The more aware the general public is of the morally-dubious position of the labels, the less chance the labels have of pushing through "settlements" under threat of litigation.
Well, I admit I've never read the C FAQ. But I'd love to see the contortions one must make to explain why you cant return pointers to auto variables.
Let me try a contortion:-)
You cannot return pointers to variables with local storage duration, as the C standard calls this "undefined behaviour"[N869, 6.2.4.3, 6.2.4.4, 6.2.4.6].
These are the same sort of people who get angry when people confuse "pass by reference" for "passing references by value".
Well, it's true, they do (or rather, we do:-), because it leads to all sorts of misconceptions - you obviously know what you are talking about, but saying the same thing to a pascal programmer would make them think something else entirely.
The problem with C is that it requires a decent explanation of computer architecture to understand; no other language is quite this bad. This leads to explanations about the stack versus heap and other technical considerations that no other language FAQ needs to explain.
If you ever even read CLC, or the C FAQ, you'd know better than to refer to stack/heap - the C experts get, well, vexed when hearing things like "stack" and "heap" in a C context, and with good reason. You see, saying that C actually has those concepts is misleading, because it doesn't, and trying to learn C when keeping in mind "stack" and "heap" leads to bad practices. So they maintain that no C problem (in CLC and the C FAQ) should ever mention these things, as the C standard itself makes no mention of it, and your C problem would never have to consider those things either.
It won't become what Joel wants it to become, reason being it requires openID. You want community support? Then allow people without openid to create an account - requiring someone to click through 2 different domains and a total of 6 pages (+-) just to create an account borders on stupidity.
Pure democracy is tyranny of the minority by the majority. Democracy without limits is never a good idea.
So who should determine those limits? An elite group of land-owning white men? Modern politicians who have done whatever it takes to rise in power? You?
Seriously, if I knew the answers to questions as profound as this, I'd hardly be posting on slashdot, would I? These questions presume that the group in charge are automatically "evil" (you use loaded terms). By your definition, Democracy is inherently "evil", as it means someone is always in charge.
Why is a tyranny of the majority by the minority preferable?
I never advocated that either. If your view is "there is always going to be a tyranny, so we may as make sure that it benefits the largest slice of society", then I'm not going to argue with you. Mostly, we can rely on the majority to have a heart for the minorities, however, as a minority myself, I'd rather have a system that gives every group with a stake in the country an equal say.
"Democracy" just gives everyone proportional say, which is flawed. We should not have proportional say, but letting everyone have equal say means that no progress is ever made, as everyone is always at odds with each other. I do not know how to solve this, but that does not mean that the current system is worth continuing.
First was "Hang on - 'idle' - why the hell are they modding".
Nanoseconds later - "Wait, why don't they disable modding for idle?"
Hot on the heels of that - "Well, if a mod is stupid enough to waste their points in this section, isn't that a good thing?"...
So it all works out - anyone stupid enough to waste their modpoints here would be incorrectly modding in the rest of slashdot, so perhaps it's best that we let them mod in here to keep their effect "out there" to a minimum:-)
Well, I'm currently in the middle of replaying Duke Nukem 3D, and I am enjoying it immensely, even though I have FEAR + expansion pack sitting on my desk. Now why do you suppose that is? I can't see myself revisiting HL, or Doom3 (although i want to replay Doom1+2). I play starcraft all the time, and DiabloII as well. All "bad" graphics (by crysis standards, which I also have on my desk), but I'm having more fun than with the "good" graphics.
I disagree. Two people might work together. Drop many people who are easily and visually separated by a single characteristic (hair colour, ethnicity, etc) and they will very happily form two groups based on the single identifiable characteristic.
Mobs behave differently (and less sanely) than individuals, because of the individuals propensity to self-identify with others. All biasness comes from groups, not from individuals.
"They cannot afford our product, so lets artificially accelerate their development until such point that they can, and then sell them out product"
Not that I, paying ZAR70 per gig for internet access, mind at all. Hell, bring it on - those monopolistic providers here in Africa, please, by all means, hand their asses to them.
Oh FCOL, who the fuck moderated this as troll - c'mon - play nicely here - over the last few days it seems that a metric fuckton of non-troll and/or non-flamebait posts have been modded most unfairly. Who the hell is getting modpoints these days?
