Because the rest of his statement is a valid argument, "don't understand why they can't have their cake and eat it too.", with our without the label he applied to the group, "The poor snowflakes".
You or I can agree or disagree with his argument, whether he called the group "snowflakes", "bot spammers", or "nazi hunters".
The biggest problem (imho) today is that the US has a large population that is being told every day that they have to "stick it to the man".
Yes, the right-wing anti-government militia is certainly a problem!
Does BET have a show called "Hold My Beer" that features your mythical creatures denigrating women and breaking laws? No? Nothing like the rap videos featuring crime and bad behavior?
Or, do your vast right wing militia call someone an "Uncle Sam" for wanting to leave the group to fit into the successful business culture in America? No again?
Do those militia depend on the government for their rent money, and cheat the system to get it?
I'm not sure what your definition of "stick it to the man" is, but you many want to rethink it.
Too bad you forced the FBI to stop reporting on them, because you wanted them to spend billions building a worthless border wall after shutting down their attempt to track down the routes firearms followed in illegal cross-border smuggling.
The FBI has time and money for one investigation at a time? The FBI is building a wall? The FBI can't figure out where the guns Obama sold the drug cartels are because they didn't bother tracking the guns? Well, that part is true at least.
Modern black culture in America is its own worst problem, and many who try to escape it are punished by that same culture for "being white".
That's right, they must be the problem in themselves, that way you don't have to be responsible for doing anything!
How convenient for you. Just wave your hands and scream about their "culture" while closing your eyes.
What do you think I can do, personally, for the blacks living in Chicago's south side? Send them money, set up a GoFundMe page? Take away their guns so they stop killing each other?
It isn't white people killing blacks on the streets every weekend.
Part of the blame can certainly be placed on racism, but that once "whites only" was outlawed, racism is more of a crutch than actual reason for someone being held back.
Wow, you believe once segregation was found to be unlawful, all problems related to it magically disappeared?
Not in the same instant, but at some point in the last fifty fucking years government-endorsed racism stopped being the reason blacks were being held back.
What silliness you believe. Besides, it is still practiced. Don't believe me? Go see how many school systems are still segregated.
,
Schools are segregated because no white person wants to live in neighborhoods where they'll be robbed or killed just for being white. They are not segregated because the poor little black kids aren't allowed in the 'whites only' school.
And, again, the blacks who make the effort to rise out of those high crime neighborhoods, and attend good schools, public or private, are then called Uncle Toms for forgetting their roots. The ones keeping segregation alive aren't white.
For many of the programs that worked in other areas, we have seen them attempted here in the US. They fail within a few years because
You forgot the number one reason: There's a political party that doesn't want them to work,
Finally, you are blaming the Democrats. What a relief.
Or do you really think Republicans want to pay even more welfare to blacks? No, they want them to work. Haven't you ever heard the horrible phrase, "Get a job"?
that wants to deny the effectiveness,
The failure of the programs proves their ineffectiveness. That's my point. The reasons for that failure are listed.
or even the desirability, because that getting in the way of their condemning that very same black cultur
That's why I told your mother to lay off the mexican food on the day before my weekly trip thru her town. All day long people have been asking me if I have shit on my chin, and I just point to your mom and say "Ask her."
Oh please, don't even go there. You live in the same modern world I do. You have given up at least the same 'bodily autonomy' as I have to continue to enjoy that modern world.
Let me explain it this way: I could spend all my money drinking alcohol, either at the bar getting drunk, or buying bottles of whiskey and drinking in the privacy of my own home. I don't do that. Not because the government says I can't, but because I choose not to. Similar to illegal drugs (or legal drugs, or, for that matter, auto-erotic asphyxiation) . I could do it, but I choose not to because I choose not to. Participating in that activity does not give me the return to justify itself.
I agree with your viewpoint. I think we should immediately disband the institution that lets those states have equal representation, at the expense of true democracy. We should fold the House of Representatives and the Senate into one chamber, with the current members each simply having one vote apiece. Of course, the filibuster rule would be abolished too, since that allows the minority population to prevent the majority from having a vote.
Yes comrade, I like this new equal representation you advocate. Please help me in spreading your idea until it is put into effect by this spring.
You miss the point of being agents provocateurs. Sticking to reality while riling their opponents isn't required.
And several* Hillary supporters spent the three months after the election trying to convince themselves and the rest of us that they could do just what the OP claimed. Some might have known it wouldn't work, but the majority certainly seemed like they believed they could force it because of """the Russians""".
*Several, meaning dozens of them on every news or opinion site I visit routinely.
