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Harvard Bomb Hoax Perpetrator Caught Despite Tor Use

Meshach writes "The FBI has caught the student who called in a bomb threat at Harvard University on December 16. The student used a temporary anonymous email account routed through Tor, but the FBI was able to trace it (PDF) because it originated from the Harvard wireless network. He could face as long as five years in prison, three years of supervised release and a $250,000 fine if convicted. He made the threat to get out of an exam."

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  1. In the kitchen by Cryacin · · Score: 5, Funny

    Whenever you peel back the layers of an onion, someone is bound to cry.

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    1. Re:In the kitchen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So this wasn't Tor's fault? Did the techs at the university only see a few tor users and sent the FBI to each of them?

    2. Re: In the kitchen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Onions make me cry
      I cannot tell you why
      They burn my little eyes
      Perhaps that's why I cry

    3. Re:In the kitchen by ysth · · Score: 2

      Yes. Or perhaps only one (in the relevant time frame).

      In terms of a deterrent, I'm not sure 5 years of jail is going to sound any more scary than just expulsion; the penalties here seem out of line.

    4. Re: In the kitchen by O('_')O_Bush · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Committing a felony already loses him the right to vote or own a firearm, and will make employment prospects difficult.

      Sure is a lot to give up to keep from having to take an exam.

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    5. Re:In the kitchen by Austrian+Anarchy · · Score: 1

      Yes. Or perhaps only one (in the relevant time frame).

      I am TOR ignorant, so maybe that is not the piece of the chain I should be asking about. Does TOR have a feature to delay passing the message that is not transmitted in the message? Anonymous email remailers used to have that feature, with incoming messages going back out in a different order than received, with various delays that could be added.

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    6. Re:In the kitchen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, just expel him and be done with it. Zero cost to the state.

    7. Re:In the kitchen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It isn't out of line when you consider all the resources that need to be mobilized to deal with this kind of thing. Then on top of that if you don't come down hard, you'll have these sorts of disruptions more often.

    8. Re:In the kitchen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No

    9. Re:In the kitchen by Loether · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yeah. I bet he was the only one (or a very few) at the time on Harvard's wifi and TOR. Then some good old fashioned police work, by telling the suspect some well crafted white lies closed the case. ie (we know what you did, sign this confession and make your life easier.) Unless I missed it, the court document never said they traced the specific message to him. Just him to TOR and TOR to the email. Then he admitted to it. At any rate, I'm glad they caught him. There are easier ways to avoid taking a test.

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    10. Re: In the kitchen by larry+bagina · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Bad example -- in Mass., felons don't lose their right to vote. They do lose their rights to own guns but the gun laws are so draconian that they never really had that right in the first place. Most people who own a gun are breaking the law in doing so.

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    11. Re: In the kitchen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      I shouldn't state it, but I hope an example is made from this person. At the uni I graduated from, they had many of these incidents, all timed around midterms or finals week. It got old having the police stop and lock down everyone in a building or having to wait hours for them to clear a parking lot with the dogs. Of course, when trying to focus on passing, it doesn't help either when a final is moved/rescheduled and one has spent a good long time preparing for it.

    12. Re:In the kitchen by rgbatduke · · Score: 1, Insightful

      In all probability, Harvard's trusted wireless network requires registration of all connected hosts. It may have an anonymous network as well (Duke does), but in either case it is almost certain that they are logging every DHCP event AND have a registered match between the student's hardware and his MAC address. So once the FBI subpeona'd Tor to get the IP number that sent the threat, it was a done deal.

      Of course, that doesn't mean that they'll get a conviction. Even though the evidence sounds like a smoking gun, it is really still circumstantial unless they get a confession. The DA has to prove that the student was in direct possession of the laptop at the time the message was sent. The DA has to prove that the student was in direct CONTROL of the laptop in question at the time the message was sent, since a REAL hacker could well have taken control of the laptop any one of a dozen ways to use it as a breakout for sending the message, and could even have deleted the tools they used to leave no traces. I'm guessing that they'll have to show that the student had a motive for sending the bomb threat to get out of the exam to partly counter this sort of defense, but then we're back to circumstantial -- perhaps the hacker was another student failing in the class who selected this laptop to hack just because it would keep anyone from following the trail further. All the defense attorney has to do is create reasonable doubt and communicate it effectively -- even with the match the FBI has more forensic work to do on the laptop to be able to address/counter these possibilities IF the student chooses to fight it.

      More likely the student has already confessed, or will confess as part of a plea bargain (if they are in fact guilty). Nobody, especially the parents of the kid who would have to pay for it, will want to bring this to trial. He or they will likely get socked with a pretty hefty fine (to pay for the cost of the forensic work and bomb squad), three years probation with mandatory counseling/therapy, and (of course) will get kicked out of Harvard so hard that he bounces on the pavement all the way home, where his parents will very likely add their own line of punishment (such as working flipping burgers until he or she pays off the fine before resuming an education at the local community college). If the student was in academic difficulty because of bad habits or cognitive problems -- video gaming, drugs, partying constantly with too much alcohol, ADD with impulse control issues (all of which he might have to confess to just to get out of going to jail) there will be additional therapy there as well.

      Obviously the kid wasn't a rocket scientist, Harvard or not. A proper geek would have paid cash for a throwaway USB wireless stick, used the anonymous wireless network at Panera Bread or Barnes and Noble from a car (to avoid time-logged in-store video surveillance) and then simply thrown the stick into a storm drain. A geek who wears pants with belt and suspenders would have booted their linux box into single user mode and edited the log files to remove all trace of both the IP number and MAC address of the USB stick. A serious geek would never have been caught. But then, a serious geek wouldn't have needed to delay the exam...

      rgb

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    13. Re:In the kitchen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      So once the FBI subpeona'd Tor to get the IP number that sent the threat, it was a done deal.

      Tor is not an entity.

    14. Re:In the kitchen by tgd · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yes. Or perhaps only one (in the relevant time frame).

      In terms of a deterrent, I'm not sure 5 years of jail is going to sound any more scary than just expulsion; the penalties here seem out of line.

      IMO, not even remotely out of line. Ignoring the impact to students at Harvard (and the cost to the school), it impacted local police, and the area around Harvard.

      And more importantly, and the whole point of punishments, is to put the deterrent high enough to prevent others from doing it. If the perception of a moron like this kid is "I'm going to flunk out" vs "I'm going to be expelled", unless there's a 100% chance of being caught making the threat, you're better off making the threat if the only ramification is being expelled.

    15. Re:In the kitchen by PIBM · · Score: 4, Informative

      If you had taken the time to read the deposition, when confronted he said that he did it and why.. so yeah, he's toasted.

    16. Re:In the kitchen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are easier ways to avoid taking a test.

      A well timed release of a pair of badgers into the exam hall would have done the trick.

      At any rate, it sounds like he lacked basic OPSEC, and was caught because the people looking into this were actually competent (just because the FBI tends to create their own criminals and then frame them up doesn't mean that they *can't* perform actual policework when required.)

      Tor isn't exactly a magic bullet, but something minor like using somebody else's computer (preferably someone of Middle Eastern descent...the FBI just loves them, or someone he just plain didn't like) to send his bomb threat would at least added a hurdle to their search.

      As far as "breaking" him, I doubt they even had to put much work into that. We all like to think we're savvy and tough because "we've seen it all on TV" but when you're actually locked in a little room for an hour or two, you just might break on the spot, and that's before an experienced investigator even starts asking you questions.

    17. Re:In the kitchen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In terms of a deterrent, I'm not sure 5 years of jail is going to sound any more scary than just expulsion; the penalties here seem out of line.

      IMO, not even remotely out of line. Ignoring the impact to students at Harvard (and the cost to the school), it impacted local police, and the area around Harvard.

      Exactly, and this is why when somebody pulls an Enron or Madoff, I cannot understand why people think the penalties of so-called 'white collar' crime are too harsh. If you consider the opportunity costs and man years of suffering some of these fools have inflicted on certain populations, they should be executed.

    18. Re:In the kitchen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes. Or perhaps only one (in the relevant time frame).

      In terms of a deterrent, I'm not sure 5 years of jail is going to sound any more scary than just expulsion; the penalties here seem out of line.

      Out of line? Maybe, but it is understandable. A lot of time and money goes into bomb threat response, and had an actual bomb gone off we'd all be whining like little bitches about terrorism and safety and shit.

      The threat of being branded a terrorist and basically throwing your life away over a stupid prank is a deterrent for any frat boy dipshits who get similar ideas in the future. Daddy's money probably can't keep you out of prison and away from years of daily ass rape (ass rape in prison doesn't actually happen nearly as much as some people like to think, but if you're a frat boy douche, the rules are a bit different.)

    19. Re:In the kitchen by rgbatduke · · Score: 1

      Read TFA? Where's the fun in that?

      Yeah, I realized that right after posting. Sorry.

      rgb

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    20. Re:In the kitchen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Can you also apologize for posting your name after every post? It shows up at the top of the post, we can all read, no need to burn bytes typing it again.

    21. Re: In the kitchen by Stuarticus · · Score: 0

      Damn, now he'll just have to wave his real dick around when he gets pissed off.

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    22. Re:In the kitchen by roc97007 · · Score: 2

      I suspect it wasn't hard to figure out. Bomb threats before exams are fairly common, historically. Therefore, there's a high likelihood that the perp is a student. Therefore, high likelihood that the threat originated on campus. Examination of router logs during the time in question then becomes the most likely first step. And it paid off. This doesn't really have anything to do with TOR. It has to do with an individual student understanding just enough about how the internet works to make a half assed and ultimately fruitless attempt to cover his tracks.

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    23. Re:In the kitchen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "subpeona'd Tor"
      Uh, what?

    24. Re:In the kitchen by koan · · Score: 1

      Nice =) and you got it first.

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    25. Re:In the kitchen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Badgers? We don't need no stinkin' badgers!

    26. Re:In the kitchen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So once the FBI subpeona'd Tor to get the IP number that sent the threat, it was a done deal.

      This makes no sense. Replace "Tor" with say "Bittorrent" or even "Firefox" to see what I mean.

    27. Re:In the kitchen by terbeaux · · Score: 4, Informative

      So once the FBI subpeona'd Tor to...

      That's an awful long post for someone that doesn't seem to know what they are talking about. Tor cannot be subpoenaed for information. It is a peer to peer network, not a legal entity. They got this guy because to get on university wifi you need to login, which then associates your mac address with your account and allows traffic to flow. They also monitor your traffic and could associate his account with Tor use. This gave the FBI enough information to question him and he probably was so scared and guilty feeling that he freely confessed. You can change the mac address on most network adapters. You wouldn't need to buy a throwaway usb wifi adapter. The FBI would have had much less to go on if the perp had simply used a free wifi hotspot.

      It is difficult to understand what was going on in his head but it obviously wasn't rational thought.

    28. Re:In the kitchen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      How does one subpoena Tor?

    29. Re: In the kitchen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's his graphomania. He can't help it.

    30. Re:In the kitchen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      So once the FBI subpeona'd Tor

      LOL, what?

    31. Re:In the kitchen by Ravaldy · · Score: 1

      I agree. He knew what he was doing was wrong but he didn't kill anybody or put anybody in harms way.

      He should have to pay a portion or all of the fees incurred by the government to react to the situation.

      A large fine + expulsion should be good enough to deter anybody in the future.

    32. Re: In the kitchen by Ravaldy · · Score: 0

      How do you explain the 5.5 millions guns sold annually to citizens in the US?

      Can't be that hard if that many guns are purchased annually.

      FYI, there are 90 guns per 100 citizens in the US. These statistics are all available online.

    33. Re: In the kitchen by Qwaniton · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The person you replied to was talking about gun laws in Massachusetts. You're talking about gun sales in the United States of America as a whole, completely ignoring state-level differences. If you don't see the obvious, slap-you-in-the-face error here, then you should trust that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. If you are indeed a United States citizen, which I heavily doubt, you're a fool. Pick another topic to try to sound smart about.

    34. Re:In the kitchen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      once the FBI subpeona'd Tor to get the IP number that sent the threat, it was a done deal.

      You do realize that TOR is a distributed system that doesn't maintain logs. It's not some company you can send a subpeona to. As such, there really isn't anyone to subpeona; nor is there anything to subpeona.

    35. Re:In the kitchen by Urza9814 · · Score: 1

      So once the FBI subpeona'd Tor to get the IP number that sent the threat, it was a done deal.

      ...what? Do you know what Tor is? That sentence doesn't even make sense...

      My guess is: Tor only encrypts things that are passing through Tor. So if the email provider he was using didn't secure the session (and I'm pretty sure most don't) then they probably had a copy of the email *leaving* the Harvard network before it even hit Tor.

    36. Re:In the kitchen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They are clueless. "So once the FBI subpeona'd Tor to get the IP number that sent the threat"

    37. Re:In the kitchen by Wootery · · Score: 1

      You are implying that the state would be getting poor value by persuing an appropriate punishment. To me, deterring bomb-threats seems like a perfectly good use of state funds.

      Am I missing something?

    38. Re:In the kitchen by Wootery · · Score: 1

      they should be executed.

      No, but that's an entirely different conversation. Other than this, I agree entirely.

    39. Re:In the kitchen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So once the FBI subpeona'd Tor

      Really? Can you explain exactly how that would work?

    40. Re: In the kitchen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      in missouri you lose the right to until five years after you are no longer a ward of the state. you only lose the right to bear arms if your felony involved a weapon of any kind.

    41. Re: In the kitchen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Draconian? Hah, the rest of the world calls that modern.

    42. Re: In the kitchen by aaaaaaargh! · · Score: 1

      Ehm...the US has different parts with different local laws. You didn't know that?

    43. Re: In the kitchen by NoImNotNineVolt · · Score: 2

      How do you explain the 5.5 millions guns sold annually to citizens in the US?

      Easy. They're sold to people that don't live in Massachusetts. What do I win?

      A number of years ago, I was moving from Maine back to New Jersey. I [legally] own firearms. I added two hours to my trip to entirely avoid Massachusetts, since it really is virtually illegal to have guns there.

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    44. Re:In the kitchen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "...and then simply thrown the stick into a storm drain."

      And promptly get nabbed by the cops for littering!

    45. Re:In the kitchen by supermachoman · · Score: 1

      Glad somebody called him out on his lack of understanding

    46. Re: In the kitchen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I added two hours to my trip to entirely avoid Massachusetts, since it really is virtually illegal to have guns there.

      States cannot bar you from transporting a gun through their State as long as you legally owned it in the State you were bringing it from and will legally own it in the State you're bringing it to.
      If you want to be extra safe make sure to dis-assemble it, if possible put it into a locking gun case, make sure any clips are unloaded, etc. and then stick it all in your trunk.

    47. Re:In the kitchen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This doesn't really have anything to do with TOR.

      It has to do with TOR insofar as they knew the threat came from the Tor network, so they looked at campus network logs for anybody who happened to be connecting to TOR during that time period.

    48. Re:In the kitchen by roc97007 · · Score: 1

      This doesn't really have anything to do with TOR.

      It has to do with TOR insofar as they knew the threat came from the Tor network, so they looked at campus network logs for anybody who happened to be connecting to TOR during that time period.

      Granted, but the important thing is "during that time period". When analyzing encrypted messages, you can get valuable information just by the timing of messages, even if you can't read their content. He could have used any anonymizing service or technique -- it was the timing that tripped him up. That, and he was stupid enough to use the campus wifi, thinking his use of TOR would be enough to prevent identification.

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    49. Re: In the kitchen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      But people have been prosecuted while in transit for deviating from the shortest path or required stops such as fuel. Cases exist in DC, NYC, and IL. In various instances, People stopped at an attraction, or a park, or a shopping mall, and as those weren't involved in their direct ability to transit the state, several courts ruled they lost their protections. Taking a detour to avoid insanity like that is very reasonable.

    50. Re:In the kitchen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They didn't subpoena Tor. They interviewed Loki, who ratted him out immediately.

    51. Re: In the kitchen by Ravaldy · · Score: 1

      Good info to have.

    52. Re: In the kitchen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Another liberal dickless wonder that not only doesn't want to be able to defend themselves but would deny others that right as well. You're an enemy of all free people, die of cancer.

    53. Re: In the kitchen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And in most of the rest of the world you can be thrown into jail for saying "Bad things" about the people in power. Leave it to a liberal/eurofag to not understand freedom.

  2. "because it originated from the wireless network" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "[...], but the FBI was able to trace it (PDF) because it originated from the Harvard wireless network."

    They were able to trace it, period.
    The rest was just made up to make us believe that maybe they could not have traced it otherwise.

  3. Dr. Leroy by Lucky_Pierre · · Score: 1

    Will be giving him his next exam.

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  4. Heckler veto by smittyoneeach · · Score: 5, Insightful

    We can either live in a future where little jackwagons can effect a denial-of-service attack on society, or
    we can spank the crap out of the idiots so that this kind of noise is minimized. Same goes for rape/hate crime hoaxes.

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    1. Re:Heckler veto by Jherek+Carnelian · · Score: 4, Insightful

      We can either live in a future where little jackwagons can effect a denial-of-service attack on society, or we can spank the crap out of the idiots so that this kind of noise is minimized.

      OR we can stop over-reacting and instead apply a rational evaluation of the facts. This knee-jerk "all threats must be taken seriously" where "seriously" really means "total freakout" is the vulnerability here.

    2. Re:Heckler veto by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      OR we can stop over-reacting and instead apply a rational evaluation of the facts. This knee-jerk "all threats must be taken seriously" where "seriously" really means "total freakout" is the vulnerability here.

      That will never happen. Even if the administration is 99% certain the threat isn't serious, imagine what would happen if they ignore a bomb threat and there actually is a bomb.

    3. Re:Heckler veto by zwei2stein · · Score: 3, Insightful

      When you are in charge, rational thing to do is to take threat seriously amd act on it.

      Why? Because if you are wrong about it being hoax, you are the one who has been responsible for preventing any and all deaths or injuries related to bomb going off.

      Your life would be instantly ruined - you failed to do your job and people died. Media and Internet would make sure everyone knows for year (up untill your deaths).

      Best thing to do is to do your job properly and when someone tries to abuse that, kick the fucker in the nuts enough so that it is not worth it for him.

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    4. Re:Heckler veto by N1AK · · Score: 1

      We over-react when sentencing for any number of crimes and to be fair we probably are in this case as well but that doesn't mean that the incident wasn't handled correctly, nor does it mean that it wasn't a serious crime and deserving of a strong punishment. What % chance of a bomb threat being a hoax should there be before we decide not to evacuate? Who measures it, is there a convenient bomb-threat-seriousness-omiter that they can use? Ultimately, unless we are overwhelmingly confident (pretty much the person who called it in has admitted it and we have evidence it was them) then we're going to have to respond.

      The threat will have had a considerable impact from police and university resources investigating it, to wasted university resources for the cancelled exam, distress for some students, and potential affect on results across multiple exams for students. A punishment in line with that for a severe assault wouldn't be remotely unreasonable, in my opinion, though I'd probably think the typical punishment for that is also too severe.

    5. Re:Heckler veto by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Funny how you define "do your job properly" as not getting your life ruined. You are part of the problem.

    6. Re:Heckler veto by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cut off his hand!!!

    7. Re:Heckler veto by csumpi · · Score: 1

      stop over-reacting

      Yeah. Like telling people to just go back to their offices, because these buildings can take a couple airplanes flying into them.

    8. Re:Heckler veto by Jherek+Carnelian · · Score: 1

      Yeah. Like telling people to just go back to their offices, because these buildings can take a couple airplanes flying into them.

      If you seriously think that is an example of rational thought then lets hope you are never in a position of power or authority.

      Here's an accurate example of irrational evaluation - the boston police losing their shit over a bunch of lite-brites.

    9. Re:Heckler veto by hawkinspeter · · Score: 1

      There's a world of difference, though, between acting on an actual threat (although fake) and assuming a threat based on some visible wiring (although safe).

      If you receive a bomb threat, it makes sense to follow procedure and evacuate the building even though 99 times out of a 100 the threat is fake. Would you be happy ignoring a fire alarm due to the fact that most of the time there isn't an actual fire or would you rather evacuate the building to be on the safe side?

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    10. Re:Heckler veto by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, because no one would ever actually bomb a large gathering of many innocent people in Boston.
      Oh, wait...

    11. Re:Heckler veto by Jherek+Carnelian · · Score: 1

      If you receive a bomb threat, it makes sense to follow procedure and evacuate the building even though 99 times out of a 100 the threat is fake.

      That is only true in a world in which blindly evacuating a building 99 times has no cost. Rational risk evaluation is about taking into account all factors rather than just the myopia of hysteria.

    12. Re:Heckler veto by Jherek+Carnelian · · Score: 1

      Yes, because no one would ever actually bomb a large gathering of many innocent people in Boston.
      Oh, wait...

      And what was the threat that the bombers sent beforehand?
      Oh, wait...

    13. Re:Heckler veto by Jherek+Carnelian · · Score: 1

      When you are in charge, rational thing to do is to take threat seriously amd act on it.

      Why? Because ... your life would be instantly ruined

      Funny how you used exactly the same fallacious reasoning and terminology I was criticizing. You've just demonstrated my exact point that "seriously" equals "total freakout." When you are in charge and you freakout there is no cost for you to bear, if you spin it right you get to be the hero. Meanwhile the costs of your freakout are carried by everyone else.

    14. Re:Heckler veto by hawkinspeter · · Score: 1

      I take your point, but the problem is how you assign a cost to the one time that a bomb does go off and the building wasn't evacuated.

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    15. Re:Heckler veto by Jherek+Carnelian · · Score: 1

      I take your point, but the problem is how you assign a cost to the one time that a bomb does go off and the building wasn't evacuated.

      No, that cost is pretty clear. The part that requires thinking is assigning the cost of the 99 false positives (or really, given how few actual bombings we have, its more like 999+ false positives).

