If you're running XP, you can also right-click on "My Computer", click the "advanced" tab, click on "error reporting", and select "disable error reporting".
I'd much, much rather have increased difficulty in corpse recovery and remove the accidental chance of your corpse popping and losing all your items. Not to mention the various lameass stunts that people do to try to get your corpse to pop.
It's not like the penalty for dying in Diablo II softcore is very great anyway. Might as well make dying slightly inconvenient.
First of all, thanks. You're providing a valuable service in illustrating the neocon viewpoint that the Constitution is just ink on a page. I much prefer it when people like yourself just come right out and say the Constitution should be ignored. So, to address your points:
Is the Consitution some kind of Diety or something that cannot be challenged?
No, it can be "challenged". The proper word is "amended". And there is a mechanism to do this:
Article V
"The Congress, whenever two thirds of both houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose amendments to this Constitution, or, on the application of the legislatures of two thirds of the several states, shall call a convention for proposing amendments, which, in either case, shall be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the legislatures of three fourths of the several states, or by conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other mode of ratification may be proposed by the Congress; provided that no amendment which may be made prior to the year one thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any manner affect the first and fourth clauses in the ninth section of the first article; and that no state, without its consent, shall be deprived of its equal suffrage in the Senate. "
Note that the above paragraph nowhere mentions "just ignore the Constitution and make up whatever shit I want the Constitution to mean".
Do you think that it might be possible that if the framers knew how powerful we turned out to be, they might actually lobby the government to help people?
First of all, the framers were far better aware than you of the danger of a very powerful and very arrogant country, since they'd just fought one for a few years. And they made the Constitution so that our freedoms were meant to be preserved in dark and dangerous times, because that is precisely when our freedoms need such protections.
Second, the framers did intend for government to help people, the American people. That's what they called "the general welfare" and what right wing knuckledraggers call "socialism". It amazes me how Bushies and their syncophants want free and fair elections, universal healthcare, and fully funded public schools in Iraq but fight bitterly over the very idea of such in America. Not having any sense of irony must be essential to being a Republican.
Every day I eat, drink, and sh*t politics. And when I'm done with that, I watch the History channel.
All that proves is some people's ignorance is so collossal that no amount of education can help them. Because if you ate, drank, and shat politics, Jack, you probably would have heard of the tenth amendment by now, which is what the posters above were referring to.
I grew up in a small town, with teachers who made the problems with our government well-known. If anyone knows about the principles to which our government was founded, I'm one of them.
I think if I were you I'd call up those teachers and ask for a refund.
But to speak on behalf of the people who created the constitution at THIS DAY is flat-out disrespectful.
Isn't that what you just did? Projection, the favorite game of right wing monkeys everywhere.
If they were alive now, I suppose they would still support slavery, too?
Um, no. That was handled properly, with an amendment. Maybe you missed this one during your extensive constitutional studies?
Amendment XIII
Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
Section 2. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.
and no suffrage for women?
Sorry, that one was a properly done constitutional amendment too. Are you s
You can also check out any video feed of this event and see that it confirms the above picture. The cameras focused on a small group of people in the immediate foreground of the picture. As soon as the camera pulls back to any degree, the crowd thins out dramatically and immediately. Also, note the sparse crowds in the area behind the statue.
Those "crowds" you saw (and where did you see them, if you distrust the conservative media so much?) were a few dozen supporters of the guy that Bush Co. has chosen to lead Iraq in the new colonial era. A guy that hasn't even been in Iraq in about 50 years and who was convicted of bank fraud in Jordan. Should fit right in with Cheney and the rest of President Junior's "bidness" partners.
Amazing how many lies you can fit into such a short message. Did you make those up yourself, or did you just lift them from the AM radio Rush-clone of your choice?
Clinton and Gore could both speak with command off the cuff on any aspect of their administration. Dubya has to use cue cards just to remember what his own policies are, and half the time can't even read them.
Spending billions more on defence would not have stopped the 9/11 attacks. Let me tell you two things that might have.
