You're only right if there's a demand for something that can be brought back from space profitably (which may not be possible or may only exist in fringe cases). The Europeans had a demand for more gold and spices and had a pretty good idea that they could bring them back profitably. It's a much bigger hurdle to develop interstellar travel than ocean-crossing ships.
"Go forth and insert the blessed rods of Glarznaks into the primary solid waste excretion orifice of the beings in the sky, for it is good and will save them from damnation."
True it's possible that the Starfleet Federation could get a big head start on the Necromongers/Irkens, but the reverse is also true...all up to chance really, and calling it 50/50 is probably optimistic given the huge time penalty of "reasonableness" or worse yet "hesitance and bickering."
I contend (above) that such a civilization would never reach the level of advancement necessary. They'll destroy themselves (either in one big spectacular event or by wasting resources/political will on war over the long term and "die in their cradle"), or deplete their planet's resources with no backup plan.
With too much respect for freedom (aka FYGM attitude) and an insufficient sense of egalitarianism they just wouldn't reach that level of advancement. The individuals would need to accept a certain level of moderation/sacrifice for the greater good of the society.
The other possibility is that they're all a bunch of nutjobs and will be looking for a fresh planet to colonize:
I was watching that Riddick movie with the Necromongers the other day and I realized that the concept was actually very realistic. What kind of society would get into space first? The ones that put a high priority on space exploration. And what kind of civilization would do that just for the heck of it before any others? The ones that have some irrational reason to do it driven by some kind of religious fervor. While the "Star Trek like" science-driven societies pace themselves in a sensible manner, the religious nutjobs would throw every single resource their entire civilization could at getting into space to please their space deity or whatever. If there's an advanced space-faring race out there you probably want to steer clear of them.
Wouldn't planet-based solar be far more affordable and efficient, and produce more than enough energy for a planet with population controlled at a reasonable level, which should be expected from any advanced civilization? Seems like it would be unlikely for an advanced civilization to build one of these given the other options (including fusion power)...
Modern EVs use mostly or entirely Li-ion, not lead-acid (which are terribly heavy and poor in energy density and would make for a terrible EV). Lithium batteries can be recycled so you have to look at the efficiency and pollution output of the recycling plant.
Electric cars do help, the summary certainly makes it seem like there isn't a big difference between EV and ICE cars. In running carbon footprint, there is usually a massive difference, and there are only a few places (in the US and China) where an EV could be dirtier than an ICE vehicle.
No it doesn't. But then your car's MPG rating doesn't take into account the oil rig, oil refinery, oil tanker, fuel truck, and gas station power consumption.
Most, no, only in a couple of states. In most places electric cars will be much better. I've done the research before. But now I'm wasting my breath on a Limbaugh fan.
If you want to be friends with stupid anti-environmentalists for some reason, just tell them "No, I just don't want to give so much money to them durn Arabs." Then you can go to a Nugent concert together.
Mod parent up! I am sick and tired of hearing this shit, this and the lifetime costs and efficiency of panels used on spacecraft being compared to earth-based solar panels! It's a real-life misinformation campaign and everyone's falling for it.
Is log data just access records for certain accounts, or does it include user history (sites browsed collected through GA etc?) If not I'd guess that's what it is.
It's a camera aperture, clearly. But maybe we can find out which day goatse launched and put some hands around the "O" as a user-submitted logo for the anniversary.
I was going to make a point along those lines - is this going to attract the attention of the potential-STEM crowd or just clue them in to the fact that the mainstream doesn't give two shits about science (and is enamored with silly but highly profitable frivolities instead) earlier than desired?
This, on the other hand, I thought was immensely cool:
Getting to run your code on a robot in SPACE!? That's the stuff that makes geeks cream their pants. Sadly it's "defense" related in this case but it's still a great example of PR for future talent done right.
I know I did, and $1-2m is a lifetime's worth of pay...if he has access to that money after he gets out, that's a damn good deal, he'll never have to work again, or could have many options for starting his own business if he wants to.
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You're only right if there's a demand for something that can be brought back from space profitably (which may not be possible or may only exist in fringe cases). The Europeans had a demand for more gold and spices and had a pretty good idea that they could bring them back profitably. It's a much bigger hurdle to develop interstellar travel than ocean-crossing ships.
Hey who knows :-P
"Go forth and insert the blessed rods of Glarznaks into the primary solid waste excretion orifice of the beings in the sky, for it is good and will save them from damnation."
Nope we sure aren't.
