Just to point out, the legal punishments are among the lesser consequences of her actions. The community went nuts over this. She was getting death threats on the hour, I believe her husband lost his job, and everyone who knew her now likely thinks she is scum. Her home address is out on the web. I'd be suprised if no one threw rocks through her windows and keyed her car.
I don't know what punishment fits this crime, and it was of course a crime, but she -didn't- kill the girl, she did that herself. I don't think this crime justifies how she's been treated. At the very least, the 300k and jail time is not the full punishment.
Did you intend to imply that the rich should be immune from the law and/or the consequnces of breaking it?
I'm confused as to how you could have gotten that from his post without LOOKING for ways of misinterpreting it. He was just specifying that if you have a billion dollars, a fine of 300,000 dollars isn't going to slow you down, a simple observation of math without any implication of "and that's how it should be." At worst it was a pointless tangent.
Yes, they do suck, but lawyers by themselves don't do much damage. It also takes stupid kids who injure/kill themselves at a community pool. It then takes greedy/stupid/bad parents to take advantage of the situation with the lawyer.
Lets not forget that: lawyers are always going to be evil, but it's greedy individuals who use them as weapons against the community.
Not really relevant, but for those of you who are now pissed off at those assholes, here's some youtube clips of people getting injured in funny ways at pools.
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Indeed, why would someone waste all their mod points marking jokes as offtopic? Is it one geologist who has no sense of humor and wants a very serious academic discussion about the evolution of rocks... on the interblarg?
This whole article is off topic anyway. The article points out the obvious: that it's not "evolution" in the same sense as Darwin. Pointing that out though doesn't make it a non issue, it begs the question "Why then are you using the word EVOLUTION?"
The answer seems to be "to make the correlation between biological evolution and this rock change seem more relevant and interesting than it would be otherwise." Not sure if it's the journalist or the scientist at fault here. But this appears to me, a non-geologist, to simply point out that humans and rocks have changed.
Isn't that kind of a given? We know that cyanobacteria changed the atmosphere earlier in the earths history, to carbon, which would presumably be changing the surface rocks. We also know that plates have continued drifting, volcanic eruptions, and meteor impacts likewise have global effects on geology, and of course local effects like glacier movement and differing pressures cause different minerals to form. And carbon dating, which I admit I don't fully understand, seems to be a pretty obvious indication of "earth" materials changing over a human-species time scale.
It seems like this "study" merely is suggesting that minerals change a little bit faster than we usually think of them changing. That would be more noteworthy if it were a central tenant of geology that mineral composition has not changed since humans have been around, but that doesn't seem to be an assumption at all.
... and complain to the EPA that 10,000 years of safety isn't enough for a nuclear disposal site.
Well, if they actually had a 10K track record of being safe, that would be one thing, but we're talking THEORETICALLY. You know, like how the Titanic was said to be unsinkable. No one is upset because they don't think 10,000 years is long enough, they're concerned because these are people, who are not infallible, that are saying it will last that long.
"We miscalculated tectonic shifts and there was a construction defect, the site will now leak into the drinking water in 4 years rather than the previously stated 10,000 years. We've pre-emptively declared bankrupcy and are moving to bermuda. We feel really bad about this, sorry."
But, you know, feel free to continue to misinterpret liberal concerns and then mock them, I see you posted AC, so you don't even look like an idiot.
Why do people still listen to the media is beyond me.
Well, media which is wrong even most of the time is still more accurate than ignorance.
It's also in reality easier to tell what's crap and what's important. Professional pundits making predictions about anything, "doctors" talking about new societal diseases, economists making predictions, celebrity news, "human interest stories" that don't involve actual suffering... that's purely for entertainment purposes, or should be.
Why? Because the same people who promote electric cars, are also the people that recoil from even the word "nuclear"... and thus ensure that while the rest of the world forges ahead in power generation technology, we are stuck with 30+ year old inefficient uranium-guzzlers.
I don't think it's fair to imply that crazy SF liberals are holding back a problem-free solution to our energy needs. The public is largely sour on it as well, though maybe less so, and not even conservatives want nuclear byproducts or a nuclear power plant in a 1000 mile radius of their children.
Perhaps people should consider that it's better to do things because they are the right thing, not because they are the "in thing".
With the chicken and the egg problem with electric/ hydrogen/ whatever, artificially low gas prices, and a strong oil and auto lobby, you're really talking about government action, not private action. And I hope you're not suggesting that we wait for the government to do something because it's the right thing to do. I think some parts of the constitution were drafted because they were the right thing to do, after that I'm not sure it ever was a thing in american government again.
It's also interesting that this happened less than a year after deregulation. Doesn't disprove deregulation in theory, but 40 years of regulation worked great, deregulation worked less than a year, the utility companies are, as you said, crooks.