1. If Bush hadn't thrown out the Hart-Rudman report which specifically warned against the possibility of using airplanes as missiles against American cities and had recommendations to help prevent it. Instead of heeding this report, which was two years in the making, Bush simply threw it all away and said that someday, eventually, he'd get Cheney to do an investigation himself. You'd think Cheney would be busy enough running the government and all.
2. The Pentagon attack could have been prevented if Bush had taken any sort of executive action (like maybe scrambling fighter cover) rather than spending 40 minutes reading a children's story to an elementary classroom. Nice to know we've got such a leader looking out for us. I guess the worst terror attack in history didn't measure up in his list of priorities to a meaningless photo op. Possibly he was waiting for his handlers to tell him what to do. Or maybe he hadn't read the children's book before and was really getting into it.
I like how you claim "liberals" are always blaming others for their problems while in the same sentence blaming "liberals" for the disastrous Bush economy. But that's par for the course for the party that claims to represent personal responsiblity -- blame everything on Clinton.
It's nice how conservatives never have to let worrisome reality intrude on their political theories. Otherwise they'd have to confront the eight years of unprecedented peace and prosperity of the Clinton years that were bookended by two Bush terms of recession, unemployment, deficits, and corruption.
They always portray conservatives in the most forgiving light possible but never shirk from repeating verbatim any off-base allegation a conservative can make about anyone to the left of Tom Delay. To a Rushbot like you that might make them "liberal", I suppose.
The last time I watched CNN it was for about half a minute and that was enough to show their continual conservative bias.
Paula Zahn was talking about the universal disgust and outrage everyone held for the democrats for turning a memorial for a man who dedicated his life to fighting the far right into a rally for fighting the far right.
Her manner was so matter-of-fact, like the democrats had of course sunk to a new low of sleaziness, and everyone agreed with her, and the GOP was just doing their duty in pointing out the depravity of the Democratic party.
Then CNN switched to a shot of Bush posing with a bunch of six year olds in yet another photo op. They didn't do this ironically, pointing out the hypocrisy of a man who uses small children as political props every chance he gets being outraged by the Wellstone memorial. No, they did it with a straight face. There's the great and kind President Bush, playing with children, because he loves them.
Then they switch to another talking head, who calmly declares that while some Democrats have seen fit to criticize President Bush over his continuous fund raising in the face of a looming war, the President has many duties and it's fully within his rights to fund raise as much as he wants.
This is supposedly the most "liberal" news network?
I haven't seen any stories about President Monkey's military desertion or insider trading, either.
How unfortunate. If you were just another mouthy 18 year old dork, your glee at the thought of "kicking the shit" out of people with addictions might be understandable. But since you've been around so long, and learned so little in that time, you're pretty pathetic.
Intervention for addicts is sometimes required. Sadism is not.
You used the word "greenie" seven times, while claiming that it was a word you just added to your vocabulary tonight.
You said that if pollutants can't be reduced to optimal levels, then they shouldn't be reduced at all. What's a 25% reduction in pollution worth compared to the fiscal well-being of heavily polluting companies?
You said that climate research is usually done by crooked scientists trying to milk the system of research dollars. You said such people should find real jobs that "actually produce something". That would be real convenient for all the polluters you champion, wouldn't it?
Why bother with research, just blame it all on volcanoes. Nothing to be done here, folks, move on, and keep on pumping out those pollutants. Don't be taken in by those god damn "greenies" who express concern about the quality of land, air, and water we pass on to the next generation.
So, yes, volcanos spew plenty of greenhouse gasses. I don't have the exact information on hand and I don't have time to search for it right now, but if you jump to google.com and do some honest research I'm sure you can find it for yourself with little trouble.
What happened, was your VCR busted on the day that Rush did his show on volcanoes?
I also loved how you can hardly write a paragraph without bashing "greenies" and then you tell others to not trust those with agendas. That's even funnier than when you posted the link from a consortium of energy companies disproving global warming.
Our climate focus expresses scientific skepticism concerning the potential for catastrophic changes in climate due to humanity's emissions of CO2.
Greening Earth Society is a not-for-profit membership organization comprised of rural electric cooperatives and municipal electric utilities, their fuel suppliers, and thousands of individuals.