However, I feel, very strongly, that when one is willing to acknowledge "The researchers did valuable work", then all those points fall away.
As far as most research work goes (and it makes no difference whether you're in Marine Biology or Description Logics), all we do is publish what we find. Our most used sentence is "Nobody told me I had to find a solution as well". Most of research is simply discovering new problems for others to solve.
(ps, ignore misspellings/errors in this post, Parents came to visit and brought a full bottle of single-malt whiskey, and am pleasantly drunk right now:-))
The only safe place in the world is safe and sound all by your lonesome in your parents' basement.
Here in SA I've got 14cm hunter spiders in my parents basement! Seriously. These things have garden snakes for breakfast, so don't fucking tell me how safe my parents basement is - I only go in there with a team of sherpas and a pack of wolves.
And what makes you think that this report would have anything at all to do with reality? I hire an accountant primarily to cook the books in my favour. Any expense report produced will reflect what is in my best interests. The whole point behind hiring sharp accountants is to pay as little tax as possible - any expense report is going to show the maximum possible expense, in order that the tax is reduced. If it is in my favour to pay more tax/less tax to ensure my future monopolistic profits continue, my accountant will be sure to show this (or otherwise, if I so require).
Don't kid yourself - any report produced by a paid-for-by-company accountant will be whatever the company requires*.
*Unless, of course, the company in question has won the "auditing" lotto:-)
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The more aware the general public is of the morally-dubious position of the labels, the less chance the labels have of pushing through "settlements" under threat of litigation.
This is a good thing (not for Ray, obviously).
Yes?
Well, I admit I've never read the C FAQ. But I'd love to see the contortions one must make to explain why you cant return pointers to auto variables.
Let me try a contortion :-)
You cannot return pointers to variables with local storage duration, as the C standard calls this "undefined behaviour"[N869, 6.2.4.3, 6.2.4.4, 6.2.4.6].
These are the same sort of people who get angry when people confuse "pass by reference" for "passing references by value".
Well, it's true, they do (or rather, we do :-), because it leads to all sorts of misconceptions - you obviously know what you are talking about, but saying the same thing to a pascal programmer would make them think something else entirely.
The problem with C is that it requires a decent explanation of computer architecture to understand; no other language is quite this bad. This leads to explanations about the stack versus heap and other technical considerations that no other language FAQ needs to explain.
If you ever even read CLC, or the C FAQ, you'd know better than to refer to stack/heap - the C experts get, well, vexed when hearing things like "stack" and "heap" in a C context, and with good reason. You see, saying that C actually has those concepts is misleading, because it doesn't, and trying to learn C when keeping in mind "stack" and "heap" leads to bad practices. So they maintain that no C problem (in CLC and the C FAQ) should ever mention these things, as the C standard itself makes no mention of it, and your C problem would never have to consider those things either.
It won't become what Joel wants it to become, reason being it requires openID. You want community support? Then allow people without openid to create an account - requiring someone to click through 2 different domains and a total of 6 pages (+-) just to create an account borders on stupidity.
So who should determine those limits? An elite group of land-owning white men? Modern politicians who have done whatever it takes to rise in power? You?
Seriously, if I knew the answers to questions as profound as this, I'd hardly be posting on slashdot, would I? These questions presume that the group in charge are automatically "evil" (you use loaded terms). By your definition, Democracy is inherently "evil", as it means someone is always in charge.
Why is a tyranny of the majority by the minority preferable?
I never advocated that either. If your view is "there is always going to be a tyranny, so we may as make sure that it benefits the largest slice of society", then I'm not going to argue with you. Mostly, we can rely on the majority to have a heart for the minorities, however, as a minority myself, I'd rather have a system that gives every group with a stake in the country an equal say.
"Democracy" just gives everyone proportional say, which is flawed. We should not have proportional say, but letting everyone have equal say means that no progress is ever made, as everyone is always at odds with each other. I do not know how to solve this, but that does not mean that the current system is worth continuing.
Exactly my thoughts.
...
:-)
First was "Hang on - 'idle' - why the hell are they modding".
Nanoseconds later - "Wait, why don't they disable modding for idle?"
