Of course it's a very serious topic that should concern anyone who wants to maintain a convenient climate, but do we have to link everything to global warming now?
I see this question come up a lot, but let's phrase it another way:
If something negative is found to be linked to global warming, should it be covered up?
"Stupid real-life science is gonna convince politicians to make us pollute less which is less cheap! I think I'll take that fictional science from The Core instead, that's way cooler!"
Believe it (not a researcher) + know it and can prove it = 64%
Skeptic + believe it is a hoax + know it is a hoax and can prove it + real but not man-made = 33%
(I know it doesn't add up to a hundred, but the Slashdot poll rounds down to the nearest %)
"With us, or Against us" has been used many times in history; but it's not always true.
This isn't with us or against us, it's scientific knowledge vs. backward science denial. Same as evolution, heliocentrism, and the long-running problem of bullshit medicine.
A few yeas ago a poll found that about 1/3 of Slashdotters are climate denialists. They're just a minority of loud idiots, although a minority still far too large for my liking.
Anything that's on the form and legit basically, but I don't move money around in foreign bank accounts or use shell corporations. You think there's no difference between deducting student loan interest and using a private Swiss bank account or a "dutch sandwich" arrangement etc?
Agreeing to pool money to purchase a shared resource is a delicious orgy of theft that all consenting parties enjoy the spoils of. You should try it some time, it's great.
And take far more as well. They benefit hugely from public education (subsidized and cheap workforce), pollute in huge amounts with air transportation, practically rape the road system by profiting from truck transportation, and considering that they'd be first into the guillotine they benefit the most from welfare as well.
And as a fraction of their earnings they pay the least.
Tax avoidance is legal but IMO, can be horrendously unethical. And I think you vastly understate the difference it can make. GE paid zero taxes one year through tax "avoidance" and the famous tech megacorps are only "avoiding" as well.
I don't follow your argument. The "golden gooses" (I think you mean geese) are other people like me, who are not able (not just unwilling) to pay for everything themselves, but like me are willing to chip in (unlike the tax "avoiders.")
In government by Kickstarter, money would truly equal political power (and Kickstarter would be the world's largest megacorp from all those transaction fees)...doesn't sound good to me.
Only if you're an amoral monster with a heart as dead and black as a lump of coal. If only they were standing next to you instead of on the other side of the planet, or better yet, a bunch of WASPs, you might see things differently.
Government slaughter of civilians should be everyone's problem.
Cody's a spiteful smalldick with an underdeveloped sense of morality, who can't tell the difference between a weapon and a tool and his end goal is to either have all weapons regulations dropped, have all weapons regulations subverted so easily as to make them meaningless, or to get geeks to side with gun nuts, all victims of gun violence be damned. To Cody, no amount of innocent blood is worth having to fill out a little more paperwork once in a while.
Well the government runs law enforcement, public education, welfare, and infrastructure maintenance, I like having those things and can't pay for them all by myself...
I don't know why he has such a problem supporting the society we live in. He says it's all going to be mismanaged so you might as well keep as much as you can...not too different from US libertarian rhetoric really. I think he enjoys the challenge of hacking the tax system more than the savings.
I can't wrap my head around why would they ever not go after the property of private tax-dodging millionaires, who have little or no influence on politics and/or national economy.
LOLWUT? These are the people who fund the super-PACs (and perhaps more importantly, give the 5/6-digit under-the-table "campaign donations") and run the megacorps, they have LOTS of political and economic influence.
Either the Web has to keep up, or it will become less and less relevant to modern computing. Not overnight of course, but times change. At one point, if you told people the Web would supplant Gopher, they just laughed.
So the web has to become the enemy to beat the enemy...
I was hanging out with a high school buddy the other day. We're both geeks, I went into getting an IT degree and work in web dev/sysadmin and many others, he went to a game design school and does freelance graphic design. Both of us are, economically, losers. We were talking about a buddy we knew who we nicknamed "the black Johnny Bravo." Grade-A doofus but a smooth talker with a handsome face and a winning smile. He's a real estate agent and just bought a new Mercedes. All from middle-class families, except maybe mine which is middle class *at best.*
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Depends on how long the material is pulled and the girth of the feedstock.
No, your tech is all vaporware.
Of course it's a very serious topic that should concern anyone who wants to maintain a convenient climate, but do we have to link everything to global warming now?
I see this question come up a lot, but let's phrase it another way:
If something negative is found to be linked to global warming, should it be covered up?
He tried but he wasn't totally successful. Therefore, global warming is WORSE THAN HITLER.
"Stupid real-life science is gonna convince politicians to make us pollute less which is less cheap! I think I'll take that fictional science from The Core instead, that's way cooler!"