Some advice, friend: next time you want to brag about how informed you are on the topic of global warming, try posting some links that aren't from GOP sites and energy utilities. You might want to consider some links from actual scientists. Unless you're of the Limbaugh persuasion and believe that scientists are all liberals with agendas who can't be trusted.
First, they took an open source app, Gnucleus, and repackaged it as their own, adding nothing while actually degrading the software by adding popup ads.
Second, they started banning from their chat room anyone who mentioned this fact and posted the url to Gnucleus.
Now, they're installing scumware in order to control your browser for their own profit even while you're not using Morpheus.
Anyone left who still wants to argue with me about whether or not Music City is a company of degenerate sleazebags? Anyone who still disagrees with me that the proper course of action is to delete Morpheus and install Gnucleus immediately? (at least until something better comes along).
At least she has the balls to sign her name to her opinions, unlike you.
She wrote a great article about the regular ripoffs of musicians by the recording industry which received national attention. What have you done for musicians to measure up to that?
I mean, besides post childish insults anonymously on Slashdot.
But do those other 99% put their names on the code and release it as their own product, or do they just quietly use it for their own purposes without redistribution?
And I bet most of those 99% wouldn't go so far out of the way to actively deny where the code came from as the Morpheus team seems to want to do.
Sure. I agree that "quite technically", as long as they keep their available source current, what Morpheus did was legal. But I never accused them of breaking the GPL, as you and most everyone else in the thread seems to be focusing on.
What I accused them of was being sleazy, deceptive, and utterly undeserving of the loyalty of the "community". In short, of being assholes. After all, there's all kinds of ways to screw someone over and do it legally.
They took the work of someone else, wrote their name on it, and tried to pass it off as their own. They added nothing but spamware. They are actively hostile to the original developers, banning anyone from their server who even mentions their site. They deserve no one's sympathy or good wishes.
If you want to use such software, go with Gnucleus. Go with the people who actually wrote the code and who aren't spamming you with ads.
There's ways to do these things. Mentioning somewhere prominent where you got the code would help. Not instructing your ops to ban anyone from their chat server who mentions Gnucleus would be even better.
It seems pretty clear to me that the Morpheus team has no interest in giving proper credit to the Gnucleus team, that they actually want to do just the opposite -- silence anyone who mentions who wrote the actual code.
It also seems clear to me that there's no reason to use Morpheus anymore. Why should you, when you can use Gnucleus and not have to put up with their ads and popups?
1. They don't give credit to the developers of Gnucleus, who did ALL of the work for their new "version" of Morpheus. They added nothing to the program other than their own popup ads.
2. They kick and ban anyone who mentions Gnucleus from their chat room. This is an active attempt to suppress the fact that they took the code from Gnucleus. It's ungrateful, it's tacky, and it's lame.
I bring up these points because I'm angry about the disrespect shown to the Gnucleus developers and I'm tired of seeing Music City portrayed as a sympathetic company. They're slime.
Oh? You've never been "ripped off" by someone but not had legal recourse because of brinksmanship with the fine print?
"Ripping off" is a subjective term, but I still submit that this is exactly what the Morpheus team did to the Gnucleus team. They took their software, added nothing to it, actually made it worse, and are trying to pass it off as entirely their own work. They did not give proper credit. They did not contact the Gnucleus team. And they actually go to the lengths of banning anyone who brings up Gnucleus from their chat room, in a hamfisted attempt to suppress the truth.
This may not fit the criteria of "ripping off" to you, but it does to me. And it certainly means I don't see the slightest reason to support Morpheus in any of their endeavors. They might not be quite as sleazy as Kazaa, but they're close.
Some of you might not realize the depths of sleaze to which Morpheus has descended. To make their latest "preview version", they took an open source Gnutella client named Gnucleus (http://www.gnucleus.com), added their branding and annoying popup ads, and redistributed it as the new version of Morpheus.
They did not even contact the developers of Gnucleus before they ripped off their software. And they ban anyone from the Music City chat room who even mentions the existence of Gnucleus.
The "developers" of Morpheus are not people who deserve your loyalty or concern. My advice to everyone is to immediately delete Morpheus and and install Gnucleus. It's the same program but without the advertising and popups. And by doing so you'll be showing a little respect to the people who actually wrote the program, rather than the pieces of shit who renamed it and are attempting to pass it off as their own.