      I'm not saying there is a magic way to figure out the one time the bomb threat is real. What I am saying is that there are ways to rationally conclude that a bomb threat is probably a hoax while still being cautious. If you can cut down those false positives by 75% while still leaving a good margin of error that's a big win.

    16. Re:Heckler veto by hawkinspeter · · Score: 1

      I'm not convinced that it's easy to cut down the false positives so much without also increasing the chance that you get it wrong once. Bear in mind that there's not typically going to be much time to do a forensic evalutation of the threat, so you're going to have to rely on the people who receive the threat (who might not be well trained security professionals) to make a judgement call.

      The problem is that it's not considered acceptable to leave people in a threatened building when you have advance notice of the threat and most people won't take the risk when they realise that one choice leads to a bit of time and money wasted and the other choice involves explaining to family members why you chose to endanger people unnecessarily.

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    17. Re:Heckler veto by Jherek+Carnelian · · Score: 1

      The question to ask is what has changed? Why was it no big deal to blow off hoax threats 15 years ago but it isn't OK now? I'm pretty sure the number of actual threats hasn't increased - if it is like most crime, it's significantly decreased over that time period.

      So what happened? Why is hysteria the default rather than reason?

    18. Re:Heckler veto by hawkinspeter · · Score: 1

      I'm not convinced that anything has changed. I lived through the 1970s in England when we had a large number of IRA bomb threats, some real, some made up. I'm not aware of anything being different these days, although the US does seem particularly scared of terrorism whereas in England we just keep calm and carry on.

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    19. Re:Heckler veto by zwei2stein · · Score: 1

      And if you pass real thing off as a joke?

      People bearing the cost will be dead victims. Good luck with that.

      How much time has passed since marathon bombings, pray tell? I kinda wish you were in charge, recieved warning and ignored it as you suggest is such good idea.

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    20. Re:Heckler veto by Jherek+Carnelian · · Score: 1

      How much time has passed since marathon bombings, pray tell?

      I'm curious what did the boston bombers write in their bomb threat? Could you quote it for me?

    21. Re:Heckler veto by Jherek+Carnelian · · Score: 1

      I'm not convinced that anything has changed
      ...
      although the US does seem particularly scared of terrorism whereas in England we just keep calm and carry on.

      I don't know any other way to read that but as self-contradictory.

    22. Re:Heckler veto by hawkinspeter · · Score: 1

      What I meant was that as far as I know, people have always evacuated buildings when there's been a bomb threat, regardless of the chances of it being real or not.

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    23. Re:Heckler veto by Jherek+Carnelian · · Score: 1

      My understanding is that the IRA was very scrupulous about making bomb threats. They didn't make hoax threats and they had a system for authenticating themselves when making the threats so that officials could determine reliability of the threat such that hoaxers were more likely to be ignored.

    24. Re:Heckler veto by hawkinspeter · · Score: 1

      Yep, that sounds about right. I was definitely involved in a few building evacuations following a (presumably) hoax threat, so I'm not convinced that many threats were ignored.

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  5. Of course, he'll have affluenza by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    And therefore they'll put him in rehab rather than prison.

    Unless he's not affluent enough for his affluenza to be strong enough to cover this crime, after all, he called in a bomb threat, rather than killed four people in a drunk-driving incident.

    1. Re:Of course, he'll have affluenza by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Kind of a stretch there. Yeah, that article happened recently. Doesn't have anything to do with what's going on though. Maybe you should talk about bitcoins or something.

    2. Re:Of course, he'll have affluenza by TemperedAlchemist · · Score: 1

      You should look at the statistics for people who attend Harvard. 30% of their students have a family that pulls in 150k or more.

    3. Re:Of course, he'll have affluenza by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He's a Harvard student who feels entitled enough to throw an entire university's daily business under the bus to avoid personal consequences.

      Not that much of a stretch.

    4. Re:Of course, he'll have affluenza by isorox · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You should look at the statistics for people who attend Harvard. 30% of their students have a family that pulls in 150k or more.

      I'm amazed it's that low.

    5. Re:Of course, he'll have affluenza by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      150k is great and all, but it doesn't even come close to approaching affluent.

    6. Re:Of course, he'll have affluenza by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Don't be, the other 70% just don't have an income, they're living off trust funds.

    7. Re:Of course, he'll have affluenza by ysth · · Score: 1

      Depends where you live.

    8. Re:Of course, he'll have affluenza by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I'm amazed it's that low."

      The 30% or the 150k?

    9. Re:Of course, he'll have affluenza by adamchou · · Score: 1

      He probably didn't know he had affluenza. Otherwise, he would have realized he was pretty much going to get an A anyways... http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2013/12/3/grade-inflation-mode-a/

    10. Re:Of course, he'll have affluenza by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The other 70% make 149k or more.

    11. Re:Of course, he'll have affluenza by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You should look at the statistics for people who attend Harvard. 30% of their students have a family that pulls in 150k or more.

      These guys seem to think that 45% of Harvard students come from $200k+ families, or the top 4% of households. Are you trying to argue that either of those numbers counter the stereotype that Harvard students are "affluent?"

      There's definitely a different legal system for the ridiculously rich - the 0.1% or 0.01%, but the I think you'll find that the top 50% also have different experience with the legal system than the bottom 50%. "Affluenza" isn't a binary affliction, but a sliding scale.

    12. Re:Of course, he'll have affluenza by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If that's per household... that's not exactly a large amount of money these days.

      A dual income household where each makes $75k doesn't seem exceptionally affluent.

    13. Re:Of course, he'll have affluenza by nedlohs · · Score: 1

      You mightn't call being in the top 9% of households incomes "exceptionally affluent", but the other 91% of people probably do.

    14. Re:Of course, he'll have affluenza by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Near Harvard, that pays rent, food, and maybe daycare for a family of four.

    15. Re:Of course, he'll have affluenza by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Depends where you live.

      No. I live in one of the cheaper states of the US in terms of cost of living. We make roughly 170. We are far from affluent in terms of all those around us (in appearance). Sure you can appear affluent by buying expensive houses and cars and such and not saving anything for tomorrow but that's no way to live.

      Investing in your 401k's or IRA's/Roths for retirement, a percentage or all of your children's educations, giving your 10% to charity/church, staying debt free, having enough for a decent vacation, etc doesn't leave much for the affluent lifestyle. 200-250 would be more like it around here.

    16. Re:Of course, he'll have affluenza by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's because the truly wealthy hide everything in trusts and corporations. This is why both a gross wealth and a gross benefits accessible tax are necessary. At those levels, very few things are actually held in an individual's name.

    17. Re:Of course, he'll have affluenza by isorox · · Score: 3, Informative

      You mightn't call being in the top 9% of households incomes "exceptionally affluent", but the other 91% of people probably do.

      I'm in the bottom 91%, but I certainly don't think a household on $150k a year is "exceptionally affulent". The median is about $70k.

    18. Re:Of course, he'll have affluenza by sycodon · · Score: 1

      So true.

      How much of a loser is he that he has to try and avoid a final when all he had to do, probably, was sign his name to the paper and get an A.

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    19. Re:Of course, he'll have affluenza by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When did 150k become the new "rich"? My wife and I make a little over 200k and I can assure you we're not rich. We live in NJ and have two children under 5, so perhaps that's some of it...but holy crap. We're trying to figure out how we can save up for the next few years so we can afford a pool...not whether we want to drive the benz or rolls royce this weekend.

    20. Re:Of course, he'll have affluenza by tgd · · Score: 1

      You mightn't call being in the top 9% of households incomes "exceptionally affluent", but the other 91% of people probably do.

      For a school that costs $60k a year?

      Are kids today really that stupid? If you don't have an income that high, even with a LOT of grants, you're taking on a crushing debt.

      The first lesson people need to learn is to live responsibly. Someone who isn't from a family making that much dropping a quarter million dollars on an education is, in fact, a perfect example of not.

    21. Re:Of course, he'll have affluenza by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Close.. but not exactly.

      Try a median of 51k.

    22. Re:Of course, he'll have affluenza by isorox · · Score: 2

      Close.. but not exactly.

      Try a median of 51k.

      However that median is brought down by young kids who don't have children who go to university.

      The typical wage earners in a family that send their kids to university will be arround the 45-55 mark (having had the kids around 25-35)

      http://advisorperspectives.com/dshort/updates/Household-Incomes-by-Age-Brackets.php

      backs my figure up, and earning twice what the average earn (pre-tax) doesn't make you rich, it's just a divide and conquer that the truely rich like to put out there.

      $150k a year for your household means you can afford a hosue about $400-450k, something like http://www.trulia.com/property/3029951135-8514-S-124th-St-Seattle-WA-98178, sure a nice house, but not rich by a long shot.

    23. Re:Of course, he'll have affluenza by nedlohs · · Score: 1

      No one cares about the 3x income limit for a buying a house. That went out the window with down payments and needing an income back in the over a decade ago.

      You would think a housing bust would have changed that, but just to pick a random google result try:

      http://www.myfico.com/loancenter/mortgage/calculators/loanbalancelimit.aspx

      Enter 12500 for the monthly income and click to the results, you won't see anything anywhere near $450000 (yes that ignores the insurance and property tax fields, it's not exactly accurate anyway...)

    24. Re:Of course, he'll have affluenza by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Which state is that?

    25. Re:Of course, he'll have affluenza by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The point is 150k isn't enough affluenza to kill people and practically get away with it.

    26. Re:Of course, he'll have affluenza by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The median household income in US is actually around $51K.

    27. Re:Of course, he'll have affluenza by sandytaru · · Score: 3, Informative

      Naw, Harvard has a huge endowment. There are some very poor kids who are very very smart and who'd love a Harvard brand name on their degrees. Harvard wants only the smartest poor people, so will offer the diamonds in the rough free tuition. The kids are still on the hook for housing, food, and books, but those costs are closer to $10,000/year if you live very frugally. It's win/win - Harvard gets a crop of geniuses, and the geniuses go to a college they'd otherwise never be able to afford.

      The valedictorian at my high school went this route. With a perfect SAT and ACT score and a bunch of academic achievement awards she probably could have gone anywhere, but she picked Harvard because they waived all the tuition and fees for her. Since her parents were Army, they couldn't provide much financial support outside of the scholarships, but their little girl got into Harvard so they were going to try.

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    28. Re:Of course, he'll have affluenza by isorox · · Score: 1

      "I'm amazed it's that low."

      The 30% or the 150k?

      The 30%. It could well be that 29.9% earn over $1 million, and I wouldn't struggle to believe that, but saying "30%" implies that 70% don't earn more than $150k, and that's where I find it hard to believe given the cost of going to Harvard, and indeed the type of home and schooling environment that allows kids to excel academically to get into Harvard.

    29. Re:Of course, he'll have affluenza by Gavagai80 · · Score: 1

      it's just a divide and conquer that the truely rich like to put out there.

      I'm really sick of people who make more than 10 times as much as me whining about how they're not truly rich. $150K/yr is rich, even if it's not uber-rich.

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    30. Re:Of course, he'll have affluenza by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He got out of exams for a while. Crime pays, affluenz crime twice, thrice or at least tenfold.

    31. Re:Of course, he'll have affluenza by Yunzil · · Score: 1

      Median household income in the US is somewhere around $52,000.

    32. Re:Of course, he'll have affluenza by isorox · · Score: 1

      Close.. but not exactly.

      Try a median of 51k.

      However that median is brought down by young kids who don't have children who go to university.

      The typical wage earners in a family that send their kids to university will be arround the 45-55 mark (having had the kids around 25-35)

      On top of that the typical parents of a kid at uni will live in a 2-wageearner households, where the median wage will be pulled down by 1 wage earner households.

    33. Re:Of course, he'll have affluenza by isorox · · Score: 1

      it's just a divide and conquer that the truely rich like to put out there.

      I'm really sick of people who make more than 10 times as much as me whining about how they're not truly rich. $150K/yr is rich, even if it's not uber-rich.

      I suggest you get a job. If you're on $7,500 a year, you're on $4.50 an hour based on a 35 hour week for 48 weeks a year.

      $150k for a typical household is $75k each, which is not "rich" in comparision to the rest of the country, or western world. Obviously $7500 a year is rich compared to people in Burundi.

    34. Re:Of course, he'll have affluenza by isorox · · Score: 1

      Median household income in the US is somewhere around $52,000.

      But median household income for a family with kids at an age to go to uni is higher, as
      1) it's not skewed downwards by retirees
      2) it's not skewed downwards by people on their first job
      3) it's not skewed downwards by single-earner households

    35. Re:Of course, he'll have affluenza by AthanasiusKircher · · Score: 1

      You mightn't call being in the top 9% of households incomes "exceptionally affluent", but the other 91% of people probably do.

      For a school that costs $60k a year?

      Are kids today really that stupid? If you don't have an income that high, even with a LOT of grants, you're taking on a crushing debt.

      You might try doing some research before calling kids (and parents) who go to many top-tier private schools "stupid."

      Harvard gives financial aid to the vast majority of its students. See their policies here.

      In sum, families who make less than $65k pay NOTHING. Families who pay between $65k and $150k pay a maximum of 10% of family income.

      So, your hypothetical $150k household would pay a maximum of $15k per year, totaling about $60k for four years, not the "quarter million" you assume. That puts the cost close to the range of many of the better state universities, since this $15k/year includes room and board (and even factors in some costs for books and personal expenses).

      Once you go above a family income of $150k, the cost will rise proportionally above 10%, but the vast majority of Harvard students are not "taking on crushing debt."

    36. Re:Of course, he'll have affluenza by adamstew · · Score: 1

      The fact that you are considering saving up to afford a pool is a statement of you being rich. Considering that an average in ground pool should cost about $25,000 to $50,000.

      That's about the average annual salary for a person in the US...$50,000. That's more than the cost of a new luxury car...more than the cost of TWO new average cars... All for something that is a recreational activity and entirely unnecessary . On top of that, a recreational activity you can only enjoy for a few months of the year, in NJ if you're building an outdoor pool... and if it's an indoor pool, then the cost will be more than $50,000. If you are spending an amount of money equal to the average US salary on a recreational activity, then yes...you are indeed rich.

      Most people, when they want to swim, will do so by going to a public municipal pool if you're poor, The Y if you're of average income, or if you're of above-average income, but still middle-class, you might have a private pool that is shared by your HOA or apartment complex. Anyone who owns a private in-ground pool, I would consider to be rich.

      Now, there are many levels of rich...you are in the lower levels of rich, but you are indeed rich. The bands of rich are very large. Making about $150,000 per year puts you in to the lower-upper class. If you make $150,000 per year, you are in the top 5% of households. Make more than $250,000 per year? then you're in the top 1%. Given that you make $200k per year, you are probably in the top 2.5%. more than $250k per year puts you in the middle-upper class, and more than $1 million per year puts you in the upper-upper class.

    37. Re:Of course, he'll have affluenza by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Only $10,000/year? A few years before I started university you had all your costs paid by the state. Housing, food, books, everything.

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    38. Re:Of course, he'll have affluenza by sandytaru · · Score: 1

      I wish I had been in your state. My undergrad was about $60,000 total for four years at UGA, including summers. Around $4500/year of that was tuition ($1500 a semester, very roughly.) So, $18,000 for tuition alone. That least $42,000 that accounts for cost of living - and in my case, a ravenous technology appetite. My tuition was covered by the state, at least, and I worked 20-30 hours a week for most of my college career to cover the rest - housing, food, books.

      It was not a glamorous lifestyle. The highlight of my undergrad poverty was when my mother gave me a nice futon for Christmas (rather, $400 to go out and buy one. I still have that futon and use it as my primary couch.)

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    39. Re:Of course, he'll have affluenza by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Capital is like the father,
      luck is like the holy ghost,
      and compound interest is the miracle.
      Begin in the middle.
      Until then the best you can do is eat shit and smile, it works just the same in every percentile. You haven't lived until you haven't lived.

  6. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by The1stImmortal · · Score: 5, Informative

    Not neccessarily. His access to Tor via the campus wifi matched the timing of the emails enough to get him in a room, and then he confessed. Without the confession there'd be a lot less certainty of conviction, as the presumption of innocence would probably compel a jury, in the absence of any other compelling evidence, to find him not guilty.

    Moral of the story: Don't talk to cops.

    (also, don't make false bomb threats. They're stupid)

  7. So he didn't get caught from the e-mail... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ...but because he was the only one on the whole campus wifi that used Tor that day.

    Lesson to learn: Keep your endpoint traffic able to be lost in the noise, or ya' stick out like a sunflower in a coal mine.

    I.E. SSH somewhere *THEN* Tor.

    1. Re:So he didn't get caught from the e-mail... by AmiMoJo · · Score: 3, Interesting

      His mistake was admitting it. They basically had nothing on him, he could have been using Tor for any number of reasons and was not required to explain himself. All he had to do was deny sending the email and assuming he properly secured his browser there would have been no evidence to the contrary.

      Tor is still fine, even if you are the only one on campus using it. That fact alone is meaningless.

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    2. Re:So he didn't get caught from the e-mail... by Charliemopps · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Unless they had probable cause to grab his computer and he wasn't savvy enough to have wiped the drive. Cookies for the offending email address would be pretty incriminating.

    3. Re:So he didn't get caught from the e-mail... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      "All he had to do was deny sending the email and assuming he properly secured his browser there would have been no evidence to the contrary."

      Denial is another crime. The correct action is to exercise his right to remain silent (and not to have called in the bomb threat in the first place of course).

    4. Re:So he didn't get caught from the e-mail... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Unless they had probable cause to grab his computer and he wasn't savvy enough to have wiped the drive. Cookies for the offending email address would be pretty incriminating.

      i dont think you know how tor software works.. in using the preconfigured tor software that utilizes firefox, cookies are disabled by default, also java. and at the end of every session all history, cache and any traces to what you were doing are deleted automatically.. save if you download or bookmark something...

    5. Re:So he didn't get caught from the e-mail... by N1AK · · Score: 1

      His mistake was doing it in the first place. If he hadn't admitted it then they'd likely have been able to get a warrant. They'd take his computer and all other electronics and then he'd better be damn confident there was nothing on it that could in any way implicate him. Even if there wasn't then he's not safe because any investigation worth a damn is going to probe into what he claims he was doing on Tor and do you really think the network activity for browsing porn, surfing silroad or whatever looks like that of sending an email. If he says he sent an email to anyone identifiable then they'll get that person up, in court under oath, to swear they receive it (having already collected and analysed their electronics as well).

      I'm a more than slightly cynical person and think I'd probably make a pretty poor jurist because to me 'reasonable doubt' is a hugely wide definition that almost anyone fits. However if I'm presented with evidence of network traffic that would be expected when sending an email via the claimed anonymous email and nothing at all like it would if the defendant was doing whatever else he claimed then I'm confident that he's lying and if he's lying then I'm deciding whether there is a plausible reason for that other than he committed the crime; and even if there was then he still lied under oath which is a crime in itself.

    6. Re:So he didn't get caught from the e-mail... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If he was savy enough to use TOR he was probably savy enough to wipe his cookies properly.

    7. Re:So he didn't get caught from the e-mail... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...because TorBrowser stores cookies after it is closed.

      Nope.

    8. Re:So he didn't get caught from the e-mail... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      His mistake was admitting it. They basically had nothing on him, he could have been using Tor for any number of reasons and was not required to explain himself. All he had to do was deny sending the email and assuming he properly secured his browser there would have been no evidence to the contrary.

      WTF? His mistake was committing a significant crime over failing to study for an exam. Threatening people with death over an exam? Once they found the right suspect it's not hard to find additional evidence. Your logic is for the trial. Once the police have probable cause, which this was, his life is pretty messed up.

    9. Re:So he didn't get caught from the e-mail... by thoromyr · · Score: 1

      It isn't very hard to send a fraudulent email and get away with it. But it is also easy to take precautions and still get caught. One way is the temptation to test. Some spammers do this, as do some hoaxsters. Problem is when they send a test "anonymous" email to their account to be sure that it works, then send the real one from the same source. Easily caught via netflow analysis. Or if they are foolish and authenticate to a different service from the same source. Somewhat different, but the thief who logged on to facebook using the computer of the house he was burglaring comes to mind.

      People are caught by their mistakes, not by the parts they do right.

    10. Re:So he didn't get caught from the e-mail... by phantomfive · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Let's be honest, someone who makes a bomb threat to get out of an exam isn't exactly tipping the scales on the brightness side.........

      He could make a great banker, though.

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    11. Re:So he didn't get caught from the e-mail... by operagost · · Score: 1

      Correct. In the USA, you must remain silent. There is rarely anything you can say in your defense that will help you, and that you invoked your right to remain silent cannot be considered ipso facto evidence of guilt as in less enlightened places.

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    12. Re:So he didn't get caught from the e-mail... by auric_dude · · Score: 1

      "Tor didn't break; Kim did." as suggested by Bruce Schneier via https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2013/12/tor_user_identi.html

    13. Re:So he didn't get caught from the e-mail... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds like he was bound to get a law education from Harvard one way or another.

    14. Re:So he didn't get caught from the e-mail... by Jon_S · · Score: 1

      "savvy enough to wipe his drive" = "dumb enough to risk an obstruction of justice charge in addition to the false bomb scare charge"

      Obstruction of justice often comes with penalties at least as great as for the crime.

    15. Re:So he didn't get caught from the e-mail... by LWATCDR · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "His mistake was admitting it."
      And this is what is wrong with the world. His mistake was calling in a bomb threat to get out of taking an exam.
       

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    16. Re:So he didn't get caught from the e-mail... by zlives · · Score: 1

      as with first, only if he is convicted via the evidence no longer in existence.

    17. Re:So he didn't get caught from the e-mail... by zlives · · Score: 1

      probably would have been better off calling suicide hotline because stress causing to "attempting" suicide

    18. Re:So he didn't get caught from the e-mail... by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 1

      Are you a sociopath? WTF.

