Does this aggravate people with no foreign language competence that much that this sort of post should be entirely forbidden, or should it be encouraged as being a valuable contribution to the inter-cultural communication aspect of the Internet?
I wouldn't mind anything in German, but also would agree to see the occasional article in any other language. Maybe I get motivated to learn it, and almost any reason to learn a language is a good one.
(I'm currently learning svenska because my favorite movie is from Sverige and I want to understand it undubbed.)
Anyway, most Articles from Heise get karmawhored very quickly. This one is no exception.
Klar, AFCErzgemein ist einer der schlechtesten Kommentatoren bei Slashpunkt (nach tyronefine), aber mir wird schlecht bei all diesen US-Amerikanern, die denken, daß die Welt in Washington beginnt und in DC endet, und die andere Länder nur wahrnehmen, wenn sie gerade von US-Truppen angegriffen werden.
Wenn Dich darüber ärgerst, daß Du eine Sprache nicht beherrschst, dann lerne sie und hör auf zu jammern.
Ilka Schröder, Member of the European Parliament, today at 10:00 filed suit at the Generalbundesanwalt [attorney general] and the public prosecutors in Traunstein and Berlin against Echelon. The suit was filed against "unknown person or persons, especially from the USA or the UK and, if appropriate, the [German] Federal Government for operating and tolerating the espionage system ECHELON."
Schröder refers to reports from Duncan Campell and articles in Telepolis. Her juristic lever for calling the Generalbundesanwalt is his responsibility for the prosecution of certain violation against the 'Bill
for Protection of Patents, Registered Designs and Semiconductors'. Schröder suggests in her charge, which is available to Telepolis, that "the bill is apparently violated by the reported acts of industrial espionage of the
suspects"
As Schröder told Telepolis earlier today, she filed suit to "raise the discussion about Echelon to a different political level". The inquiry in the Non-permanent Commission of the European Parliament taking place since last week is "not targetted enough", according to Schröder.
(Author: Christiane Schulzki-Haddouti)
Telepolis is Heise's "net culture magazine" with a larger article about it. MP Schröder's Homepage has a homepage.
One of my favorite things about my new LEJENDARY ADVENTURE game system is that players can select skills so that it is really easy to create characters that "fit the bill" in regards to a well-balanced and potent adventuring party.
Well, his description of LA sounds like he finally, after all this years, catched up with RPG development. It's sorry to hear though that he thinks he's original.
In fact, I think that the original D&D spoiled RPGs for years by convincing people that an RPG would need character classes, experience levels or hit points.
The reels that are being projected in European theaters right now are actually the same strips of film that were shown in American theaters this summer.
Wrong. The sound is stored optically.
The cost of film duplication is a substantial chunk of the post-production budget of a movie.
DEM 2000 for Titanic (quite long), IIRC. Which is peanuts; one show in a large cinema will cover that.
SAP geht nach OffenQuelle
According to c't sources, SAP will announce tomorrow at LinuxWorld in Frankfurt that they will put their database SAP DB under GPL resp. LGPL. Until now, the SQL database is primary used in connection with the flag ship of the Waldorf company, the inventory control system SAP R3.
R3 offers also interfaces for other databases like Informix, Oracle oder DB2. SAP DB is the first substantial software project released by SAP as source code.
So you basically saying that because the USA will put out most of the money, it should be built in the open countryside? That the infrastructure in Guiana should be ignored because, help me God, some bloody foreigners would participate or even benefit?
Looking at the equatorial slice, you have Central and the northern part of South America. That's close to the US, but the only country in that area that sounds somewhat reasaonable is Venezuela.
I wonder whether your ignorance is based on the usual US-centric world-view or is just bad map-reading skill. The obvious choice, if you look for a place near the equator is the European Space Center in French Guiana.
Boy, you would certainly need some edu, taining or not.
Hitler was silenced and censored before, but unfortunately this did not work.