Don't think everyone didn't notice that you couldn't say a god damn thing to refute the facts in any one of those articles. Go to the Times article and look at the actual scans of ballots up to six days late and then speak to me of "propaganda". What happened in Florida is not in the realm of opinion, it's in the realm of documented history.
Let me guess: you're one of these people that only believe in the Truth According to Rush?
Uh huh. That's a deft little attempt on your part to ignore the massive election fraud that happened in Florida, without which Bush wouldn't be calling himself President. Further, Florida was the focal point of legal actions by both sides concerning the election, so in the most real sense the election was decided there. You did hear of a little case called Bush vs. Gore, didn't you?
As for "learning something", here's some starters for you.
And then there were all the illegal absentee ballots, some postdated as much as a week after the election, that did get counted.
According to the NORC recount, Gore won under all six possible scenarios for a state wide recount. If you count all the votes, Gore wins. If you don't count all the votes, Bush wins. It's as simple as that.
"Fork" seems to grand a term for just taking someone else's code and adding annoying popup ads to it.
Answer me this: is there ANY reason to use the new Morpheus rather than Gnucleus? Seems to me that Guncleus is just Morpheus without a whole lot of annoying shit added.
By the way, I got booted from the Morpheus chat room about six times yesterday for posting the Gnucleus URL. They seem to think they can supress the fact that they just took the code from Gnucleus and put their own branding info and advertising on it.
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If you're running XP, you can also right-click on "My Computer", click the "advanced" tab, click on "error reporting", and select "disable error reporting".
I'd much, much rather have increased difficulty in corpse recovery and remove the accidental chance of your corpse popping and losing all your items. Not to mention the various lameass stunts that people do to try to get your corpse to pop.
It's not like the penalty for dying in Diablo II softcore is very great anyway. Might as well make dying slightly inconvenient.
First of all, thanks. You're providing a valuable service in illustrating the neocon viewpoint that the Constitution is just ink on a page. I much prefer it when people like yourself just come right out and say the Constitution should be ignored. So, to address your points:
Is the Consitution some kind of Diety or something that cannot be challenged?
No, it can be "challenged". The proper word is "amended". And there is a mechanism to do this:
Article V
"The Congress, whenever two thirds of both houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose amendments to this Constitution, or, on the application of the legislatures of two thirds of the several states, shall call a convention for proposing amendments, which, in either case, shall be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the legislatures of three fourths of the several states, or by conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other mode of ratification may be proposed by the Congress; provided that no amendment which may be made prior to the year one thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any manner affect the first and fourth clauses in the ninth section of the first article; and that no state, without its consent, shall be deprived of its equal suffrage in the Senate. "
Note that the above paragraph nowhere mentions "just ignore the Constitution and make up whatever shit I want the Constitution to mean".
Do you think that it might be possible that if the framers knew how powerful we turned out to be, they might actually lobby the government to help people?
First of all, the framers were far better aware than you of the danger of a very powerful and very arrogant country, since they'd just fought one for a few years. And they made the Constitution so that our freedoms were meant to be preserved in dark and dangerous times, because that is precisely when our freedoms need such protections.
Second, the framers did intend for government to help people, the American people. That's what they called "the general welfare" and what right wing knuckledraggers call "socialism". It amazes me how Bushies and their syncophants want free and fair elections, universal healthcare, and fully funded public schools in Iraq but fight bitterly over the very idea of such in America. Not having any sense of irony must be essential to being a Republican.
Every day I eat, drink, and sh*t politics. And when I'm done with that, I watch the History channel.
All that proves is some people's ignorance is so collossal that no amount of education can help them. Because if you ate, drank, and shat politics, Jack, you probably would have heard of the tenth amendment by now, which is what the posters above were referring to.
I grew up in a small town, with teachers who made the problems with our government well-known. If anyone knows about the principles to which our government was founded, I'm one of them.
I think if I were you I'd call up those teachers and ask for a refund.
But to speak on behalf of the people who created the constitution at THIS DAY is flat-out disrespectful.