      His mistake was calling in a phony bomb threat, which is a crime. Admitting to it instead of trying to weasel out of it is actually the opposite of a mistake.

    19. Re:So he didn't get caught from the e-mail... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Congratulations, the directory now has a ctime of precisely when you used Tor.

    20. Re:So he didn't get caught from the e-mail... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      His mistake was admitting it. They basically had nothing on him, he could have been using Tor for any number of reasons and was not required to explain himself. All he had to do was deny sending the email and assuming he properly secured his browser there would have been no evidence to the contrary.

      Tor is still fine, even if you are the only one on campus using it. That fact alone is meaningless.

      Combine the fact that he was using TOR on campus at the time the email was sent, the fact that he was the only one doing so, and an analysis of the bomb threat compared to his prior writing, and they might have been able to make a circumstantial case. But it would have been hard without the confession, yes.

    21. Re:So he didn't get caught from the e-mail... by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      The best thing to do is just download the Tails live CD. Leave no traces.

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    22. Re:So he didn't get caught from the e-mail... by toddestan · · Score: 1

      It would only be obstruction of justice if he wiped his drive after he learned that he was being investigated.

  8. What an idiot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Really?! Smart man.

    Avoid exam?
    Bomb threat!

    Police arrive?
    Immediately confess!

    The evidence itself was completely circumstantial. Without a confession they surely had nothing.
    They had no way to prove anything other than:
    1. Guerilla Mail was accessed by Tor to send the e-mails.
    2. Kim is a Harvard student that recently accessed Tor.

    1. Re:What an idiot. by gnasher719 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The evidence itself was completely circumstantial. Without a confession they surely had nothing.
      They had no way to prove anything other than:
      1. Guerilla Mail was accessed by Tor to send the e-mails.
      2. Kim is a Harvard student that recently accessed Tor.

      Enough to get a search warrant. So what do you think would a search warrant have shown? Fact is: If you did it, then there is evidence. And if the police thinks you did it, and the case is important enough to search very, very hard, they will find the evidence.

    2. Re:What an idiot. by Zordrak · · Score: 1

      Desktop Encryption.

    3. Re:What an idiot. by ArsenneLupin · · Score: 1

      And if the police thinks you did it, and the case is important enough to search very, very hard, they will find the evidence.

      ... and don't forget "searching very very hard" is an euphemism for "fabricating"...

    4. Re:What an idiot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If he used the TOR browser bundle, it wouldn't have found much. It's specifically designed to avoid keeping a history.

    5. Re:What an idiot. by N1AK · · Score: 2

      Encryption keys aren't protected by the 5th amendment right to silence. If you are asked to provide it by a court and don't then you'll likely in as bad or worse situation than if you did.

    6. Re:What an idiot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fact is: Regardless if the police thinks you did it, and the case is important enough to search very, very hard, they will find the evidence.

      ftfy

    7. Re:What an idiot. by Zordrak · · Score: 1

      Failing to provide/remember decryption key Threatening terrorism in a US university.

    8. Re:What an idiot. by gnasher719 · · Score: 1

      ... and don't forget "searching very very hard" is an euphemism for "fabricating"â¦

      I didn't use "searching very very hard" as such a euphemism, but obviously it's a possibility to consider. If you consider the possibility, you then need to consider whether the police would do that to convict someone, anyone, or only in a case where they are honestly convinced they have the perpetrator.

    9. Re:What an idiot. by LordLimecat · · Score: 1

      Has that been tested?

    10. Re:What an idiot. by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      Has that been tested?

      Yes, it has. The government can compel you to decrypt. But they cannot compel you to admit that you know the key if knowing the key is in itself incriminating. So it is complicated.

    11. Re:What an idiot. by AvitarX · · Score: 1

      I believe it has.

      They are protected, but only if your use of the encryption system is in question (e.g. shared computer), but if your use of said encrypted drive is established, they are not.

      If memory serves correct the sloppy analogy is they go from "something you may or may not know, with the knowledge being usable to incriminate you" to "something you have" which is not particularly protected if the courts are used to obtain it.

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    12. Re:What an idiot. by nctritech · · Score: 1

      You are thinking of Britain. In the United States, you only lose that protection if you do something stupid like boot up and type the password into your encrypted laptop so they can inspect it.

    13. Re:What an idiot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There was a case in Colorado that dealt with it. Perhaps others. I don't believe it is settle law in all of the US Districts.

    14. Re: What an idiot. by ZiggyM · · Score: 1

      Yea of course you wouldnt confess if you knew how the police found him. Im sure when they interviewed him they didnt tell him how they found a match and instead implied something (ie security camera video etc) that made him confess to lower his charges.

    15. Re:What an idiot. by MacAndrew · · Score: 1

      NB: "Circumstantial" and "direct" evidence are not truly meaningful concepts in law. Evidence is evidence. There's no bright line between good and bad.

      Here, he had no way of knowing what they had or might get, and may have been very surprised even to be questioned. I doubt he would have done well lying (which itself itself may be illegal obstruction...you can only insist on silence, which will make them considerably more interested in you). It is legal for the police to lie too, up to a point. A confession isn't proof of guilt either...just evidence.

      Heck, he may have simply had an attack of conscience. He still should have asked for a lawyer first, to get the fairest deal rather than make concessions that may have hurt him more than necessary (sometimes we exaggerate our own guilt or dig a hole through careless words). I'm sympathetic at least that he was under enormous stress. He made a terrible choice.

  9. Sounds like he visited torproject.org recently... by WoTG · · Score: 4, Informative

    I read the PDF (shock).

    It sounds suspiciously like they just checked the logs to see who had visited Tor related websites and then went and interviewed the handful of people who happened to visit these sites within a few days. Maybe interview those who had exams in the 4 listed buildings at the designated time?

    Or, possibly, they just checked who had used Tor in the last few days on their network - can you ID a Tor packet by looking at it?

    It doesn't sound like they needed to crack Tor.

  10. "was able to determine"... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Harvard University was able to determine that, in the several hours leading up to the receipt of the e-mail messages described above, ELDO KIM accessed TOR using Harvard’s wireless network."

    That's interesting. How exactly did they do that? My guess is that they're keeping netflow records of all traffic flowing across their network border and was able to use that to match his connections to one or several known TOR relays.

  11. Re: "because it originated from the wireless netwo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    They contacted the email provider, who gave up access logs for the mail accounts, which revealed that the user had come from Tor. They could correlate those records with Harvard's own records of who logged into their network and used Tor. They questioned him and he confessed; I bet the number of Tor users at Harvard at that time was small enough to brute-force. This is not an instance of the government unmasking a Tor user, this is good police work and a weak willed idiot.

  12. He was caught using Tor, not sending the mail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As far as you can tell from the affidavit, it was detected that the person who sent the e-mail containing the bomb threat was using Tor on the university network. They were not able to prove that it was him.

    After he was confronted with the fact that he was using Tor at that time and that the e-mail was sent by someone using Tor he confessed to sending the e-mail. So in this case they were only able to piece circumstantial evidence concerning the Tor use together to get the suspect to confess. It would be interesting to see how much that evidence would have been worth if he'd kept his mouth shut. Also it would be interesting to see how much possibilities the FBI would have (and would show the outside world they have) to prove that it was indeed his computer from where the e-mail originated.

    1. Re:He was caught using Tor, not sending the mail by east+coast · · Score: 0

      They were not able to prove that it was him.

      It's 2013 in the USofA. The idea of innocent until proven guilty is kind of quaint. There is no valid defense once The Man(tm) has you in the hot seat anymore.

      The world works has changed despite all of our axioms of freedom and liberty... even those We The People hold sacred and haven't been officially recognized as obsolete by Big Brother.

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  13. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by Krneki · · Score: 5, Informative

    In our next lesson we will learn delayed email deliver functionality. Stay tuned!

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  14. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    " as the presumption of innocence would probably compel a jury, in the absence of any other compelling evidence, to find him not guilty."

    LOL, you believe too much what the tv tells you.

  15. So, needs another seven proxies? by magic+maverick+ · · Score: 0

    I'm surprised he did it from his dorm (if, indeed, he actually did it). I thought the sensible thing was to go down to the local public library and/or coffee shop (without cameras) and do your shit from there. And if you can use someone else's wireless, you can still use your own computer and Tor.
    As for "because it originated from the Harvard wireless network", I'm skeptical.

    From the PDF:
    <blockquote>9. Harvard University was able to determine that, in the several hours leading up to the receipt of the e-mail messages described above, ELDO KIM accessed TOR using Harvard&rsquo;s wireless network</blockquote>

    Which, apart from the "confession" is the only evidence that the person alleged to have done it, actually did it. Oh, so someone on campus used Tor, at the same time that an email was sent that had used Tor. Therefore the person sent the email, and not someone else using Tor from another place...

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    1. Re:So, needs another seven proxies? by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 1

      I thought the sensible thing was

      "Sensible" here being used in a wholly relative sense, I assume.

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    2. Re:So, needs another seven proxies? by RabidReindeer · · Score: 2

      I'm surprised he did it from his dorm (if, indeed, he actually did it). I thought the sensible thing was to go down to the local public library and/or coffee shop (without cameras) and do your shit from there.

      Well, assuming that there aren't cameras in the local public library or coffee ship, the challenge is in getting there without showing up on any intermediary cameras.

      That, after all, was one of the first things they scoured after the Marathon bombing.

    3. Re:So, needs another seven proxies? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He could have also, idk, gone right out into Harvard Square, where people are constantly milling about, and wifi is free everywhere. Yes, there are an abundance of cameras, but there are plenty of places without them as well if you bother to look. The library or coffee shop options would have been much higher risk than this by comparison...the dorm was just his way of saying "I'M REALLY NOT READY FOR THIS EXAM".

    4. Re:So, needs another seven proxies? by zippthorne · · Score: 1

      Your public library doesn't have public logins. You will need to log in using your library card or some other account that links to you.

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  16. Re: "because it originated from the wireless netwo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    also, don't make false bomb threats. They're stupid

    Don't make real ones either. They're even stupider.

  17. So he was clever enough ... by Ihlosi · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ... to use TOR, but then gave a full confession during an "interview", throwing his right to remain silent (and to have a lawyer present during questioning) out the window?

    1. Re:So he was clever enough ... by fatphil · · Score: 1

      Perhaps he knew he was both culpable and guilty? He was, after all, probably in the best position to ascertain that.

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    2. Re:So he was clever enough ... by SB9876 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      He called in a bomb threat to delay taking a final. This is a dude that has already shown that he has poor decision making skills.

    3. Re:So he was clever enough ... by Sockatume · · Score: 1

      The kind of intellect that uses a bomb threat to get out of an exam doesn't strike me as the kind that pleads the fifth to get out of a stretch in pokey.

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    4. Re:So he was clever enough ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This sounds like a plea bargain so it'll never see a jury. Most likely during the "investigation" he was threatened with felonies and jail time, followed up by "if you cooperate with us, you'll get a lesser sentence - perhaps even just a misdemeanor", where he gave a confession. If all they have is a confession without absolute proof, I'd question the legitimacy of it.

      Humans are always more likely to take the option with the lowest risk. If faced with 50% risk of jail time and felonies compared NO jail time and felonies, the option with the lowest risk will always win.

      Consider 100% chance of getting $50, or a 50% chance at getting $100, which would you prefer? Statistically, most people will take the $50.

    5. Re:So he was clever enough ... by gnasher719 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      ... to use TOR, but then gave a full confession during an "interview", throwing his right to remain silent (and to have a lawyer present during questioning) out the window?

      We can assume that someone who needs to avoid a test isn't the brightest spark. We can assume that someone who sends a bomb threat to avoid a test is reckless and stupid. We can assume that if someone who is reckless and stupid mails in a bomb threat, and his identity is discovered, then there _will_ be evidence. For example, they had easily enough to get a search warrant for his computer. What are the odds that there is evidence, like a draft of the email, on his computer? Remember: This is not an evil genius trying to disrupt US universities, it is a reckless idiot trying to get out of an exam.

    6. Re:So he was clever enough ... by Kijori · · Score: 2

      I'm not sure that it's really that surprising that he confessed - most people who are convicted of crimes plead guilty.

      And that's not a ridiculous notion; if you did it and have been caught, pleading guilty can get you a pretty hefty discount on your sentence when compared to being convicted at trial. In particular, where, like here, the range of sentences is very wide, it might mean the certainty that you will not go to prison.

    7. Re:So he was clever enough ... by Ihlosi · · Score: 4, Insightful
      I'm not sure that it's really that surprising that he confessed - most people who are convicted of crimes plead guilty.

      You plead guilty right before the trial would start, if anything.

      pleading guilty can get you a pretty hefty discount on your sentence

      And you waive that discount by confessing to a law enforcement officer during an "interview". Because in that case, the court has sufficient evidence to convict you regardless of your plea.

    8. Re:So he was clever enough ... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 2

      ... to use TOR, but then gave a full confession during an "interview", throwing his right to remain silent (and to have a lawyer present during questioning) out the window?

      Outside of pessimists, paranoiacs, and people whose job description involves the word 'uptime', it's normal for someone engaged in 'problem solving' to stop thinking as soon as they find a solution.

      In his case, he started thinking, came up with a multi-layer anonymity plan, and then apparently stopped. When it failed, he suddenly had FBI agents and no additional plan. (Also, basic script-kiddie attempts at hiding online and lying to experienced interrogators in person are two very, very, different skills.)

    9. Re:So he was clever enough ... by quadrox · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That doesn't change the fact that most likely he would be better of consulting a lawyer and not saying anything to the police/FBI/whoever.

    10. Re:So he was clever enough ... by Ihlosi · · Score: 3, Informative
      This sounds like a plea bargain so it'll never see a jury.

      He just gave away any bargaining leverage by confessing to a law enforcement officer. Being able to skip a few days or weeks of trial and the associated costs will be the only advantage of a guilty plea.

      "if you cooperate with us, you'll get a lesser sentence"

      That is a lie, by the way. Law enforcement officers may lie when "interviewing" suspects.

      If faced with 50% risk of jail time and felonies compared NO jail time and felonies, the option with the lowest risk will always win.

      Confessing a to cop will get you all the jail time, every time. It's among the worst possible choices in such a case.

    11. Re:So he was clever enough ... by Lloyd_Bryant · · Score: 2

      We can assume that someone who needs to avoid a test isn't the brightest spark. We can assume that someone who sends a bomb threat to avoid a test is reckless and stupid. We can assume that if someone who is reckless and stupid mails in a bomb threat, and his identity is discovered, then there _will_ be evidence. For example, they had easily enough to get a search warrant for his computer. What are the odds that there is evidence, like a draft of the email, on his computer? Remember: This is not an evil genius trying to disrupt US universities, it is a reckless idiot trying to get out of an exam.

      Did you read a different warrant than I did? I saw *nothing* in the declaration that would count as probably cause for a search warrant, until it got to the part of "he admitted it to me". So most likely they did NOT have enough to get a warrant for his computer (the fact that he accessed TOR on that day wouldn't, by itself, be enough - he could have been using TOR for any number of reasons).

      You were dead on about him not being the sharpest knife in the drawer, though. What probably happened is that the police talked to him (along with everyone else who accessed TOR via the campus network on day in question), noticed that he was *very* nervous when they started talking about the bomb threats, and then proceeded with the standard "good cop/bad cop" interrogation (excuse me, *interview*) technique and got him to confess.

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    12. Re:So he was clever enough ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      And that's not a ridiculous notion

      It is ridiculous that we allow plea bargaining, though. No justice system should have such a thing, and no, I don't care if the courts get clogged. Justice/freedom above all.

    13. Re:So he was clever enough ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So you want him to get away instead even if he was guilty because of some lawyer technicality or incompetence from a jury of his peers?

    14. Re: So he was clever enough ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He already got what he wanted, to avoid taking final exam. Now he'll have 5 years to prep for it.

    15. Re:So he was clever enough ... by fatphil · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      From society's perspective, he'd be better off eating rat poison.
      Why are you wishing the best for a dumbass criminal?

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    16. Re:So he was clever enough ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Plea bargaining could be a good thing. But only as long as it only gave a chance of a reduced sentence (recommendation from prosecutor to judge) and not a completely different charge.

    17. Re:So he was clever enough ... by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Let this be a lesson: never take legal advice from an unqualified windbag on a tin-pot website.

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    18. Re:So he was clever enough ... by ysth · · Score: 2

      Because there are other, innocent people interrogated as he was. And it would be better for them if the police didn't think harsh interrogation produces confessions.

    19. Re:So he was clever enough ... by ArsenneLupin · · Score: 2, Interesting

      He called in a bomb threat to delay taking a final. This is a dude that has already shown that he has poor decision making skills.

      Hey, that's what students do. Don't tell us that you never called in a bomb threat to avoid school or exams?

      The difference was, in the old days, school personnel knew that this is a standard student prank, and acted accordingly (namely, not at all). Only today, in this post-911 world have people become so paranoid that they take obvious prank calls at face value...

    20. Re:So he was clever enough ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Plea bargaining as a whole is not a good thing. Every case should have to go to court. This would make them think more carefully about trying to convict people for ridiculous things, and thugs wouldn't be able to scare innocents into submission.

    21. Re:So he was clever enough ... by ysth · · Score: 1

      You think they couldn't get a warrant based on TOR activity at the 8:30am time of the emails and a 9am test? I think you are likely wrong.

    22. Re:So he was clever enough ... by Kijori · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure that it's really that surprising that he confessed - most people who are convicted of crimes plead guilty.

      You plead guilty right before the trial would start, if anything.

      I'm sure that you're correct in relation to your jurisdiction, but in many (I suspect most) jurisdictions there's an opportunity to plead in advance of the trial, at an appearance specifically for that purpose.

      This makes sense if you think about the point of allowing these discounts - saving time and cost. A pleading hearing is much cheaper than arranging a trial just for someone to plead guilty at the outset. (You can still do that, but you might not get such a significant discount on your sentence, since you had an earlier opportunity to plead guilty).

      pleading guilty can get you a pretty hefty discount on your sentence

      And you waive that discount by confessing to a law enforcement officer during an "interview". Because in that case, the court has sufficient evidence to convict you regardless of your plea.

      Again, I'm sure that you are correct in relation to your jurisdiction, but that is not always the case - you can generally either i) agree a bargain with the prosecutor in which they agree to pursue lesser charges; or ii) use it in mitigation at trial (i.e. it will be considered by the judge, who will have guidelines saying that an X% reduction is appropriate where someone confessed at the earliest opportunity).

      As above, that makes sense in terms of 'rewarding' people for saving as much time and expense on the part of the justice system as possible, and so it would be unusual to design a system that rewards people for waiting to plead guilty.

    23. Re:So he was clever enough ... by quadrox · · Score: 1

      Why do you think I was wishing the best for him?

      OP was asking how he could be clever enough to use TOR, but then apparently not clever enough to ask for a lawyer instead of confessing. This has nothing to do with what is right, it is simply about acting rationally (not implying the bomb-threat was rational in the first place).

      Your response was that since he was guilty, confessing was the right thing to do. That may be true, but is besides the point. OP was not discussing whether confessing would be morally right, but whether it made sense for someone who clearly puts his own interests before those of others.

    24. Re:So he was clever enough ... by Ihlosi · · Score: 2
      there's an opportunity to plead in advance of the trial

      Even if there is - cops do not have any authority to influence the sentence in any way. If you want to make deals, you'll have to talk to the prosecutor and the judge. Not to cops. Cops will merely be witnesses during the trial and happily testify that you confessed to them.

    25. Re:So he was clever enough ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nah, it's creative thinking. This guy is prime CEO material.

    26. Re:So he was clever enough ... by Kijori · · Score: 1

      That sentence is part of the rest of my post - it makes no sense to take it out of context and disagree with it alone.

      Cops can be given authority to offer a deal by the prosecutor (not the judge - you won't even have been assigned a judge at this point). Alternatively, a person can be given credit by the judge in the absence of any deal, as outlined in my post.

    27. Re:So he was clever enough ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure that it's really that surprising that he confessed - most people who are convicted of crimes plead guilty.

      You plead guilty right before the trial would start, if anything.

      There's an important step long before the trial, and one that gives prosecutors great leeway. The human prosecutor gets to decide what to charge you with and what to ignore. We usually hear about that on /. when someone is facing charges worth 50, or 250, years for downloading a couple of files, but it goes the other way, too. If you demonstrate remorse and show that you know what you did was completely dumb-shit irresponsible, then the prosecutor might decide to charge you with "being a dumb kid" instead of "being a foreign terrorist trying to violently destroy the American Way." If you make them go through the effort of an investigation and repeatedly deny any wrongdoing or involvement with the hope that things will go your way, then you should expect them to pile on the worst charges possible to pressure you into that trial-saving confession. Your negotiating position at that point is going to be terrible and the people you're negotiating with are going to be filled with animosity.

    28. Re:So he was clever enough ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is wholely incorrect. It was standard procedure for schools to use their fire drill evacuation procedures when bomb threats were called in. Please stop spreading FUD.

    29. Re:So he was clever enough ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agreed. The standard for probable cause isn't as high as some people think it is.

    30. Re:So he was clever enough ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, that's what students do. Don't tell us that you never called in a bomb threat to avoid school or exams?

      The difference was, in the old days, school personnel knew that this is a standard student prank, and acted accordingly (namely, not at all). Only today, in this post-911 world have people become so paranoid that they take obvious prank calls at face value...

      The reaction can partly be explained by the fact that it's just down the street from where the Tsarnaevs built their bomb that killed 4 people last spring. (and would have killed a bunch more if there hadn't been a row of ambulances there) However there does appear to be a lot of over-reaction - no one wants to be accused of not taking a terrorism threat seriously, even if everyone involved knows that it's one that shouldn't be taken seriously. (and honestly, in today's political climate, if someone ignored a threat as a prank and by some freak chance it turned out to be real they would be crucified, so this over-caution gets perpetuated.)