Deregulation is a nice theory though. Not quite as elegant as communism, but it's a nice idea.
They'll be a cinch to defeat. You see, Killbots have a preset kill limit. Knowing their weakness, we can send wave after wave of our own men at them, until they reach their limit and shutdown.
Yes! It's ambiguous as is. Which were you going to go with?
1. Our ethical killer-robot overlords 2. Our more-benevolent-than-a-human killing machinev overlords 3. The impending terminator/matrix/MD geist/1000 other sci-fi themed apocalypse 4. Users who are new to/. who aren't Simpsons fans and don't get this joke 5. Our new ant overlords, since there is no stopping them even with our new murder-bots
Submitter sounds like one of those people who moves to Hollywood wanting to become a star and end up whoring their asses to pay for snorting crank off of the sidewalk.
Do many of those people have the insight (and bravery) to ask how to do it on a board frequented by people who actually work in the industry (and trolls)? Is the submitter saying he's going to move to, er, gaming town USA? Does he sound like he thinks writers, even on videogames, get paid more than bread and water?
Hmm... Sounds like an AC is bitter at his utterly wasted life and hates the idea of a kid pursuing his dream job...
Even though Obama is inexperienced, per se, he's shown himself to be an experienced politician, and the best politicians are capable of making it sound like they're listening to you and even agreeing with you while politely shooing you out the back door.
Well, given that we're talking about videogames and Obama is hopefully concerning himself with foreign affairs and, you know, bigger matters, I'm not sure he would bother even making it sound like he's listening. Not returning their phone calls would be about as polite as he should be. Maybe not outright laughing at them on the phone and hanging up, but it wouldn't be out of line.
One big EMF smackdown on the earth and its as if we never even existed past the early 2000's.
Well, much as I loved "Unbelievable," I don't think they're coming back, so we need not worry about that.
And anyway, do we really WANT to preserve the history of MMOs for future generations? They might see "LOLZ!!! N00BZ got pwned by agro horde!!!" and decide not to clone us back to life. Worse yet, they might emulate it.
What we've got here is... failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach. So you get what we had here last week, which is the way he wants it... well, he gets it. I don't like it any more than you men.
Uh... I agree we have a failure to communicate. I think it's at least in part because of confusing pronoun use.
Seriously, I don't know what you're trying to get across. Not trying to be insulting here, I honestly can't tell if you're speaking about me or Eric Holder.
Are cars governed to the national speedlimit? As far as I am concerned Internet censorship basically amounts to that. We need to start developing a new way to comunicate though. something that can be external to the internet, yet still available for indexing.
National speed limit does govern driving. You totally lost me as to how that ties into internet censorship.
To be fair, it's pretty common knowledge that St. Louis is not the most friendly of cities, and "City hospital" downtown is going to be underfunded and dealing with lots of gunshot wounds.
The interwebs freedoms are the last freadoms we still have in the world. You will be shot if you try and stake a claim to new lands. You will be on the news (and in jail) if you open the throttle of just about any car out there. You just can't go out and tinker anymore: You can't make modifications to your house w/o an inspection, you can't build your own chemistry sets, you can't create your own fireworks, god forbid if you actually make the devices you use every day. You are labeled a terrorist if you do these once playtime activities.
Just so we're clear, the internets are the only freedoms we have after the following freedoms were taken away - Claiming new lands - "Opening the throttle to any car" (You mean driving fast or removing speed restriction devices?) - Modifying your house - Building your own chemistry sets - Creating fireworks
Kind of an odd list. I know there are people who want to do those things, but I don't feel like not being able to do them means we're in a totalitarian dictatorship. A little perspective, please.
Do you live in St. Louis? I'm not with the RIAA*, I am a fellow youngster living in St. Louis who would like to recieve some illegal stolen music from today's popular artists, then maybe go and drink an alchoholic beverage with you. I have videogames that we can play as well. We can "hang out." I want to emphasize that I am not with the RIAA*.
(* RIAA here does not refer to Recording Industry Association of America)
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Just to point out, the legal punishments are among the lesser consequences of her actions. The community went nuts over this. She was getting death threats on the hour, I believe her husband lost his job, and everyone who knew her now likely thinks she is scum. Her home address is out on the web. I'd be suprised if no one threw rocks through her windows and keyed her car.
I don't know what punishment fits this crime, and it was of course a crime, but she -didn't- kill the girl, she did that herself. I don't think this crime justifies how she's been treated. At the very least, the 300k and jail time is not the full punishment.
Did you intend to imply that the rich should be immune from the law and/or the consequnces of breaking it?