I hardly know where to start, so let's just take two facts, early and late in Hitler's career in the Weimarer Republik:
1. Hitler was involved an attempt to overthrow the republican government in Munich. He served nine month.
2. Hitler was brought to power 1933 by a powerful conservative group, the Reichspräsident and a majority of votes.
One of the major obstructions on Hitler's raise to power that did not happen was resistance from the Republik.
Whether it is "right or wrong" or not I wear an SS belt buckle in remembrance of him.
It's right for the reason you do it, but it's wrong because it can offend someone whose father was shot in the back of the neck by an SS man, while laying on the ground of a pit he was forced to dig.
A few years ago, I would've praised anything that would be bad for nazis. Since then, I learned to appreciate the view of many US citizens: That Free Speech is more important than anything else.
I'm sure there will be posts cursing all limitaions on Free Speech and praising the American Way. The American Way also includes quite an amount of ignorance of anything beyond US borders.
This matter is of course not so simple. In Germany, where we again had very recently some attacks from nazis on foreigners, a very similar discussion is going on: What should happen with domains like 'www.heil-hitler.de'? Should nazi webpages be banned and how? Should the major organizational backbone be outlawed?
IANAL, but basis for this discussion are laws banning agitating against minorities, anti-constitutional organizations and display of their symbols (i.e. swastikas).
This in turn is based on the fact that the Grundgesetz (the constitution) is self-protecting: While you can change most parts, the very basic things (highest regard for Human Dignity and Human Rights, Democracy, Federalism, Constitutionality, Division of Powers and the Right to Resist) are immutable. Thus, nazis are proven wrong and can be prosecuted.
Arrogant? The Founding Fathers and Mothers (led by former Zentrum big shot and later Chancellor Konrad Adenauer) were just fed up with democracies crumbling under their very hands for no good reason. So no, they were not arrogant, only self-confident and ready to act against the possible will of the people for the probable good of the people.
We had an opportunity to make a major revision when Germany reunited; we passed. 'We' passed probably because the politicians were afraid to lose power (and thus didn't start to organize the process), but I'm happy as it is. The risk is too high, the gain too low.
Don't assume that nazis are a threatened species in Germany. In fact, certain small parts in the five new Länder are called 'National befreite Zonen' and seem to be very much in their power. Only when xenophobic attacks happen, everyone cries for steps to be taken. (Compare this to the events 1977, when far less threw the country in turmoil.)
Off-topic? Hardly. Of course, the French have their own laws, their very own constitution, certainly their own reasons to be paranoid about nazism, but both countries share some experiences. (In fact, while I mostly detest everything Adenauer stands for, the peace between Germany and France, not ten years after a century of vicious wars between them, is one of the most outstanding acts of statemanship I know about.)
Moral? Perhaps that it is a good thing to learn something from other peoples dirty past.
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Personally, I think meaning 1(a) is too broad You're funny. That's just the difference between democracy and republic.
would you really argue that Nazi Germany was a republic No, because it was focused on one person. The Roman Republic was, and AFAIK never claimed to be a democracy.
How the hell can nature have wisdom? If not, how the hell can humans? I did call it wisdom for lack of a better word. The last millions of years, earth was full of life, building a structure even major catastrophies could not shatter. Humans OTOH kill dozens of species per day. The abstract value describing this difference, I called wisdom.
As is completely natural. This is completly beside it. It's stupid, and it lessens the chance of survival of everyone. Motivator is basically a bunch of economic rules that demand innovation, regardless of its intrinsic value. With this in mind and the incalculable risks of geneering, it should not be released in any way before it's proven without doubt (reasonable or not) that it's harmless.
While Nature's wisdom provided humanity with enough brain to weather anything natural thrown at them [ . . . ] This statement is patently false. Nature didn't give much help to the Native Americans when they were introduced to smallpox. I was talking about humanity, not about part of it. Anyway, was smallpox not introduced by some European?
