the thing is that in the UK, you probably don't need one anhyway as consumer protection laws cover you anyway. something that you buy (excluding consumables) has to last a "reasonable amount of time" no matter what the warrantee states. ie if you buy a big widescreen TV and it dies 18 months after you bought it (and 6 months after the gaurantee ran out) then officially they still owe you 1 new TV and most people would expect a high ticket item like a TV to last at the very least, 3-5 years.
the big problem is that hardly any shops beleive that this is true (or refuse to honour it without being taken to court) but it is part of UK law. here is a FAQ entry from the UK gov trading standards page as example:
Q. I bought a fridge/freezer about 18 months ago, and the freezer section has completely failed. I went back to the shop, but they refused to do anything as it was outside the original 12 month guarantee. What are my rights?
A. Firstly, when you buy goods from a shop, you enter into a contract under the Sale of Goods Act 1979 (as amended). This holds the shop liable for up to six years after purchase (Limitation Act 1980), providing that you can show that the problem is down to an unreasonable fault and not normal wear and tear. Secondly, remember that the guarantee is in addition to these statutory legal rights. Don't be taken in by the shop's argument here - they are using the issue of the guarantee as a red herring to try to avoid their legal obligations toward you. See our leaflet 'Buying Goods' for more information on your rights.
so guarantees and warranties are all very well, but the good old "sale of goods act" does alot more for the consumer, if only he knew it existed (and can argue the shop manager into beleiving that it carries weight and that he will lose if taken to court).
What irritates me more is when people refer to junk email as "SPAM" instead of "spam"
actually, isn't that part of hormel's deal? we can continue to call UBE (insert full stops as required) SPAM as long as we capitalise it and they won't complain or try to sue anyone over dilution of trademark etc. (ie as spam is actually a product they sell).
I had a quick squizz at their website to find that link but I couldn't immediately see it.
Remember NNTP (news) "Netiquette" that said to put your email in each post you make? Who does that anymore?
I do, and my news drop email address doesn't get as much spam as you might think. mind you, I get lots of spam in general, but not very much to my news drop
without causing too much harm to other "important" (if you can consider IM and Quake3 important) traffic to pass.
surely it's important if you're paying for the line?
I don't like blocking ports at an isp level for it's consumers unless they have specifically asked for it, it's a slipperly slope, perhaps now it's 135-139 and 445 but that list will only expand and then you'll find yourself having to justify to some low rate tech why you want/need a certain port open. and I imagine that isp's might want some money each time you ask for changes to your port blocking profile, after all, they have to spend time doing the change (and how long will it take?)
I don't mind it being an option you can tick when you sign up but I know how to firewall my box thanks and unless I get DoS'd by someone then I'd like to keep my connection open.
you know Zee, I remember discussing the viability and usefulness of database driven filesystems about a year or two ago at our last co and you swore blind that they were a waste of resources with very little practical application:)
I have to admit, I can see some usefulness of this kind of approach depending on how it's done. the ability to keep queries on the fs around as "virtual directories" for example could be very useful. I like the idea of:
mount_sql/var/maillogs "select files from "logfiles" where program = "exim" or program = "courier-imap";
or even the ability to create raw files from the realtime merge of several files. I know that we can effectively do alot of this all now but I do think it holds alot of promise as a new FS paradigm, esp if one adds the abiliti to extract meta data from the files themseles, the way that rieser4 was promising us. one could have standard filesystem plugins to cater for all the different filetypes you have.
ls 'select files where type="audio" and type="video" and artist="shakira"'
should bring up all your mp3's and avi's of the columbian singer. of course, this all relies on good metadata, but isn't that what we rely on l33t kazaa rippers for?
dave
PS. yeah, I'm out of practise with my sql statements, so shoot me, you know what I mean:)
last time we had a discussion like this on slashdot we were at odds as I recall, this time we're on the same side:)
I think your point about anonymity is a good one. AMTP won't necessarily kill it, but IM2K would
it's funny, in my various discussions about the value of anonymity, there are so many people who don't get it. why should people have anonymity, whats the point and, my favourite, if they have nothing to hide... well, you know the rest.
and you know I have a hard time argueing with them. I know I want it to be around and I try and explain several contrived situations asbout why it's a good thing (usually private human rights activists in X third world countries come into it;) but still some people just don't get why a lack of anonymity worries me. but then, of course, they are my more fascist friends:) (and, surprisingly, that doesn't don't include you, who woulda thought;)
I'm already having trouble talking to friends in the UK because of generous additions to spam blacklists
I only use 1 blacklist at the moment, spamcop's, and even that doesn't stop mail to postmaster (he says... thinking, is the postmaster entry above the blacklist entry in exim's conf... think it is yes). mind you, a friend suggested denying blacklisted ip's with a "user unknown" error, as an attempt to get spammers to give up on that address, not sure how successful it would be.
however, afaik spamcop isn't as zealous as some other lists, like spews for example who just seem far too keen to put whole networks on.
