How can we ever run out of time to take in personal services? An economy where each of us spend half our time providing personal services and half consuming personal services (from one other person at a time) is quite viable (if robots are doing the rest) and we're quite a ways down that path already today.
I don't have infinite free time. I have to choose what I spend my time and money on, and most of it is just the same old necessities of life: Food, shelter, health care. Then there's the stuff I need to keep making money to keep getting the necessities of life: Transportation, communications, tools. I have limited time for non-necessary "personal services." You admit that we're almost at the point where all our free time is occupied. So how would you *not* run out of time to take in personal services? I can't play MMOs or chat with personal shoppers in my sleep. And even if I didn't have to sleep, that would only buy so much time. My free time is much closer to its limit than the number of unemployed people hoping to sell personal services would be to zero.
It's well understood that people don't much value things given to them, compared to how they value things they earned. I'm not sure why you'd question that.
I'm not questioning that, but its connection to the idea that people will become destructive if they don't have to work is tenuous at best.
If we're talking experiments, learn the secret of NIMH:[...]
Regarding the NIMH experiments, they're completely irrelevant since people are more intelligent than rats AND have different behaviors. Educated humans with better access to resources reproduce LESS not more. So you'd expect something like the opposite of the outcome seen with rats.
Our mental wellbeing requires real challenges to measure ourselves against and lend a sense of purpose to life.
Who said that the concept of challenge would disappear if there were no need to work? For me, my "mental wellbeing" and "purpose in life" don't come from grinding away in a cubicle on mundane business software, even on the odd occasions when it does present a challenge.
I know there are some people who, for reasons that are far beyond my understanding, feel the need to have work pushed upon them and say they'd "be bored to death" or "go insane" if they didn't have any tasks put upon them by outside parties, and are somehow incapable of finding ways to occupy their own time. There won't be a complete lack of work needed for a very long time, but if there were, it wouldn't be terribly difficult to accommodate such people, through artificial work programs to simulate capitalism at the worst. But I think therapy would be much more humane and beneficial to such people.
Who says anything will change *at all*, why would they need to do even a practically cosmetic reorganization? We don't know what goes on inside the NSA. Nothing they say can be trusted. Leaks are the most trustworthy source of info on what the NSA is doing.
What happens when we run out of time to take in these personal services? Only so many hours in a day, even if you do find a way to avoid sleeping. And if people continue to spend most of their adult lives working, it won't take much at all to hit that limit.
Paying people to do nothing, OTOH, could bring down society if the past is any guide - when people don't have a stake in building things, they tend to spend their time destroying them.
Citation fucking needed (be sure to look up the Dauphin experiment while you're at it).
Approaching that destructive feedback loop though, it can be very nasty for everyone who's not super-rich, while some remain super-rich, and it's not a fine line. It's a wide area we can wallow in for a long time, and we're in it now. Even a few very rich people are starting to realize that - not that they want to stop it for any altruistic reason, they just don't want to see the inside of that destructive feedback loop.
How does Manna's utopia ignore that people like to control and hurt each other? It glosses over a few problems but those aren't among them. Or are you saying that the system which prevents people from controlling and hurting each other could never be put into place because of those tendencies? It wouldn't be the first time society made progress, we don't call people witches and burn them anymore...
The Manna system is just about fully practical and possible right now. Look at Amazon's warehouse cart system, it's like a very early version of it. Computer vision is the only area that isn't good enough to match what's described in the novel, but is that really a show-stopper? With the hardware needed on the brink of being available off the shelf in a convenient self-contained unit, I'm surprised no Silly Valley libertarian who has no idea that he's a sociopath hasn't developed it yet. It's not like there aren't enough qualified people.
"Tell us how you feel. If you have any criticisms you've been bottling up, then please write about them in journals, or better yet discuss them with your friends over an electronic communications medium. We'd hate to go unaware of any people with 'interesting' viewpoints." - The NSA.
Being good at attacking is about success not attempts. Same with being good at defense. I would have expected the NSA to have an IDS system that operated much like a whitelist for all but their attack systems.
