My first computer class was at a county 'adult education' campus. It was in 1978 or '79, and I was 7 or 8 years old. My next one was in the fourth grade with Apple ][e computers.
And that was out in farm area. I'm sure people with more metropolitan lineage had access to more than that at that age.
And by 1987, many people had Commodore or Tandy computers, even Atari made one.
2 stupid 4 McKinsey too talentless for television not good enough at Hedge Fund managing
"Clinton rattled off a series of discouraging numbers that relate to tech education. The share of female computer-science grads has declined during the last decade, from 21 percent in 2001 to as low as 16 percent, a trend she finds “deeply challenging.”"
quoting the wrong stats because you did not do your research the dispacable spawn of Hillary "Insider trading corrupt as fuck" Clinton and William "I rape wimmin and feminsts approve" Clinton is a warning about the failed drunkard secretary of states presidential ambitions.
Because Ex-pres. of USA (and their families) have very big impact on the public....
Only recently. Most ex-presidents simply faded into the shadows. As for their families, how much national attention are the Bush twins receiving? Or Reagan's or Carter's adult children?
I wouldn't be. I only saw two episodes, and both were bad in a ridiculous way. I can't even see a still-shot from that series and think it was serious Star Trek.
FYI: I grew up in the 1970s, watching reruns of the original Star Trek. All the newer series seem lesser to me.
Yes, but you will be a significant fraction of a light year away from Earth at the end of the trip. Traveling at a significant fraction of the speed of light away from Earth. I don't see the upside here.
An Argentinian chef is more likely to make great sushi than a Japanese automotive engineer.
Not an analogy. A statement of fact, with some supposition. It is possible Japanese auto engineers are all required to be master sushi artists, but unlikely. Still not analogy.
Most analogies are statements of fact... that is the whole point, to translate a problem that is complex or obscure into a situation more familiar or approachable, resulting in an analogous statement of fact that illustrates something in the original problem. It might not be the greatest analogy, and others might make arguments that it fails to connect to the original problem or that it isn't even correct in the analogous case, but that doesn't change that it is an analogy.
Yes, you are correct in all this. But that isn't what the OP did, it is what the story submitter did. Theodp wrote this analogy.
An Argentinian chef, say, who wants to make Japanese sushi may get all the ingredients right, but likely it just won't work out quite the same. Similarly, a Pythonista could certainly cook up some code for some statistical procedure by reading a statistics book, but it wouldn't be quite same.
The OP Florian Weimer replied that the analogy was flawed, and gave a reason why. I don't see his response as an analogy in itself.
When discussing networking and difference between latency and bandwidth, someone inevitably says. "But a semi-truck carries freight a lot faster than a race car." It is a statement of fact, but clearly meant to be an analogy. Unless you think people like to drop random, irrelevant statements of facts as part of a reasonable argument.
Again, this is basically what the summary did. Florian Weimer simply responded to it.
Maybe I'm wrong on whether the post was just a response to an analogy, or a furtherance of the analogy. It seems to me though that Florian would have had to re-write the original analogy, incorporating his version, for his line to be an analogy itself.
Anyhow, thanks for taking the time to discuss this.
No, I worked in actual restaurants, with menus and tablecloths and everything. The real "doesn't count" part is that generally I was a dishwaher or busboy, and only did the prep-cook work as it was needed. But I didn't want to confuse the issue at the expense of a fun post.
An Argentinian chef is more likely to make great sushi than a Japanese automotive engineer.
You generally want to use programming languages designed by experienced programmers (even better, experienced language designers) who work closely with subject matter experts. Left to their own devices, experts are likely to get a lot of things wrong, and if the language is sufficiently popular, you are stuck with their mistakes for a long time to come.
Upon rereading it, I still don't see an analogy. So let's break it down and verify.
An Argentinian chef is more likely to make great sushi than a Japanese automotive engineer.
Not an analogy. A statement of fact, with some supposition. It is possible Japanese auto engineers are all required to be master sushi artists, but unlikely. Still not analogy.
You generally want to use programming languages designed by experienced programmers
Again, not an analogy. A statement of personal opinion, which may or may not be factually accurate.