As is completely natural. You think I eat flowers? I do not fucking care whether it's natural or from Krypton, wiping life off the planet is just not cool.
Have you considered that the world is changing and perhaps you are just resistant to that change? Yep. I came to the conclusion that I like change.
You're just one of the people who "sees" a future and doesn't like it. Likewise there are people here who see the same future and like it. How many people would you expect, who like a world riddled with deseases, old and new, where China's oppressive government is as dominant as US' oppressive (but PC) government is today and a single clever nanoscientist can change the biosphere into a ceramic shell in a few days? Obviously, the problem is not about judgment. I don't claim to know the future, I only claim to see risks, much larger ones than the risks posed by nuclear weapons.
Everything we experience is entirely natural. So is tetraodontoxin. Help yourself.
Regarding your statement about Bill Gates, it's important for us all to recognize that he got his money through luck, not skill or hard work. So what?
Regarding your statement about starving children, people should not have children that they cannot afford to raise. People should not utterly annihilate a continents people and structures, as WASPs' ancestors (in a social, not racial sense) did in Africa. To now blame Africans for the consequences is beyond words.
What I'm interested in is why people freak out when you concider applying this to your kids.
I don't think that any human or group of humans has Nature's wisdom. Most humans are stupid most of the time and more important, extremely shortsighted. Take antibiotics. TV commercials hereabout are full of antibiotic stuff, inevitably producing immune strains. At least two cases of untreatable infections have already occured (Japan and USA, not Rwanda and Bangladesh) and physicians predict a post-antibiotic age.
While Nature's wisdom provided humanity with enough brain to weather anything natural thrown at them, their own inventions are different. Genetics and nanotechnology are easily capable of wiping life off the planet, even in tiny doses. The sheer arrogance of scientist claiming to 'improve' stuff in days that is millions of years old is sickening.
Social acpect are also important, but I don't feel inclined right now to discuss social aspects in a world where Bill Gates owns about $10,000,000 for every children starving every day.
Having read some of your answers I want to give some myself:
1. US stock market will not crash major, it will vanish. 2. The US of A will be instant rogue nation for everyone. (So NATO has to nuke them?) 3. EU is of course aware of the situation and has plans about it. (That's just the bs what-if Germans would love to prepare for.) 4. China will probably be the big winner. (Taiwan will be down in hours.)
It will only happen if the USA will declare and do war on every major nation in the world. Any other case, they're fucked up.
... with Staroffice as I see it is that it's one huge application.
That will change, too. According to Heise, "(...) sollen die Module wie Textverarbeitung oder Tabellenkalkulation optional nicht mehr unter dem eigenen Desktop, sondern wieder als einzelne Applikationen laufen. Diese Version soll als Grundlage für die weitere Entwicklung dienen." (For the ungermaned: "The different modules like text processor or spreadsheet will optionally run not with StarOffice' desktop, but as stand-alone applications. This version will be the base for further development.")
Another important issue is the gplization of StarOffice' application framework, probably based on what was formerly known as StarBase.
Slashdot Mirror
DISCLAIMER: If you aren't American and don't have anything to say that would contribute to the discussion, please don't say anything at all.
So you have to be either American or have something useful to say. That explains a lot of comments you read about non-US topics.
Does this aggravate people with no foreign language competence that much that this sort of post should be entirely forbidden, or should it be encouraged as being a valuable contribution to the inter-cultural communication aspect of the Internet?
I wouldn't mind anything in German, but also would agree to see the occasional article in any other language. Maybe I get motivated to learn it, and almost any reason to learn a language is a good one.
(I'm currently learning svenska because my favorite movie is from Sverige and I want to understand it undubbed.)
Anyway, most Articles from Heise get karmawhored very quickly. This one is no exception.
Ach das.
Deutsch ist es nur, weil ich das am besten kann und nicht englisch ist.