I'm confused as to how you could have gotten that from his post without LOOKING for ways of misinterpreting it. He was just specifying that if you have a billion dollars, a fine of 300,000 dollars isn't going to slow you down, a simple observation of math without any implication of "and that's how it should be." At worst it was a pointless tangent.
Shieldwolf, what planet do you live on? Your posts are always vague and nonsensical.
*sigh* damned lawyers....
Yes, they do suck, but lawyers by themselves don't do much damage. It also takes stupid kids who injure/kill themselves at a community pool. It then takes greedy/stupid/bad parents to take advantage of the situation with the lawyer.
Lets not forget that: lawyers are always going to be evil, but it's greedy individuals who use them as weapons against the community.
Not really relevant, but for those of you who are now pissed off at those assholes, here's some youtube clips of people getting injured in funny ways at pools.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSYWqkhScU8&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dj9lkqRDUNE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrzHY345aKk&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3A69-NaAXw&NR=1
Indeed, why would someone waste all their mod points marking jokes as offtopic? Is it one geologist who has no sense of humor and wants a very serious academic discussion about the evolution of rocks... on the interblarg?
This whole article is off topic anyway. The article points out the obvious: that it's not "evolution" in the same sense as Darwin. Pointing that out though doesn't make it a non issue, it begs the question "Why then are you using the word EVOLUTION?"
The answer seems to be "to make the correlation between biological evolution and this rock change seem more relevant and interesting than it would be otherwise." Not sure if it's the journalist or the scientist at fault here. But this appears to me, a non-geologist, to simply point out that humans and rocks have changed.
Isn't that kind of a given? We know that cyanobacteria changed the atmosphere earlier in the earths history, to carbon, which would presumably be changing the surface rocks. We also know that plates have continued drifting, volcanic eruptions, and meteor impacts likewise have global effects on geology, and of course local effects like glacier movement and differing pressures cause different minerals to form. And carbon dating, which I admit I don't fully understand, seems to be a pretty obvious indication of "earth" materials changing over a human-species time scale.
It seems like this "study" merely is suggesting that minerals change a little bit faster than we usually think of them changing. That would be more noteworthy if it were a central tenant of geology that mineral composition has not changed since humans have been around, but that doesn't seem to be an assumption at all.
... and complain to the EPA that 10,000 years of safety isn't enough for a nuclear disposal site.
Well, if they actually had a 10K track record of being safe, that would be one thing, but we're talking THEORETICALLY. You know, like how the Titanic was said to be unsinkable. No one is upset because they don't think 10,000 years is long enough, they're concerned because these are people, who are not infallible, that are saying it will last that long.
"We miscalculated tectonic shifts and there was a construction defect, the site will now leak into the drinking water in 4 years rather than the previously stated 10,000 years. We've pre-emptively declared bankrupcy and are moving to bermuda. We feel really bad about this, sorry."
But, you know, feel free to continue to misinterpret liberal concerns and then mock them, I see you posted AC, so you don't even look like an idiot.
And those issues were oddly not solved by putting fewer restrictions on Enron. Or rather, they were, but in the worst way possible.
Why do people still listen to the media is beyond me.
Well, media which is wrong even most of the time is still more accurate than ignorance.
It's also in reality easier to tell what's crap and what's important. Professional pundits making predictions about anything, "doctors" talking about new societal diseases, economists making predictions, celebrity news, "human interest stories" that don't involve actual suffering... that's purely for entertainment purposes, or should be.
Why? Because the same people who promote electric cars, are also the people that recoil from even the word "nuclear"... and thus ensure that while the rest of the world forges ahead in power generation technology, we are stuck with 30+ year old inefficient uranium-guzzlers.
I don't think it's fair to imply that crazy SF liberals are holding back a problem-free solution to our energy needs. The public is largely sour on it as well, though maybe less so, and not even conservatives want nuclear byproducts or a nuclear power plant in a 1000 mile radius of their children.
Perhaps people should consider that it's better to do things because they are the right thing, not because they are the "in thing".
With the chicken and the egg problem with electric/ hydrogen/ whatever, artificially low gas prices, and a strong oil and auto lobby, you're really talking about government action, not private action. And I hope you're not suggesting that we wait for the government to do something because it's the right thing to do. I think some parts of the constitution were drafted because they were the right thing to do, after that I'm not sure it ever was a thing in american government again.
Yes, small isolated areas, like MOST OF CALIFORNIA.
(On the off chance that you were being sarcastic first: you're doing it wrong.)
It's also interesting that this happened less than a year after deregulation. Doesn't disprove deregulation in theory, but 40 years of regulation worked great, deregulation worked less than a year, the utility companies are, as you said, crooks.
Deregulation is a nice theory though. Not quite as elegant as communism, but it's a nice idea.