Isn't that what you just did? Projection, the favorite game of right wing monkeys everywhere.
If they were alive now, I suppose they would still support slavery, too?
Um, no. That was handled properly, with an amendment. Maybe you missed this one during your extensive constitutional studies?
Amendment XIII
Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
Section 2. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.
and no suffrage for women?
Sorry, that one was a properly done constitutional amendment too. Are you s
Check out this aerial photo of the staged event
You can also check out any video feed of this event and see that it confirms the above picture. The cameras focused on a small group of people in the immediate foreground of the picture. As soon as the camera pulls back to any degree, the crowd thins out dramatically and immediately. Also, note the sparse crowds in the area behind the statue.
Those "crowds" you saw (and where did you see them, if you distrust the conservative media so much?) were a few dozen supporters of the guy that Bush Co. has chosen to lead Iraq in the new colonial era. A guy that hasn't even been in Iraq in about 50 years and who was convicted of bank fraud in Jordan. Should fit right in with Cheney and the rest of President Junior's "bidness" partners.
Amazing how many lies you can fit into such a short message. Did you make those up yourself, or did you just lift them from the AM radio Rush-clone of your choice?
Clinton and Gore could both speak with command off the cuff on any aspect of their administration. Dubya has to use cue cards just to remember what his own policies are, and half the time can't even read them.
P.S. Grow a pair, log in.
Spending billions more on defence would not have stopped the 9/11 attacks. Let me tell you two things that might have.
1. If Bush hadn't thrown out the Hart-Rudman report which specifically warned against the possibility of using airplanes as missiles against American cities and had recommendations to help prevent it. Instead of heeding this report, which was two years in the making, Bush simply threw it all away and said that someday, eventually, he'd get Cheney to do an investigation himself. You'd think Cheney would be busy enough running the government and all.
2. The Pentagon attack could have been prevented if Bush had taken any sort of executive action (like maybe scrambling fighter cover) rather than spending 40 minutes reading a children's story to an elementary classroom. Nice to know we've got such a leader looking out for us. I guess the worst terror attack in history didn't measure up in his list of priorities to a meaningless photo op. Possibly he was waiting for his handlers to tell him what to do. Or maybe he hadn't read the children's book before and was really getting into it.
You must be a conservative, you showed that you have no ability to form a counter argument whatsoever.
The bit about "twisting facts" to "distorted ends" rebutts itself in view of your previous posts. Go back to watching Rush, "geek".
I like how you claim "liberals" are always blaming others for their problems while in the same sentence blaming "liberals" for the disastrous Bush economy. But that's par for the course for the party that claims to represent personal responsiblity -- blame everything on Clinton.
It's nice how conservatives never have to let worrisome reality intrude on their political theories. Otherwise they'd have to confront the eight years of unprecedented peace and prosperity of the Clinton years that were bookended by two Bush terms of recession, unemployment, deficits, and corruption.
They always portray conservatives in the most forgiving light possible but never shirk from repeating verbatim any off-base allegation a conservative can make about anyone to the left of Tom Delay. To a Rushbot like you that might make them "liberal", I suppose.
The last time I watched CNN it was for about half a minute and that was enough to show their continual conservative bias.
Paula Zahn was talking about the universal disgust and outrage everyone held for the democrats for turning a memorial for a man who dedicated his life to fighting the far right into a rally for fighting the far right.
Her manner was so matter-of-fact, like the democrats had of course sunk to a new low of sleaziness, and everyone agreed with her, and the GOP was just doing their duty in pointing out the depravity of the Democratic party.
Then CNN switched to a shot of Bush posing with a bunch of six year olds in yet another photo op. They didn't do this ironically, pointing out the hypocrisy of a man who uses small children as political props every chance he gets being outraged by the Wellstone memorial. No, they did it with a straight face. There's the great and kind President Bush, playing with children, because he loves them.
Then they switch to another talking head, who calmly declares that while some Democrats have seen fit to criticize President Bush over his continuous fund raising in the face of a looming war, the President has many duties and it's fully within his rights to fund raise as much as he wants.
This is supposedly the most "liberal" news network?