(even better, experienced language designers)
More personal opinion. But it certainly makes sense.
who work closely with subject matter experts.
Conclusion of personal opinion. Still not an analogy.
Left to their own devices, experts are likely to get a lot of things wrong,
Again, supposition used to bolster an argument that supports WF's opinion mentioned previously. Still not an analogy.
and if the language is sufficiently popular, you are stuck with their mistakes for a long time to come.
A final statement of fact. It does assume that mistakes are great enough they can't be fixed in a simple revision, but not so severe that they render the programming language unusable. That is still not an analogy.
But sober this time. Put the cherry schnapps back in mom's liquor cabinet.
I haven't touched your mother's liquor in several months. Besides, she prefers rum when we do body shots.
PS: Isn't the 2nd amendment's sole purpose to prevent your government from acting against the people? Can you tell me what the f* you're waiting for?
2017.
No one wants to martyr the first black president.
After he leaves office, if the next guy doesn't actually reduce the entire federal government, we won't last a decade without a new American civil war.
Considering Florian Weimer didn't make an analogy in his post, your post is what happens when a/. geek tries to make an argument based on his own skills in reading comprehension.
He has more room to run away from the mobs of angry geeks. Unless he actually go into the subterranean lairs, aka their mothers' basements, he can avoid most beatdowns.
Other than that, how many people know him on sight? How hard would it be to walk through a crowd without being noticed?
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I doubt they kept any records of porn rentals in the 1950s.
Introduce him to Treesheets. Maybe he'll leave you alone as he tries to figure it out.
Would you be able to make an Excel spreadsheet that can solve a Sudoku puzzle, using the puzzles in the newspaper as the starting grid?
How do you circumcise a whale?
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You send down four skin divers.
My first computer class was at a county 'adult education' campus. It was in 1978 or '79, and I was 7 or 8 years old. My next one was in the fourth grade with Apple ][e computers.
And that was out in farm area. I'm sure people with more metropolitan lineage had access to more than that at that age.
And by 1987, many people had Commodore or Tandy computers, even Atari made one.
Why do we care what she thinks?
Blonde joke.
2 stupid 4 McKinsey too talentless for television not good enough at Hedge Fund managing
"Clinton rattled off a series of discouraging numbers that relate to tech education. The share of female computer-science grads has declined during the last decade, from 21 percent in 2001 to as low as 16 percent, a trend she finds “deeply challenging.”"
quoting the wrong stats because you did not do your research the dispacable spawn of Hillary "Insider trading corrupt as fuck" Clinton and William "I rape wimmin and feminsts approve" Clinton is a warning about the failed drunkard secretary of states presidential ambitions.
[citation needed]
Because Ex-pres. of USA (and their families) have very big impact on the public ....
Only recently. Most ex-presidents simply faded into the shadows. As for their families, how much national attention are the Bush twins receiving? Or Reagan's or Carter's adult children?
lol, TOS. what a joke
If it was produced today, yes. But back in the 1960s, it was groundbreaking in many ways. If you are too immature to realize that, it's not my fault.
I'll watch these, plus the one avgjoe62 listed, and see how they are.
I'm assuming I can find them somewhere online.
I'll watch it and see how I like it.
But whose anus?
I wouldn't be. I only saw two episodes, and both were bad in a ridiculous way. I can't even see a still-shot from that series and think it was serious Star Trek.
FYI: I grew up in the 1970s, watching reruns of the original Star Trek. All the newer series seem lesser to me.
Yes, but you will be a significant fraction of a light year away from Earth at the end of the trip. Traveling at a significant fraction of the speed of light away from Earth. I don't see the upside here.
An Argentinian chef is more likely to make great sushi than a Japanese automotive engineer.
Not an analogy. A statement of fact, with some supposition. It is possible Japanese auto engineers are all required to be master sushi artists, but unlikely. Still not analogy.
Most analogies are statements of fact... that is the whole point, to translate a problem that is complex or obscure into a situation more familiar or approachable, resulting in an analogous statement of fact that illustrates something in the original problem. It might not be the greatest analogy, and others might make arguments that it fails to connect to the original problem or that it isn't even correct in the analogous case, but that doesn't change that it is an analogy.