Klar, AFCErzgemein ist einer der schlechtesten Kommentatoren bei Slashpunkt (nach tyronefine), aber mir wird schlecht bei all diesen US-Amerikanern, die denken, daß die Welt in Washington beginnt und in DC endet, und die andere Länder nur wahrnehmen, wenn sie gerade von US-Truppen angegriffen werden.
Wenn Dich darüber ärgerst, daß Du eine Sprache nicht beherrschst, dann lerne sie und hör auf zu jammern.
It's interesting to note that he's just 22 and he's taking on his government
She's a girl. Probably even a grrrl.
Ilka Schröder, Member of the European Parliament, today at 10:00 filed suit at the Generalbundesanwalt [attorney general] and the public prosecutors in Traunstein and Berlin against Echelon. The suit was filed against "unknown person or persons, especially from the USA or the UK and, if appropriate, the [German] Federal Government for operating and tolerating the espionage system ECHELON."
Schröder refers to reports from Duncan Campell and articles in Telepolis. Her juristic lever for calling the Generalbundesanwalt is his responsibility for the prosecution of certain violation against the 'Bill for Protection of Patents, Registered Designs and Semiconductors'. Schröder suggests in her charge, which is available to Telepolis, that "the bill is apparently violated by the reported acts of industrial espionage of the suspects"
As Schröder told Telepolis earlier today, she filed suit to "raise the discussion about Echelon to a different political level". The inquiry in the Non-permanent Commission of the European Parliament taking place since last week is "not targetted enough", according to Schröder.
(Author: Christiane Schulzki-Haddouti)
Telepolis is Heise's "net culture magazine" with a larger article about it. MP Schröder's Homepage has a homepage.
One of my favorite things about my new LEJENDARY ADVENTURE game system is that players can select skills so that it is really easy to create characters that "fit the bill" in regards to a well-balanced and potent adventuring party.
Well, his description of LA sounds like he finally, after all this years, catched up with RPG development. It's sorry to hear though that he thinks he's original.
In fact, I think that the original D&D spoiled RPGs for years by convincing people that an RPG would need character classes, experience levels or hit points.
Okay, people can stop submitting this now.
If more submissions are coming in, Hemos may be the one editing it.
1. Hackmaster
Irreplaceable. Get it and pay the guy.
2. DateBk3
My Bread & Butter app. It's a Datebook/Todo replacement with lots of very useful stuff. There's also a DateBk4.
3. Commute
Bus schedules
4. QED
Doc reader/editor
5. OnBoard C
If your're into coding for fun, this is a refreshing experience.
6. TextPlus
Frequency-based word and phrase suggestion in any Plam application
7. PopUp Favorites
8. PopUp Calculator
Extremly useful helper apps. One is to switch tasks, the other is a small yet powerful calulator.
9. Font Hack & Alpha-NX
FontHack allows you to choose your own fonts, selectable for each app you have installed.
Alpha-NX is small but very readable.
10. TapPad
Adds some nice features to your Graffiti area.
a. SpadeLover Spades
b. Rally 1000
Games. Don't miss them
The reels that are being projected in European theaters right now are actually the same strips of film that were shown in American theaters this summer.
Wrong. The sound is stored optically.
The cost of film duplication is a substantial chunk of the post-production budget of a movie.
DEM 2000 for Titanic (quite long), IIRC. Which is peanuts; one show in a large cinema will cover that.
SAP geht nach OffenQuelle
According to c't sources, SAP will announce tomorrow at LinuxWorld in Frankfurt that they will put their database SAP DB under GPL resp. LGPL. Until now, the SQL database is primary used in connection with the flag ship of the Waldorf company, the inventory control system SAP R3. R3 offers also interfaces for other databases like Informix, Oracle oder DB2. SAP DB is the first substantial software project released by SAP as source code.
Big, incredibly expensive global projects are usually funded more by American money than anyone else's.
Like, say, the United Nations?
