms. Drivers should be Display (loads of support for laptop chipsets) and Networking (ne2k worst case!). devices such as Barcode scanners are usually use keyboard splitters, Even if it's a serial one... it's SERIAL! Simple recepit printers could be plain text printers. As for barcode printers I don't think WinCE has any better support. This has to be Micro$oft related. They have no real reason to switch unless M$ had applied some pressure. Driver support... get a real reason!
I have been playing with computers for 12 years now, and making a "livining" from them for 6. The only certification I've got is the A+ certification, which is an absolute joke, I wrote both test in under 10min. Certifications and Degree's only add letters after some ones name. I've got loads of experience for someone who is 19, I beta tested NT Server (not one of the free giveaway ones), I have at home a Firewall, DNS, WEB, FTP, MAIL server along with VPND, and asortment of other things setup. You'd think this would help find me a job?? Nope I don't have my MCSE nor College or University. I am running my own computer business out of my basement with two other guy. We are try to get contracts/work/etc. but we're geeks, not sales people... quite painful Anyone out there got a similar situation?
How many Major Data centre's run on 4 systems with 4gb RAM and 128 processors using Intel systems? can this even be done? Sun is pretty much the only way to go when you get into "Big Business" that requires 99.999%-100% up time. If you are going to comment on something understand it first!
A lot of people seem to look at it as a useless device, that they have no need for it because of their Desktops/Latops. Look at it from the view of it being an extension of your PC. You can hook it up to your home network and access MP3s, and those with dedicated/high speed connections can use it for streaming HIGH quality audio... pretty cool. And it saves you from running cable from you pc to your bedroom or where ever...
Just a simple question, does this not fall under the same area as making a backup of software, and or copying VHS-VHS for personal use? I know some of the issue is the "cracking/Bypassing" of the encryption, but is it illegal to do so for personal purposes without breaking patent/copyright laws for the encryption?
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I just finished downloading 7.0 ISO, and setting it up on a OLD 486.... ARRRG!
I think "Centralized" and "Firm Management" cannot be related to the kernel development process let alone, applied to it. The very concept of it is having various view points being expressed in a open enviroment, then thru peer discussion and review the best features get added. From time to time ego's and politics WILL get in the way of making a better piece of software, but as long as they stick with the whole "OPEN" (source, idea, mind,etc.) concept it will succeed.
I noticed the thread in the KC on Linux care and was kinda suprised to see some not so professional communication, as I read some of the response it became clear that the e-mail that started it was made out of frustration (you've spent years working on something and then you're told, it's not ready yet). I think initial responses had a little too much ego, but as they go on, they get down to business. I think this model will work in the long run, as long as people STAY OPEN MINDED, and are willing to listen and explain. Beware the darkside!
First, I'm not a raido expert at all, but has anyone done real testing to see how each of these devices are causing each other problems. 2.4ghz has been un-lic for a while without problems, (yes it has gotten a lot more popular). I think some "real" testing should be conducted. I'd hate to see wireless devices take even longer to implement ...
Totally off topic but really, who doesn't want to see post at 2 or 3+am???? Please don't show yer age by the time you post :)
-1 for the first time but come on, 3+ am really cool
Mental note: Read article before posting :) (hey it 4:45am)
Wow this does look GOOD!
I think what they have done is a big step in the right direction as long as it is controlled by a group or council that is made up of a cross-section of the industry and not just a bunch of Sun people looking out for Sun's interests. This, I think, would allow it to grow into something that progress out of the industries needs not, just Sun'scoporate direction. How many people now are using Java in a enterprise enviroment for critical systems? How many people would be more accepting of it if it were controlled diferently (i.e. the concil thingy)?
Does this mean it's sorta open/standardized? I think that is what is holding it back.. if it were standardized would this not generate a better product, much more inter-operable, etc. Anyone?
Glad to see posts at 3am+
I've got a IBM 286 Server I use as a "desk" for my HP 4c, It has a warning label on it as it's over 35kg! It can stop bullets, be run-over my cars and be used to kill a man (or troll) by hurling it at the victim.
I want to see more post at 2am+!!!
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What? Is this a joke? The "William Tell". I truly hope this a joke, for the sake of nerds/geeks/etc. everywhere.
I've got a PII300mhz, 128mb RAM, 7.5gb IDE 7200rpm drive. And a Adaptec 2940 PCI SCSI Card, and a HP 9210i 8x4x32x CDRW drive. I can do almost anything in Linux while I burn, xmms, Netscape, compiling short stuff is as risky as I get (I won't push it and run Q3:). But windows I don't trust.. I let the system alone for 9min for a burn. It's just to unstable to do much of anything while burning. Same goes for NT 4, and a BIG one for W2k, you can crash the system with a direct floppy access :)
Under its proposal, Microsoft would provide open, timely and complete access to the parts of the Windows operating system code used by independent software companies to design applications to run on Windows. Complete access to parts... WTF?? How can they expect people to get over joyed. That's like saying We're gonna let you have anything you want, except what we don't want you to have!!
The processor used in the e-machines are Cyrix MII's not the media GX. MediaGX are highly integrate processors (video, and sound card functions are on the processor itself). They use quite a bit less power, and are Very, very cheap.
Just thought you should know.
This seems a little more than odd...
Lack of drivers? Their build dumb clients. What type of hardware do these run? Linux has been ported to several popular HW platforms. Drivers should be Display (loads of support for laptop chipsets) and Networking (ne2k worst case!). devices such as Barcode scanners are usually use keyboard splitters, Even if it's a serial one... it's SERIAL! Simple recepit printers could be plain text printers. As for barcode printers I don't think WinCE has any better support. This has to be Micro$oft related. They have no real reason to switch unless M$ had applied some pressure. Driver support... get a real reason!
I have been playing with computers for 12 years now, and making a "livining" from them for 6. The only certification I've got is the A+ certification, which is an absolute joke, I wrote both test in under 10min. Certifications and Degree's only add letters after some ones name. I've got loads of experience for someone who is 19, I beta tested NT Server (not one of the free giveaway ones), I have at home a Firewall, DNS, WEB, FTP, MAIL server along with VPND, and asortment of other things setup. You'd think this would help find me a job?? Nope I don't have my MCSE nor College or University. I am running my own computer business out of my basement with two other guy. We are try to get contracts/work/etc. but we're geeks, not sales people... quite painful
Anyone out there got a similar situation?
How many Major Data centre's run on 4 systems with 4gb RAM and 128 processors using Intel systems? can this even be done? Sun is pretty much the only way to go when you get into "Big Business" that requires 99.999%-100% up time.
If you are going to comment on something understand it first!
A lot of people seem to look at it as a useless device, that they have no need for it because of their Desktops/Latops. Look at it from the view of it being an extension of your PC. You can hook it up to your home network and access MP3s, and those with dedicated/high speed connections can use it for streaming HIGH quality audio... pretty cool. And it saves you from running cable from you pc to your bedroom or where ever...
Just a simple question, does this not fall under the same area as making a backup of software, and or copying VHS-VHS for personal use? I know some of the issue is the "cracking/Bypassing" of the encryption, but is it illegal to do so for personal purposes without breaking patent/copyright laws for the encryption?