VAJ is written in Smalltalk.
VA Micro Edition is written in Java.
The new version of the VAME IDE is called "Eclipse" or alternatively the Websphere Workbench download. You can get it at http://www.eclipse.org
First of all, M$ version of Java is pretty much dead. Secondly, why would this harm IBM's Java? If they open-sourced their Java and the community found it to be a better app., don't you think it would become the de-facto Java VM?
The problem with all of this idiotic thinking is the open source community thinks it has the ability to write VMs. VMs are an extremely complicated beast, best left to the experts w/i these companies who spend their lives devoted to writing them. Some 2-bit hack isn't going to sit down and improve the garbage collector over night.
No. They were probably timing the release to coincide with the Embedded Systems Conference in San Jose this week.
How does IBM's embedded Java VM on Linux compare?
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I wonder how IBM's new embedded Java VM for Linux compares. It's available as a beta for x86 and PPC Linux. MontaVista recently made an announcement that they'll be distributing it with their release of HardHat Linux.
Has anybody tried using VisualAge Micro Edition? It's a Java app. for building embedded Java applications, and the IDE runs on Linux. Could VAME be used to develop applications for Teapot?
This is just another example of IBMs avowed support for Linux. You can bet that IBM sees this as a huge opportunity. One thing I'm wondering is if we will be seeing Thinkpads with multiple operating systems on sale? There are a lot of consumers who would love the chance to try Linux while having Windows as a crutch to use in the meantime.
I've had the displeasure of working with the earlier Jornadas in both the handheld and palm varities. They are nothing but a large headache. Conversely, I've found both the Palm III, and especially the Palm VII to be handy, useful, and fun. The problems with the Jornadas are multifold. First of all, Windows CE 2.0 is an embedded disaster. The only functionality it provides which is slightly cool is the sound recording interface built in to the Jornadas. Along with this feature though comes a physical footprint that is unwieldy. Add to that the ridiculous fold down plastic lid and you have something that would only fit in the pocket of the baggiest beach shorts you own. It remains to be seen whether or not color is useful in a PDA. When more of them use quality bitmap images, perhaps this will prove to be a necesity. Until then, using color isn't terribly useful. For the additional cost, there isn't enough value added for my money. Skip the cost and buy a Palm VII which has cool remote Internet capabilities. HP and Sony (Casiopeia) need to rethink their PDA strategy. Microsoft hasn't proven to be an automatic win in this arena, and doesn't look good anytime soon. The "Windows powered" stuff looks promising... but then so did CE before I started working and programming in it.
No doubt there is a big future for embedded Linux! I think one of the most interesting things to see is the players who have come to the table to see it succeeds. The group is filled with RTOS vendors and also strong players in the embedded Java market. Noticeably absent is Sun Microsystems. Probably their desire to promote Solaris plus their incomplete embedded Java story will keep them away from this consortium. Given the baggage they bring with the heinous Sun Community License this is probably a good thing. Fundamental aspects of the Linux OS need to be changed in order to make it a true embedded microkernel. Hopefully, the partners involved in this effort can come to the table and work out a way for this to happen while keeping the source open and free.
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Actually, IBM created its own clean room set of class libraries that ship with its embedded VM called J9: http://www.ibm.com/embedded
What does this even mean? The two concepts are dissimilar.
VAJ is written in Smalltalk. VA Micro Edition is written in Java. The new version of the VAME IDE is called "Eclipse" or alternatively the Websphere Workbench download. You can get it at http://www.eclipse.org
First of all, M$ version of Java is pretty much dead. Secondly, why would this harm IBM's Java? If they open-sourced their Java and the community found it to be a better app., don't you think it would become the de-facto Java VM? The problem with all of this idiotic thinking is the open source community thinks it has the ability to write VMs. VMs are an extremely complicated beast, best left to the experts w/i these companies who spend their lives devoted to writing them. Some 2-bit hack isn't going to sit down and improve the garbage collector over night.
No. They were probably timing the release to coincide with the Embedded Systems Conference in San Jose this week.
I wonder how IBM's new embedded Java VM for Linux compares. It's available as a beta for x86 and PPC Linux. MontaVista recently made an announcement that they'll be distributing it with their release of HardHat Linux.
Has anybody tried using VisualAge Micro Edition? It's a Java app. for building embedded Java applications, and the IDE runs on Linux. Could VAME be used to develop applications for Teapot?
This is just another example of IBMs avowed support for Linux. You can bet that IBM sees this as a huge opportunity. One thing I'm wondering is if we will be seeing Thinkpads with multiple operating systems on sale? There are a lot of consumers who would love the chance to try Linux while having Windows as a crutch to use in the meantime.
I've had the displeasure of working with the earlier Jornadas in both the handheld and palm varities. They are nothing but a large headache. Conversely, I've found both the Palm III, and especially the Palm VII to be handy, useful, and fun. The problems with the Jornadas are multifold. First of all, Windows CE 2.0 is an embedded disaster. The only functionality it provides which is slightly cool is the sound recording interface built in to the Jornadas. Along with this feature though comes a physical footprint that is unwieldy. Add to that the ridiculous fold down plastic lid and you have something that would only fit in the pocket of the baggiest beach shorts you own. It remains to be seen whether or not color is useful in a PDA. When more of them use quality bitmap images, perhaps this will prove to be a necesity. Until then, using color isn't terribly useful. For the additional cost, there isn't enough value added for my money. Skip the cost and buy a Palm VII which has cool remote Internet capabilities. HP and Sony (Casiopeia) need to rethink their PDA strategy. Microsoft hasn't proven to be an automatic win in this arena, and doesn't look good anytime soon. The "Windows powered" stuff looks promising... but then so did CE before I started working and programming in it.
Also have a look at VisualAge Micro Edition. It's a Java IDE (geared toward the embedded world) written in Java. http://www-4.ibm.com/software/ad/embedde d/
No doubt there is a big future for embedded Linux! I think one of the most interesting things to see is the players who have come to the table to see it succeeds. The group is filled with RTOS vendors and also strong players in the embedded Java market. Noticeably absent is Sun Microsystems. Probably their desire to promote Solaris plus their incomplete embedded Java story will keep them away from this consortium. Given the baggage they bring with the heinous Sun Community License this is probably a good thing. Fundamental aspects of the Linux OS need to be changed in order to make it a true embedded microkernel. Hopefully, the partners involved in this effort can come to the table and work out a way for this to happen while keeping the source open and free.