A more recent poll showed that 2/3rd of statistics are made up.
The very latest statistics suggest that you are 100% full of shit. Read it and weep:
http://slashdot.org/poll/2272/what-is-your-position-on-climate-change
Believe it (not a researcher) + know it and can prove it = 64%
Skeptic + believe it is a hoax + know it is a hoax and can prove it + real but not man-made = 33%
(I know it doesn't add up to a hundred, but the Slashdot poll rounds down to the nearest %)
"With us, or Against us" has been used many times in history; but it's not always true.
This isn't with us or against us, it's scientific knowledge vs. backward science denial. Same as evolution, heliocentrism, and the long-running problem of bullshit medicine.
A few yeas ago a poll found that about 1/3 of Slashdotters are climate denialists. They're just a minority of loud idiots, although a minority still far too large for my liking.
Anything that's on the form and legit basically, but I don't move money around in foreign bank accounts or use shell corporations. You think there's no difference between deducting student loan interest and using a private Swiss bank account or a "dutch sandwich" arrangement etc?
Agreeing to pool money to purchase a shared resource is a delicious orgy of theft that all consenting parties enjoy the spoils of. You should try it some time, it's great.
And take far more as well. They benefit hugely from public education (subsidized and cheap workforce), pollute in huge amounts with air transportation, practically rape the road system by profiting from truck transportation, and considering that they'd be first into the guillotine they benefit the most from welfare as well.
And as a fraction of their earnings they pay the least.
Tax avoidance is legal but IMO, can be horrendously unethical. And I think you vastly understate the difference it can make. GE paid zero taxes one year through tax "avoidance" and the famous tech megacorps are only "avoiding" as well.
I don't follow your argument. The "golden gooses" (I think you mean geese) are other people like me, who are not able (not just unwilling) to pay for everything themselves, but like me are willing to chip in (unlike the tax "avoiders.")
Your imagination is quite limited, so let me point you in the right direction with two words: Company Town.
Not sure if serious...
In government by Kickstarter, money would truly equal political power (and Kickstarter would be the world's largest megacorp from all those transaction fees)...doesn't sound good to me.
Only if you're an amoral monster with a heart as dead and black as a lump of coal. If only they were standing next to you instead of on the other side of the planet, or better yet, a bunch of WASPs, you might see things differently.
Government slaughter of civilians should be everyone's problem.
Cody's a spiteful smalldick with an underdeveloped sense of morality, who can't tell the difference between a weapon and a tool and his end goal is to either have all weapons regulations dropped, have all weapons regulations subverted so easily as to make them meaningless, or to get geeks to side with gun nuts, all victims of gun violence be damned. To Cody, no amount of innocent blood is worth having to fill out a little more paperwork once in a while.
Well the government runs law enforcement, public education, welfare, and infrastructure maintenance, I like having those things and can't pay for them all by myself...
You attention whoring shitsack, you fucking happy now?
I don't know why he has such a problem supporting the society we live in. He says it's all going to be mismanaged so you might as well keep as much as you can...not too different from US libertarian rhetoric really. I think he enjoys the challenge of hacking the tax system more than the savings.
I'm anonymous enough, why not? It's hardly a secret, ask any accountant.
Pointing it out for those who don't know has value.
I can't wrap my head around why would they ever not go after the property of private tax-dodging millionaires, who have little or no influence on politics and/or national economy.
LOLWUT? These are the people who fund the super-PACs (and perhaps more importantly, give the 5/6-digit under-the-table "campaign donations") and run the megacorps, they have LOTS of political and economic influence.
This. My dad is in this business, and they're all neck deep in "tax avoidance" and many of them dabble in outright tax evasion.
My dad also tries to do the same thing with very middle-class amounts of money...not much comes of it, I'm convinced he enjoys paperwork.
Either the Web has to keep up, or it will become less and less relevant to modern computing. Not overnight of course, but times change. At one point, if you told people the Web would supplant Gopher, they just laughed.
So the web has to become the enemy to beat the enemy...
This was a moral loss and no practical gain.
From a previous discussion on this group:
Facebook's Wealth Demands Unlimited Slaves
I was hanging out with a high school buddy the other day. We're both geeks, I went into getting an IT degree and work in web dev/sysadmin and many others, he went to a game design school and does freelance graphic design. Both of us are, economically, losers. We were talking about a buddy we knew who we nicknamed "the black Johnny Bravo." Grade-A doofus but a smooth talker with a handsome face and a winning smile. He's a real estate agent and just bought a new Mercedes. All from middle-class families, except maybe mine which is middle class *at best.*