I'm reading it right now, which is why it came to mind. been trying to finish the book for well over a decade. I've started afresh for the 6th time or so:) this time I will finish it, I promise!:)
Are you in any way equating the creation of most software which is just nuts and bolts stuff with the lifelong charitable works of Mother Theresa?
no, I'm not. I'm comparing them, not equating them. both caring for the sick and writing software for free are both ways of helping others and giving back to the community.
in a sense, everyone gets something back for whatever action they do, mother teresa selfishly helped the poor just to kake herself feel good (one might argue).
a free software programmer gives his software for many reasons. he may like to think that thousands of people might be using his software (that would make me feel good). perhaps it's part of his CV? if you were hiring a coder and one of them had written a program you use regularly and often, that might be a very good reason to hire them over the others.
perhaps the prorammer has used an awful lot of software given away by others (I venture that most of us here have) and feels that he wants to "pay" for it by giving back code to the community?
maybe the software he's coding has no realistic value but is useful. no-one is going to pay hard cash for your updated version of ls. but the community might find those changes useful.
many reasons exist that all have "worth" and that worth may or may not be measused on cash value but to insist that any work you do ought to be for money is I think short sighted, cold hearted and shows a distinct lack of understanding of the human personality.
I hope I'm not alone in thinking thats a very sad state of affairs. I'm not saying that coding for money is a bad thing. it's good to be able to afford to put food on the table, feed your family, hell, even buy toys. however why can we not also do things for the good of mankind?
I don't recall mother teresa making a big buck out of her ceaseless efforts (unless I've missed her unofficial biography). okay, so she was supported by others but her unselfish acts had a big impact on many people.
many great artworks and musical works were done for free.
jees, come on guys. does our every act have to be for money? there are other things in life.
not suer I agree with you. why can science not be art also? science is not as exact as it seems. if you look at the work of artists such as escher. many of their famous artworks are based firmly on mathematical principles (ie strange loops, isomorphism, recursion etc).
Sendmail is the only existing MTA that can do hacks like SPF with just changes to the config file.
I'm not sure about that, exim has a dnsdb database type that it can apply lookups too so one ought to be able to get an SPF lookup in pure exim config.
the standard exim SPF config does use the perl daemon (that comes with SPF) for ease of coding though.
while I'm sure there are things that endmail can do which other mta's can't, how many of those things are required? while i can't speak for postfix or qmail, I know exim has an almost silly amount of configurability in it. I'm sure it can't do anything, but with a bit of thinking, I'm sure that you could solve most problems with it.
but as some insightful person said earlier. it's not about sendmail vs postfix vs exim vs qmail. it's about those vs exchange etc:)
dave
PS. I know that sendmail works, and can work very well, I just never cared to learn it
But really, who listens to that many songs in their rotation?
it's not about listening to that many songs at once, but having the ability when on the road to change your mind about what you want to listen to and not to have to decide up front that today is "acid jazz" day:)
there is, I'm sure, a famous recording of a classical peice recorded in one of the big london concert halls and if you've got good listening kit, in the quieted patches, you can hear the low frequency noises from tube trains on the nearby london underground.
I'd love to find you a link but I'm not quite sure what to search for while not gettig hits on the latest frech urbans hits from the london underground scene etc:)
thats a bit of an unfair comparison. wires are cheap, very cheap, it's just that most places mark up wires to a huge amount to try and make up for the cheap pc's they sell. as as for radio chips, they might even be cheaper than that, but not to you, to someone buying 5000 of the damn things.
actually, I think that the adoption of bluetooth has been pretty quick and fairly widespread. I'm in the UK and a large percentage of mobile phones come with bluetooth already and most of the ones due out soon include it. most of the current crop of pda's either have bluetooth on board or can be upgraded via a card to support it. you can buy countless BT headsets and hands free kits for your car and many laptops have it onboard.
thats pretty much bluetooth's market sewn up. while it's true that most desktop's don't come with BT as standard, some do and it's only a 17 usb dongle away. I got a dlink BT dongle for my mac and it works like a charm to speak to my siemens mobile phone, I just wish the prices of BT memory sticks for my clie weren't so outrageous.
sure it's not overly fast but it is easy and convenient and works. I thought it was doing pretty well.
dave
PS. saying that, has anyone else seen a bit of incompartibility between apple's bluetooth stack and a siemens mobile phone? I can sync over BT fine but sending txt's via it is problematical. it says everything is fine but alot of the time the txt's don't get sent. anyone else?
I'd say he's got the bandwidth to do it a number of times simultaneously.
his bottleneck will be either end I imagine.