      They sort-of-locked down the high school (a block or two down the street) during the incident - the main impact was that students had to eat lunch in the cafeteria instead of crossing the street for pizza. Besides the various other legal woes he's facing, the kid who pulled this prank should have to pay Angelo's for a day of lost business :-)

    31. Re:So he was clever enough ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't tell us that you never called in a bomb threat to avoid school or exams?

      Why not? Would it make you feel bad that there are others who are not that stupid?

      Even if I had wanted to delay an exam, I'd never have been so stupid to make a bomb threat. After all, there are those nice fire alarm buttons virtually everywhere in the building ...

    32. Re:So he was clever enough ... by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Cops can be given authority to offer a deal by the prosecutor

      Any agreement not in writing ain't worth the paper it's printed on.

      But the cops will only make a deal like that if they're trying to get other information out of you...

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    33. Re:So he was clever enough ... by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      From society's perspective, he'd be better off eating rat poison.

      Citation needed.

      Why are you wishing the best for a dumbass criminal?

      Because he is, however stupid, a human being.

      Grow some empathy. He clearly needs a course in it himself, and to be kept away from situations where he might harm other people, but what will happen to him now will not benefit society.

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    34. Re:So he was clever enough ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Even in the 1980s (when HS students would call in bomb threats to avoid exams) we would all get evacuated and the police would come out with bomb sniffing dogs.

      I don't know when that kind of thing started to be taken seriously, but it was way before 9/11.

    35. Re: So he was clever enough ... by Kijori · · Score: 2

      As I explained before, the aim of these policies is not to try to secure convictions that otherwise would not be obtained (although obviously that will still sometimes occur). The aim is to avoid the expense of a lengthy trial.

      For that reason, in many (if not most) jurisdictions, a sentence reduction will automatically be considered by the judge, whether there is agreement from the prosecutor or not. It doesn't matter what the particular cops want from you - it's a systemic policy, and the system wants to avoid trials.

    36. Re:So he was clever enough ... by Hatta · · Score: 1

      that makes sense in terms of 'rewarding' people for saving as much time and expense on the part of the justice system as possible

      No, this is no reward. This is punishment for exercising your right to a trial. It doesn't save time and expense at all. What it really does is fills our prisons to capacity, including a large number of innocent people who were extorted out of their right to a trial. Plea bargaining is barbaric.

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    37. Re: So he was clever enough ... by Hatta · · Score: 1

      As I explained before, the aim of these policies is not to try to secure convictions that otherwise would not be obtained

      Bullshit. The aim of these policies is to pad prosecutor conviction rates so they can appear "tough on crime". No prosecutor ever got reappointed, or reelected, because he released innocent people.

      The aim is to avoid the expense of a lengthy trial.

      By depriving citizens of their rights. Sorry, civilization is expensive. It's worth the cost!

      it's a systemic policy, and the system wants to avoid trials.

      This much I agree with you on. The system wants to deprive us of our right to a trial.

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    38. Re: So he was clever enough ... by Kijori · · Score: 1

      I agree to an extent. Plea bargaining in the sense you see on TV - "plead guity to the jaywalking or we seek the death penalty" - is, to my mind, blackmail. I don't know to what extent that exists in reality, however.

      On the other hand I don't see anything wrong with setting the sentencing guidelines on the assumption that there will be a trial, and then offering a reduction for an early plea. It's in nobody's interest to spend public money trying someone who is willing to plead guilty, and I don't think that there is anything objectionable in rewarding an early plea.

      We should be astute to minimize false confessions, but that has to be balanced against the very large cost and time savings. To my mind, systems where an early plea is considered by the judge in mitigation strike a reasonable balance.

    39. Re: So he was clever enough ... by Kijori · · Score: 1

      I agree to an extent. Plea bargaining in the sense you see on TV - "plead guity to the jaywalking or we seek the death penalty" - is, to my mind, coercion. I don't know to what extent that exists in reality, however.

      On the other hand I don't see anything wrong with setting the sentencing guidelines on the assumption that there will be a trial, and then offering a reduction for an early plea. It's in nobody's interest to spend public money trying someone who is willing to plead guilty, and I don't think that there is anything objectionable in rewarding an early plea.

      We should be astute to minimize false confessions, but that has to be balanced against the very large cost and time savings. To my mind, systems where an early plea is considered by the judge in mitigation strike a reasonable balance.

    40. Re:So he was clever enough ... by Sir_Eptishous · · Score: 1

      That doesn't change the fact that most likely he would be better of consulting a lawyer and not saying anything to the police/FB/whoever.

      There, fixed that for you.

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    41. Re:So he was clever enough ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In my father's high school, there was a bomb threat called in almost every week. It got to the point where people would even expect it. One time, a student heard some whispering in a group of teachers in the cafeteria implying that a threat had been called in, and asked, "why aren't we evacuating?" The teacher replied, "the caller said the bomb won't go off until 3:30, so we're going to finish lunch first - there's no rush." It turned out that it was a student who was a crossing guard and liked the feelings of self-importance he got when he helped everyone cross the street away from the building. He had been making the calls for half the school year from the payphone right outside the school office!

    42. Re:So he was clever enough ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He called in a bomb threat to delay taking a final. This is a dude that has already shown that he has poor decision making skills.

      This isn't new.

      Twenty years ago when I was in college it happened sometimes during exam season. The school's policy was to take threats seriously, call in the authorities for a search, but not cancel exams unless something was found.

    43. Re: So he was clever enough ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Everybody knows that you don't talk to the police.

      Also, don't forget that 911 is such a joke.

    44. Re:So he was clever enough ... by fatphil · · Score: 1

      > Why do you think I was wishing the best for him?

      Because you said "... he would be better of [sic]... "

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    45. Re: So he was clever enough ... by Hatta · · Score: 2

      Plea bargaining in the sense you see on TV - "plead guity to the jaywalking or we seek the death penalty" - is, to my mind, coercion. I don't know to what extent that exists in reality, however.

      In reality, fewer than 10% of criminal cases go to trial. Fewer than 2% of federal criminal cases go to trial. Mandatory minimum sentences run in the multiple decades, making a bid for a trial an extremely risky proposition. This is extortion, plain and simple.

      It's in nobody's interest to spend public money trying someone who is willing to plead guilty

      Only if you assume that he is actually guilty, and not an innocent person assuming that he's going to be railroaded at trial, and taking the only chance he sees to minimize the damage.

      that has to be balanced against the very large cost and time savings.

      If it's not worth paying for a trial, it's not worth prosecuting at all. If you can't afford to offer your citizens trials, the solution isn't to shovel people into prisons until you have the largest prison population in the world(which we do, and it's not saving us any money either). The solution is to reexamine your laws, figure out the ones that are worth having, and which ones you can't afford.

      A real justice system doesn't cost us money, it saves us money. e.g. if we stopped prosecuting murders, chaos would ensue, and we would stop having a functioning economy. That would cost us a lot more than it would to prosecute murders. If we stopped prosecuting drunken driving, carnage on the highways would discourage people from using it, damaging our economy. Again that would cost us more than DUI enforcement. And that's just considering economic damage, and not the human costs.

      So all this talk about cost saving is quite frankly bullshit. If the laws you are enforcing aren't paying for themselves, directly or indirectly, it's a bad law. Trying to save money on top of the inherent payoff of justice by denying us our rights is incredibly wrongheaded.

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    46. Re:So he was clever enough ... by fatphil · · Score: 1

      > what will happen to him now will not benefit society.

      So his non-existence would be better for society than his continued existence?

      You don't see any contradiction in what you've just written? 'Cos I do.

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    47. Re:So he was clever enough ... by fatphil · · Score: 1

      Complete agreement on that point.

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    48. Re:So he was clever enough ... by chihowa · · Score: 1

      The sad thing (not sad for this dipshit, but sad for obsessive over-planners) is that his plan didn't even really fail. There was certainly a hitch, in that he was a suspect, but they likely didn't have any real evidence on him. Like you said, had he only planned for this little contingency, he would possibly not be in this situation.

      This, in general, always shocks me about criminals: they never plan for getting caught. Even if they come up with elaborate plans for their crimes, they rarely seem to have backup (or even escape) plans. ...though, I suppose that there's some selection bias here (we most often catch those who don't plan well).

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    49. Re:So he was clever enough ... by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      So his non-existence would be better for society than his continued existence?

      Your logical fallacy is the false dichotomy. There's lots of room in between murder and waving goodbye. Rehabilitation, it's not just a word in other nations in the developed world.

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    50. Re:So he was clever enough ... by Lloyd_Bryant · · Score: 1

      You think they couldn't get a warrant based on TOR activity at the 8:30am time of the emails and a 9am test? I think you are likely wrong.

      If they got such a warrant, it would have been thrown out (along with the seized evidence) later, assuming he had a decent lawyer. Your logic assumes that that police already knew that the bomb threat was made in order for a student to evade an exam. But they had no evidence of that until *after* he confessed. The bomb threat could just as easily have been made by someone who wanted to spook a student who was taking the exam. Or for a reason unrelated to the exam at all...

      And added to this is the fact that the police had no evidence whatsoever that the bomb threat was made via Harvard's network. That was just a (not unreasonable) guess. But such guesses, while a staple of police investigative technique, are NOT evidence.

      So at most, the cops had a guess as to the reason for the bomb threat, a guess as to where the bomb threat was sent from, and some evidence that *if* the bomb threat was sent via Harvard's network then this person *might* have been the one to send it. Hardly what I would call "probable cause".

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    51. Re:So he was clever enough ... by traycerb · · Score: 1

      In college, one of the EE professors recounted a story about a frantic call he got the day before a test. The student said he had been in a bad car accident, was calling from the hospital, and asked if he could take the test next week. The professor assured him that, of course, this would be no problem, but noted the test was not in fact tomorrow, but the same day next week. The student cursed and hung up the phone.

      I always thought that the student should have been smarter and played it cool, "Oh thank God! I was so worried." etc and then the professor would have been none the wiser. But I guess if he was smarter, he wouldn't need to avoid taking the test...

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    52. Re:So he was clever enough ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... to use TOR, but then gave a full confession during an "interview", throwing his right to remain silent (and to have a lawyer present during questioning) out the window?

      I take it you've never been interrogated by the FBI? It's easy to plan to remain silent in theory, not so easy when the time comes. They are really, really good at getting people to confess.

    53. Re:So he was clever enough ... by AvitarX · · Score: 1

      I'm class of '99, and we definitely had to all go outside while po po went through the school due to a bomb threat a couple times a year.

      They also generally would find out who it was, they did this to make it costly to call in a threat, and therefore reduce the number.

      Pretty sure this was pre columbine even (I think that was my senior year).

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    54. Re:So he was clever enough ... by fatphil · · Score: 1

      No, your sentence had an unambiguous statement of what "will" be. The only way that could be made not true, according to *your own certainty*, is if he were to blink out of existence. You did not include the concept or possibility of rehabilitation in the sentence I was responding to.

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    55. Re:So he was clever enough ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      First, police get a lot of leeway when it comes to probable cause. How many students on Harvard do you think are using Tor at exactly that time? You don't think the only connection on campus to Tor at the exact same time the threat was made by a student that just happened to have an exam in one of those buildings doesn't count as probable cause? It may have been GUESS, as you stated, that a student was trying to evade an exam but once they've seen the suspicious traffic it certainly sounds like probable cause to me. Now maybe there was TONS of Tor traffic going on at campus at that time, what do I know, but I don't think that assumption is out of line.

      And second, warrants are signed by judges. If the police had a warrant then it was not going to be thrown out later. The way of the law these days is to use the exclusionary rule sparingly. My Crim Pro professor sucked, but he seemed pretty confident that a warrant probably wasn't getting tossed unless it was in bad faith or procedurally fucked up.

    56. Re: So he was clever enough ... by Kijori · · Score: 1

      I would just make two short points, which I have set out below:

      1. Net outcome
      The first is simple to the point of being obvious. If you can reduce the amount of money spent on a trial, all else being equal, that is an advantage. If someone if wrongly convicted that is a very large disadvantage. If you can mitigate the disadvantages - for example through free access to lawyers, judicial scrutiny of confessions, and appeals - so that you get a lot of small advantages with very few disadvantages, the net result can be strongly positive.

      I would note here that, whether or not you accept your view that all good laws lead to economic gain (which, for the reasons set out below, I don't think I do) the resources of the justice system are not limitless, and so there are very real drawbacks to opposing cost-savings.

      As you note, the vast majority of cases that end in conviction are disposed of by a guilty plea. If even a fraction of those were instead disposed of by trial, it would almost certainly mean significant increases in the average delay before trial, which means people being held in custody or subject to bail conditions for longer, the memory of witnesses decaying, and so forth.

      I could list many more problems with putting more pressure on an overburdened system, but I don't think that there is any need. My point is just that removing incentives to plead guilty will have negative consequences, as well as the positive consequences that you note and the additional expense.

      2. Economic appraisal

      I don't think that I agree with your argument that a good law will have positive economic outcomes, and so no cost saving is necessary.

      The first point is that there is a logical problem with the statement that "if the laws you are enforcing aren't paying for themselves, directly or indirectly, it's a bad law", in that it must assume some level of cost saving - you presumably aren't arguing that a good law will always pay for itself, regardless of the inefficiency of the justice system. How do you choose the benchmark level of efficiency? It will always be a value judgement - you are saying that you have chosen an appropriate balance between cost and safety of convictions. But you could always choose to be more cautious, and some of the laws of which you approve would then be "bad laws" because they would no longer pay for themselves.

      The second point is that, more generally, I am not convinced that an economic analysis is really sufficient to judge the merit of different laws, especially when the cost of prosecution varies enormously. You would have to do the analysis to work it out, but I wouldn't be surprised if some crimes that pose very acute difficulties for the prosecutor - crimes against children or the mentally incapable, for example, or white-collar crimes that can require years of expensive expert analysis - might be on the "bad laws" side of your criterion, but I don't think that we should stop trying to punish criminals who choose to commit crimes that are unusually expensive to prosecute.

      Not to mention some of the perverse outcomes that you could imagine - when do we judge whether a law is "bad"? Can laws go from being good, to bad, to good again as economic conditions change, because that changes the economic consequences of enforcement?

    57. Re: So he was clever enough ... by Kijori · · Score: 1

      I've replied to what I think is the substance of your post - the point regarding costs - in another reply below. Just for completeness, a couple of brief responses in relation to your other points:

      Bullshit. The aim of these policies is to pad prosecutor conviction rates so they can appear "tough on crime". No prosecutor ever got reappointed, or reelected, because he released innocent people.

      Personally, I think that elected prosecutors are a very poor choice, and I agree with you that they lead to over-zealous prosecutions (especially where the defendant has a high profile).

      Sentencing discounts, however, are not necessarily related - they are offered in jurisdictions such as the UK, that don't have elected prosecutors.

      I don't know whether elected prosecutors actually try to take advantage of plea bargaining in this way - I suspect that there's a countervailing influence because they want a big showy trial - but it might be the case. If they are, however, I think the solution is to get rid of elected prosecutors.

      This much I agree with you on. The system wants to deprive us of our right to a trial.

      There will always be innocent people who are convicted - either after a guilty plea or without. I'm not arguing that we should therefore be complacent, but I think that there are safeguards that can mitigate the additional risk to a satisfactory level - four reasonably common examples would be i) the right to see a lawyer for free; ii) judicial scrutiny of confessions; iii) a requirement for confessions to be in writing; and iv) the ability to retract a confession (the confession would then be evidence in the trial, but could be rebutted if, for example, there was evidence of coercion). Those are all fairly common, and, in my view, with all four safeguards the additional risk is reduced sufficiently for the trade-off to be a positive one.

      Remember that (as detailed in my post below) removing incentives to plead guilty has negative consequences too, so there is a balance to be struck.

  18. How did they do it? by it0 · · Score: 4, Informative

    From the pdf

    "Harvard University was able to determine that, in the several hours leading up to the
    receipt of the e-mail messages described above, ELDO KIM accessed TOR using Harvardâ(TM)s
    wireless network."

    So Harvard keeps track of your connections. Still circumstancial but he confessed.
    "KIM then stated that he authored the bomb threat e-mails described above."

    1. Re: How did they do it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not only Harvard, ALL college and university schools that me and my girlfriend went to are requiring students to use an ID and are tracking them.

    2. Re: How did they do it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Which is fucking awful. I really hope a truly anonymous protocol shows up soon.

    3. Re:How did they do it? by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 3, Insightful

      All the campus networks I've seen remotely recently do some sort of access control, if only to avoid being a free wifi provider for every porn-torrent enthusiast in the neighborhood. Sometimes 802.11x, sometimes that bloody awful Cisco VPN monstrosity.

      What's more notable is that they apparently keep traffic logs for some amount of time, at least long enough to catch this guy, who knows how much longer?

      If you have a network of any nontrivial size, and want to keep it from falling in a screaming heap (especially with the lousiness of wireless links in the mix), taking steps to ensure that most of the users are the ones you are supposed to be providing service to, and doing some QoS to keep them from stepping on each others' toes is basically necessary. Keeping traffic logs, though, is an additional chunk of effort and expense, and all so that people will be motivated to come bug you for access to them. I wonder when they started keeping logs, and why.

    4. Re: How did they do it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's nto their bandwidth, why the fuck is that awful? You dont think a university has a right to know what's going on on ITS network?

    5. Re: How did they do it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      If you don't want to comply with the terms of use of someone else's network, then don't use their network. It's extremely simple. When you're invited into someone's house and they say feel free to grab a drink from the fridge, if you then proceed to load up your car trunk by taking everything in their fridge, you don't get to protest when they call you an assclown.

    6. Re:How did they do it? by Threni · · Score: 1

      Guess that's the thing now... show that TOR isn't violated and that each time someone's caught using it demonstrate/create some weakness that explains it. (Sort of like during WW2 where it was crucial we didn't betray the fact we cracked Enigma so we had to send planes over the German submarines so we had a cover for how we knew where they were so they didn't realize we pwned them).

      The message is - keep using TOR kids - it's totally safe.

    7. Re:How did they do it? by quetwo · · Score: 1

      Most likely they had to put them in due to agreements with the MPAA and RIAA. Back about 6 or 7 years ago when music piracy was still at the tips of everyone's tongues, these organizations threatened to sue most of the major universities for aiding and abetting piracy if they didn't track what their users were doing. Most schools put in IDP systems on their outer-most gateways to the world to capture the data out of band for a short amount of time.

    8. Re: How did they do it? by qwe123 · · Score: 1

      Check out http://www.i2p2.de/.

    9. Re:How did they do it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Traffic to Tor exit nodes are monitored because of malware.

    10. Re:How did they do it? by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 1

      ELDO KIM accessed TOR

      I know what TOR stands for, but what does ELDO KIM mean?

      ^joke

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    11. Re:How did they do it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ELDO KIM = OLD MIKE

    12. Re:How did they do it? by Rhywden · · Score: 3, Interesting

      While we were forced to use DPI in order to catch people torrenting movies (our university threatened to pull the plug otherwise!), we also used it to catch the inevitable Worm infections or Botnets.

      Such computers were isolated from the rest of the net and (almost) all HTTP traffic was redirected (save for traffic to know antivirus software providers) to a page which stated that their computed was infected with Zeus, Conficker or whatever else is floating around there. And that they were to clean up their PCs and that we also recommended a complete wipe. They then had to type in "Yes, I understand" and were given a 24 hour grace period. If, after that time period, their PC was still infected they were off the net until they proved a complete reinstall to us.

    13. Re:How did they do it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Any major organization does this. Signature based intrusion detection systems connected to a SIEM. Most of these aren't configured to log payload, it's too much volume by default. In FOSS terms, think Snort with a custom signature set and a proprietary correlation engine doing real-time alerting and monitoring.

      It's helpful to track worm breakouts, hack attacks, etc, etc. Often you outsource the monitoring because real-time 24x7x365 monitoring analysis and response runs a lot of money.

      The Tor signature probably fired on some sensors in the centre http://www.iss.net/security_center/reference/vuln/TOR_Client_Request.htm . The IP was authenticated with 802.1x and that's all they needed to shake him down until he confessed.

    14. Re:How did they do it? by Jherek+Carnelian · · Score: 1

      Guess that's the thing now... show that TOR isn't violated and that each time someone's caught using it demonstrate/create some weakness that explains it.

      Unlikely. The reason being that if TOR is compromised then they wouldn't use the compromise for every minor crime because each time they used it, they would risk making the compromise public no matter what cover stories they used.

      If the kid had really planted bombs then they probably would go all out. But it was just a hoax, not worth risking a major intelligence asset for such a trivial crime.

    15. Re:How did they do it? by hweimer · · Score: 1

      All the campus networks I've seen remotely recently do some sort of access control, if only to avoid being a free wifi provider for every porn-torrent enthusiast in the neighborhood.

      To the contrary, Harvard operates another wireless network called "Harvard Guest" that does not require a Harvard ID for accessing the internet.

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    16. Re: How did they do it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Korean for dipshit

    17. Re:How did they do it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > I wonder when they started keeping logs, and why.

      You're kidding, right? Most businesses and organizations of any size log traffic to catch inappropriate / excessive use.

    18. Re: How did they do it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, because Comcast or Verizon or whatever you use isn't tracking your data usage. How the hell do they bill for overages on their "unlimited" plans, then?

      Think, McFly, think!

    19. Re:How did they do it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's more notable is that they apparently keep traffic logs for some amount of time, at least long enough to catch this guy, who knows how much longer?

      Netflow / sFlow records don't take up a lot of room, relatively speaking.

    20. Re:How did they do it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, how good are current DPI's at detecting encrypted torrents, (obfuscated) tor and i2p?