The problems with IM2K are pretty well known, and we're still waiting for a solution;) My biggest issue is having to download from a remote site at 0.5kbps instead of a full (wow) 56kbaud
well, exactly. the whole point of mail is that it is fie and forget, you send it and it should arrive at the recipients mailbox to wait for them to check their mail, and hopefully that mailserver should be local to them so they can get their mail quickly and with little delay (gotta check the daily spam).
Pay per e-mail sucks because it can't account for foreign exchange disparities
hmm.. hadn't thought about that one but you're quite right. that would suck mightily, not only with the disparity of what a rand is worth today vs tomorrow (hmm.. I'll hold off sending this email until the exchange rate improves) but also with the fact that the same value of money is worth different amounts to people from different countries, ie the price of bread here vs the price of bread there. a penny per email for me isn't that much (exlcuding mailing lists) though I would still resent paying it, however, the cent equivalent of a penny per email costs more in za as the cost of living is lower and people get paid less (in general, of course).
The countries that will be the worst affected are the poorest 3rd world countries, that most need the benefit of cheap Internet access to improve their economic condition.
hmm.. while I do advocate more widespread access to t'internet, I think that most third world countries have alot more they need to improve their economic situation, more equitable IP laws for example.
I agree with some of your points, I'm not sure that this is the way forward, spam is an evil perhaps but I've not seen a proposed solution to deal with it that I am happy with. I certainly get my fair share of spam which I tag at the server and filter into a special spam folder in my imap mailstore. this is the best solution I've come up with so far for myself and it works pretty well.
the big problem I have with most of the proposed solutions is that it destroys the open and free ethos of the internet, the ability to send email to anhyone, perhaps anonymously is a good thing I think, sure it's abused and there is a certain amount of locking down that we all do, not being an open relay or using dns blacklists for example, but in general we accept mail from anyone using well defined standard allowing the interconnection of any mua/mta/OS to any other.
I don't like segmenting the net into distinct chunks that cannot communicate, ie smtp vs amtp vs internet mail 2000 etc. it's like the IM networks which, imho, really ought to be able to all intercommunicate but can't.
yes, spam is an abuse of the system, but I find most of the cures worse than the disease. maybe my spam problem isn't as bad as some (around 30-40 emails a day reach my spam box and a small few a week make it to my inbox) and while I'd like to get less spam, I'd rather peer through my spam folder once every day/few days to scan for false positives, than have a good chunk of the net completely unable to talk to me should they want/have a need to.
im2k is an interesting idea but it's not short of problems itself. I want my emails to be waiting for me in my local mailbox, not have to chweck my mail, click allow on 18 mails, deny on 32 and then "download" and wait for the 3 meg avi attachment from a friend on dialup (and would he have to be online at the time? or would we have im2k smarthosts?).
also the idea of "pay per email" systems I disagree with too, maybe I'm a tight git, but why should I pay to send email, I've already paid for my bandwidth to (mostly) freely access the net and hosts on it, and what about mailing lists I run a few low bandwidth mailling lists which would mean that other people (the ppl on my lists) would be costing me (the list owner and mailserver admin) money.
while I like the idea of more of our email being encrypted (my server supports tls, with my own self signed cert) I certainly don't want to restrict my incoming email to only those that come in one TLS links, a) hardly anyone uses it, more the pity and b) I get spam via tls too. I don't really feel like going out and buying a proper cert and this stuff isn't a commercial venture, it's for me and some friends.
the other thing is that just because I don't like spam, doesn;t mean that others don't actively want it. it's the same reason that I disgree with those who say that ISP's ought to firewall ports 135-139 etc to stop ppl using windows networking over the internet, after all, it's only supposed to be a lan only protocol. well, perhaps it is, but that doesn't stop some people wanting to share a directory over the net, and why shouldn't they, if it hurts no-one else?