"right, now these 20 machines here are all taking a HD video stream off the sevrer over there which has 3GE cards teamed together for speed and all the HD video stored in memory..."
not at all. DNS == Domain Name Service ie a server generally contactable on port 53/udp somewhere that you query for info. a hosts file is a text file on your system (you knew this of course). now admittedly both are accessed by the resolver libraries but they also access NIS as well can't it, and other information services if correctly complied to do so.
I'd say you're not using DNS until you send a DNS query packet. it's like you're not using dns if you log into a DNS server and read the zone files by hand.
yes I have, thats irrelevant to if someone decides not to use DNS. they can always define the name in their hosts file, access the site correctly and still not use DNS.
well, afaik the free/ad supported browser (and the pay for one too really) are the window dressing. it's what gives them some name recognition. I thought that alot of their income comes from selling the embedded version of opera to other companies to include in their products, like celphones, pda, etc.
welll, if you're a regular slashdot reader, I'm sure you've now seen the news that the latest ichat beta (will panther users have to pay for it when it becomes production I wonder?) can video conference with the latest aim client for windows.
good news for all I think... now I just need my best friend to get a webcam for his windows box... and err.. dsl or cable internet:)
Video conferencing on a Mac means iChat AV (which is not free either), which also means that you can only chat with people on iChat AV
well, steady on there chap. ichat AV is free if you're using panther, and only $30 I beleive if you're still on jag. and if they were using $15000 dollar video conferencing systems, then they could easily have bought some isights and even extra powerbooks.
and by the looks of it they had quite a few mac's about anyways so I'd say it's reasonable to assume that they had them at all principle locations.
if you're working within a small group like that then I'd say it's perfectly acceptable to use something like ichat AV for video conferencing.
but there is no basis to hype video conferencing on Macs, because currently it just does not exist and having iSights would have made no fucking difference
I don't understand this. while I don't have an isight (I would love one but no-one else I'd wanna video conf with has one) by all accounts they work very well. sure they don;t video conf to a windows bux, but then they aren't advertised as being able to. atm it's a pure mac to mac solution and from what I've heard. it works very well at that so your comments seem very harsh unless you have more to back them up with.
so it seems to me that mac video conferencing *does* exist. I don;t see where your comments are coming from.
I would love to see mac to windows video conferencing I have to admit. apparently aol's beta video stuff doesn't interact with apple's (I can't imagine why, it's an obvious one to work with, both are "official" clients after all).
hmm.. istr that what i said is true, but right now I can't find rteference to it online. I originally found it when I was in the library reading books abut copyright law, but it was a couple of years ago and my notes are in a notead elsewhere.
not much help I know but if it's important to you, central libraries have lots of useful books about this kinda thing:)
If you program software on your work computer during work time, it is owned by the company, not you
I believe by UK law that is not the case. software programmed by you that has no relevance to your job whatsoever is still owned by you. Interestingly, you can also claim ownership of program code in your field of work if you come up with an innovation in that field that you would not be expected to produce, ie coming up with a brand new ultra high speed sorting algorithm while doing some low level grunt programming.
how much of that data is dynamic. as the GP stated, it only stores the changes so if most of that 150G is yuor mp3 and downloaded video collection then it's not likely to change too much and a weeks worth of snapshots won';t take up much room at all.
if you're a video editor and are regularly copying across 10's of gigs of new video files. then those snapshots will waste the rest of your disk very quickly.
snapshots are in freebsd 5 so it would be nice to see them in osx. I also want apple to implement a mount_sftp or mount_ssh command too
A better use of your frustration against "the world as it is" would be to expend effort into making "the world as it should be".
I try, I have my plans which are proceeding slowly on that front, but it is something that I do think about often. I want to live in a country that upholds my ideals and that I would be proud of. alas I think the only way for that to happen is to start my own country:(
not easy in this day and age but it's still on my todo list. I really need to find some big money sponsors who I can talk to I think.
how does that work. as extremities, the temperature of y0ur hands varies wildly depending on conditions. if you've walked into work on a cold winters day without gloves on then yours hands will be very cold, colder than a hand that had been cut off and left in a luke warm office for a while (and less smelly too).
and I would hope it would work off more than just heat anywas, that can be faked. perhaps it might record the pattern of heat which would be much harder
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altivec on th g5 can handle double floats, you're thinking of the g4
dave
I'm reading it right now, which is why it came to mind. been trying to finish the book for well over a decade. I've started afresh for the 6th time or so :) this time I will finish it, I promise! :)
dave
Are you in any way equating the creation of most software which is just nuts and bolts stuff with the lifelong charitable works of Mother Theresa?