You make several valid points. The biggest rebuttal about them is that the countries you mention are mostly homogenous populations, without the racial history that defined the US. The biggest problem (imho) today is that the US has a large population that is being told every day that they have to "stick it to the man". Modern black culture in America is its own worst problem, and many who try to escape it are punished by that same culture for "being white".
Poor immigrants come in from Asia every year. We don't see the problems in the poor Asian communities that we see in the poor black communities. So it isn't simply a "non-white" problem. It is a cultural problem withing the modern day black community. Part of the blame can certainly be placed on racism, but that once "whites only" was outlawed, racism is more of a crutch than actual reason for someone being held back.
For many of the programs that worked in other areas, we have seen them attempted here in the US. They fail within a few years because 1. It was a political move, and ignored after the election 2. Only a dozen people were successfully helped, out of thousands/millions 3. Blacks actively attacked the blacks that participated 4. Clinics/offices in the neighborhoods served were vandalized or burglarized 5. Corruption, bribes, slush funds, rather than real aid 6. Too many people allow all of the above to happen
Doesn't matter what color I am, I don't use illegal drugs, because it's not worth the risk. Considering the risk is higher if I am black, it would make more sense for me to be black that white.
Selfish? Because I don't put myself in danger of being arrested? Because my mother doesn't worry that she'll have to spend her rent money to bail me out of jail? Because I think differently than you? Yeah, whatever.
Wow, someone learned some new words in school last week. Good job using "prowess" and "negative".
As to your rant, some of us simply don't like being in crowds of people, don't like paying $30 apiece to be in crowds, and are content to stay at home to avoid those crowds, which are usually populated by carbon copies of you.
Role models? Where we have gone, we don't need role models.
Slashdot Mirror
After he is re-elected in 2020, he should personally thank you and your friends for making it possible.
"the social sciences/psychology/psychiatry aren't REAL sciences"
Um Slashdot has always had a hate boner for the softer sciences. You know what XKCD comic this is before you even click, https://xkcd.com/435/
I do know what one it is, and clicking got me nothing.
Because the rest of his statement is a valid argument, "don't understand why they can't have their cake and eat it too.", with our without the label he applied to the group, "The poor snowflakes".
You or I can agree or disagree with his argument, whether he called the group "snowflakes", "bot spammers", or "nazi hunters".
You may want to use a new high school debate team crutch.
Yes, Stalin and Mao strongly agree with your sentiment.
Can we get /. to put alexgieg's comment as a sticky note on every political topic from here on out?
Hey man, you are good.
Go fuck yourself, you damn dirty ape.
The biggest problem (imho) today is that the US has a large population that is being told every day that they have to "stick it to the man".
Yes, the right-wing anti-government militia is certainly a problem!
Does BET have a show called "Hold My Beer" that features your mythical creatures denigrating women and breaking laws? No? Nothing like the rap videos featuring crime and bad behavior?
Or, do your vast right wing militia call someone an "Uncle Sam" for wanting to leave the group to fit into the successful business culture in America? No again?
Do those militia depend on the government for their rent money, and cheat the system to get it?
I'm not sure what your definition of "stick it to the man" is, but you many want to rethink it.
Too bad you forced the FBI to stop reporting on them, because you wanted them to spend billions building a worthless border wall after shutting down their attempt to track down the routes firearms followed in illegal cross-border smuggling.
The FBI has time and money for one investigation at a time? The FBI is building a wall? The FBI can't figure out where the guns Obama sold the drug cartels are because they didn't bother tracking the guns? Well, that part is true at least.
Modern black culture in America is its own worst problem, and many who try to escape it are punished by that same culture for "being white".
That's right, they must be the problem in themselves, that way you don't have to be responsible for doing anything!
How convenient for you. Just wave your hands and scream about their "culture" while closing your eyes.
What do you think I can do, personally, for the blacks living in Chicago's south side? Send them money, set up a GoFundMe page? Take away their guns so they stop killing each other?
It isn't white people killing blacks on the streets every weekend.
Part of the blame can certainly be placed on racism, but that once "whites only" was outlawed, racism is more of a crutch than actual reason for someone being held back.
Wow, you believe once segregation was found to be unlawful, all problems related to it magically disappeared?
Not in the same instant, but at some point in the last fifty fucking years government-endorsed racism stopped being the reason blacks were being held back.
What silliness you believe. Besides, it is still practiced. Don't believe me? Go see how many school systems are still segregated.
,
Schools are segregated because no white person wants to live in neighborhoods where they'll be robbed or killed just for being white. They are not segregated because the poor little black kids aren't allowed in the 'whites only' school.
And, again, the blacks who make the effort to rise out of those high crime neighborhoods, and attend good schools, public or private, are then called Uncle Toms for forgetting their roots. The ones keeping segregation alive aren't white.