I don't like disrupting the supposedly free end to end connectivity that we supposedly have.
thanks, it is nice having your own mailserver to allow you to customise all this stuff yorself.
often the functionality is there, it just needs configuring. after all, you do have to tell it what certificates to use (or to generate some if the software offers that option).
I know that notes supports TLS. this needs checking but I beleive that some versions advertise TLS out of the box but then fall over as they have no cert's configured:). don't know about exchange and groupwise but I think that most MTA's can support TLS, they just need someone who's heard of it to set it up.
some mta's (like exim, my mta of choice) will use TLS when sending mail if the other mailserver offers it, even if they don't have it configured themselves.
mind you, I think that some mta's have issues pipelining multiple messages over a tls connection. I think that exim needs to teardown and restart a connection per message to the same host, if it's working over TLS. not that it's a big issue, as no other bugger seems to support it:)
mind you, I noticed that the samaritans mailserver supports TLS in both directions, that was nice to see.
we can do that now. SMTP supports TLS (transport layer security) for encrypted mail transfer and you can either use bought cert's, or self signed ones. and you can config your email server to only accept properly signed cert's if you like. the problem is that a) hardly anyone uses SMTP over TLS and b) I've actually received spam via TLS before too.
my server is configured with a self signed cert to advertise TLS and use it where possible, but to also allow normal SMTP too so that I can actually get most of my mail. I use spamassassin to filter the spam itself into a spam folder that I check once a day and clear.
I can't speak for the other mta's, but with exim, no it won't. it emulates most of sendmail's flags and on freebsd, where sendmail is a mailwrapper, it ends up calling the exim binary to send the mail and all is well.
The virus checker should verify if the virus spoofs from addresses.
which it does by...? the thing is, how do you detect if the address is spoofed atm? the proposed RMX standard might help if everybody implemented it but will they?
Check the relay domains in the message headers. If they don't match the 'From:' domain, don't bother with the autoresponder.
woah, thats not a good solution. you're assuming that each mailserver only serves 1 domain and that it's in that domain. my mailserver (as in, belongs to me) is responsible for about 4 domains yet is only in 1. my personal vanity domain goes through that server but if you look through the headers, the only mention of my vanity domain is in the frmo field as thats who the mail came from.
I'd be seriosuly worried about losing mail if I did the same as you do.
actually, I think you can. this isn't like firing someone becuase of their race/religion etc. think about private clubs. if a club wants to be women only, afaik it can be. as long as it's a private club then I think you can mostly set any rules you like.
a law which is not enforced by itself is useful when the authorities catch them for something else
ooh, no, an unenforced law is a very dangerous thing imho. in general, if a law is unenforced then everyone will feel like they can do it, which leads lots of people to do it with no social stigma, and then the police can crack down on those ppl they don't like who are breaking the law and leave the others.
if everyone breaks a law routinely, why is it there? (this could be applied to filesharing too)
yes, it can be useful in some cases perhaps, but much moe dangerous in others I'd say. afaik in many countries, including the UK, if a law hasn;t been used in a certani period of time, then if anyone is taken to court over it then first the law must pass muster for being on the books in the first place.
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dave
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exim by default does try and validate the mailserver the mail claims to come from, to the extent of checking to see if the from domain has mx records. it can also be configured to "callout" to verify domains, if when it recieves an email it makes an smtp connection to the primary mx for the sending domain and see's if it would accept an email for that user. thats pretty expensive though and hardly anyone turns it on.
yeah, the general consensus is that usb isn;t the best idea, and as it happens I have a single 2.5" bus powered firewire disk, not usb. (which freebsd doesn't work correctly with, which is annoying:)
I hadn;t realised that usb had such a bad rep but firewire is just as good, although the controllers might be a tad more expensive. only thing is that atm I really can't afford to play around like that atm, I've just had a lappie pinched so
one day perhaps, mind you, the other guy seems to be doing the idea well enough.
thank you:) yay, a positive reply. well done, your project looks quite interesting. you've gone to alot more effort than I have. I've just thought about this a bit and lamented it's none existence, you've actually done something.
