Re:Curiosity killed the cat
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Great, so now scientists are going to produce supernovae in the laboratory?
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But there's a big difference between tinkering with transistors and unleashing natural forces that Man was never intended to experiment with.
Whee!!! Half-Life!!.. just keep the face-huggers away from me:D
Not a lot methinks.. Still something prone for abuse, probably by Microsoft. I shudder at the customer complaints of 'bad linkage' or problems with the links to other websites (either in content or whatever) that are directed to the webmasters of these sites and yet they never created the links. Joe Schmoe won't understand the technicalities behind it.. as far as he sees, *your* site has these links. You can bet the disable tag won't work.. or will only work from an IIS web server or some such shit.
Control should be that of the publisher of the site. Thanks to the internet, anyone can become a publisher. Most sites have emails for the webmaster to suggest improvements, and linking to things is obviously one of them.
Media is cheap enough these days that a school could buy a smallish but usable drive for about 100 bux and have the rest of the hardware for free.
Probably a larger capacity and faster drive than was in the machine before. 20GB drives for less than $100 are everywhere. Makes you wonder how much it costs in terms of time to use dd by whatever method to remove the data from the original hd.. probably ends up about even.
Both points, story verification and caching of links sound like GREAT ideas and I agree with you wholeheartedly.
I sincerely hope that Slashdot does mature like you say. It's gone way beyond Rob's toy project. Since I didn't have mod points to use, I wanted to mention I agree too.
Maybe policy changes like these can be voted on more formally on Slashdot, so when they come up so the readers can give their input as to the direction Slashdot should mature and grow towards. A more formal 'suggestion box' for these ideas should be implemented too, with the reasonable ones getting put to the vote.
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Re:Of course they didn't check up on the article
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Web Bug Detector
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b) he would have to use IE.
Two things that the Slashdot crew will never do.
Nah, really.. they're all using Windows machines, running IE and absolutely love Bill Gates. They only talk about this Linux thing to throw us off.:>
Yea.. it's possible.. kinda interesting in a way. I have to wonder though at the glee in which he expresses 'wouldn't it be fun knock their table design out of alignment!'..
Um.. I guess so.
Considering he's not actually defacing the web page and his 'wonderful tricks' are visible to JUST HIM.. I wonder what he seeks to get out of it. "Look! I can screw up my browser so webpages look funny!!.. wooo.. I'm l33t!"..
1925 MST: I am dreaming about finding Torvalds and taking a rail gun to him.
And who says playing Quake doesn't lead to violent behaviour;>
Seriously, it's not hard to get Quake running on yer Linux box. Maybe a bit harder for the average schmoe than good old Winders but it'll probably run just as well if not better.
What do you think adding links does to a page? Hmmm?
IT'S CHANGING THE CONTENT AS PERCEIVED BY THE END USER.
It's obvious that Microsoft would use any and all words that correspond to Microsoft products to get people to come to their site.
If you had the text. 'The windows in our office were a bit dirty this morning'.. or some such crap, the words 'office' and 'windows' would be turned into links for Microsoft, even though you were only writing some boring page about your work environment and that's your right as the creator of the page - to decide for yourself when to include links or not. It's that right that's being usurped by Microsoft.
In many ways it's more insidious than someone coming in and hacking your webserver to change your pages, as at least you can tell when that's happened.
Ugh.. you know, I thought of that too as a pitfall. Makes me want to cry thinking about it. Of course you could tell them to fuck off if it's your personal site.. but for companies, imagine trying to convince customers nicely otherwise. It'd be a customer relations nightmare and SO costly in terms of support time. I've had people blame me for not being able to reach a website that I control when it was their own ISP that was screwed. Pathetic really.
Now that sounds better. Put the control in the hands of the users, instead of Microsoft or any other company with possibly confused interests. The problem is, the 'default install' of IE is BOUND to contain Microsofts 'sample links'.. so it'd be right back to brainwashing the masses. Sure, you and I would know about how to modify our own lists or grab lists from good places like/... but the effect would be largely similar if we were just disabling the features and using the web just like we have done for the last 5 years.
Netscape 6 was based off of very OLD Mozilla code, which even at the time of the release of NS6 was slated as needing bugfixes. These were in the wings IIRC but were not added due to some marketroid.
Yes, Netscape has problems but I found that using the the current build of Mozilla today, my pages render better in Netscape 4.7x, then Mozilla and then IE... in that order.
I personally HATE to develop web pages in IE, as they can be broken but you'll never know, as IE 'fills in the gaps'.. a behaviour I can't stand as I WANT to know if the HTML is bad so I can fix it. Sweeping the problem under the carpet doesn't help anyone. People who write broken HTML and then expect luser tools like IE to fix it for viewing are very poor designers/programmers and they give web developers a very bad name.
Finally, imagine that a political body imposes a deadline on imported programs.. that they must support their new standard by such-and-so a date or it won't be permitted within the country. The Chinese did this, extending the deadline to Sept. 2001. I only found out about this yesterday.
The Chinese lately seem to just be trying to piss everyone off as much as possible.
Granted, people whining about prejudice when they don't understand the technical reasons behind it doesn't help at all. It's sad really. These people need to grow up and understand that large changes don't happen immediately, and that if the state of affairs is how it is then it doesn't necessarily mean that anyone is trying to 'oppress' them. Take a fucking pill, people. There's such a bandwagon for being the 'oppressed people' that people who feel begrudged immediately assume this without THINKING.