So you basically saying that because the USA will put out most of the money, it should be built in the open countryside? That the infrastructure in Guiana should be ignored because, help me God, some bloody foreigners would participate or even benefit?
Looking at the equatorial slice, you have Central and the northern part of South America. That's close to the US, but the only country in that area that sounds somewhat reasaonable is Venezuela.
I wonder whether your ignorance is based on the usual US-centric world-view or is just bad map-reading skill. The obvious choice, if you look for a place near the equator is the European Space Center in French Guiana.
Boy, you would certainly need some edu, taining or not.
Hitler was silenced and censored before, but unfortunately this did not work.
I hardly know where to start, so let's just take two facts, early and late in Hitler's career in the Weimarer Republik:
1. Hitler was involved an attempt to overthrow the republican government in Munich. He served nine month.
2. Hitler was brought to power 1933 by a powerful conservative group, the Reichspräsident and a majority of votes.
One of the major obstructions on Hitler's raise to power that did not happen was resistance from the Republik.
('Insightful', my ass)
Whether it is "right or wrong" or not I wear an SS belt buckle in remembrance of him.
It's right for the reason you do it, but it's wrong because it can offend someone whose father was shot in the back of the neck by an SS man, while laying on the ground of a pit he was forced to dig.
A few years ago, I would've praised anything that would be bad for nazis. Since then, I learned to appreciate the view of many US citizens: That Free Speech is more important than anything else.
I'm sure there will be posts cursing all limitaions on Free Speech and praising the American Way. The American Way also includes quite an amount of ignorance of anything beyond US borders.
This matter is of course not so simple. In Germany, where we again had very recently some attacks from nazis on foreigners, a very similar discussion is going on: What should happen with domains like 'www.heil-hitler.de'? Should nazi webpages be banned and how? Should the major organizational backbone be outlawed?
IANAL, but basis for this discussion are laws banning agitating against minorities, anti-constitutional organizations and display of their symbols (i.e. swastikas).
This in turn is based on the fact that the Grundgesetz (the constitution) is self-protecting: While you can change most parts, the very basic things (highest regard for Human Dignity and Human Rights, Democracy, Federalism, Constitutionality, Division of Powers and the Right to Resist) are immutable. Thus, nazis are proven wrong and can be prosecuted.
Arrogant? The Founding Fathers and Mothers (led by former Zentrum big shot and later Chancellor Konrad Adenauer) were just fed up with democracies crumbling under their very hands for no good reason. So no, they were not arrogant, only self-confident and ready to act against the possible will of the people for the probable good of the people.
We had an opportunity to make a major revision when Germany reunited; we passed. 'We' passed probably because the politicians were afraid to lose power (and thus didn't start to organize the process), but I'm happy as it is. The risk is too high, the gain too low.
Don't assume that nazis are a threatened species in Germany. In fact, certain small parts in the five new Länder are called 'National befreite Zonen' and seem to be very much in their power. Only when xenophobic attacks happen, everyone cries for steps to be taken. (Compare this to the events 1977, when far less threw the country in turmoil.)
Off-topic? Hardly. Of course, the French have their own laws, their very own constitution, certainly their own reasons to be paranoid about nazism, but both countries share some experiences. (In fact, while I mostly detest everything Adenauer stands for, the peace between Germany and France, not ten years after a century of vicious wars between them, is one of the most outstanding acts of statemanship I know about.)
Moral? Perhaps that it is a good thing to learn something from other peoples dirty past.
Personally, I think meaning 1(a) is too broad
You're funny. That's just the difference between democracy and republic.
would you really argue that Nazi Germany was a republic
No, because it was focused on one person. The Roman Republic was, and AFAIK never claimed to be a democracy.
National Security State
Great naming. Thanks.
How the hell can nature have wisdom?
If not, how the hell can humans?
I did call it wisdom for lack of a better word. The last millions of years, earth was full of life, building a structure even major catastrophies could not shatter. Humans OTOH kill dozens of species per day. The abstract value describing this difference, I called wisdom.