    21. Re:How did they do it? by thoromyr · · Score: 2

      logs are kept because you need them. I wouldn't expect it to be apparent to someone who has never had to manage a real network, but logs and a reasonable retention are essential. There is a basic tension at work, though. You need logs from a management perspective, the more the better, but the more you have the greater your liability.

      For something basic like netflow (which any sane network administrator is going to have) you might have months of data. Places will vary, and some insist they need years, others go with less and some do without. But there's more than just netflow (which is just essential metadata about network traffic), you might use Bro to log web requests or copy out executables, or even just dump the whole stream to disk. The latter takes a large amount of disk space and *significantly* increases liability so places vary from not doing it to keeping an incredible amount (12+ months).

      How does it help network administrators? Netflow data is pretty essential to almost any trouble shooting task on the network. A complaint about traffic being dropped can be confirmed or denied by netflow lookup. Need to know what hosts an IP talked to? On certain ports? Doing a basic plausability check for data exfiltration? URL logging gives a trace for a compromise and can then be used to construct indicators of compromise. Capturing exe's on the fly is helpful in post mortem: what exe was downloaded to a compromised host? Do AV companies know about it yet? Full packet captures are extremely helpful in retrospection and can fill in the rest of the blanks. Especially if you are into the questionable practice of MITM the SSL connections.

      How does it increase liability? When hit with ediscovery if you've got it you have to produce it. This can get expensive, very expensive if you are doing full pcaps.

      Setting retention is a matter of finding a balance between what you need for trouble shooting and can afford to copy and maintain indefinitely. Without dropping below a certain minimum retention that is not really defined, but can hit you in court (a while back slashdot miscovered a company that got in trouble because they didn't log anything to disk which was sufficiently out of line with norms for the line of business they were in to get them in trouble). It matters what your peers are doing.

      We have varying retention even for essentially the same data depending on where/how it is being logged/stored. Sometimes these differences amount to bureaucratic/political, other times it is based on capacity of a particular data store. Retention might be defined as a volume of data (10GB), fraction of capacity (90%) or a span of time (30 days).

      Access control logging (I assume you are referring to logging authentication events) very likely have considerable lifetime at any facility, but the ability to map specific traffic to a user might be considerably less. For example, many universities employ NAT and depending on specifics of the implementation may or may not be able to map traffic to a user in any given circumstance regardless of retention.

      To the point of ensuring provision of service to users, QoS doesn't cut it -- at least not on a subscriber network. If it was just QoS rules access controls wouldn't even be relevant. But to do meaningful traffic shaping (which QoS is not) does require *some* form of user mapping. It could be done anonymously, though in practice I don't see how that would work well (for reasons having nothing to do with fair queuing).

      I think I've answered the question as to why keep logs. If not then talk to an administrator, whether it be server or network. Once you gain an understanding of what the job requires the keeping of logs makes sense and there's the risk of going whole hog and keeping too much. Which is when the legal liability aspect needs to be considered.

    22. Re: How did they do it? by hawkinspeter · · Score: 1

      Is that like saying that an electricity company has the right to see how their electricity is used?

      A paper manufacturer has the right to read whatever you write on their products?

      A gynaecologist has the right to film any sexual congress performed with genitals that he has worked with?

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    23. Re:How did they do it? by SecurityTheatre · · Score: 1

      Keeping firewall logs is a standard activity to be able to respond to malware and other types of attacks.

      Your average top-of-the-line firewall like a Palo Alto is generally configured to keep all transaction logs for 1-5 years, depending on traffic volume and needs.

      They can do cool reporting of "change in traffic over time" and pull metrics on how BitTorrent traffic from a set of IPs is more/less than it was in the same period a year prior, etc.

      And, it can help with investigations.

      This is done. Be aware of it, but it's not going to go away, unfortunately. It's too valuable to network admins and the people who pay for the bandwidth.

    24. Re:How did they do it? by SecurityTheatre · · Score: 1

      Modern firewalls (Checkpoint, Palo Alto, Juniper) include IPS features and generally log all sessions by default until the disk is full. If you give it a few TB of space, you can keep years of logs on individual TCP sessions....

      It's common practice in business (and education).

    25. Re:How did they do it? by zippthorne · · Score: 1

      Circumstantial is not a synonym for weak. Often, the opposite, when you think about it, as the other kind of evidence is witness testimony, which although held in higher regard, can actually be far less reliable. Circumstantial evidence encompasses all of forensic evidence, up to and even including high definition video of the perpetrator committing the crime, walking up to the camera, cutting himself on the lens and leaving behind a full set of bloody fingerprints.

      A witness on the other hand could be remembering wrong, or could not even be a witness - they could have imagined their witnessing based on information leaked to them (on accident or on purpose) during their interview.

      If I'm on a jury, I want to see all the evidence, and I'm not ignoring something just because it's "circumstantial." Insufficiently specific on the other hand..., well, without the confession I'm sure that defense lawyers would have brought in experts to testify about the number of other Harvard students also using Tor.

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  19. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 2

    It doesn't much help his case that circumstantial evidence pointed everyone more or less immediately at the Harvard campus, and thus at the first layer of the 'onion'. Tor is only minimally better (if at all) then straight SSL/TLS if the operator of hop #1 has strong reasons to be suspicious of Tor traffic within a set time period.

  20. uhhh.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    what got him caught was confessing to the FBI that he was the one that did it..

    they didn't trace anything.. the university was able to determine that kim had used tor over the harvard network the morning the threats were sent. entirely circumstantial evidence, but it was obviously enough for the investigators to pressure the kid into confessing.

  21. Well it worked by Chrisq · · Score: 5, Funny

    He made the threat to get out of an exam.

    he won't have to worry about that any more

    1. Re:Well it worked by jeffb+(2.718) · · Score: 1

      Yep. Looks like he's gotten out of all his exams. Win!

    2. Re:Well it worked by drinkypoo · · Score: 0

      He made the threat to get out of an exam.

      he won't have to worry about that any more

      Sadly, he'll now be looking at a whole lot of unplanned midnight exams.

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  22. Harvard by Thanshin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I expected more from a Harvard student.

    A couple of hours of online research should have taught him to, at least, connect through a cracked wifi far from his neighborhood. Or, if he was computer illiterate, to convince someone from another country to send the mails for him.

    Also, once he decided to avoid the exam in a way that could land him in prison, why use a method he didn't understand, instead of burning down the building or paying someone to send the teacher to the hospital?

    However, the first question I would ask him would be if he had considered that simply approaching the teacher and explaining him that he and all his family would be killed unless the exam was postponed, carried a shorter jail time than a terrorist threat.

    In conclusion, clearly in Harvard they are not teaching how to deal with real world problems pragmatically.

    1. Re:Harvard by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The best Harvard students learn that you have no need to conceal your crimes if you can commit them from a position of enough influence to simply make them legal. That's where kiddo slipped up.

    2. Re:Harvard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The guy was too lazy to study for his exam. What makes you think he would have the motivation to do any of that?

    3. Re:Harvard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I expected more from a Harvard student.

      A couple of hours of online research should have taught him....

      Yeah, I think you're missing the point.

      Why would you want to delay an exam so badly that you call in a bomb threat? Because you've slacked off your revision and need more time to cram.

      And you expect him to spend a couple of *extra* hours researching TOR?

    4. Re:Harvard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A couple hours of studying would have prepared him for the exam. Grade inflation there is rampant. The median grade at Harvard these days is A-. How hard could it be just to get a passing grade?

    5. Re:Harvard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You know Harvard is a selective school, right?

    6. Re:Harvard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why didn't he just get a medical certificate from the Freud Squad? I'm guessing he'll be trying to get one now.

    7. Re:Harvard by ChromeAeonium · · Score: 1

      I expected more from a Harvard student.

      As opposed to what, some pleb who could only get into a public state school?

    8. Re:Harvard by prefec2 · · Score: 2

      Yes. That means you must be rich or dedicated and intelligent to study there. However, even the most intelligent people make stupid things and he could also be from the first group. Beside that, I do not believe that Harvard graduates are better in general than graduates from a normal university. They are only better connected to influential people.

    9. Re:Harvard by skovnymfe · · Score: 1

      It's not over yet. Daddy Moneybags can still come to the rescue and get him off with a slap on the wrist.

    10. Re:Harvard by jcr · · Score: 1

      I expected more from a Harvard student.

      Heh. I don't think you've met enough Harvard students.

      -jcr

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    11. Re:Harvard by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 1

      I wouldn't bet on it, short of some sort of psych plea alarming enough that he'll end up in a secure ward.

      This is Boston (well, Cambridge, 'Greater Boston'.) The local security forces have a... less than glorious... history with bomb-related issues. The 9/11 planes took off from Logan, the Mooninite panic made fools of the PD, a couple of losers with essentially zero resources just hand-carried bombs right into the Boston Marathon crowds and walked away, with the cops bringing the entire area to a screeching halt as they bumbled their way toward capturing the less interesting suspect, after substantial delay, and are still embroiled in an unimpressive looking case (complete with an allegedly valuable person of interest who mysteriously had to be shot to death during interrogation...)

      I would be shocked if the PD, FBI, and local DAs aren't licking their lips and smelling blood. They have their man, and bagged him quickly and efficiently, and his 'I made a bomb threat because exams!' position is sympathetic to absolutely no one. I Would. Not. Want. to be him right now.

    12. Re:Harvard by Thanshin · · Score: 1

      I expected more from a Harvard student.

      As opposed to what, some pleb who could only get into a public state school?

      Yes.

    13. Re:Harvard by cyn1c77 · · Score: 1

      I question much of your logic:

      I expected more from a Harvard student.

      A couple of hours of online research should have taught him to, at least, connect through a cracked wifi far from his neighborhood. Or, if he was computer illiterate, to convince someone from another country to send the mails for him.

      Also, once he decided to avoid the exam in a way that could land him in prison, why use a method he didn't understand, instead of burning down the building or paying someone to send the teacher to the hospital?

      Probably because this involves actually hurting people, which goes against most people's morals. He is clearly not a sociopath, he just has really poor decision making skills. Also, both of those methods would have directly connected him to a crime through physical evidence or a witness.

      However, the first question I would ask him would be if he had considered that simply approaching the teacher and explaining him that he and all his family would be killed unless the exam was postponed, carried a shorter jail time than a terrorist threat.

      This approach would have resulted in loss of anonymity, FBI involvement, and once proven false resulted in the same result that he is currently experiencing.

      In conclusion, clearly in Harvard they are not teaching how to deal with real world problems pragmatically.

      It appears that the issue is not isolated to Harvard!

    14. Re:Harvard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I expected more from a Harvard student.

      Heh. I don't think you've met enough Harvard students.

      -jcr

      Which brings to mind a favorite joke (to be applied when someone trots out their credentials as proof of argument).

      You can always tell a Harvard man..... You just can't tell them much.

    15. Re:Harvard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >
      > A couple of hours of online research should have taught him ...
      >

      A couple of hours of studying in his dorm room would have prepared him for the exam and avoided the need for a bomb threat.

    16. Re:Harvard by jcr · · Score: 1

      To be fair, I know one very talented engineer who went to Harvard. I credit him, not Harvard, for his abilities.

      -jcr

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    17. Re:Harvard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The question is what they're selecting for. Grades/intelligence is only part of it. Connections with alumni and deep enough pockets to afford the tuition means they're selecting for e.g. offspring of CEO and high political muckity-muck types. Which means they're (unconsciously) selecting for arrogance with a side of sociopathy.

      Exactly the sort of thing you'd expect in someone calling in a bomb threat to avoid an inconvenience.

    18. Re: Harvard by WheezyJoe · · Score: 1

      I suggest the Admissions Department screwed up. From their own web site, Harvard rejects roughly 95% of its applicants, yet this guy made the cut.

      My guess is he'll get his slap on the wrist, be allowed to graduate, join the Old Boys' Club (to which all Harvard men are entitled), and someday ruin the work of scores of hard-working engineers, driving some company into bankruptcy, and then offer his wisdom for a fee to the Federal government.

      Either way, there'll be a nice fat endowment to the alma mater come tax time. Point is, Harvard sent a lot of outstanding applicants to their safety schools so a dumb guy like this can forever put Harvard on his resume.

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    19. Re:Harvard by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

      You can tell a Harvard man.

      You just can't tell him anything else.

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  23. What a genius by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Anonymity is useless if the pool of suspects is small enough to make you stand out by using it.

    Also, he's a douche and deserved to get caught. Fuck people who think avoiding the consequences of their shitty exam preparaton matters more than an entire university of people losing a workday.

  24. Re:Sounds like he visited torproject.org recently. by fatphil · · Score: 1

    It's another case of "use of a tool which gives you plausable deniability makes you the most likely candidate". Compare multiple-key disk encryption. And guys with stockings over their heads.

    Indeed, all they needed to do was log the initial in-the-open connection to the service that then subsequently hides everything.

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  25. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by Sockatume · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The wonderful thing about shows like CSI is that it convinces criminals to implement absurd technical defences when their crimes will almost certainly be dealt with by old-fashioned police work.

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  26. It seems that Harvard caught him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    From reading it seems to me that he was caught because of the network he was on. To be able to check that he was on TOR it seems that they (Harvard) are saving all the traffic on the network. During the "interview" they probably claimed they would decrypt that traffic and that made him talk.

  27. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    An interesting question might be how many other users of the Harvard wireless network where visited by the FBI & interviewed...

  28. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 1

    (also, don't make false bomb threats. They're stupid)

    . . . it seems that lesson is not on the curriculum at Harvard . . .

    At least the guy wasn't a law student . . . that would have been even more hilarious!

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  29. ...This just shows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... if you're going to bomb someone, don't give a warning.... JUST DO IT! ...... (I think I just infringed Nikes Intellectual property :( )

  30. Time for all the students to use TOR by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Since apparently Harvard is saving all the traffic in their network, everybody should start only using TOR while there.
    And even more since one of their own might face 5 years in prison for a bad prank.

    1. Re:Time for all the students to use TOR by hawkinspeter · · Score: 1

      Although I think the potential sentence is somewhat harsh, he did more than just a bad prank. He essentially threatened everyone in the building and the people concerned weren't to know that the threat was a hoax. Never mind the cost and disruption involved with bomb threats.

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  31. Ohh... scary ... by Misagon · · Score: 1

    When I went to primary school back in the '80s, there was a bomb threat almost every year around exam time at the beginning of summer.

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  32. Re: "because it originated from the wireless netwo by e70838 · · Score: 1, Funny

    In fact, NSA broke TOR and wrote this nice story so that police looks good.

  33. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Was the guy ever catched ? Nope.

    Did this happen during an English class?

  34. Re:Sounds like he visited torproject.org recently. by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 2

    It doesn't sound like they needed to crack Tor.

    Of course, if the NSA has easy and simple ways of cracking Tor . . . they're not going to brag about it anyway:

    "Go ahead, keep using Tor . . . it's safe and we can't crack it . . ."

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  35. Obligatory comment by gravis777 · · Score: 1

    I thought Harvard students were smarter than that.

    1. Re:Obligatory comment by Rande · · Score: 1

      If he was smarter....then he wouldn't have needed to get out of the exam.

    2. Re:Obligatory comment by prefec2 · · Score: 1

      Why do you think Harvard students are smarter than students from other universities? Honestly, Harvard's advantage is it superb network of alumni in high ranking positions.

    3. Re:Obligatory comment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Plus they're smarter

    4. Re:Obligatory comment by sandytaru · · Score: 1

      Harvard and other Ivy League schools are simply brand name, designer degrees. They cost ten times as much, but perform essentially the same function as their Target equivalents. The Target equivalents will likely perform better than the dollar store degrees, however.

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  36. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by Cley+Faye · · Score: 0

    As for bomb threats c'mon if you manage to pull it off its funny. I remember in mid eighties when real bombs were going off in Paris, some joker phoned our school with a bomb threat. The result ? Every kid got to have an early day off. Was the guy ever catched ? Nope. You could say it was incompetence from the french cops. But who knows. It was pre internet, it was pre everything. And no surveillance society either.

    Yeah, you might want to take some vacation, far away, and fast.

  37. Re: "because it originated from the wireless netwo by Cley+Faye · · Score: 1

    It's kind of funny; in the instance of a network that log connection with very few tor users, NOT using tor would have been more efficient at hiding is identity. Should have gone the easy route of seven proxies.

  38. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by RivenAleem · · Score: 3, Interesting

    They didn't know it originated from the wireless network. They knew it came from Tor. I could have sent it, for all they know. What they did know was the time it arrived. They played a hunch that it came locally (someone who planted/discovered the bomb on campus) and checked to see who had used Tor on their network at around that time, it's plain old fashioned detective work.

    Put the suspect in a room with an interrogator and extract a confession ("We have you on the Tor network the exact same time the email for the bomb hoax came through", "You were the only person using it at the time (whether that is true or not) so we know you did it", "This will go a lot easier on you if you confess now"). Will the confession stand? Did they read Miranda rights? Was he offered legal council?

  39. Re: "because it originated from the wireless netwo by oobayly · · Score: 4, Informative

    This reminds me of the news the other day - there have had a few bombs going off recently in Northern Ireland - with warnings. Anyhow, on Monday the news said that a man was being treated for burns in Belfast, which was thought to be linked to sectarian violence, my first thought was "FFS, now they're setting each other on fire", quickly followed by laughter when it turned out the incendiary device he was carrying detonated - serves the stupid fucker right.

  40. RTFA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The FBI says:
    " KIM then stated that he authored the bomb threat e-mails described above"
    So the guy admitted it.
    Admittance is not fault of TOR, but of the guy's low intelligence. Case dismissed.

  41. Re:Sounds like he visited torproject.org recently. by qbast · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ... and they are not going to use it for this kind of case.

  42. then tor clearly wasnt used correctly. by nimbius · · Score: 0
    so we have the relevant paragraph extracted from the PDF

    Harvard University was able to determine that, in the several hours leading up to the receipt of the e-mail messages described above, ELDO KIM accessed TOR using Harvard's wireless network.

    which means one of a few things.
    1. begin the witch hunt. anything that coincidentally happened to access TOR be it a botnet infected laptop or a freshman at a bus stop is now suspect for everything from the bombing of the USS cole to the assassination of president Lincoln. The government gets its boogeyman and Harvard gets its scapegoat for an occurance that happens across countless colleges every year, but means something only because its inconvenienced the children of the cloistered elite.
    2. Harvards wireless is more than it seems. Terms and conditions, network traffic, as well as any requisite clients or software installed should be subject to analysis and investigation by students and staff. greyhat and blackhat alike should find this system of access points intriguing if only for the aformentioned quote.
    in my opinion its probably the latter. students and faculty should cast serious suspicion on the part of Harvards network. an independent investigation into the nature of its operation needs to be conducted and any nefarious evesdroppers exposed. If nothing is found then its a clear case of parents with more brass than sense out for blood.

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    1. Re:then tor clearly wasnt used correctly. by quetwo · · Score: 2

      Every time you join their wireless network, there is a click-through stating you agree that your traffic will be stored, should you do something stupid. Not in those same words, but close enough (at least in a series of two sentences... of which any Harvard student should be able to understand..

      Most of their traffic capturing was put in because of a mandate from the MPAA and RIAA back quite a few years ago. They were either going to be sued for aiding and abetting or they had to keep logs of which students were downloading which Metallica songs. They don't keep the traffic just the IP headers (actually trends, not every IP header). This was very well publicized a few years ago and shouldn't be a surprise to anybody.

      Additionally, the upstream provider is required to conform to CALEA laws anyway, which would have been able to provide the same types of reports. It would have required Harvard's assistance to translate an IP to a person (I'm more than assuming they would have been willing to do this as well). CALEA does not require ISPs to notify that their traffic is being recorded, but guess what -- anything that leaves your network is out there in the open and may be open for inspection.

    2. Re:then tor clearly wasnt used correctly. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      imokwiththis.jpg

      Yeah, there was a huge gap between those lines in the PDF that read almost like "and then a miracle occurred", but that can come out at trial. Let's look closer.

      1. begin the witch hunt. anything that coincidentally happened to access TOR

      That is a reasonable place to start. But the next thing is to narrow it down to means, motive, opportunity. "Motive" is the big filter here - how many students were taking exams in those buildings on that day. That narrows your search pool from 7 billion potential TOR users on the planet, down to several hundred. If nothing shows up in that search pool, widen it, but it's a damn good place to start looking.

      2. Harvards wireless is more than it seems.

      Sure it is, but isn't any LAN of appreciable size? (If you don't like the fact that your LAN administrator has logs of what kind of traffic is going through his routers, go build your own LAN, with blackjack and hookers. In fact, forget the LAN!)

      When you only have a few hundred suspects, you don't have to go through that many logs to find a correlation between a TOR session originating at one of the suspect endpoints and the receipt of the email. That may not be probable cause, but it's reason enough to go and say hello to the guy. If the suspect had been smarter, he... wouldn't have been the type of person to commit the crime in the first place.

      This isn't the sort of case for which NSA-like superpowers are required, nor is parallel construction. The most likely scenario is that this case was cracked with good old-fashioned detective work. Good on ya, Feebs.

  43. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by fatphil · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Why do you want the best for this dipshit?

    If you're *innocent*, don't talk to cops.
    If you're guilty, spill the beans immediately.

    You seem to want to encourage criminals to waste the whole legal system's time? (Which, like everything in the end, is paid for by honest tax-payers.)

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  44. Re:Sounds like he visited torproject.org recently. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's another case of "use of a tool which gives you plausable deniability makes you the most likely candidate". Compare multiple-key disk encryption.

    That's one of the major reasons Tor users encourage others to use Tor too. Same with encryption.

  45. Re:Sounds like he visited torproject.org recently. by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 5, Informative

    Or, possibly, they just checked who had used Tor in the last few days on their network - can you ID a Tor packet by looking at it?