Since we can never trust anything the NSA says, they might as well be making this up. And since they might as well be making this up, why not be more creative?
Might as well copy the plot of Die Hard 4, that's what I had in mind when I read the article title. And wouldn't this attack require specific code for each model of computer mainboard in existence? I don't think it would get far before instructions for enabling BIOS write protection were being spread through the media anyway.
NSA considered the possibility that Snowden left malicious software behind and removed every computer and cable that Snowden had access to from its classified network, costing tens of millions of dollars.
The fact that they think such an attack could take place and that their best defense would be to take every piece of equipment that could be tainted and kill it with fire tells me that the NSA's IDS systems are extremely weak, its NIDS especially. I think this is the first bit of news that compromises security at the NSA, and they admitted it willingly. Sounds like the NSA is VASTLY better at attack than defense, which apparently consists of carefully screening everything that's allowed on their network (down to their TEMPEST-proof HQ) and then crossing their fingers.
That's not their official policy. I'm not saying there's no racial profiling going on, I don't know if there is and I wouldn't be too surprised if there was...but that's not their official policy.
I didn't jump to that conclusion, I took it from the context of the rest of the discussion and even your own post (profiling based on appearance, which isn't part of behavioral profiling). If you were referring to behavioral profiling specifically then you're right but you should be more clear about that.
The Israelis DO NOT have an official policy of racial profiling. They use behavioral profiling.
And they are very serious about security, I doubt they'd do something as stupid and counterproductive as racial profiling. If they're really good, anyone suspected to be doing so on the lowdown would be warned and eventually sacked.
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...I don't think the death of privacy and commercialization of human relationships was worth it.
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How can we ever run out of time to take in personal services? An economy where each of us spend half our time providing personal services and half consuming personal services (from one other person at a time) is quite viable (if robots are doing the rest) and we're quite a ways down that path already today.
I don't have infinite free time. I have to choose what I spend my time and money on, and most of it is just the same old necessities of life: Food, shelter, health care. Then there's the stuff I need to keep making money to keep getting the necessities of life: Transportation, communications, tools. I have limited time for non-necessary "personal services." You admit that we're almost at the point where all our free time is occupied. So how would you *not* run out of time to take in personal services? I can't play MMOs or chat with personal shoppers in my sleep. And even if I didn't have to sleep, that would only buy so much time. My free time is much closer to its limit than the number of unemployed people hoping to sell personal services would be to zero.
It's well understood that people don't much value things given to them, compared to how they value things they earned. I'm not sure why you'd question that.
I'm not questioning that, but its connection to the idea that people will become destructive if they don't have to work is tenuous at best.
If we're talking experiments, learn the secret of NIMH:[...]
Regarding the NIMH experiments, they're completely irrelevant since people are more intelligent than rats AND have different behaviors. Educated humans with better access to resources reproduce LESS not more. So you'd expect something like the opposite of the outcome seen with rats.
Our mental wellbeing requires real challenges to measure ourselves against and lend a sense of purpose to life.
Who said that the concept of challenge would disappear if there were no need to work? For me, my "mental wellbeing" and "purpose in life" don't come from grinding away in a cubicle on mundane business software, even on the odd occasions when it does present a challenge.
I know there are some people who, for reasons that are far beyond my understanding, feel the need to have work pushed upon them and say they'd "be bored to death" or "go insane" if they didn't have any tasks put upon them by outside parties, and are somehow incapable of finding ways to occupy their own time. There won't be a complete lack of work needed for a very long time, but if there were, it wouldn't be terribly difficult to accommodate such people, through artificial work programs to simulate capitalism at the worst. But I think therapy would be much more humane and beneficial to such people.
Who says anything will change *at all*, why would they need to do even a practically cosmetic reorganization? We don't know what goes on inside the NSA. Nothing they say can be trusted. Leaks are the most trustworthy source of info on what the NSA is doing.
What he is offering to do with Brazil would NOT add to the list because they are lawful actions. Your post was 1/2 factual at best.