Yes, you are correct in all this. But that isn't what the OP did, it is what the story submitter did. Theodp wrote this analogy.
An Argentinian chef, say, who wants to make Japanese sushi may get all the ingredients right, but likely it just won't work out quite the same. Similarly, a Pythonista could certainly cook up some code for some statistical procedure by reading a statistics book, but it wouldn't be quite same.
The OP Florian Weimer replied that the analogy was flawed, and gave a reason why. I don't see his response as an analogy in itself.
When discussing networking and difference between latency and bandwidth, someone inevitably says. "But a semi-truck carries freight a lot faster than a race car." It is a statement of fact, but clearly meant to be an analogy. Unless you think people like to drop random, irrelevant statements of facts as part of a reasonable argument.
Again, this is basically what the summary did. Florian Weimer simply responded to it.
Maybe I'm wrong on whether the post was just a response to an analogy, or a furtherance of the analogy. It seems to me though that Florian would have had to re-write the original analogy, incorporating his version, for his line to be an analogy itself.
Anyhow, thanks for taking the time to discuss this.
I won't dispute that, but I still know what an analogy is.
D'oh!
I forgot to check that. "Just remember that 'dessert' has two s's because you want to have two servings."
Thanks for catching that. :^)
No, I worked in actual restaurants, with menus and tablecloths and everything. The real "doesn't count" part is that generally I was a dishwaher or busboy, and only did the prep-cook work as it was needed. But I didn't want to confuse the issue at the expense of a fun post.
Yeah? Go back and read it again.
OK. FW said:
An Argentinian chef is more likely to make great sushi than a Japanese automotive engineer.
You generally want to use programming languages designed by experienced programmers (even better, experienced language designers) who work closely with subject matter experts. Left to their own devices, experts are likely to get a lot of things wrong, and if the language is sufficiently popular, you are stuck with their mistakes for a long time to come.
Upon rereading it, I still don't see an analogy. So let's break it down and verify.
An Argentinian chef is more likely to make great sushi than a Japanese automotive engineer.
Not an analogy. A statement of fact, with some supposition. It is possible Japanese auto engineers are all required to be master sushi artists, but unlikely. Still not analogy.
You generally want to use programming languages designed by experienced programmers
Again, not an analogy. A statement of personal opinion, which may or may not be factually accurate.
(even better, experienced language designers)
More personal opinion. But it certainly makes sense.
who work closely with subject matter experts.
Conclusion of personal opinion.
Still not an analogy.
Left to their own devices, experts are likely to get a lot of things wrong,
Again, supposition used to bolster an argument that supports WF's opinion mentioned previously.
Still not an analogy.
and if the language is sufficiently popular, you are stuck with their mistakes for a long time to come.
A final statement of fact. It does assume that mistakes are great enough they can't be fixed in a simple revision, but not so severe that they render the programming language unusable.
That is still not an analogy.
But sober this time. Put the cherry schnapps back in mom's liquor cabinet.
I haven't touched your mother's liquor in several months. Besides, she prefers rum when we do body shots.
PS: Isn't the 2nd amendment's sole purpose to prevent your government from acting against the people? Can you tell me what the f* you're waiting for?
2017.
No one wants to martyr the first black president.
After he leaves office, if the next guy doesn't actually reduce the entire federal government, we won't last a decade without a new American civil war.
Apparently, he hit a nerve.
And why would Clinton have banned the Chinese from DefCon? They were helping get Al Gore elected that year.
Considering Florian Weimer didn't make an analogy in his post, your post is what happens when a /. geek tries to make an argument based on his own skills in reading comprehension.
It dices. It chops. It purees. It makes my food taste better, to a not insignificant amount.
Any other claims you want to hear from a chef*?
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*Note: Worked in several restaurants during and after high school. Now I occasionally cook or make deserts at home.
He has more room to run away from the mobs of angry geeks. Unless he actually go into the subterranean lairs, aka their mothers' basements, he can avoid most beatdowns.
Other than that, how many people know him on sight? How hard would it be to walk through a crowd without being noticed?
Well, don't tease us. Post a link to the pics.
That's awesome. The pilot steers by shifting his body weight. It's like a prehistoric version of the segway scooter.