    Depends on who the "you" is. The list of entry nodes is public knowledge. Telecoms/Government agencies probably keep historic lists of entry nodes. So it should be trivial to show a connection to the Tor network. The PDF implied (to me) that the FBI just crossreferenced Harvard's log with their list of entry nodes.

    To technically answer your question: Tor packets don't have a unique signature, but they all are of a known size.

    It doesn't sound like they needed to crack Tor.

    This is one of the best-known ways to deanonymize people using Tor: timestamping entering traffic and exiting traffic. Tor itself explains they have no theoretical way to fix that issue and still maintain a system that is low-latency (there may have been a third feature as well, where they got to pick-2-of-3).

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  46. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by Big+Hairy+Ian · · Score: 1

    What he should have said is he was browsing Silk Road but didn't buy or sell anything.

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  47. This just shows that criminals are stupid by dskoll · · Score: 1

    Most criminals are caught because they are stupid. And most criminals are stupid or they wouldn't get into crime in the first place. On balance, crime is a very high-risk / low-reward activity, so you have to be stupid or desperate to think it's a good idea.

    1. Re:This just shows that criminals are stupid by dhaen · · Score: 1

      No no no, only the stupid criminals get caught. The clever ones just carry on milking us. Some of these are called "bankers"; "politicians"; The already rich...

    2. Re:This just shows that criminals are stupid by adosch · · Score: 2

      The only thing criminal about this is what he's being charged with from a federal law perspective; his actions were just that: stupid. He was going to gain perhaps 24 more hours of study time to get out of a final exam. Using tor was a good idea until you originate it on a campus network --- someone who knew just enough to be microscopically dangerous on the internet. If articles are being written to use tor to make my personal activities on the internet harder for the NSA to correlate, it's gotta be the one-and-only tool right?

      Leave your smart phone at the dorm, give your student ID to a conspirator and have them badge you in at the library, use a laptop you temporarily bought at Walmart 2 weeks ago (which has an excellent return policy within 15 days opened or not), then take a taxi (or walk) down to a local area with free wifi (outside a budget hotel, coffee house or there are still dinks who have open APs), use a fake mac address, and do what you need to do. Kid criminals these days.

      I'm sure some slashdotter will bullet-hole that remark, but for making a digital bomb thread 'these days' I'd say you have to at least do that if you were on such a mission to do so. What happened to the "my immediate family member is suddenly ill? I must go see them for a day" excuse? I've never used that personally, but surely you start small and don't play the final ace right away.

    3. Re:This just shows that criminals are stupid by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 1

      The only thing criminal about this is what he's being charged with from a federal law perspective

      Well, I'd contend the criminal act was calling in a bomb threat.

      his actions were just that: stupid. He was going to gain perhaps 24 more hours of study time to get out of a final exam

      Hence, GP's point about crime being ultra-high-risk/ultra-low-reward.

      We don't typically punish based on the benefit the criminal attempted to receive. I mean, that would be adequate, if:

      1. criminals were fully-informed and fully-rational actors
      2. the only goal was deterrence
      3. the punishment scaled by perceived likelihood of being caught
      4. it were at all possible, to determine what was going through a criminal's mind
      5. society didn't mind the wildly varying punishments for identical crimes
      6. The combination of 4 and 5 did not cause the suspicion (and probable reality) of favoritism, bribery, racism, and other miscarriages of justice.
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  48. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "better... THAN", not 'then'...

  49. Re:m\od 0p by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fuck you, bitch.

  50. Next TV Show Plot? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And thus, the latest plot for the next NBC television show is born. Rogue college student calls in bomb threat and is caught. He must now serve time with the FBI profiling other rogue college students whilst getting into trouble and being generally dubious. In the end, we learn it was all a huge scheme and he actually worked for the CIA.

  51. Re:Sounds like he visited torproject.org recently. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I should use Tor so I also get a visit from the cops every time something happens? No thanks.

  52. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Precisely this. Harvard keeps flow type logs, they found someone using tor. Pigs barfed on him, he cracked and confessed. The kid's a fucking retard, mostly for cranking people.

    Please, don't use Tor to harass and be an asshole.
    Real freedom fighters need Tor, not you and your lulz.

    See who else really needs Tor: https://www.torproject.org/

    And quit being assholes.

  53. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by gl4ss · · Score: 3, Insightful

    legal council? probably not. he's a terrorism suspect after all!!

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  54. What's wrong with PDF formatting? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why is the pdf formatted so badly, do FBI need introduction to LaTeX?

  55. For an exam by prefec2 · · Score: 1

    For an exam there are other solutions to skip out.
    a) Redo the exam next year. If you have a problem with exams in general, see a psychologist. If you were only lazy, learn the next time.
    b) If this is your last chance to get through. You could be sick, you could go to a doctor or psychologist who provides you with proper papers to skip the test.
    c) You could realize that the topic your studying is not the thing you are interested in and find something else which is interesting.
    d) You could throw a butyric acid into the hall of your university. Ok this would get you into real trouble, but not into prison for 5 years.
    e) You could have an accident with a car. It could also be helpful to support option (b).
    f) You could really try to go to the exam. What could possible happen bad? You fail. And? Your still alive. You could still find a way through live for yourself.

  56. Ethics by 24-bit+Voxel · · Score: 1

    It seems they are cutting ethics classes in the Ivy league these days.

  57. Stop hurting TOR! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So, basically FBI didn't see what was sent through TOR, it just happened that this student was apparently the only one using TOR at that time.

    For all you future dissidents, spend a little time reading docs and use obfuscated bridges when accessing TOR, because your ignorance hurts the project's publicity.

  58. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

    Moral of the story: Don't talk to cops.

    You missed the part where he didn't want to take an exam. If he hadn't confessed, he would have had to take it. So he really didn't have a choice.

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  59. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by ls671 · · Score: 1

    (also, don't make false bomb threats. They're stupid)

    Does this mean real ones are smart?

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  60. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by MachineShedFred · · Score: 2

    Rule #9 of the American Justice System: To a jury, any doubt is reasonable; the better the case, the worse the jury; a good man is hard to find, but 12 of them, gathered together in one place, is a miracle.

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  61. Kids these days... by jcr · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If he'd just called it in from a pay phone, they'd never have found him.

    -jcr

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    1. Re:Kids these days... by ysth · · Score: 2

      What is this "pay phone" you mention?

    2. Re:Kids these days... by ArsenneLupin · · Score: 5, Interesting

      If he'd just called it in from a pay phone, they'd never have found him.

      In Luxembourg, a couple of students at the European School did exactly that a few years ago. They were caught pretty quickly, because, you know, payphones have cameras... ("officially" to catch vandalism, but these cams sure did come in handy in this case as well). So, cops just walked with the pix from classroom to classroom until they found the perps.

    3. Re:Kids these days... by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      So, cops just walked with the pix from classroom to classroom until they found the perps.

      Walk into some woods. Change clothes/reverse, put on or take off layers. Pop on a big hat. Walk out of the woods, make the call.

      Or here's a snazzy idea for you. You know they'll call the cops on a bomb threat. Call them yourself. Walk to the edges of signal and call 911 on a used phone you got at a flea market or yard sale, make your bomb threat with them. Don't even need a contract to make an emergency call.

      Note that I think anyone who actually does this does need serious help, and I would never do it, because lives can be lost while emergency services are dicking around with bullshit. Just saying, I've never been to HAH-VAHD and yet I can come up with trivial ways around all of this crap.

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    4. Re:Kids these days... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So, wear a ski mask and go to a pay phone. Problem solved again...

    5. Re:Kids these days... by ArsenneLupin · · Score: 1

      Walk into some woods. Change clothes/reverse, put on or take off layers. Pop on a big hat. Walk out of the woods, make the call.

      These cameras are well hidden. When the news of the arrest were announced, it was quite a surprise (... and some outrage...) that these existed at all. Probably the kids didn't bother with dressing up because they never suspected they could get caught that way. And if they had known, a well-placed blob of chewing gum would have achieved the same goal much more easily...

    6. Re:Kids these days... by UnknowingFool · · Score: 1

      Then there are also all the other cameras like ATMs, street cameras, etc. It would take more effort to correlate when someone was walking towards the phone before the call and away from the phone after the call, but it can be done.

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    7. Re:Kids these days... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Payphones, the last few that exist anyway, do not have cameras in the US.

    8. Re:Kids these days... by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      These cameras are well hidden. When the news of the arrest were announced, it was quite a surprise (... and some outrage...) that these existed at all.

      What kind of asshole would assume that in the age of fifty dollar tablets, there's not a security camera on a thousand-plus-dollar payphone?

      And if they had known, a well-placed blob of chewing gum would have achieved the same goal much more easily...

      But then you have to be sneaky when approaching the phone. Better to be disguised before you ever approach it.

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    9. Re:Kids these days... by steelfood · · Score: 1

      It's cold. Wear a ski mask and hood or something else that'll cover just about everything except your eyes...

      Then they'll have to use gait analysis to find you. And that'd be some story to tell in jail.

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  62. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by MachineShedFred · · Score: 0

    Whether they're guilty or not, they're gonna lie. Everyone lies. Murderers lie because they have to; witnesses and other participants lie because they think they have to; everyone else lies for the sheer joy of it, and to uphold a general principle that under no circumstances do you provide accurate information to a cop.

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  63. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    got it...make real ones instead. i understand what you're saying

  64. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by ysth · · Score: 2

    The PDF says he signed a waiver of Miranda rights.

  65. The linked article is confused... by tlambert · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The linked article is confused... but Emerson Hall houses the philosophy department, so it was a philosophy final.

    Which is incredibly ironic, since those are generally a matter of opinion or history, which means he could likely have passed it in any case, given that he was a psychology major with a minor in Japanese, so it was kind of a pass/fail class for him anyway. I wonder if any of the news organizations have talked to Professor Gary King (Kim was his research assistant).

    1. Re:The linked article is confused... by schneidafunk · · Score: 1

      Depends on the philosophy course. Symbolic logic was not a matter of opinion or history for me. Take a look at Charles Parsons

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    2. Re:The linked article is confused... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm sure Harvard is just like every other large university where final exams can be located in almost any building. The thousands of 1st years taking first year calculus usually can't all fit in the Math department.

    3. Re:The linked article is confused... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Final exams from any department can be given in Emerson; the exam being given there in no way implies it was a Philosophy final. Just for the record.

    4. Re:The linked article is confused... by guanxi · · Score: 1

      ... it was a philosophy final.

      Which is incredibly ironic, since those are generally a matter of opinion or history, which means he could likely have passed it in any case

      Unlike actual philosophy, which is quite rigorous, apparently any statement can be modded up on Slashdot.

    5. Re:The linked article is confused... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At least when I went there (many moons ago) finals were scheduled in a variety of places not necessarily tied to the building. So he could very well have had a history final there too.

      Especially for Core classes, the building would not be an indicator of the concentration (major) of the student.

    6. Re:The linked article is confused... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not necessarily true -- they schedule exams all over the place (Harvard has major space issues). I took a database class midterm in Emerson about 6 weeks ago.

  66. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by nightsky30 · · Score: 1

    (also, don't make false bomb threats. They're stupid)

    . . . it seems that lesson is not on the curriculum at Harvard . . .

    At least the guy wasn't a law student . . . that would have been even more hilarious!

    Was he a Comp Sci student?

  67. Re:Sounds like he visited torproject.org recently. by ArsenneLupin · · Score: 1

    That's one of the major reasons Tor users encourage others to use Tor too. Same with encryption.

    Unfortunately, tor is so damn slow that it is virtually unusable for anything that doesn't absolutely have to be hidden.

    Result: only people who have a very good reason to do so will use tor...

    Or has it become faster in the recent years?

  68. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by Connie_Lingus · · Score: 2

    that would be a big red flag because, you know...Silk Road is shut down.

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  69. Remember when this was no big deal? by goodmanj · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Remember the days when this story wouldn't even have made the local paper? Seriously, 25 years ago your average school saw one of these every few years. It headlined the school paper, the local cops investigated, but the FBI? National news? Heck no.

    Who needs terrorists when we now pay large corporations and government agencies to spread panic? Quit terrorizing the nation to protect your job security and let me know when something actually blows up.

    1. Re:Remember when this was no big deal? by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 1

      To be fair, starting 12 years ago, two cities in the northeast of the U.S. have had some pretty heinous mass-destructions.

    2. Re:Remember when this was no big deal? by Vitriol+Angst · · Score: 1

      I'm just impressed by an FBI that can find an anonymous prankster via TOR and a disposable email address in two days, but can't find a perpetrator who lost trillions of dollars from amongst our banks with 5 years to do it.

      The FBI does have skills and a use if they apply themselves, but it appears they are more interested in treating vinegar and baking soda as terrorism and sniffing in sock drawers for MP3 files than in going after any entity that harms the public at large.

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    3. Re:Remember when this was no big deal? by Vitriol+Angst · · Score: 0

      I don't think this is the time or place to talk about Republican budgets that intentionally create economic emergencies.

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    4. Re:Remember when this was no big deal? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      I'm just impressed by an FBI that can find an anonymous prankster via TOR and a disposable email address in two days, but can't find a perpetrator who lost trillions of dollars from amongst our banks with 5 years to do it.

      I agree with your conclusions, but not your premise. Any campus administrator could probably have tracked this guy down.

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    5. Re:Remember when this was no big deal? by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      To be fair, starting 12 years ago, two cities in the northeast of the U.S. have had some pretty heinous mass-destructions.

      Were those called in? The MO is completely different, unless you're only trying to justify the fear, not the reaction.

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    6. Re:Remember when this was no big deal? by MMC+Monster · · Score: 1

      Also, I seriously doubt the perpetrator of this crime was materially involved in those attacks in 2001.

      Fear is for people who refuse to understand statistics. In other words, for the general public.

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  70. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by zerobeat · · Score: 4, Funny

    And in lesson three, we'll learn the age old trick of going down to the local busy Starbucks with a fresh install of *OS and then use the Tor. This might extend the time it takes the feds to knock on your door to over 24 hours!

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  71. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by gl4ss · · Score: 1

    maybe he was told that better to confess since they "know" it is him.

    wouldn't be the first time, you know.

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  72. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by prowler1 · · Score: 2

    (also, don't make false bomb threats. They're stupid)

    I work at a University. You can always tell when the exam periods have started by the fact that you are constantly seeing fire engines on campus.

    Students do the most stupid things to get out of doing an exam they have not prepared for.

    I have also seen fake student IDs so someone else can sit the exam and other dodgey dealings. It sucks for the staff (I have lost count of the amount of times I have had to evacuate the data centre/office due to a fire alarm) and also screws over the other students since they often need to resit the exam. It also costs the university money since they get charged for every fire department response.

  73. Re: "because it originated from the wireless netw by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Unionist clod!

  74. Re: "because it originated from the wireless netwo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Too late. Ass hats have already doomed Tor. For example, last week one of my sites was attacked via the Tor network, so now all my sites block Tor. Won't be long till most people do.

  75. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by ArsenneLupin · · Score: 2

    You missed the part where he didn't want to take an exam.

    He didn't want to take an exam that day (probably because he had started studying way too late). He wouldn't probably object taking it 1 week later (or whatever date it would have been postponed too).

    If he hadn't confessed, he would have had to take it. So he really didn't have a choice.

    Even that is no guarantee. Maybe the cops will "allow" him to take the exam from prison?

  76. Protip by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Just study, it's easier.

    1. Re:Protip by OakDragon · · Score: 1

      Urban legend has it that if your building gets bombed, everybody gets automatic A's.

    2. Re:Protip by JTsyo · · Score: 1

      Not everyone can pass an exam by just studying, you insensitive clod.

    3. Re:Protip by Anubis+IV · · Score: 1

      Tried it once. Didn't work.

      Clearly we have a need for more data, however, since a single anecdote does not a trend make. I'd conduct further experiments, but I'm unable to procure the materials for the next 20-25 years.

  77. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by Charliemopps · · Score: 4, Informative

    Moron. I don't care how innocent or guilty you are.

    Don't talk
    Demand a lawyer (only time you can talk)
    Don't sign anything
    Don't fucking talk!
    Did I mention not talking?
    By the time your lawyer arrives you should need a glass of water because your lips will be stuck together from all the not talking you were doing.

  78. Re: "because it originated from the wireless netwo by zippthorne · · Score: 2

    Or, and I'm just spitballing here, don't do any of that. Instead, use persuasive arguments to convince people to follow your will instead of trying to impose it via violence or threat of violence. Or even, if what you want people do do is legal to pay people to do, try that.

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  79. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by What'sInAName · · Score: 1

    Considering that if it is a real threat (i.e. there's a real device planted) then yes, a real bomb threat is smart, in that it gives time for people to be evacuated.

    Now actually *planting* a device in the first place is stupid.

  80. Re:Sounds like he visited torproject.org recently. by RabidReindeer · · Score: 2

    ... and they are not going to use it for this kind of case.

    Bomb threat from unknown source? Boston? Possible foreign connections? The NSA is allegedly supposed to be involved in investigation of terror threats. It's the other stuff they're doing that's got people upset.

  81. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by MightyYar · · Score: 1

    Any lawyer worth a Harvard education would bring up MAC spoofing.

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  82. Re:Sounds like he visited torproject.org recently. by Charliemopps · · Score: 1

    They will if the target is one of their political opponents :-)

  83. How the FBI traced the msgs .. by codeusirae · · Score: 1

    "The student used a temporary anonymous email account routed through Tor, but the FBI was able to trace it"

    It would seem that the Harvard wireless network is bugged.

  84. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 1

    True enough. Never let it be said that amphetamines are a perfect substitute for sleep.

  85. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by gtall · · Score: 1

    Wrong, the moral is to study hard and stop attempting to make excuses for your failures.

  86. Irrelevant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But if it were a rich kid hed most likely get away with it as " it was just a joke and i didnt know any better"

  87. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by Imrik · · Score: 1

    Real freedom fighters need people to use Tor so they have some anonymity.

  88. A punishment worse than prison by timholman · · Score: 1

    The ultimate irony is that even if Mr. Kim had taken the exam, and failed it, he still would have earned an 'A-' in the class.

    Now he will suffer the ultimate punishment for a Harvard student: he'll get a 'B'.

  89. Re: "because it originated from the wireless netwo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Is that more or less work than actually studying for the exam?

  90. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by Big+Hairy+Ian · · Score: 1

    Didn't you know it's back up and running for all those who don't understand about honey traps.

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  91. Re:Sounds like he visited torproject.org recently. by AdamColley · · Score: 2

    It's better than it used to be but it's still not going to win any speed awards. Does allow access to sites my arsehole government have blocked though.

    Will only get worse now the great firewall is active (with auto opt-in for new customers), which btw doesn't just censor porn but also 'extreme political speech', I'd like to know who the fuck gets to determine what's extreme politics I can't view or not, personally I think it should be me, the government think otherwise.

  92. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd even extend that to: Don't make bomb threats. Also, don't make bombs.

  93. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yep many people think serving on a jury is about getting a conviction.

  94. Re: "because it originated from the wireless netwo by GTRacer · · Score: 2

    Seven was good enough for Serenity. Oh, and Voldemort.

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  95. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

    So, that spelling's better then?

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  96. No it isn't by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No normal person calls in a bomb threat to get out of a final that will at most just end being delayed.

    That YOU were (and are) an idiot doesn't mean everyone is. If your moronic logic was true, then the phone at your average school would never stop ringing. This guy (and since you clearly identify with him, you) is an asshole who thought nothing of creating a major nuisance for teachers and students because he wanted to get out of an exam. Ten to one you and him are the type who then later grow up... grow older and at the slightest provocation threaten to sue anyone and everyone for any delay or inconvenience.

    It is the eternal excuse of the asshole: Everyone does it.

    Nope.

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    You may solo them, I prefer them in a group.

    1. Re:No it isn't by ArsenneLupin · · Score: 2, Insightful

      No normal person calls in a bomb threat to get out of a final that will at most just end being delayed.

      Ok, so I was flippant when I said that "everybody" (and by implication, me) does it. Let me assure you that I never did such a thing, nor anybody that I know personally. However, it does happen often enough to be well known that some students do this (and in my town we did indeed have a case where a group of students did it, and they were caught by a phone camera hidden in the payphone booth).

      That YOU were (and are) an idiot doesn't mean everyone is.

      That you are a humourless prick (that can't spot a flippant remark) doesn't mean that everybody else is, either. And now shut up.

    2. Re:No it isn't by Sir_Eptishous · · Score: 1

      It is the eternal excuse of the asshole: Everyone does it.

      You mean like Facebook, texting/surfing while driving, spying on allies and watching porn?

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    3. Re:No it isn't by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you missed his point (completely).

      The point is that folks in the US, post 9/11, are security crazy. This was a prank, pranks always have happened. And, he is correct that in the past, the default with a call like this would be to assume it is a prank. Not anymore.

      At the college where I work, they have gone completely insane due to recent school shootings in the US. All doors are to remain locked at all times, with little plastic blocks holding the doors ajar (until pranksters make it so they don't). This policy nominally will reduce the body count during rampages of folks with guns, but it demonstrably reduces class hours due to pranksters with hands locking people out.

    4. Re:No it isn't by DerekLyons · · Score: 1

      However, it does happen often enough to be well known that some students do this

      Not when I was growing up it didn't. Not where I've lived for the last thirty years it doesn't.
       
      That's why they're taken seriously, not because it's post 9-11, but because they're rare.

      You're both wrong and clueless, and repeated defense of your original mistaken statement... well, the first rule of holes is "when you're in one, stop digging".

    5. Re:No it isn't by iroll · · Score: 1

      And yet it happened at least every other year for me, and I went to middle and high school in the early/mid 90s in a tiny town in the middle of nowhere. We'd go into fire-drill mode and the cops would do a quick search of the school. Then we'd go back and take our tests.

      Don't expect anybody to take you seriously if the best you can do is counter an anecdote with an anecdote, because yours is no more valid than his or mine.