like many people, I used to have a harddisk in one of those removeable caddies for taking stuff to friends, usually pirated software, back when I was into that sort of thing. the problem with that was that it was big, clunky, not hot swappable and different caddy manufacturers all had their own connectors, well, quite a few used the big 'ole centronics ones, but they all put it at a slightly different offset etc:)
when I discovered usb and firewire hd's I thought it was a great innovation. everyone has the same connectors on their mobo and you could just take a drive around, plug it in and use it. problem being of course that you had to power the drives seperately which was clunky, and they were always external which made things untidy. I always though it was a shame that no-one ever made an internal caddy for usb or firewire drives. as I said in previous posts, a 2.5" hd can be bus powered by either bus format and it would be very neat. the thing in the machine could line the caddy up, as you push it in, with the plug at the back and as you push it in, the plug makes contact with the socket and bob's your uncle. and it's hot swappable by design.
if the caddies look good then it could be a zip disk replacement, esp as the other person doesn;t need a matching caddy, they can just use the normal cable.
after that I thought that it could be a great way to do cheap ide disk raid or even JBOD. if the disks were marked then it wouldn't matter what order they were put in and you could do with them what you like. after all, some machines can even boot off firewire.
then just use a connector with more conductors and route data and power over that
I was, it was called usb or firewire:)
I was thinking that it would be based on standards, that way it's cheaper and more likely to be accepted.
I've not got any plans on making this myself, I don't going to start carving bits of plastic out to make caddies etc. just putting an idea out there, if everyon hates it, oh well, I'll live. I still think it has some merit though.
1) I mean usb interfaced ide drives, not usb keys. 2) see 1 3) fibre channel is getting way too expensive, this is all about being on the cheap 4) see 1 5) see 1 6) yeah, I've worked in a datacentre, I know. this is not about being for enterprise storage and such but just a cheapie method for home use. people buy usb and firewire drives after all, this is expanding on that a little 7) for business use I agree with you, for home use I would say that it is acceptable depending on the situation 8):)
people seem to think I'm on crack with this idea (re the first reply to my comment) without really listening to what my idea is. okay, it's not one of my best ideas but I do think that it has some merit, even if someone only created a 3.5" bay that took a single usb/firewire HD in a caddy. it could be pretty cheap and makes for easy hot-swappable storage. also if whoever you take it to doesn't have the matching caddy then they can just hook up with a normal usb cable/firewire cable depending on what tech you decide on.
come on, ppl, I've got +5 interesting on this, someone give me a positive reply please:)
well, the creatures are microbes, not insects or worms. and they live deep underwater next to active volcano's where pressure plays a part too. so yes, I imagine it is 130C
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everything is good for you, in moderation
and everything is bad for you in excess. you just need to find the proper level.
dave
the big problem is that hardly any shops beleive that this is true (or refuse to honour it without being taken to court) but it is part of UK law. here is a FAQ entry from the UK gov trading standards page as example:
so guarantees and warranties are all very well, but the good old "sale of goods act" does alot more for the consumer, if only he knew it existed (and can argue the shop manager into beleiving that it carries weight and that he will lose if taken to court).
dave
one that would take minutes to transfer on your a600?
I dno't recall the amiga 600 being well known for fast transfers, it's only got a 7.x mhz cpu after all
dave
What irritates me more is when people refer to junk email as "SPAM" instead of "spam"
actually, isn't that part of hormel's deal? we can continue to call UBE (insert full stops as required) SPAM as long as we capitalise it and they won't complain or try to sue anyone over dilution of trademark etc. (ie as spam is actually a product they sell).
I had a quick squizz at their website to find that link but I couldn't immediately see it.
dave
Remember NNTP (news) "Netiquette" that said to put your email in each post you make? Who does that anymore?
I do, and my news drop email address doesn't get as much spam as you might think. mind you, I get lots of spam in general, but not very much to my news drop
dave
To grate cheese, you need a piece of metal with a bunch of raised holes
actually, the holes are raised, it's just the metal surround thats flat
dave
without causing too much harm to other "important" (if you can consider IM and Quake3 important) traffic to pass.
surely it's important if you're paying for the line?
I don't like blocking ports at an isp level for it's consumers unless they have specifically asked for it, it's a slipperly slope, perhaps now it's 135-139 and 445 but that list will only expand and then you'll find yourself having to justify to some low rate tech why you want/need a certain port open. and I imagine that isp's might want some money each time you ask for changes to your port blocking profile, after all, they have to spend time doing the change (and how long will it take?)