I haven't seen any stories about President Monkey's military desertion or insider trading, either.
How unfortunate. If you were just another mouthy 18 year old dork, your glee at the thought of "kicking the shit" out of people with addictions might be understandable. But since you've been around so long, and learned so little in that time, you're pretty pathetic.
Intervention for addicts is sometimes required. Sadism is not.
That was your funniest message yet.
You used the word "greenie" seven times, while claiming that it was a word you just added to your vocabulary tonight.
You said that if pollutants can't be reduced to optimal levels, then they shouldn't be reduced at all. What's a 25% reduction in pollution worth compared to the fiscal well-being of heavily polluting companies?
You said that climate research is usually done by crooked scientists trying to milk the system of research dollars. You said such people should find real jobs that "actually produce something". That would be real convenient for all the polluters you champion, wouldn't it?
Why bother with research, just blame it all on volcanoes. Nothing to be done here, folks, move on, and keep on pumping out those pollutants. Don't be taken in by those god damn "greenies" who express concern about the quality of land, air, and water we pass on to the next generation.
So, yes, volcanos spew plenty of greenhouse gasses. I don't have the exact information on hand and I don't have time to search for it right now, but if you jump to google.com and do some honest research I'm sure you can find it for yourself with little trouble.
What happened, was your VCR busted on the day that Rush did his show on volcanoes?
I also loved how you can hardly write a paragraph without bashing "greenies" and then you tell others to not trust those with agendas. That's even funnier than when you posted the link from a consortium of energy companies disproving global warming.
Uninformed ass. Interesting choice of words.
Your first two links were from a right wing front group dedicated to, among other things, printing anything to deny that global warming exists.
Your third link was from the "Reagan Information Exchange". Same deal.
Your fourth link was the funniest of all. It was from an outfit called the "Greening Earth Society".
Here's a bit from their About Us page:
Our climate focus expresses scientific skepticism concerning the potential for catastrophic changes in climate due to humanity's emissions of CO2.
Greening Earth Society is a not-for-profit membership organization comprised of rural electric cooperatives and municipal electric utilities, their fuel suppliers, and thousands of individuals.
Some advice, friend: next time you want to brag about how informed you are on the topic of global warming, try posting some links that aren't from GOP sites and energy utilities. You might want to consider some links from actual scientists. Unless you're of the Limbaugh persuasion and believe that scientists are all liberals with agendas who can't be trusted.
Oh? Opinions are proprietary now? Once someone expresses one, no one else can have the same?
Those read like different articles to me. Many of the same points, but hardly an example of plagiarism.
First, they took an open source app, Gnucleus, and repackaged it as their own, adding nothing while actually degrading the software by adding popup ads.
Second, they started banning from their chat room anyone who mentioned this fact and posted the url to Gnucleus.
Now, they're installing scumware in order to control your browser for their own profit even while you're not using Morpheus.
Anyone left who still wants to argue with me about whether or not Music City is a company of degenerate sleazebags? Anyone who still disagrees with me that the proper course of action is to delete Morpheus and install Gnucleus immediately? (at least until something better comes along).
At least she has the balls to sign her name to her opinions, unlike you.
She wrote a great article about the regular ripoffs of musicians by the recording industry which received national attention. What have you done for musicians to measure up to that?
I mean, besides post childish insults anonymously on Slashdot.
But do those other 99% put their names on the code and release it as their own product, or do they just quietly use it for their own purposes without redistribution?
And I bet most of those 99% wouldn't go so far out of the way to actively deny where the code came from as the Morpheus team seems to want to do.
Sure. I agree that "quite technically", as long as they keep their available source current, what Morpheus did was legal. But I never accused them of breaking the GPL, as you and most everyone else in the thread seems to be focusing on.
What I accused them of was being sleazy, deceptive, and utterly undeserving of the loyalty of the "community". In short, of being assholes. After all, there's all kinds of ways to screw someone over and do it legally.
They took the work of someone else, wrote their name on it, and tried to pass it off as their own. They added nothing but spamware. They are actively hostile to the original developers, banning anyone from their server who even mentions their site. They deserve no one's sympathy or good wishes.