What happens when we run out of time to take in these personal services? Only so many hours in a day, even if you do find a way to avoid sleeping. And if people continue to spend most of their adult lives working, it won't take much at all to hit that limit.
Paying people to do nothing, OTOH, could bring down society if the past is any guide - when people don't have a stake in building things, they tend to spend their time destroying them.
Citation fucking needed (be sure to look up the Dauphin experiment while you're at it).
Approaching that destructive feedback loop though, it can be very nasty for everyone who's not super-rich, while some remain super-rich, and it's not a fine line. It's a wide area we can wallow in for a long time, and we're in it now. Even a few very rich people are starting to realize that - not that they want to stop it for any altruistic reason, they just don't want to see the inside of that destructive feedback loop.
How does Manna's utopia ignore that people like to control and hurt each other? It glosses over a few problems but those aren't among them. Or are you saying that the system which prevents people from controlling and hurting each other could never be put into place because of those tendencies? It wouldn't be the first time society made progress, we don't call people witches and burn them anymore...
The Manna system is just about fully practical and possible right now. Look at Amazon's warehouse cart system, it's like a very early version of it. Computer vision is the only area that isn't good enough to match what's described in the novel, but is that really a show-stopper? With the hardware needed on the brink of being available off the shelf in a convenient self-contained unit, I'm surprised no Silly Valley libertarian who has no idea that he's a sociopath hasn't developed it yet. It's not like there aren't enough qualified people.
"Beck - Levande begravd" is worse than 2 girls 1 cup and Gigli combined!
And if you're rich you can kill 4 people and seriously injure 2 more in a drunk driving accident and get away practically scot-free!
The worst part is that the $900 bag is probably made in an even sketchier Chinese sweatshop than the $20 one...
"Tell us how you feel. If you have any criticisms you've been bottling up, then please write about them in journals, or better yet discuss them with your friends over an electronic communications medium. We'd hate to go unaware of any people with 'interesting' viewpoints." - The NSA.
Bitcoin value continues to be incredibly unstable! Also the sky is blue and water is wet! More updates as news develops!
So, that spelling's better then?
Being good at attacking is about success not attempts. Same with being good at defense. I would have expected the NSA to have an IDS system that operated much like a whitelist for all but their attack systems.
Since we can never trust anything the NSA says, they might as well be making this up. And since they might as well be making this up, why not be more creative?
Might as well copy the plot of Die Hard 4, that's what I had in mind when I read the article title. And wouldn't this attack require specific code for each model of computer mainboard in existence? I don't think it would get far before instructions for enabling BIOS write protection were being spread through the media anyway.
...it all goes to companies that sell things to supe-up my PC and car so I don't have to wait and my attention span doesn't run out. Problem solved!
I remember another car manufacturer was testing this in the late '90s-early 2000s, Mercedes IIRC?
NSA considered the possibility that Snowden left malicious software behind and removed every computer and cable that Snowden had access to from its classified network, costing tens of millions of dollars.
The fact that they think such an attack could take place and that their best defense would be to take every piece of equipment that could be tainted and kill it with fire tells me that the NSA's IDS systems are extremely weak, its NIDS especially. I think this is the first bit of news that compromises security at the NSA, and they admitted it willingly. Sounds like the NSA is VASTLY better at attack than defense, which apparently consists of carefully screening everything that's allowed on their network (down to their TEMPEST-proof HQ) and then crossing their fingers.
If you build it, they will come.
And Keith Alexander will do it in his Picard chair.
That's not their official policy. I'm not saying there's no racial profiling going on, I don't know if there is and I wouldn't be too surprised if there was...but that's not their official policy.
I didn't jump to that conclusion, I took it from the context of the rest of the discussion and even your own post (profiling based on appearance, which isn't part of behavioral profiling). If you were referring to behavioral profiling specifically then you're right but you should be more clear about that.
The Israelis DO NOT have an official policy of racial profiling. They use behavioral profiling.
And they are very serious about security, I doubt they'd do something as stupid and counterproductive as racial profiling. If they're really good, anyone suspected to be doing so on the lowdown would be warned and eventually sacked.