I don't mind it being an option you can tick when you sign up but I know how to firewall my box thanks and unless I get DoS'd by someone then I'd like to keep my connection open.
dave
err yeah, what he said :)
dave
you know Zee, I remember discussing the viability and usefulness of database driven filesystems about a year or two ago at our last co and you swore blind that they were a waste of resources with very little practical application :)
/var/maillogs "select files from "logfiles" where program = "exim" or program = "courier-imap";
:)
I have to admit, I can see some usefulness of this kind of approach depending on how it's done. the ability to keep queries on the fs around as "virtual directories" for example could be very useful. I like the idea of:
mount_sql
or even the ability to create raw files from the realtime merge of several files. I know that we can effectively do alot of this all now but I do think it holds alot of promise as a new FS paradigm, esp if one adds the abiliti to extract meta data from the files themseles, the way that rieser4 was promising us. one could have standard filesystem plugins to cater for all the different filetypes you have.
ls 'select files where type="audio" and type="video" and artist="shakira"'
should bring up all your mp3's and avi's of the columbian singer. of course, this all relies on good metadata, but isn't that what we rely on l33t kazaa rippers for?
dave
PS. yeah, I'm out of practise with my sql statements, so shoot me, you know what I mean
last time we had a discussion like this on slashdot we were at odds as I recall, this time we're on the same side :)
;) but still some people just don't get why a lack of anonymity worries me. but then, of course, they are my more fascist friends :) (and, surprisingly, that doesn't don't include you, who woulda thought ;)
;) My biggest issue is having to download from a remote site at 0.5kbps instead of a full (wow) 56kbaud
I think your point about anonymity is a good one. AMTP won't necessarily kill it, but IM2K would
it's funny, in my various discussions about the value of anonymity, there are so many people who don't get it. why should people have anonymity, whats the point and, my favourite, if they have nothing to hide... well, you know the rest.
and you know I have a hard time argueing with them. I know I want it to be around and I try and explain several contrived situations asbout why it's a good thing (usually private human rights activists in X third world countries come into it
I'm already having trouble talking to friends in the UK because of generous additions to spam blacklists
I only use 1 blacklist at the moment, spamcop's, and even that doesn't stop mail to postmaster (he says... thinking, is the postmaster entry above the blacklist entry in exim's conf... think it is yes). mind you, a friend suggested denying blacklisted ip's with a "user unknown" error, as an attempt to get spammers to give up on that address, not sure how successful it would be.
however, afaik spamcop isn't as zealous as some other lists, like spews for example who just seem far too keen to put whole networks on.
The problems with IM2K are pretty well known, and we're still waiting for a solution
well, exactly. the whole point of mail is that it is fie and forget, you send it and it should arrive at the recipients mailbox to wait for them to check their mail, and hopefully that mailserver should be local to them so they can get their mail quickly and with little delay (gotta check the daily spam).
Pay per e-mail sucks because it can't account for foreign exchange disparities
hmm.. hadn't thought about that one but you're quite right. that would suck mightily, not only with the disparity of what a rand is worth today vs tomorrow (hmm.. I'll hold off sending this email until the exchange rate improves) but also with the fact that the same value of money is worth different amounts to people from different countries, ie the price of bread here vs the price of bread there. a penny per email for me isn't that much (exlcuding mailing lists) though I would still resent paying it, however, the cent equivalent of a penny per email costs more in za as the cost of living is lower and people get paid less (in general, of course).
The countries that will be the worst affected are the poorest 3rd world countries, that most need the benefit of cheap Internet access to improve their economic condition.
hmm.. while I do advocate more widespread access to t'internet, I think that most third world countries have alot more they need to improve their economic situation, more equitable IP laws for example.
Well, that's my $0.0047
thats, what, R30 these days?
dave
hello twy
:)
I agree with some of your points, I'm not sure that this is the way forward, spam is an evil perhaps but I've not seen a proposed solution to deal with it that I am happy with. I certainly get my fair share of spam which I tag at the server and filter into a special spam folder in my imap mailstore. this is the best solution I've come up with so far for myself and it works pretty well.
the big problem I have with most of the proposed solutions is that it destroys the open and free ethos of the internet, the ability to send email to anhyone, perhaps anonymously is a good thing I think, sure it's abused and there is a certain amount of locking down that we all do, not being an open relay or using dns blacklists for example, but in general we accept mail from anyone using well defined standard allowing the interconnection of any mua/mta/OS to any other.