no, I'm not. I'm comparing them, not equating them. both caring for the sick and writing software for free are both ways of helping others and giving back to the community.
in a sense, everyone gets something back for whatever action they do, mother teresa selfishly helped the poor just to kake herself feel good (one might argue).
a free software programmer gives his software for many reasons. he may like to think that thousands of people might be using his software (that would make me feel good). perhaps it's part of his CV? if you were hiring a coder and one of them had written a program you use regularly and often, that might be a very good reason to hire them over the others.
perhaps the prorammer has used an awful lot of software given away by others (I venture that most of us here have) and feels that he wants to "pay" for it by giving back code to the community?
maybe the software he's coding has no realistic value but is useful. no-one is going to pay hard cash for your updated version of ls. but the community might find those changes useful.
many reasons exist that all have "worth" and that worth may or may not be measused on cash value but to insist that any work you do ought to be for money is I think short sighted, cold hearted and shows a distinct lack of understanding of the human personality.
we don't all have to be hard nosed capitalists.
dave
Do you have a better idea? I cannot think of one
I hope I'm not alone in thinking thats a very sad state of affairs. I'm not saying that coding for money is a bad thing. it's good to be able to afford to put food on the table, feed your family, hell, even buy toys. however why can we not also do things for the good of mankind?
I don't recall mother teresa making a big buck out of her ceaseless efforts (unless I've missed her unofficial biography). okay, so she was supported by others but her unselfish acts had a big impact on many people.
many great artworks and musical works were done for free.
jees, come on guys. does our every act have to be for money? there are other things in life.
dave
How much is that worth? Nothing?
why is worth always measured in money?
not suer I agree with you. why can science not be art also? science is not as exact as it seems. if you look at the work of artists such as escher. many of their famous artworks are based firmly on mathematical principles (ie strange loops, isomorphism, recursion etc).
dave
Mitnick, Escher and Lamo: an Eternally Twisted Pair.
just the first though that came to me with the description of the book...
err, aren't all the commercial unixes like that? :)
dave
Sendmail is the only existing MTA that can do hacks like SPF with just changes to the config file.
:)
I'm not sure about that, exim has a dnsdb database type that it can apply lookups too so one ought to be able to get an SPF lookup in pure exim config.
the standard exim SPF config does use the perl daemon (that comes with SPF) for ease of coding though.
while I'm sure there are things that endmail can do which other mta's can't, how many of those things are required? while i can't speak for postfix or qmail, I know exim has an almost silly amount of configurability in it. I'm sure it can't do anything, but with a bit of thinking, I'm sure that you could solve most problems with it.
but as some insightful person said earlier. it's not about sendmail vs postfix vs exim vs qmail. it's about those vs exchange etc
dave
PS. I know that sendmail works, and can work very well, I just never cared to learn it
But really, who listens to that many songs in their rotation?
:)
it's not about listening to that many songs at once, but having the ability when on the road to change your mind about what you want to listen to and not to have to decide up front that today is "acid jazz" day
dave
there is, I'm sure, a famous recording of a classical peice recorded in one of the big london concert halls and if you've got good listening kit, in the quieted patches, you can hear the low frequency noises from tube trains on the nearby london underground.
:)
I'd love to find you a link but I'm not quite sure what to search for while not gettig hits on the latest frech urbans hits from the london underground scene etc
dave
thats a bit of an unfair comparison. wires are cheap, very cheap, it's just that most places mark up wires to a huge amount to try and make up for the cheap pc's they sell. as as for radio chips, they might even be cheaper than that, but not to you, to someone buying 5000 of the damn things.
dave
actually, I think that the adoption of bluetooth has been pretty quick and fairly widespread. I'm in the UK and a large percentage of mobile phones come with bluetooth already and most of the ones due out soon include it. most of the current crop of pda's either have bluetooth on board or can be upgraded via a card to support it. you can buy countless BT headsets and hands free kits for your car and many laptops have it onboard.
thats pretty much bluetooth's market sewn up. while it's true that most desktop's don't come with BT as standard, some do and it's only a 17 usb dongle away. I got a dlink BT dongle for my mac and it works like a charm to speak to my siemens mobile phone, I just wish the prices of BT memory sticks for my clie weren't so outrageous.
sure it's not overly fast but it is easy and convenient and works. I thought it was doing pretty well.
dave
PS. saying that, has anyone else seen a bit of incompartibility between apple's bluetooth stack and a siemens mobile phone? I can sync over BT fine but sending txt's via it is problematical. it says everything is fine but alot of the time the txt's don't get sent. anyone else?
I'd say he's got the bandwidth to do it a number of times simultaneously.
his bottleneck will be either end I imagine.