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      Repetition does not transform a lie into the truth. - FDR
    6. Re:No it isn't by coolsnowmen · · Score: 1

      Yep, evacuating the school and calling the cops is the appropriate response.

      One of the parents claimed these "pranks" were ignored, implying that because the terrorists have won, it isn't cool anymore to call in a bomb threat.

    7. Re:No it isn't by iroll · · Score: 1

      I'm not saying they were completely ignored, but there weren't any histrionics. It was a fire DRILL, not a fire, and we kids just goofed off on the playground. The cops certainly weren't concerned either; they made a cursory check because that's their job.

      Fast forward to 2007, I'm working as a teacher at a very large, affluent suburban school, and the *one* time in six years that we got a bomb threat caused absolute pandemonium. Lockdown, class cancelled for the rest of the day, helicopters flying overhead, and a student's diorama (found in a hallway) was treated like a suspected IED. Local news went into hysterics and interviewed concerned parents outside the school, asking them about 911. The next day, attendance was about 50%.

      I'd call what happened when I was a kid routine, and I agree with the OP that kids calling in bomb threats was so common when we were growing up that it was practically a cliche. I'm not defending it, and only a really stupid or sociopathic kid would have done it, but it happened and it happened much more often than it does now.

      I'd call what happened when I was a teacher insane.

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    8. Re:No it isn't by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A poor writer blames the reader for not understanding.

    9. Re:No it isn't by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "It's just a joke, chill out" - the other eternal excuse of the asshole.

  97. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by Theovon · · Score: 1

    Also, don’t make REAL bomb threats either. And don’t set off bombs to kill innocent people.

    I think that’s good advice too.

  98. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by melikamp · · Score: 2

    Please, don't use Tor to harass and be an asshole. Real freedom fighters need Tor, not you and your lulz.

    Almost everyone needs anonymity, at least some of the time. The more people use Tor (without cheating), the more robust is the network, so your uppity attitude is completely out of place. Tor is for lulz as much as it is for freedom fighting.

  99. Scared society by gmuslera · · Score: 1

    If well deserves some kind of punishment, i wonder how much punishment gets people that do real damage and actual consequences, like drunk drivers (that may have killed several people), rapists, or even people that beat others leaving them maybe permanently injured (and lets not touch the consequences of lying to the congress or stealing trillons). What used to be a practical joke it seem to worth more than things with real life consequences in the actual society.

  100. Re: "because it originated from the wireless netwo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No need to minimize your damage with a threat first if it's "real". Never let them see you coming.

  101. smh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    LOL Fitting
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HH3QdNAY_E

  102. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    owned like an AC

  103. somebody can probably answer this... by buddyglass · · Score: 0

    How did they get from "a MAC address connected to our wireless network that's accessing Tor" to "Mr. Kim"?

    1. Re:somebody can probably answer this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How did they get from "a MAC address connected to our wireless network that's accessing Tor" to "Mr. Kim"?

      MAC addresses are logged on wifi routers. They can grep logs to sniff who is using that MAC address in the clear. An institution like Harvard probably has logging and sniffing everything down to a fine art.

    2. Re:somebody can probably answer this... by buddyglass · · Score: 1

      Logging what? Just knowing that a MAC address attached to a particular access point doesn't get you from the MAC address to an actual human identity. Did they log what sites he connected to? Even that wouldn't get you all the way there. Log the actual content of packets?

      Or is Harvard's WiFi network one those where you have to "log on" with an actual username/password, similar to what you see in hotels?

    3. Re:somebody can probably answer this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If had kept his mouth SHUT when interviewed I suspect they could have done nothing. I don't notice any mention of a timing attack or malware or anything conclusive.

    4. Re:somebody can probably answer this... by AndrewBuck · · Score: 1

      On many campuses (mine included) you have to register your mac address with the IT department before you are allowed on the net. Until you register they redirect all your traffic to a registration page where you put in your univeristy username and password that you use for your univerity email and whatnot. You can of course do mac spoofing but they just take that to be a second machine and redirect you to the registration page again, so unless you steal someone else's name/password to register it to them they have you.

      I am not sure how I feel about having such a system in place but that is how it works. Note that I am not from harvard but I assume they have some similar kind of thing in place. Someone above said you have to click a EULA type agreement everytime you log on to their network so it is not unreasonable to assume they are doing mac registration as well.

      -AndrewBuck

    5. Re:somebody can probably answer this... by koan · · Score: 1

      He confessed when they pushed him.

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  104. Re:Sounds like he visited torproject.org recently. by fulldecent · · Score: 1

    (Third feature is minimizing bandwidth)

    You can easily design a system with good anonymity and low-latency: arrange your network like a daisy chain. Timing and statistical attacks are useless when SNR is that low.

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  105. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by amiga3D · · Score: 1

    Moral of the story: Don't do stupid shit like bomb threats. Really I can't believe anyone is idiot enough to do that shit above middle school age. To get out of a fucking exam? He deserves jail just for being an idiot.

  106. Re: "because it originated from the wireless netwo by LF11 · · Score: 2

    College students are allergic to studying. It gives them hives and agida.

  107. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by johnsie · · Score: 2

    Common mistake for people speaking English as a second language. I doubt the AC can speak more than one language, because if he did, he would probably know this ;)

  108. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by rhazz · · Score: 5, Funny

    Except he didn't actually send the bomb threat! He only confessed to that lesser crime because what he was REALLY doing was seeding a pirated release of Gravity, and he knew if the police continued their investigation they might find out and he'd end up in jail for 10 years and have to pay $3 million in fines.

  109. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 4, Funny

    If you weren't ready to make that post, you could've called in a bomb threat.

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  110. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by yoshi_mon · · Score: 2

    I think it is also worth noting that this is coming from Harvard. Not to say that other schools don't have similar issues but my point is that this is a very high end, private, and expensive university. And that that most of the people there are expected, and that is probably putting it lightly, to excel.

    My point is that the higher the stakes the more people tend to be willing to do. Whatever those stakes may be. Be it some personal drive, parental urgings, or whatever. (And I'm talking about people that would otherwise be rational.)

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  111. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If he hadn't confessed, he would have had to take it. So he really didn't have a choice.

    Even that is no guarantee. Maybe the cops will "allow" him to take the exam from prison?

    He probably preferred to be examinated...

  112. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

    I knew I should have added the joke tag. Damn.

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  113. Re: "because it originated from the wireless netwo by jythie · · Score: 1

    As a general rule, people resort to violence or threats of violence when their options for working within simple arguments do not work. There are very few nice ways to deal with a much more powerful foe who has no interest in compromise or capitulation.

  114. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by jythie · · Score: 1

    One of the things I love about english is it has so much error correction built in that, even if one is going to be snarky about such mistakes, readers still know exactly what the person intended.

  115. Why was he worried about exam? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    the *average* grade at Harvard is an A or A-. Was worried about returning in shame to home with a B+?

    "The median grade at Harvard College is an A-, and the most frequently awarded mark is an A, Dean of Undergraduate Education Jay M. Harris said on Tuesday afternoon, supporting suspicions that the College employs a softer grading standard than many of its peer institutions."
    http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2013/12/3/grade-inflation-mode-a/#

  116. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by oodaloop · · Score: 1

    Actually, the Silk Road is back.

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  117. Re: "because it originated from the wireless netwo by Krneki · · Score: 1

    More work of course, since it has real life applications, not like the mumbo jumbo you study in school.

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  118. Public Wi-Fi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Are there no Paneras, McDonalds, Starbucks, or any number of a million other places offering free wi-fi near Harvard?

  119. Overkill by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

    He made the threat to get out of an exam.

    What's the matter, grandmothers don't die any more?

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  120. Re: "because it originated from the wireless netwo by CanHasDIY · · Score: 1

    Is that more or less work than actually studying for the exam?

    Ever met a truly lazy person?

    You'd be amazed at the amount of work they're willing to do to get out of the work they're supposed to be doing.

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  121. Re:Sounds like he visited torproject.org recently. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I agree with GP. Once the NSA admits that they have this capability they will no longer be able to use it as people will stop using Tor.

    Now, I am not saying that the NSA can crack Tor, or that it was necessary in this case.

  122. I've just written an article about this. Please sh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    #OopsSec - On catching the Harvard bomb threat suspect using Tor.
    https://blog.ageispolis.net/oopsec/

  123. Re: "because it originated from the wireless netwo by CanHasDIY · · Score: 0

    Or, and I'm just spitballing here, don't do any of that. Instead, use persuasive arguments to convince people to follow your will instead of trying to impose it via violence or threat of violence. Or even, if what you want people do do is legal to pay people to do, try that.

    Quite the damning condemnation of American government you've posted there, considering their policy is, apparently, to lead with violence.

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  124. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by CanHasDIY · · Score: 1

    Was the guy ever catched ? Nope.

    Did this happen during an English class?

    In OP's defense, he did already admit to being French.

    Oh, wait - I guess that's not really a defense, is it?

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  125. Re: "because it originated from the wireless netwo by P-niiice · · Score: 0

    In a news story, the NSA would look good simply by breaking Tor....no need to make shit up. Tor is already a den of drugs and child porn to 99% of the .2% who know anything about it.

  126. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by morgauxo · · Score: 1

    One would expect he is kicked out of the university now. No more exam for him!

  127. Re: "because it originated from the wireless netwo by ganjadude · · Score: 2

    Not sure if this should be troll or insightful. I mean in all seriousness, people who make bomb threats tend to not be the ones capable of carrying out the crime. If you are going to commit a crime, you just do it, you dont go around bragging about it or making threats.

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  128. Re:Tor == warning flag by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    People, read the docs before using something. You only make yourselves a more noticeable idiot for the NSA and friends [without doing so].

  129. Re: "because it originated from the wireless netwo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The problem is that other people are stupid and don't listen to persuasive arguments. They just want to follow their dumb political party because of the lies they have been told (and firmly believe regardless of your persuasive argument). They believe in strange myths and you can't fix them.

  130. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It sucks for the staff (I have lost count of the amount of times I have had to evacuate the data centre/office due to a fire alarm) and also screws over the other students since they often need to resit the exam.

    It also sucks in the rare case you work in a lab that has an actual fire during or even near exam week. The fire fighters have some idea of what point in the academic schedule it is. And while I won't go as far as to say they took their time, they clearly had a different attitude than normal and a "Oh Shit" reaction when realizing there was an actual fire burning, even though there was both a fire alarm pull and a 911 call.

  131. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by borroff · · Score: 1

    I'm against true bomb threats, too. Just sayin'

  132. Re:Sounds like he visited torproject.org recently. by ganjadude · · Score: 1

    sadly you are right. Fake or real, this is in fact the kind of threat the NSA is supposed to be following up on. But then they would have to do some actual work

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  133. Re:Sounds like he visited torproject.org recently. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There is a way, it's just not feasiable (would destroy the low latency). You have to encrypt zeros when you have nothing to say, and transmit that when your connection would otherwise be idle. By doing that everyone connected to the node would have a constant 100kB/s or so of traffic to and from the node and you wouldn't be able to identify if the connection is idle or not (and thus can't corelate it to page access). Implementing it would greatly increase bandwidth requirements on the nodes, and that would destroy any low latency requirement they are trying to meet.

  134. Re: "because it originated from the wireless netwo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You should just block all of the internet (may I suggest just cutting the cord), because, you know, attacks can come from there too.... stupid to just block tor because your system was attacked (or do you mean your system was penetrated, not just attacked, in which case you are a moron for not properly securing your systems).

  135. Re: "because it originated from the wireless netwo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's a cost benefit thing. I have no benefit for allowing penetration tests from Tor, or any anonymous connections for that matter, with the huge potential cost if they manage to find something.

    BTW, calling someone a moron as part of your argument means your argument is probably moronic.

  136. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If by "excel" you mean "pay up for straight As", then yes, they're expected to excel.

  137. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    English is also my second language. Could you explain the joke?

  138. Re: "because it originated from the wireless netwo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Also, if I'd meant penetrated instead of attacked, I would have said penetrated instead of attacked. because, not being a moron, I know the difference between those words.

    Also, its pretty moronic to have a site on the internet and not monitor traffic to your site for attacks, or to not take action to stop attacks when they occur.

  139. The Punishment... by oconnorcjo · · Score: 1

    I don't think this guy should do jail time but I DO think he should be kicked out of Harvard (and given an automatic F for the class he was trying to avoid finals for. The incident should also be on his record but no fine or time. Being kicked out of Harvard and a felony on his record should be enough to ruin his future and indicate what kind of scumbag he is.

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  140. CEO Material by Princeofcups · · Score: 1

    Harvard, sociopath, criminal. That is some megacorporation's new CEO.

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  141. That's a mistake? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It was the right thing to do. Of course he should have never sent in the threat to begin with, but now countless man hours and dollars have been spent tracking him down. Which IMO, is the right thing to do in this case.

    Maybe if he hadn't admitted it they'd still be spending resources trying to find someone. What you call a mistake, I call the best possible outcome after he made such an idiotic decision to begin with.

  142. Re:Sounds like he visited torproject.org recently. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm able to watch HD Youtube videos on TOR.
    My workplace blocks YouTube but sometimes there are informations that are pertinent to my work, on youtube. TOR is blessing for that.

  143. Re: "because it originated from the wireless netwo by F.Ultra · · Score: 3, Insightful

    TOR is not an entity and even if they managed to get hold of the exit node there is no logs left there to point back to the previous node and so on.

  144. Whatta Idiot! by rnturn · · Score: 1

    All you really needed to do was pull a fire alarm just before the exam. By threatening with a bomb you not only escalated the level of involvement by "the authorities" when you got your butt caught -- don't you think that campus police would have been a better bunch of folks to have to deal with than the FBI -- but you'll likely never be allowed to set foot on a commercial flight for the rest of your life even after you've served your time. (In today's climate, one never really pays their debt to society. You're punished forever.)

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  145. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by anagama · · Score: 1

    Lesson 4, avoiding video surveillance in the Starbucks. The cops could certainly question the handful of people using a computer after figuring out who they are from the pictures. They'd probably want to focus on the person seen using a CD or USB stick with that live distro.

    So do it from outside the store --- but that looks even more odd and there are cameras everywhere.

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  146. Terrorism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is the definition of terrorism. Throw him in GitMo.

  147. Re: "because it originated from the wireless netwo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If (b) and (c) were possible, there would be no point to Tor. It's a tool, not some company you can subpoena. They got the fact that it was through Tor from guerilla mail, and the fact the the student was on Tor at the right time from Harvard.

  148. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by rgbatduke · · Score: 2

    Say what? Why not just buy a cheap USB wireless stick (paying cash, of course) and send the message from a car parked outside of Panera Bread (or any other unsecured wireless network) and then throw the stick into the nearest storm drain? The only thing you have to do is use a MAC address not already registered in Harvard's DHCP tables to the student. While a proper geek would then edit the internal logs of the laptop -- a REAL geek on their LINUX (or possibly Mac) laptop where the logs are in straight ASCII and bone simple to edit -- to remove all trace of the DHCP connection and the MAC address of the stick. But even if they didn't do this, the trail ends at Panera, assuming that the student didn't go inside and get his face captured on the store video or the like. They would have to examine the logs of every laptop on campus to find the perp otherwise, and of course they'd never get a judge to agree to that.

    I'm tempted to joke around about how multiply stupid this Harvard kid was compared to Duke kids -- not only failing a course but too stupid to even send in an anonymized bomb threat by email in an untraceable way -- but sadly to my direct experience there are Duke students who are (or have been in the past) just as criminally dumb and this is a real tragedy and not really something to joke over. The poor kid is probably sitting around in a daze trying to figure out how what happened, how he went from being a struggling (but probably really pretty bright) student at one of the best universities in the world to being a plea-bargained felon working off a hundred-thousand dollar fine selling coffee and cleaning toilets at Starbucks with no hope of ever attending anything better than a community college for the rest of his or her life.

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  149. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by Runaway1956 · · Score: 1

    You DID remember to spoof your MAC address, right?

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  150. Re:I CALLED IT by AndrewBuck · · Score: 1

    Congratulations the reward for correctly calling it was $1 million. Your reward will be split equally with everyone else who called it so you get $0.01 which you can claim at any time. Just send a self addressed stamped envelope to the Boston PD and they will mail you your penny.

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  151. inaccurate statement in the FBI addidavit by slashmydots · · Score: 1

    "TOR, which is also available free of charge on the Internet and which automatically assigns an anonymous Internet Protocol (“IP”) address that can be used for a limited period of time."
    Considering that's not really how it works, I'm surprised this expert agent was able to track him down at all, lol. Although...
    "KIM explained that he sent all of the bomb-threat e-mails from his MacBook Pro Laptop"
    Now that narrows it down a bit in the access logs. I still can't figure out how they can detect the difference between TOR traffic and normal encrypted traffic like HTTPS-related traffic on their network. There had to have been 100 people on Facebook whose traffic looked exactly like Tor traffic. Is there some sort of initial identifying burst when Tor first launches that identifies the traffic?

    1. Re:inaccurate statement in the FBI addidavit by RobinH · · Score: 1

      They probably saw in the logs that he went to the Tor website first, downloaded Tor, and then used it. The initial visit to the project's site would be easily visible in the logs.

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  152. Re: "because it originated from the wireless netwo by Runaway1956 · · Score: 1

    Now, THAT is something I can get behind.

    Scenario A: I actually want to kill a bunch of people. WTF do I want to call it in for? Am I hoping that I'll get MORE people after they have evacuated the building?

    Scenario B: I just want to get out of a test. Isn't it simpler just to start a fire in a trash can, and pull the fire alarm? You might get caught, but I imagine the penalty is less for a simple case of arson, than calling in a bomb threat.

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  153. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by anagama · · Score: 1

    You spent a lot of effort on this post, but you need to study tor a bit more. It's a collection of services and protocols. You might as well as talk about sending a subpoena to email. There is no email entity -- it's a collection of services and protocols. There are developers who write the programs that people can use either themselves or more commonly through a third party provider of email services (that third party is not "email" in an entity sense however). When you connect and use such services, it leaves obvious traces on the network. But you can't drive up to email's corporate offices -- they don't exist.

    That's what happened to this guy, he used tor on the Harvard network, and the FBI probably just went and interviewed everyone who was using tor around the time of the emails. He was given a Miranda warning, ignored it, and then he caved. Case closed.

    I think the main takeaway here is that sometimes, being anonymous makes you stick out like a sore thumb.

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  154. Re:Sounds like he visited torproject.org recently. by Jerslan · · Score: 1

    ... and they are not going to use it for this kind of case.

    Bomb threat from unknown source? Boston? Possible foreign connections? The NSA is allegedly supposed to be involved in investigation of terror threats. It's the other stuff they're doing that's got people upset.

    Why would the NSA crack TOR to spy on terrorists and such like they're supposed to when they can be stalking potential love interests and making sure their Significant Others are faithful?

  155. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by genka · · Score: 1

    Not only the feds sent a warrant to TOR, they also sent one to TCP/IP!

  156. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by rgbatduke · · Score: 2

    I stand corrected.

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  157. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by fatphil · · Score: 1

    I have absolutely no doubt what you say applies to this case, and also as you say, to many others.

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  158. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by SecurityTheatre · · Score: 2

    Except he sent the email 30 minutes before the exam, because he was desperate at the last minute.

    Also, news at 10pm: Desperation makes teenager do stupid stuff.

  159. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by Stuarticus · · Score: 2

    I'd be very surprised if you could access the wireless network without logging on, WPA Radius would be my suspicion. I guess you could claim someone had stolen your password but still doesn't sound too 1337 to me.

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  160. Re: "because it originated from the wireless netwo by Entropius · · Score: 1

    I once told a student "If instead of computing what you needed on the final to get an A to three significant figures, you put that time into learning physics, you'd be more likely to get an A."

  161. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Suspect? A *guy from the same class* on TOR at the time the TOR email arrived ... it's not proof, but that's a tall situation to escape.

  162. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by rgbatduke · · Score: 1

    OK, so the warrant idea was dumb and I should have taken more time to learn how TOR worked. But now that I've taken the time, consider the possibility that the TOR server one connects to belongs in fact to the NSA or FBI in the first place, or that they simply implement their monitoring and control on the upstream ISP feeding those servers. Note that the content of the message is irrelevant -- all that mattered was that a Harvard IP connected to a TOR server in the right general timeframe. It's actually interesting to see how one can attack TOR (beyond the scope of TFA) -- own enough of the toplevel servers and you quickly get an idea of who is connecting from where (and start to build a pretty good map of the intermediate nodes). Own enough of the intermediate nodes, and you begin to have enough keys to be able to decrypt intermediate traffic (the French claim that the critical number is around 1/3) and can probably identify nearly all of the exit nodes. So the really big question is -- when you hook into TOR, are you really hooking into a network of nodes contributed by freedom-loving selfless volunteers who are willing to donate substantial network bandwidth and processing time, or are you hooking into a network of nodes thoughtfully provided by the NSA through numerous plausible looking fronts, saving everybody the trouble of implementing a man in the middle attack by BEING the man in the middle?

    From what I could glean, it looks like there is a very good chance that TOR has been spanned by the NSA for quite a while now. And how could one even tell if this is the case? Because there is no central authority, AFAICT anybody can contribute resources and there is no way to check on whether the resources are being contributed by people who support the concept or are seeking to subvert it. The entire model relies on the intermediate nodes being MOSTLY trustworthy, and it is almost certainly not valid if any significant fraction of those nodes are subverted. It also relies to some extent on there being "many" connections to the servers at any given time and not "few", partly because again AFAICT there are only three node hops in between, and because the nodes do not know if the traffic is a block message or keystrokes in a real-time interface they cannot institute any sort of systematic delay. Few to few connections can easily be sorted out if owns enough of the servers and/or nodes to be able to create a reasonably accurate table of all of the nodes AND are presumed to have access to the intermediate routers or the routers feeding particular services. I couldn't do it, but the NSA and by extension the FBI? Deep pockets, very smart people.

    rgb

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  163. You are all forgetting one possibility... by iamnotasmurf · · Score: 1

    Someone could have ratted him out. Its a technique that has been used since the dawn of communication.