We need to drop the term "robot"
Uh... then what do we call robots?
(ironic note, as I was writing this "Yoshimi battles the pink robots" came up on shuffle)
They'll be a cinch to defeat. You see, Killbots have a preset kill limit. Knowing their weakness, we can send wave after wave of our own men at them, until they reach their limit and shutdown.
-Zapp Branigan
...need I say more?
Yes! It's ambiguous as is. Which were you going to go with?
1. Our ethical killer-robot overlords /. who aren't Simpsons fans and don't get this joke
2. Our more-benevolent-than-a-human killing machinev overlords
3. The impending terminator/matrix/MD geist/1000 other sci-fi themed apocalypse
4. Users who are new to
5. Our new ant overlords, since there is no stopping them even with our new murder-bots
When I die, there will be no survivors left. The walking undead don't count and have no need for my data, they will have already eaten my brain.
Submitter sounds like one of those people who moves to Hollywood wanting to become a star and end up whoring their asses to pay for snorting crank off of the sidewalk.
Do many of those people have the insight (and bravery) to ask how to do it on a board frequented by people who actually work in the industry (and trolls)? Is the submitter saying he's going to move to, er, gaming town USA? Does he sound like he thinks writers, even on videogames, get paid more than bread and water?
Hmm... Sounds like an AC is bitter at his utterly wasted life and hates the idea of a kid pursuing his dream job...
You're not exactly competing with Dickens. You're not even competing with Dick.
Unless he wants to work in the field of porn videogames, which also suffers from a lack of quality writing.
Even though Obama is inexperienced, per se, he's shown himself to be an experienced politician, and the best politicians are capable of making it sound like they're listening to you and even agreeing with you while politely shooing you out the back door.
Well, given that we're talking about videogames and Obama is hopefully concerning himself with foreign affairs and, you know, bigger matters, I'm not sure he would bother even making it sound like he's listening. Not returning their phone calls would be about as polite as he should be. Maybe not outright laughing at them on the phone and hanging up, but it wouldn't be out of line.
Frankly, the danm things age like wine in many instances.
You're right, they DO age just like wine! The tannins in my old sega tapes are quite mellow by now. PS1 games are losing their acidic taste as well.
No no, he realized the "full implications of the paragraph in question are the polar opposite of [his] beliefs."
His beliefs being "I should get lots of money" and the full implications of this being "I get less money because I'll be fired."
One big EMF smackdown on the earth and its as if we never even existed past the early 2000's.
Well, much as I loved "Unbelievable," I don't think they're coming back, so we need not worry about that.
And anyway, do we really WANT to preserve the history of MMOs for future generations? They might see "LOLZ!!! N00BZ got pwned by agro horde!!!" and decide not to clone us back to life. Worse yet, they might emulate it.
What we've got here is... failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach. So you get what we had here last week, which is the way he wants it... well, he gets it. I don't like it any more than you men.
Uh... I agree we have a failure to communicate. I think it's at least in part because of confusing pronoun use.
Seriously, I don't know what you're trying to get across. Not trying to be insulting here, I honestly can't tell if you're speaking about me or Eric Holder.
Are cars governed to the national speedlimit? As far as I am concerned Internet censorship basically amounts to that. We need to start developing a new way to comunicate though. something that can be external to the internet, yet still available for indexing.
National speed limit does govern driving. You totally lost me as to how that ties into internet censorship.
To be fair, it's pretty common knowledge that St. Louis is not the most friendly of cities, and "City hospital" downtown is going to be underfunded and dealing with lots of gunshot wounds.
The interwebs freedoms are the last freadoms we still have in the world. You will be shot if you try and stake a claim to new lands. You will be on the news (and in jail) if you open the throttle of just about any car out there. You just can't go out and tinker anymore: You can't make modifications to your house w/o an inspection, you can't build your own chemistry sets, you can't create your own fireworks, god forbid if you actually make the devices you use every day. You are labeled a terrorist if you do these once playtime activities.
Just so we're clear, the internets are the only freedoms we have after the following freedoms were taken away
- Claiming new lands
- "Opening the throttle to any car" (You mean driving fast or removing speed restriction devices?)
- Modifying your house
- Building your own chemistry sets
- Creating fireworks
Kind of an odd list. I know there are people who want to do those things, but I don't feel like not being able to do them means we're in a totalitarian dictatorship. A little perspective, please.
Do you live in St. Louis? I'm not with the RIAA*, I am a fellow youngster living in St. Louis who would like to recieve some illegal stolen music from today's popular artists, then maybe go and drink an alchoholic beverage with you. I have videogames that we can play as well. We can "hang out." I want to emphasize that I am not with the RIAA*.
(* RIAA here does not refer to Recording Industry Association of America)