"right, now these 20 machines here are all taking a HD video stream off the sevrer over there which has 3GE cards teamed together for speed and all the HD video stored in memory..."
dave
not at all. DNS == Domain Name Service ie a server generally contactable on port 53/udp somewhere that you query for info. a hosts file is a text file on your system (you knew this of course). now admittedly both are accessed by the resolver libraries but they also access NIS as well can't it, and other information services if correctly complied to do so.
I'd say you're not using DNS until you send a DNS query packet. it's like you're not using dns if you log into a DNS server and read the zone files by hand.
or am I wrong?
dave
yes I have, thats irrelevant to if someone decides not to use DNS. they can always define the name in their hosts file, access the site correctly and still not use DNS.
dave
well, afaik the free/ad supported browser (and the pay for one too really) are the window dressing. it's what gives them some name recognition. I thought that alot of their income comes from selling the embedded version of opera to other companies to include in their products, like celphones, pda, etc.
dave
welll, if you're a regular slashdot reader, I'm sure you've now seen the news that the latest ichat beta (will panther users have to pay for it when it becomes production I wonder?) can video conference with the latest aim client for windows.
:)
good news for all I think... now I just need my best friend to get a webcam for his windows box... and err.. dsl or cable internet
dave
Video conferencing on a Mac means iChat AV (which is not free either), which also means that you can only chat with people on iChat AV
well, steady on there chap. ichat AV is free if you're using panther, and only $30 I beleive if you're still on jag. and if they were using $15000 dollar video conferencing systems, then they could easily have bought some isights and even extra powerbooks.
and by the looks of it they had quite a few mac's about anyways so I'd say it's reasonable to assume that they had them at all principle locations.
if you're working within a small group like that then I'd say it's perfectly acceptable to use something like ichat AV for video conferencing.
but there is no basis to hype video conferencing on Macs, because currently it just does not exist and having iSights would have made no fucking difference
I don't understand this. while I don't have an isight (I would love one but no-one else I'd wanna video conf with has one) by all accounts they work very well. sure they don;t video conf to a windows bux, but then they aren't advertised as being able to. atm it's a pure mac to mac solution and from what I've heard. it works very well at that so your comments seem very harsh unless you have more to back them up with.
so it seems to me that mac video conferencing *does* exist. I don;t see where your comments are coming from.
I would love to see mac to windows video conferencing I have to admit. apparently aol's beta video stuff doesn't interact with apple's (I can't imagine why, it's an obvious one to work with, both are "official" clients after all).
dave
hmm.. istr that what i said is true, but right now I can't find rteference to it online. I originally found it when I was in the library reading books abut copyright law, but it was a couple of years ago and my notes are in a notead elsewhere.
:)
not much help I know but if it's important to you, central libraries have lots of useful books about this kinda thing
dave
If you program software on your work computer during work time, it is owned by the company, not you
I believe by UK law that is not the case. software programmed by you that has no relevance to your job whatsoever is still owned by you. Interestingly, you can also claim ownership of program code in your field of work if you come up with an innovation in that field that you would not be expected to produce, ie coming up with a brand new ultra high speed sorting algorithm while doing some low level grunt programming.
dave
how much of that data is dynamic. as the GP stated, it only stores the changes so if most of that 150G is yuor mp3 and downloaded video collection then it's not likely to change too much and a weeks worth of snapshots won';t take up much room at all.
if you're a video editor and are regularly copying across 10's of gigs of new video files. then those snapshots will waste the rest of your disk very quickly.
snapshots are in freebsd 5 so it would be nice to see them in osx. I also want apple to implement a mount_sftp or mount_ssh command too
dave
A better use of your frustration against "the world as it is" would be to expend effort into making "the world as it should be".
:(
I try, I have my plans which are proceeding slowly on that front, but it is something that I do think about often. I want to live in a country that upholds my ideals and that I would be proud of. alas I think the only way for that to happen is to start my own country
not easy in this day and age but it's still on my todo list. I really need to find some big money sponsors who I can talk to I think.
dave
so he put soft at the end. and? what about ubisoft? macsoft? etc.
putting soft at the end doesn't mean anything. yes, it was a minor parody of microsoft but so what?
they need to get a clue, no-one would be confused, they're just being far too paranoid IMHO.
dave
how does that work. as extremities, the temperature of y0ur hands varies wildly depending on conditions. if you've walked into work on a cold winters day without gloves on then yours hands will be very cold, colder than a hand that had been cut off and left in a luke warm office for a while (and less smelly too).
and I would hope it would work off more than just heat anywas, that can be faked. perhaps it might record the pattern of heat which would be much harder
dave