As is completely natural.
This is completly beside it. It's stupid, and it lessens the chance of survival of everyone. Motivator is basically a bunch of economic rules that demand innovation, regardless of its intrinsic value.
With this in mind and the incalculable risks of geneering, it should not be released in any way before it's proven without doubt (reasonable or not) that it's harmless.
While Nature's wisdom provided humanity with enough brain to weather anything natural thrown at them [ . . . ]
This statement is patently false. Nature didn't give much help to the Native Americans when they were introduced to smallpox.
I was talking about humanity, not about part of it. Anyway, was smallpox not introduced by some European?
As is completely natural.
You think I eat flowers? I do not fucking care whether it's natural or from Krypton, wiping life off the planet is just not cool.
Have you considered that the world is changing and perhaps you are just resistant to that change?
Yep. I came to the conclusion that I like change.
You're just one of the people who "sees" a future and doesn't like it. Likewise there are people here who see the same future and like it.
How many people would you expect, who like a world riddled with deseases, old and new, where China's oppressive government is as dominant as US' oppressive (but PC) government is today and a single clever nanoscientist can change the biosphere into a ceramic shell in a few days?
Obviously, the problem is not about judgment. I don't claim to know the future, I only claim to see risks, much larger ones than the risks posed by nuclear weapons.
Everything we experience is entirely natural.
So is tetraodontoxin. Help yourself.
Regarding your statement about Bill Gates, it's important for us all to recognize that he got his money through luck, not skill or hard work.
So what?
Regarding your statement about starving children, people should not have children that they cannot afford to raise.
People should not utterly annihilate a continents people and structures, as WASPs' ancestors (in a social, not racial sense) did in Africa. To now blame Africans for the consequences is beyond words.
...according to a Samsung guy at the CeBIT.
I don't know why everyone and his mother is waiting for this crap.
What I'm interested in is why people freak out when you concider applying this to your kids.
I don't think that any human or group of humans has Nature's wisdom. Most humans are stupid most of the time and more important, extremely shortsighted.
Take antibiotics. TV commercials hereabout are full of antibiotic stuff, inevitably producing immune strains. At least two cases of untreatable infections have already occured (Japan and USA, not Rwanda and Bangladesh) and physicians predict a post-antibiotic age.
While Nature's wisdom provided humanity with enough brain to weather anything natural thrown at them, their own inventions are different. Genetics and nanotechnology are easily capable of wiping life off the planet, even in tiny doses. The sheer arrogance of scientist claiming to 'improve' stuff in days that is millions of years old is sickening.
Social acpect are also important, but I don't feel inclined right now to discuss social aspects in a world where Bill Gates owns about $10,000,000 for every children starving every day.
Having read some of your answers I want to give some myself:
1. US stock market will not crash major, it will vanish.
2. The US of A will be instant rogue nation for everyone. (So NATO has to nuke them?)
3. EU is of course aware of the situation and has plans about it. (That's just the bs what-if Germans would love to prepare for.)
4. China will probably be the big winner. (Taiwan will be down in hours.)
It will only happen if the USA will declare and do war on every major nation in the world. Any other case, they're fucked up.
... with Staroffice as I see it is that it's one huge application.
That will change, too. According to Heise, "(...) sollen die Module wie Textverarbeitung oder Tabellenkalkulation optional nicht mehr unter dem eigenen Desktop, sondern wieder als einzelne Applikationen laufen. Diese Version soll als Grundlage für die weitere Entwicklung dienen."
(For the ungermaned: "The different modules like text processor or spreadsheet will optionally run not with StarOffice' desktop, but as stand-alone applications. This version will be the base for further development.")
Another important issue is the gplization of StarOffice' application framework, probably based on what was formerly known as StarBase.
Take the next step. If I buy the shampoo, I can split and sell (at least in Germany), because I'm not bound by whatever my dealer agreed to.