I don't like segmenting the net into distinct chunks that cannot communicate, ie smtp vs amtp vs internet mail 2000 etc. it's like the IM networks which, imho, really ought to be able to all intercommunicate but can't.
yes, spam is an abuse of the system, but I find most of the cures worse than the disease. maybe my spam problem isn't as bad as some (around 30-40 emails a day reach my spam box and a small few a week make it to my inbox) and while I'd like to get less spam, I'd rather peer through my spam folder once every day/few days to scan for false positives, than have a good chunk of the net completely unable to talk to me should they want/have a need to.
im2k is an interesting idea but it's not short of problems itself. I want my emails to be waiting for me in my local mailbox, not have to chweck my mail, click allow on 18 mails, deny on 32 and then "download" and wait for the 3 meg avi attachment from a friend on dialup (and would he have to be online at the time? or would we have im2k smarthosts?).
also the idea of "pay per email" systems I disagree with too, maybe I'm a tight git, but why should I pay to send email, I've already paid for my bandwidth to (mostly) freely access the net and hosts on it, and what about mailing lists I run a few low bandwidth mailling lists which would mean that other people (the ppl on my lists) would be costing me (the list owner and mailserver admin) money.
while I like the idea of more of our email being encrypted (my server supports tls, with my own self signed cert) I certainly don't want to restrict my incoming email to only those that come in one TLS links, a) hardly anyone uses it, more the pity and b) I get spam via tls too. I don't really feel like going out and buying a proper cert and this stuff isn't a commercial venture, it's for me and some friends.
the other thing is that just because I don't like spam, doesn;t mean that others don't actively want it. it's the same reason that I disgree with those who say that ISP's ought to firewall ports 135-139 etc to stop ppl using windows networking over the internet, after all, it's only supposed to be a lan only protocol. well, perhaps it is, but that doesn't stop some people wanting to share a directory over the net, and why shouldn't they, if it hurts no-one else?
I don't like disrupting the supposedly free end to end connectivity that we supposedly have.
dave
PS. okay, okay, so I was rambling there
thanks, it is nice having your own mailserver to allow you to customise all this stuff yorself.
:). don't know about exchange and groupwise but I think that most MTA's can support TLS, they just need someone who's heard of it to set it up.
:)
often the functionality is there, it just needs configuring. after all, you do have to tell it what certificates to use (or to generate some if the software offers that option).
I know that notes supports TLS. this needs checking but I beleive that some versions advertise TLS out of the box but then fall over as they have no cert's configured
some mta's (like exim, my mta of choice) will use TLS when sending mail if the other mailserver offers it, even if they don't have it configured themselves.
mind you, I think that some mta's have issues pipelining multiple messages over a tls connection. I think that exim needs to teardown and restart a connection per message to the same host, if it's working over TLS. not that it's a big issue, as no other bugger seems to support it
mind you, I noticed that the samaritans mailserver supports TLS in both directions, that was nice to see.
dave
we can do that now. SMTP supports TLS (transport layer security) for encrypted mail transfer and you can either use bought cert's, or self signed ones. and you can config your email server to only accept properly signed cert's if you like. the problem is that a) hardly anyone uses SMTP over TLS and b) I've actually received spam via TLS before too.
my server is configured with a self signed cert to advertise TLS and use it where possible, but to also allow normal SMTP too so that I can actually get most of my mail. I use spamassassin to filter the spam itself into a spam folder that I check once a day and clear.
dave
I can't speak for the other mta's, but with exim, no it won't. it emulates most of sendmail's flags and on freebsd, where sendmail is a mailwrapper, it ends up calling the exim binary to send the mail and all is well.
dave
The virus checker should verify if the virus spoofs from addresses.
which it does by...? the thing is, how do you detect if the address is spoofed atm? the proposed RMX standard might help if everybody implemented it but will they?
dave
Check the relay domains in the message headers.
If they don't match the 'From:' domain, don't bother with the autoresponder.
woah, thats not a good solution. you're assuming that each mailserver only serves 1 domain and that it's in that domain. my mailserver (as in, belongs to me) is responsible for about 4 domains yet is only in 1. my personal vanity domain goes through that server but if you look through the headers, the only mention of my vanity domain is in the frmo field as thats who the mail came from.