True it's possible that the Starfleet Federation could get a big head start on the Necromongers/Irkens, but the reverse is also true...all up to chance really, and calling it 50/50 is probably optimistic given the huge time penalty of "reasonableness" or worse yet "hesitance and bickering."
I contend (above) that such a civilization would never reach the level of advancement necessary. They'll destroy themselves (either in one big spectacular event or by wasting resources/political will on war over the long term and "die in their cradle"), or deplete their planet's resources with no backup plan.
With too much respect for freedom (aka FYGM attitude) and an insufficient sense of egalitarianism they just wouldn't reach that level of advancement. The individuals would need to accept a certain level of moderation/sacrifice for the greater good of the society.
The other possibility is that they're all a bunch of nutjobs and will be looking for a fresh planet to colonize:
http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3166045&cid=41559185
I was watching that Riddick movie with the Necromongers the other day and I realized that the concept was actually very realistic. What kind of society would get into space first? The ones that put a high priority on space exploration. And what kind of civilization would do that just for the heck of it before any others? The ones that have some irrational reason to do it driven by some kind of religious fervor. While the "Star Trek like" science-driven societies pace themselves in a sensible manner, the religious nutjobs would throw every single resource their entire civilization could at getting into space to please their space deity or whatever. If there's an advanced space-faring race out there you probably want to steer clear of them.
See also: The Irkens from Invader Zim
Wouldn't planet-based solar be far more affordable and efficient, and produce more than enough energy for a planet with population controlled at a reasonable level, which should be expected from any advanced civilization? Seems like it would be unlikely for an advanced civilization to build one of these given the other options (including fusion power)...
$54k is enough to set yourself up nicely in Mexico, guy wasn't too smart. Not enough to do crime that requires fleeing for though IMO.
LOL mod parent up!
It's the truth, real maple syrup is hard to find and bloody expensive. It's a high-end specialty ingredient.
Modern EVs use mostly or entirely Li-ion, not lead-acid (which are terribly heavy and poor in energy density and would make for a terrible EV). Lithium batteries can be recycled so you have to look at the efficiency and pollution output of the recycling plant.
Electric cars do help, the summary certainly makes it seem like there isn't a big difference between EV and ICE cars. In running carbon footprint, there is usually a massive difference, and there are only a few places (in the US and China) where an EV could be dirtier than an ICE vehicle.
No it doesn't. But then your car's MPG rating doesn't take into account the oil rig, oil refinery, oil tanker, fuel truck, and gas station power consumption.
Most, no, only in a couple of states. In most places electric cars will be much better. I've done the research before. But now I'm wasting my breath on a Limbaugh fan.
If you want to be friends with stupid anti-environmentalists for some reason, just tell them "No, I just don't want to give so much money to them durn Arabs." Then you can go to a Nugent concert together.
Mod parent up! I am sick and tired of hearing this shit, this and the lifetime costs and efficiency of panels used on spacecraft being compared to earth-based solar panels! It's a real-life misinformation campaign and everyone's falling for it.
Is log data just access records for certain accounts, or does it include user history (sites browsed collected through GA etc?) If not I'd guess that's what it is.
It's a camera aperture, clearly. But maybe we can find out which day goatse launched and put some hands around the "O" as a user-submitted logo for the anniversary.
I, for one, would welcome our robotic space overlords.
I could see the value of sharing your location with friends, I'd just never use Foursquare to do it for numerous privacy-related reasons.
Geeky dreaming time is over, realism ENGAGE!
I'm guessing NASA just asked Foursquare to manually fudge the data in, I'd be shocked if Foursquare supported locations on other planets at all.
I was going to make a point along those lines - is this going to attract the attention of the potential-STEM crowd or just clue them in to the fact that the mainstream doesn't give two shits about science (and is enamored with silly but highly profitable frivolities instead) earlier than desired?
This, on the other hand, I thought was immensely cool:
http://science.slashdot.org/story/12/09/01/2135239/darpas-phoenix-program-to-bring-satellites-back-from-the-dead
Getting to run your code on a robot in SPACE!? That's the stuff that makes geeks cream their pants. Sadly it's "defense" related in this case but it's still a great example of PR for future talent done right.
I know I did, and $1-2m is a lifetime's worth of pay...if he has access to that money after he gets out, that's a damn good deal, he'll never have to work again, or could have many options for starting his own business if he wants to.
Came here to say this. Use those phones with Asterisk, easy peasy. There's also Trixbox for the textophobic Windows admin.
Oooooh! Out-pedanted, GP!