For many of the programs that worked in other areas, we have seen them attempted here in the US. They fail within a few years because
You forgot the number one reason: There's a political party that doesn't want them to work,
Finally, you are blaming the Democrats. What a relief.
Or do you really think Republicans want to pay even more welfare to blacks? No, they want them to work. Haven't you ever heard the horrible phrase, "Get a job"?
that wants to deny the effectiveness,
The failure of the programs proves their ineffectiveness. That's my point. The reasons for that failure are listed.
or even the desirability, because that getting in the way of their condemning that very same black cultur
Good to know. :^)
That's why I told your mother to lay off the mexican food on the day before my weekly trip thru her town. All day long people have been asking me if I have shit on my chin, and I just point to your mom and say "Ask her."
Oh please, don't even go there. You live in the same modern world I do. You have given up at least the same 'bodily autonomy' as I have to continue to enjoy that modern world.
Let me explain it this way: I could spend all my money drinking alcohol, either at the bar getting drunk, or buying bottles of whiskey and drinking in the privacy of my own home. I don't do that. Not because the government says I can't, but because I choose not to. Similar to illegal drugs (or legal drugs, or, for that matter, auto-erotic asphyxiation) . I could do it, but I choose not to because I choose not to. Participating in that activity does not give me the return to justify itself.
So you are claiming the people in the south and midwest would be better off if they only had stores that sold more expensive products.
Ten times as many at one fifth the price, eh?
I agree with your viewpoint. I think we should immediately disband the institution that lets those states have equal representation, at the expense of true democracy. We should fold the House of Representatives and the Senate into one chamber, with the current members each simply having one vote apiece. Of course, the filibuster rule would be abolished too, since that allows the minority population to prevent the majority from having a vote.
Yes comrade, I like this new equal representation you advocate. Please help me in spreading your idea until it is put into effect by this spring.
You miss the point of being agents provocateurs. Sticking to reality while riling their opponents isn't required.
And several* Hillary supporters spent the three months after the election trying to convince themselves and the rest of us that they could do just what the OP claimed. Some might have known it wouldn't work, but the majority certainly seemed like they believed they could force it because of """the Russians""".
*Several, meaning dozens of them on every news or opinion site I visit routinely.
One of us is. But there isn't spittle on my chin, so it's not me. Thank you for the clarification of your viewpoint.
You make several valid points. The biggest rebuttal about them is that the countries you mention are mostly homogenous populations, without the racial history that defined the US. The biggest problem (imho) today is that the US has a large population that is being told every day that they have to "stick it to the man". Modern black culture in America is its own worst problem, and many who try to escape it are punished by that same culture for "being white".
Poor immigrants come in from Asia every year. We don't see the problems in the poor Asian communities that we see in the poor black communities. So it isn't simply a "non-white" problem. It is a cultural problem withing the modern day black community. Part of the blame can certainly be placed on racism, but that once "whites only" was outlawed, racism is more of a crutch than actual reason for someone being held back.
For many of the programs that worked in other areas, we have seen them attempted here in the US. They fail within a few years because
1. It was a political move, and ignored after the election
2. Only a dozen people were successfully helped, out of thousands/millions
3. Blacks actively attacked the blacks that participated
4. Clinics/offices in the neighborhoods served were vandalized or burglarized
5. Corruption, bribes, slush funds, rather than real aid
6. Too many people allow all of the above to happen
Quite honestly, that isn't far off of what we have anyway. Maybe removing others' freedom doesn't always do what we expect it to do.
Doesn't matter what color I am, I don't use illegal drugs, because it's not worth the risk. Considering the risk is higher if I am black, it would make more sense for me to be black that white.
Selfish? Because I don't put myself in danger of being arrested? Because my mother doesn't worry that she'll have to spend her rent money to bail me out of jail? Because I think differently than you? Yeah, whatever.
and if they didn't expect to make a profit on those movies, they would have refused to show them. They have that option.
You actually think anyone other than Hillary sycophants gives a shit about the popular vote?
One group of special snowflakes is butthurt, and it's not the team that won.
btw, read my sig once or twice.
Wow, someone learned some new words in school last week. Good job using "prowess" and "negative".
As to your rant, some of us simply don't like being in crowds of people, don't like paying $30 apiece to be in crowds, and are content to stay at home to avoid those crowds, which are usually populated by carbon copies of you.
Role models? Where we have gone, we don't need role models.
Sometimes it's fun to watch a movie with all the other fans:
Not for some people.
A shared experience among strangers.
Yes, that's my point. Some of us don't enjoy that option.
Who rents houses that don't include walls? Like this one?