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  164. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by ruir · · Score: 1

    Brilliant, sir, excellent dark humour skills and use of irony.

  165. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by jandrese · · Score: 1

    The old fashioned police work in this case involved the cops asking him "Did you do it?" and him going "Yes".

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  166. Re:Sounds like he visited torproject.org recently. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    TOR already is a daisy chain, so no idea what you are talking about.

  167. I must be missign something by koan · · Score: 1

    He used TOR over wireless, yes that's easy to detect, but it appears to me his confession did him in, not that useless bit of evidence that he used TOR.

    So without the confession did they have them?

    I must be missing something.

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  168. He disobeyed the #1 rule of being a defendant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc

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  169. I expected too much from Slashdot? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I read "I expected more from Harvard" and naively assumed that we were speaking about ethics.

  170. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by rgbatduke · · Score: 2

    Duke doesn't require you to authenticate your wireless device every time you connect, and I doubt most other Universities do either. It does require you to register your device MAC address (in an authenticated session). In fact, at this point Duke might require you to register wired addresses as well. Unregistered devices get kicked onto an anonymous network outside of a firewall, so visitors can get internet access without getting a "Duke" IP number. Duke controls its own outgoing PoP, of course, so it effectively logs all connections into and out of the Duke domain. As was pointed out above, this was more than likely the method used to identify the student at Harvard -- simply look for a Harvard IP that connected to a TOR server (and obviously, the toplevel TOR servers HAVE to be publicly known or nobody could connect to them) at the right time. That time AFAICT could not be delayed as some have suggested by TOR itself because TOR doesn't know what you are connecting to and has to treat all connections as though they might be real-time keystrokes. You'd need an anonymous, non-logging mail server with a delay on it on the far side to put any sort of substantial desynchronization between the connection and the mail message -- TOR itself cannot do it unless I'm still in error after reading about its architecture for a while.

    Regardless, anyone even slightly 1337 would have at the very least gone to starbucks or an internet cafe and THEN used Tor, or bought a disposable USB wireless interface and used the anonymous network or (best) both. No possible way the FBI could have backtracked a cash purchased USB stick from a store with no video surveillance used from an alley next to (but not inside) a Panera Bread while wearing a wig and makeup one dons in the restroom of a giant mall connected to TOR, even if the NSA actually "volunteers" most of the toplevel TOR servers and half of the nodes and/or maintains a running map of all of the nodes (which I'm pretty sure they do regardless of how many they actually provide). I mean what's ten or twenty million dollars in hardware to the NSA, if it gives them a chance to monitor most of the traffic through a supposedly secure onion network? In the end, the Internet does not allow one anything like non-subvertable security of connections, only the data content sent over those connections. I doubt that even the NSA is likely to be able to decrypt e.g. 4096-bit key-secured traffic EXCEPT by obtaining the keys.

    rgb

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  171. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I did that once, but Doc Brown didn't read the letter, and so I had to take my exam, and he was killed by the Libyans anyways.

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  172. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by anagama · · Score: 2

    It's really hard to know how universally safe tor is. Maybe it protects you against Chile but not the NSA. Obviously, the Feds have a lot of money and can deploy a lot of tor systems. Shifting the discussion a little bit, from anonymity to privacy, I'm basically skeptical of all technological means at maintaining privacy, for several reasons: 1) it's super easy to screw up and leak information (this bomb hoax being a prime example). 2) Encryption acts more as temporary barrier because inevitably, it is cracked or technology makes brute force trivial (and before someone says "one time pad," figure out how that's going to work for everyday stuff). 3) It leads to rampant paranoia, for example, the people behind tor are probably good privacy minded people and not some NSA pricks -- but I don't know. Not knowing whether a system is safe or not has a chilling effect on free expression. Of course, Greenwald and Snowden suggest tor, but I'm sure that's just one stage of a multilevel system.

    I'm not advocating abandoning encryption etc., but I think that without strong legal protections which make privacy violations a serious crime, even if done by the Feds, we will never really have privacy (which is a necessary component of freedom). Instead, we'll have technological systems that people trust for a time until someone gets burned and then we'll shift to other systems. But that's not a real solution and it will suck mightily for those sacrificial lambs who get roasted.

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  173. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by Venotar · · Score: 1

    Rather than gleaning, you should simply read some more. These questions have all been answered. If you're targeted well in advance and if you make one of a number of mistakes, it is possible to track you through TOR.
    Retroactively?
    No, very clearly no.

  174. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fresh install? You mean running a live CD over and existing Windows XP install that only has malware and cat pictures on it.

  175. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by anagama · · Score: 1

    You might want to google Lafayette. Without the French, their fleet, money, and other support, GB might well have been the victor in the Revolutionary War. In that light, the French jokes aren't really all that funny.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilbert_du_Motier,_Marquis_de_Lafayette

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  176. Re: "because it originated from the wireless netwo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seven proxies, or, you know, going to one of the THOUSANDS of public wifi networks in the Boston area. This guy is just a reminder that just because Harvard is prestigious doesn't mean their students are particularly smart. Just rich and well connected.

    MIT professors are often fond of pointing this out, as anyone who's thoroughly perused the Open Courseware they have up will know...

  177. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yah, please stop using Tor unless you're a real freedom fighter or otherwise engaged in opposition. It helps us figure out who you are more easily than if just any asshole uses it anytime.

    Love,

    The NSA

  178. Re: "because it originated from the wireless netwo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Giving french credit for success in the revolutionary war is akin to still hating the english for their treatment of us as a colony. The ship has sailed on it still being relevant.

  179. Re: "because it originated from the wireless netwo by anagama · · Score: 1

    except without French money guns and ships, there would not likely be a USA at all. Under your logic, you might as well say Washington, Jefferson, etc., are totally irrelevant to America too.

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  180. Re:Sounds like he visited torproject.org recently. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's actually quite usable these days.

  181. Pro NSA FUD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Another day, another effort by the owners of Slashdot to, CBS style, promote official NSA propaganda to the sheeple of Slashdot.

    The owners of Slashdot wish to IMPLY using services like Tor, or encryption in general, is a waste of time. With nonsense about how 'magic' NSA technology can recover properly deleted HDD files, they lower the likelihood an average sheeple will use good security practices in this way too.

    Here's what REALLY went down. The police KNOW the common patterns of criminal behaviour, because while every criminal with an above average IQ thinks they are UNIQUELY inventing a fool-proof criminal plan, the criminal is an INDIVIDUAL, and the police have access to the STATISTICALLY common thought patterns of all classes of criminal. 'Smart' criminals find the same 'smart' solutions independently, and across time these common 'clever' solutions are logged by law enforcement.

    So, if an anonymous bomb threat is received disrupting exams...
    1) the perp will be a student (or associate of the student)
    2) the perp will have an 'academic' reason to want the exams disrupted
    3) the perp, by willing to go this route, will have clearly defined psychological issues, many of which will have manifested themselves visibly to others in the past
    4) if an 'anonymous' method was used to make the threat, a list of possible users of such anonymous tools at the time can be made
    5) the psychology of idiots that make bomb threats is fragile- such people can be made to 'crack' by falsely claiming to have evidence against them. Then, their 'confession' becomes the main evidence in a future criminal case

    NO PART OF THIS PROCESS SHOWS A WEAKNESS IN TOR. NO PART OF THIS PROCESS SHOWS A WEAKNESS IN USING 'STRONG' ENCRYPTION. No part of this process shows why using GOOD security practices is a waste of time. This loser is just another DUMB 'smart' criminal. The jails are full of such geniuses. Did you know the MOST difficult criminal is actually the dumb one with street smarts, who knows something about police procedure, but also randomises his behaviour without ever consciously thinking about this.

    The 'smart' criminal follows standard, highly predictable thought patterns - you see the 'optimum' solution can usually be anticipated. The BEST criminal solution is actually a solution so 'stupid', it is unique and outside common pattern analysis, confusing those that investigate. There as almost ZERO highly intelligent police investigators, but the majority of investigators are EXPERIENCED and well trained.

    Anyway, this sociopathic jerk will hopefully get what he deserves. Any sick scumbag who thinks the inconvenience of hundreds is fine if it serves his own interests deserves to be strongly labelled and ostracised from civilised society.

  182. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by CanHasDIY · · Score: 1

    You might want to google Lafayette. Without the French, their fleet, money, and other support, GB might well have been the victor in the Revolutionary War. In that light, the French jokes aren't really all that funny.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilbert_du_Motier,_Marquis_de_Lafayette

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  183. Re: "because it originated from the wireless netwo by CanHasDIY · · Score: 1

    except without French money guns and ships, there would not likely be a USA at all.

    Speculation at best. You never know - maybe without the support of the French, the colonists would have worked harder to establish a solid relationship with the natives.

    But since it didn't go down like that, all we can do is speculate. Or not, since what *might* have happened has absolutely no significance, historical or otherwise.

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  184. Rubber Hose Decryption by Flere+Imsaho · · Score: 1
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  185. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by rgbatduke · · Score: 2

    I completely agree. I tend to trust high end encryption because I know something about how difficult the problem of cracking a serious cipher with a large key is -- even brute force attacks simply aren't tenable for the good ones. 4096 bits is 2^4096 approx 10^400 permutations and 100 billion years with every atom in the visible Universe a computer still aren't enough. Of course this time can be substantially reduced if one discovers mathematical weaknesses in the encryption or if people do stupid things, but I think e.g. GPG and SSH are pretty reliable when implemented with large keys provided that you can trust your source for the software. SSL is also probably fine if you can trust your key servers and software. However, what NSA does have in abundance is talented crackers and lots of resources and access to federal warrants and even the freedom to proceed without warrants. The easy way to crack my ssh encrypted channel isn't to do a brute force attack on the data stream, it is to crack any of the systems on which I store public and private keypairs. The easy way to decrypt my gpg encrypted documents no matter how large a key I specify is to crack my system and do any of a dozen things -- monitor my keystrokes and steal my keys, issue a warrant forcing me to give up my keys (so I go to jail on contempt of court to rot forever without a trial if I fail to comply). The latter is what the FBI actually told me that they do in cases where there is probable cause, e.g. kiddy porn cases where somebody has a large encrypted file suspected of containing snuff films involving small children or the like (I've attended security conferences and chatted extensively with FBI'ers attending the same sessions in the past, although I don't mess with security at this level much any more).

    But the only solution to the issue of privacy is to move BACK to this state of affairs. People have to have a real right to presume that their affairs and activities are private with the narrow exception of a search warrant granted on the basis of actual evidence and probable cause, sort of like it says in the constitution and its amendments.

    Of course, we have to be willing to pay the price for this. That means that yeah, criminals and terrorists will succeed in concealing their affairs a lot more often. More of the innocent will die or be hurt in other ways. We cannot insist on having our privacy preserved and then bitch when the outcome of it is that a terrorist succeeds in nuking a city in a case where ignoring the privacy laws might have prevented it.

    An alternative that might almost be more palatable would be to alter the laws to completely eliminate victimless crime and almost all moral crime, and indeed provide citizens with broad rights to completely freely choose their lifestyle and activities without their ability to seek employment or education being threatened. People conceal things that might be damaging, and one of the dangers of a police state is that so many things are illegal that "everybody" commits certain crimes, such as driving over the speed limit, driving with a blood alcohol that is just over the limit, bending things a bit on tax returns, engaging in sexual acts between consenting adults that are still technically against the laws of the state in which they live, smokes pot. This makes everybody vulnerable, and hence controllable. If we could actually trust the police not to abuse their power by eliminating most of the ways they COULD abuse their power, it would be a lot simpler to think about exceptions for exceptional risks.

    Best of all, do both. Strong privacy laws, eliminate moral/victimless non-crimes and indeed establish legal protections for acting as one wishes to act outside of things that directly impact their employment or damage others, and sure, a tight system of well-regulated courts to handle the edge cases expeditiously and with the ability to seal the record of all discovery outside of a narrow window. Sort of like one imagines the framers of the constitution possibly intended. But then, they were all terrorists themselves.

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  186. Re:Sounds like he visited torproject.org recently. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bomb hoax? During finals week? Possible student connections? The NSA is almost certainly involved, but isn't going to give up any secrets for this.

  187. Re: "because it originated from the wireless netwo by Richy_T · · Score: 2

    You may not want to cause injury or death, which may turn people against you. If you can scare them and make them pressure their leaders to cease the action you disagree with, you might be able to achieve your aims more easily, particularly if your cause is somewhat sympathetic.

  188. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by Richy_T · · Score: 1

    I'd think step 1 would be "Don't call in hoax bomb threats". Once that point of stupidity has been conceded, I think all else is just grist for the mill.

  189. you dont get it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The article says "that he was caught despite using tor" !!!
    He was not a smart person, but TOR has nothing to do with the story.
    May the article should read "Student caught sending bomb threats using an Apple MAC"

    my 2 bits

  190. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by Cedric+Tsui · · Score: 1

    It'll stand. This is in the Affidavit.

    9. Harvard University was able to determine that, in the several hours leading up to the receipt of the e-mail messages described above, ELDO KIM accessed TOR using Harvard’s wireless network.
    10. On the evening of December 16, 2013, an FBI agent and an officer of the Harvard University Police Department interviewed ELDO KIM at the building in which he resides on the Harvard University campus. During the interview, the FBI agent advised KIM of his rights under Miranda. KIM read and signed an advice of rights waiver, stating that he understood his rights. KIM then stated that he authored the bomb threat e-mails described above. KIM stated that he acted alone. He further stated that he sent the e-mails to “five or six Harvard University e-mail addresses” that he picked at random from the university’s web page. According to KIM, he was motivated by a desire to avoid a final exam scheduled to be held on December 16, 2013.

  191. Do not break the law using Tor by WOOFYGOOFY · · Score: 1

    Even if Tor works perfectly with no back door, I can think of lots of ways to get at someone's identity if I have governmental level resources and the determination to do it. Tor will not protect you. Tor will protect you from sub governmental peeking. Surf MILF pr0n freely. A Bayesian attack on timing can identify you. Colored packets can identify you. The makers of Tor will tell you that it's not designed to provide invisibility when the network it's deployed on is largely subverted or subvertible.

    This is a public service announcement to our younger readers. There'a lot of lore about "dark internet" and it's exact properties and all of this. You WILL be caught doing whatever it is you thought you were going to do. So don't do it. Just. Don't.

  192. So, nothing you do gets dumped to the pagefile? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And, you made sure to overwrite this pagefile?

  193. Moron, go back to school and learn to read. by DerekLyons · · Score: 1

    In other words, what happened at your school is exactly what I said happened - they were not common and were taken seriously.

    Go back to that school and learn some reading comprehension moron.

  194. I'm more surprised this guy got in to Harvard? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So the police caught the guy not tracing the through tor but they traced it through the University's wifi for tor session being made within.
    If the guy made a vpn or used outside the University then he might have gotten away with it?

    I'm kinda surprised he didn't pay attention to the wifi session. On the other hand, did the police go over every mac address in the building where the wifi was being connected? The only way to pin his laptop down is to match the mac address against the wifi record. If so, then we're looking at at least a good week worth of searching every student in the area where the wifi covered and if the student got rid of the laptop, it would end up an unsolved mystery.

  195. Re:Sounds like he visited torproject.org recently. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    a-b-c-d-e-f-g-h-i->a

    Less links = more traffic

  196. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just boot with an live image of something and do a macchanger.
    Send your deed and reboot.
    All traces of communication log etc on the computer was never recorded in hard drive thanks to the live iso and macchanger would make it impossible to pin it against your laptop.

  197. nothing by geekoid · · Score: 1

    is ever truly anonymous on the internet. Nothing.

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  198. A couple things wrong.... by EkriirkE · · Score: 1

    1) Is this FUD from the FBI re:Tor trying to discourage it where they actually used other methods to find him, e.g. Harvard logging traffic and Tor did its job? 2) Don't shit where you eat. Use a public network, like a café

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  199. Nothing to see here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Harvard Makes you register for your network (I go there). Easy enough to find out who's been TOR-ing.

  200. Re: "because it originated from the wireless netwo by dkman · · Score: 1

    When you call in a bomb threat for a bomb that doesn't exist no physical damage is done.

    When you start a fire in a trash can the building may catch on fire. Even if it's not your intention to cause a real fire, that may happen.

    Just pulling the fire alarm itself will probably not cause enough of a delay to get you out of the test.

    Moral is: Just study. (aka, do the work)

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  201. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    According to this study, 30% of Tor traffic is already ass hats:

    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/09/18/study_finds_onethird_of_all_tor_traffic_is_fraudulent/

  202. Re:Sounds like he visited torproject.org recently. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... and they are not going to use it for this kind of case.

    They are if all it is is an easy database lookup and some parallel construction.

  203. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But he is correct in saying that it can seem funny. To the kids because they never felt there was a real threat. It probably wasn't funny to the cops or the teachers as they couldn't know if there was a real threat or not. Though that really only applies to America where bombings just didn't happen enough for it to register on kids back in the past. Now the bomb threats and real bombs seems to happen often enough that I suspect even young kids can get scared when a bomb threat is called in. Certainly any college age kid is going to realize this could be the real thing so even if there is no real threat there's still going to be a certain amount of fear that remains after the 'all clear' is given. tl:dr Bomb threats used to seem silly to kids but not any more.

  204. Obligatory Onion! by ulatekh · · Score: 1

    The Onion already did a great "exposé" of this...Are Tests Biased Against Students That Don't Give A...?

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  205. Sigh by xenobyte · · Score: 1

    Please RTFA. They only traced him because he used Harvards wireless network to access TOR, and the bomb threats came an anonymous email service accessed from TOR. Had he sent the email from a cafe off-campus they would not have been able to trace him.

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  206. Re: "because it originated from the wireless netwo by bingoUV · · Score: 1

    If you are capable of committing the crime, and have the antisocial tendency, how about this :

    1. Give warning of crime.
    2. Actually commit the crime according to the warning.

    Now you not only have succeeded in committing the crime , which you wanted to do anyway, you have granted a tool in the hands of your antisocial friends who are themselves not capable of committing the crime. They will now be able to send society into a tizzy just by giving a false warning of the crime about to be committed.

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  207. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by MariusBoo · · Score: 1

    You don't want anybody to talk to the cops, guilty OR innocent.

    This is because if only one group talks to the cops it leads to information unraveling (i.e. innocent ppl talk -> if you shutup you admit you're guilty, so you better talk and get some better treatment or whatever.)

    The only way the fifth works is if it works for everybody, otherwise it's useless.

  208. Great headline! by Sloppy · · Score: 1

    I see what you did there, Slashdot editors. Brilliant.

    If you had used an accurate headline, such as "Bomb hoax perp caught despite using the target's own network." then the "despite" part would have sounded stupid and you would have had an obviously non-story, right on the face of it. But by throwing in a random unrelated part of the story and misleadingly implying something about it, you made it sound interesting! More people need to learn this trick: lies make things interesting!

    A guy puts on a mask and walks into a bank. He hands the teller a note, "My name is John Smith, and this is a robbery. Shhh. Give me $10k." Police later investigate John Smith, and confirm it was him. Headline: "robber caught despite using mask" because, clearly, masks are an important and very relevant part of the story!

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  209. Re:"because it originated from the wireless networ by fatphil · · Score: 1

    Given that your parenthetical explanation choses exactly the opposite case to the one I proposed, it's clearly not relevant.

    And nothing I've suggested has in any way made the fifth amendment not work.

    You're gibbering. Calm down and have a nice cup of tea or something.

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  210. Obligatory Comment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Jury nullification is still a possibility unless the case is moved to USDC Eastern Virginia where the jury pool is a rubber stamp for the prosecution.

  211. Obviously... by HickoryDickory · · Score: 1

    Clearly not a computer science major.

  212. obsolete attempt at anonymity by gzuckier · · Score: 1

    i propose a more modern solution, where those wishing anonymity would use some sort of object which places ink on paper manually, in a pattern which resembles a generic font and would thus be recognizable as printed words, to communicate the message. this would then be placed in some sort of opaque paper wrapper and consigned to a service which would carry it to the proposed recipient, whose physical location would be placed on the outside of the paper wrapping in a fashion analogous to the address of an email message. there could be some nominal charge for this service, like 46 cents.

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  213. Re:Sounds like he visited torproject.org recently. by chfriley · · Score: 1

    OR they did use it in this case, realized it wasn't a "real" threat and so did not pass along the information to the local police.

  214. Re:Harvard - NOT MIT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Remember this was Harvard, NOT MIT.

    Their technical skills may be lacking in comparison.

  215. In the good old days by slickrockpete · · Score: 1

    When I was in middle school (sometime around 1970) someone would call in a bomb threat every afternoon for about a week. They were beautiful spring afternoons spent outside horsing around with my friends.

    They finally caught the guy. He always called from the same pay phone a couple of blocks from school during lunch. He wanted to get out of his french class. They gave him a good finger wagging and explained that this was actually a serious federal offense the could land him in gigantic trouble and made him go to french class. It didn't happen any more. I wonder if he continued to stay out of jail.

  216. consider the personality by pupsocket · · Score: 1

    This is someone obsessed enough with credentials to put the entire community into mortal fear and to kill a whole day for a group of people known to get a lot done in a day.

    Shame and ruin will suffice. Jail won't be the worst punishment. Being recognized in public will.

  217. Pardon him by NewYork · · Score: 1

    I hope Obama Administration pardons him. He is just an immature kid/student.

  218. for what a B? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Most Harvard students get straight A's anyways.

    Not sure what he would have lost if he just took the test

  219. Stupid by jbee02 · · Score: 1

    Ruined his life to get out of an exam how stupid