Hot on the heels of that - "Well, if a mod is stupid enough to waste their points in this section, isn't that a good thing?"
So it all works out - anyone stupid enough to waste their modpoints here would be incorrectly modding in the rest of slashdot, so perhaps it's best that we let them mod in here to keep their effect "out there" to a minimum
IOW. Learn how to be a con artist using this fictional philosophy as a framework.
http://xkcd.com/451/
Take away the magnets, see what happens. This is not renewable energy people.
Well, I'm currently in the middle of replaying Duke Nukem 3D, and I am enjoying it immensely, even though I have FEAR + expansion pack sitting on my desk. Now why do you suppose that is? I can't see myself revisiting HL, or Doom3 (although i want to replay Doom1+2). I play starcraft all the time, and DiabloII as well. All "bad" graphics (by crysis standards, which I also have on my desk), but I'm having more fun than with the "good" graphics.
I agree.
Pure democracy is tyranny of the minority by the majority. Democracy without limits is never a good idea.
And exactly how would superman find it? Xray vision? How would he then know he found it?
I disagree. Two people might work together. Drop many people who are easily and visually separated by a single characteristic (hair colour, ethnicity, etc) and they will very happily form two groups based on the single identifiable characteristic.
Mobs behave differently (and less sanely) than individuals, because of the individuals propensity to self-identify with others. All biasness comes from groups, not from individuals.
Marketing is great, innit?
"They cannot afford our product, so lets artificially accelerate their development until such point that they can, and then sell them out product"
Not that I, paying ZAR70 per gig for internet access, mind at all. Hell, bring it on - those monopolistic providers here in Africa, please, by all means, hand their asses to them.
I don't understand it therefor it must be junk! Perfectly scientific.
Most scientists do not actually do this. Most reporters, on the other hand, do.
Wait, what? Only their DNA? Damn
Or "grants grants grants" :-)
Oh FCOL, who the fuck moderated this as troll - c'mon - play nicely here - over the last few days it seems that a metric fuckton of non-troll and/or non-flamebait posts have been modded most unfairly. Who the hell is getting modpoints these days?
The cat's out the bag now, boys ... no longer a secret
:-)
aw, what the hell - am drunk anyway, taking me longer than 20 minutes to type this out
The spiders do that as well. Bloody hell, they would get mistaken for tarantulas, only tarantulas are not that aggressive or large.
Welcome to South Africa, have a nice day, oh, and by the way, stay away from anything furry with eight legs and a social problem.
And you've obviously never seen some of these research grants. How do you think the goatse guy got that way i the first place?
Your points have been duly noted.
:-))
*pulls keyboard closer*
However, I feel, very strongly, that when one is willing to acknowledge "The researchers did valuable work", then all those points fall away.
As far as most research work goes (and it makes no difference whether you're in Marine Biology or Description Logics), all we do is publish what we find. Our most used sentence is "Nobody told me I had to find a solution as well". Most of research is simply discovering new problems for others to solve.
(ps, ignore misspellings/errors in this post, Parents came to visit and brought a full bottle of single-malt whiskey, and am pleasantly drunk right now
The only safe place in the world is safe and sound all by your lonesome in your parents' basement.
Here in SA I've got 14cm hunter spiders in my parents basement! Seriously. These things have garden snakes for breakfast, so don't fucking tell me how safe my parents basement is - I only go in there with a team of sherpas and a pack of wolves.
On the plus side, we've very few snakes left.
Is there anything we cannot do?
"Here, grab your ankles, this won't hurt a little bit"
(That is a 100% truthful statement)
And what makes you think that this report would have anything at all to do with reality? I hire an accountant primarily to cook the books in my favour. Any expense report produced will reflect what is in my best interests. The whole point behind hiring sharp accountants is to pay as little tax as possible - any expense report is going to show the maximum possible expense, in order that the tax is reduced. If it is in my favour to pay more tax/less tax to ensure my future monopolistic profits continue, my accountant will be sure to show this (or otherwise, if I so require).
:-)
Don't kid yourself - any report produced by a paid-for-by-company accountant will be whatever the company requires*.
*Unless, of course, the company in question has won the "auditing" lotto