If you want to use such software, go with Gnucleus. Go with the people who actually wrote the code and who aren't spamming you with ads.
There's ways to do these things. Mentioning somewhere prominent where you got the code would help. Not instructing your ops to ban anyone from their chat server who mentions Gnucleus would be even better.
It seems pretty clear to me that the Morpheus team has no interest in giving proper credit to the Gnucleus team, that they actually want to do just the opposite -- silence anyone who mentions who wrote the actual code.
It also seems clear to me that there's no reason to use Morpheus anymore. Why should you, when you can use Gnucleus and not have to put up with their ads and popups?
There's two things that make them pieces of shit.
1. They don't give credit to the developers of Gnucleus, who did ALL of the work for their new "version" of Morpheus. They added nothing to the program other than their own popup ads.
2. They kick and ban anyone who mentions Gnucleus from their chat room. This is an active attempt to suppress the fact that they took the code from Gnucleus. It's ungrateful, it's tacky, and it's lame.
I bring up these points because I'm angry about the disrespect shown to the Gnucleus developers and I'm tired of seeing Music City portrayed as a sympathetic company. They're slime.
Oh? You've never been "ripped off" by someone but not had legal recourse because of brinksmanship with the fine print?
"Ripping off" is a subjective term, but I still submit that this is exactly what the Morpheus team did to the Gnucleus team. They took their software, added nothing to it, actually made it worse, and are trying to pass it off as entirely their own work. They did not give proper credit. They did not contact the Gnucleus team. And they actually go to the lengths of banning anyone who brings up Gnucleus from their chat room, in a hamfisted attempt to suppress the truth.
This may not fit the criteria of "ripping off" to you, but it does to me. And it certainly means I don't see the slightest reason to support Morpheus in any of their endeavors. They might not be quite as sleazy as Kazaa, but they're close.
There's a name missing in this debate: Gnucleus.
Some of you might not realize the depths of sleaze to which Morpheus has descended. To make their latest "preview version", they took an open source Gnutella client named Gnucleus (http://www.gnucleus.com), added their branding and annoying popup ads, and redistributed it as the new version of Morpheus.
They did not even contact the developers of Gnucleus before they ripped off their software. And they ban anyone from the Music City chat room who even mentions the existence of Gnucleus.
The "developers" of Morpheus are not people who deserve your loyalty or concern. My advice to everyone is to immediately delete Morpheus and and install Gnucleus. It's the same program but without the advertising and popups. And by doing so you'll be showing a little respect to the people who actually wrote the program, rather than the pieces of shit who renamed it and are attempting to pass it off as their own.
Don't think everyone didn't notice that you couldn't say a god damn thing to refute the facts in any one of those articles. Go to the Times article and look at the actual scans of ballots up to six days late and then speak to me of "propaganda". What happened in Florida is not in the realm of opinion, it's in the realm of documented history.
Let me guess: you're one of these people that only believe in the Truth According to Rush?
Uh huh. That's a deft little attempt on your part to ignore the massive election fraud that happened in Florida, without which Bush wouldn't be calling himself President. Further, Florida was the focal point of legal actions by both sides concerning the election, so in the most real sense the election was decided there. You did hear of a little case called Bush vs. Gore, didn't you?
As for "learning something", here's some starters for you.
1.58 million votes were never recounted even once.
There were also a lot of people who lost their right to vote because they were wrongly labelled as felons by a private company Kathryn Harris hired to scrub the voters lists.
And then there were all the illegal absentee ballots, some postdated as much as a week after the election, that did get counted.
According to the NORC recount, Gore won under all six possible scenarios for a state wide recount. If you count all the votes, Gore wins. If you don't count all the votes, Bush wins. It's as simple as that.
"Fork" seems to grand a term for just taking someone else's code and adding annoying popup ads to it.
Answer me this: is there ANY reason to use the new Morpheus rather than Gnucleus? Seems to me that Guncleus is just Morpheus without a whole lot of annoying shit added.
By the way, I got booted from the Morpheus chat room about six times yesterday for posting the Gnucleus URL. They seem to think they can supress the fact that they just took the code from Gnucleus and put their own branding info and advertising on it.