I'd be seriosuly worried about losing mail if I did the same as you do.
dave
actually, I think you can. this isn't like firing someone becuase of their race/religion etc. think about private clubs. if a club wants to be women only, afaik it can be. as long as it's a private club then I think you can mostly set any rules you like.
dave
a law which is not enforced by itself is useful when the authorities catch them for something else
ooh, no, an unenforced law is a very dangerous thing imho. in general, if a law is unenforced then everyone will feel like they can do it, which leads lots of people to do it with no social stigma, and then the police can crack down on those ppl they don't like who are breaking the law and leave the others.
if everyone breaks a law routinely, why is it there? (this could be applied to filesharing too)
yes, it can be useful in some cases perhaps, but much moe dangerous in others I'd say. afaik in many countries, including the UK, if a law hasn;t been used in a certani period of time, then if anyone is taken to court over it then first the law must pass muster for being on the books in the first place.
dave
My name is Jeremy and I have an I.Q. of 6,000; the same I.Q. as 6,000 P.E. teachers!
This line is better known as
"I am Holly, the ship's computer, with an IQ of 6000, the same IQ as 6000 PE teachers"
from Red Dwarf
dave
exim by default does try and validate the mailserver the mail claims to come from, to the extent of checking to see if the from domain has mx records. it can also be configured to "callout" to verify domains, if when it recieves an email it makes an smtp connection to the primary mx for the sending domain and see's if it would accept an email for that user. thats pretty expensive though and hardly anyone turns it on.
dave
yeah, the general consensus is that usb isn;t the best idea, and as it happens I have a single 2.5" bus powered firewire disk, not usb. (which freebsd doesn't work correctly with, which is annoying :)
I hadn;t realised that usb had such a bad rep but firewire is just as good, although the controllers might be a tad more expensive. only thing is that atm I really can't afford to play around like that atm, I've just had a lappie pinched so
one day perhaps, mind you, the other guy seems to be doing the idea well enough.
dave
thank you :) yay, a positive reply. well done, your project looks quite interesting. you've gone to alot more effort than I have. I've just thought about this a bit and lamented it's none existence, you've actually done something.
:)
like many people, I used to have a harddisk in one of those removeable caddies for taking stuff to friends, usually pirated software, back when I was into that sort of thing. the problem with that was that it was big, clunky, not hot swappable and different caddy manufacturers all had their own connectors, well, quite a few used the big 'ole centronics ones, but they all put it at a slightly different offset etc
when I discovered usb and firewire hd's I thought it was a great innovation. everyone has the same connectors on their mobo and you could just take a drive around, plug it in and use it. problem being of course that you had to power the drives seperately which was clunky, and they were always external which made things untidy. I always though it was a shame that no-one ever made an internal caddy for usb or firewire drives. as I said in previous posts, a 2.5" hd can be bus powered by either bus format and it would be very neat. the thing in the machine could line the caddy up, as you push it in, with the plug at the back and as you push it in, the plug makes contact with the socket and bob's your uncle. and it's hot swappable by design.
if the caddies look good then it could be a zip disk replacement, esp as the other person doesn;t need a matching caddy, they can just use the normal cable.
after that I thought that it could be a great way to do cheap ide disk raid or even JBOD. if the disks were marked then it wouldn't matter what order they were put in and you could do with them what you like. after all, some machines can even boot off firewire.
dave
then just use a connector with more conductors and route data and power over that
:)
I was, it was called usb or firewire
I was thinking that it would be based on standards, that way it's cheaper and more likely to be accepted.
I've not got any plans on making this myself, I don't going to start carving bits of plastic out to make caddies etc. just putting an idea out there, if everyon hates it, oh well, I'll live. I still think it has some merit though.
dave
1) I mean usb interfaced ide drives, not usb keys. :)
:)
2) see 1
3) fibre channel is getting way too expensive, this is all about being on the cheap
4) see 1
5) see 1
6) yeah, I've worked in a datacentre, I know. this is not about being for enterprise storage and such but just a cheapie method for home use. people buy usb and firewire drives after all, this is expanding on that a little
7) for business use I agree with you, for home use I would say that it is acceptable depending on the situation
8)
people seem to think I'm on crack with this idea (re the first reply to my comment) without really listening to what my idea is. okay, it's not one of my best ideas but I do think that it has some merit, even if someone only created a 3.5" bay that took a single usb/firewire HD in a caddy. it could be pretty cheap and makes for easy hot-swappable storage. also if whoever you take it to doesn't have the matching caddy then they can just hook up with a normal usb cable/firewire cable depending on what tech you decide on.
come on, ppl, I've got +5 interesting on this, someone give me a positive reply please
dave
dave
well, the creatures are microbes, not insects or worms. and they live deep underwater next to active volcano's where pressure plays a part too. so yes, I imagine it is 130C
dave