Well most people's English is better than a lot of the rest of the world's Chinese - in Europe and the USA. I still think all character sets should be supported, but the internet is, as of now, mainly used by English-speaking (as their primary language) nations, and even those who it isn't their primary language (e.g. continental Europe), they are mainly all fluent in English.
You could say 'Well, those lazy-ass Americans/Brits etc. they should go learn another language'.. it's not going to happen though. Spanish is more likely to take over than Chinese at any rate.
I don't actually have the BIOS passwords set on any of the computers I use (I don't have any need to), but I thought they were a bit more well designed than that. Doh.
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Great, so now scientists are going to produce supernovae in the laboratory?
.. just keep the face-huggers away from me :D
...
But there's a big difference between tinkering with transistors and unleashing natural forces that Man was never intended to experiment with.
Whee!!! Half-Life!!
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Delphis
Not a lot methinks.. Still something prone for abuse, probably by Microsoft. I shudder at the customer complaints of 'bad linkage' or problems with the links to other websites (either in content or whatever) that are directed to the webmasters of these sites and yet they never created the links. Joe Schmoe won't understand the technicalities behind it.. as far as he sees, *your* site has these links. You can bet the disable tag won't work .. or will only work from an IIS web server or some such shit.
Control should be that of the publisher of the site. Thanks to the internet, anyone can become a publisher. Most sites have emails for the webmaster to suggest improvements, and linking to things is obviously one of them.
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Delphis
Media is cheap enough these days that a school could buy a smallish but usable drive for about 100 bux and have the rest of the hardware for free.
.. probably ends up about even.
Probably a larger capacity and faster drive than was in the machine before. 20GB drives for less than $100 are everywhere. Makes you wonder how much it costs in terms of time to use dd by whatever method to remove the data from the original hd
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Delphis
Both points, story verification and caching of links sound like GREAT ideas and I agree with you wholeheartedly.
I sincerely hope that Slashdot does mature like you say. It's gone way beyond Rob's toy project. Since I didn't have mod points to use, I wanted to mention I agree too.
Maybe policy changes like these can be voted on more formally on Slashdot, so when they come up so the readers can give their input as to the direction Slashdot should mature and grow towards. A more formal 'suggestion box' for these ideas should be implemented too, with the reasonable ones getting put to the vote.
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Delphis
b) he would have to use IE.
:>
Two things that the Slashdot crew will never do.
Nah, really.. they're all using Windows machines, running IE and absolutely love Bill Gates. They only talk about this Linux thing to throw us off.
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Delphis
Yea.. it's possible.. kinda interesting in a way. I have to wonder though at the glee in which he expresses 'wouldn't it be fun knock their table design out of alignment!' ..
.. I wonder what he seeks to get out of it. "Look! I can screw up my browser so webpages look funny!! .. wooo .. I'm l33t!" ..
Um.. I guess so.
Considering he's not actually defacing the web page and his 'wonderful tricks' are visible to JUST HIM
Hmm.
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Reading the Linux Quake HOWTO is always a good place to start.
http://www.linuxgames.com/quake/
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Delphis
From your article:
;>
1925 MST: I am dreaming about finding Torvalds and taking a rail gun to him.
And who says playing Quake doesn't lead to violent behaviour
Seriously, it's not hard to get Quake running on yer Linux box. Maybe a bit harder for the average schmoe than good old Winders but it'll probably run just as well if not better.
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Microsoft will probably commit suicide within the next few years.
We can but hope.
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What do you think adding links does to a page? Hmmm?
.. or some such crap, the words 'office' and 'windows' would be turned into links for Microsoft, even though you were only writing some boring page about your work environment and that's your right as the creator of the page - to decide for yourself when to include links or not. It's that right that's being usurped by Microsoft.
IT'S CHANGING THE CONTENT AS PERCEIVED BY THE END USER.
It's obvious that Microsoft would use any and all words that correspond to Microsoft products to get people to come to their site.
If you had the text. 'The windows in our office were a bit dirty this morning'
In many ways it's more insidious than someone coming in and hacking your webserver to change your pages, as at least you can tell when that's happened.
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Delphis
what you want a link to every fucking word ? !
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Ugh.. you know, I thought of that too as a pitfall. Makes me want to cry thinking about it. Of course you could tell them to fuck off if it's your personal site.. but for companies, imagine trying to convince customers nicely otherwise. It'd be a customer relations nightmare and SO costly in terms of support time. I've had people blame me for not being able to reach a website that I control when it was their own ISP that was screwed. Pathetic really.
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Delphis
Now that sounds better. Put the control in the hands of the users, instead of Microsoft or any other company with possibly confused interests. The problem is, the 'default install' of IE is BOUND to contain Microsofts 'sample links' .. so it'd be right back to brainwashing the masses. Sure, you and I would know about how to modify our own lists or grab lists from good places like /. .. but the effect would be largely similar if we were just disabling the features and using the web just like we have done for the last 5 years.
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Just because they're not actively developing any more versions of Netscape, it does not mean that the Netscape browser will disappear overnight. Duh.
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but in that MS article .. WTF is 'Hyperspace' ?!?!?
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Oh my goodness.. people around here really HAVE GONE INSANE!!! .. I find no problems in using my intellimouse.. or any other mice for that matter..
:)
Maybe you need to re-learn your mousing skills?
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Netscape 6 was based off of very OLD Mozilla code, which even at the time of the release of NS6 was slated as needing bugfixes. These were in the wings IIRC but were not added due to some marketroid.
.. a behaviour I can't stand as I WANT to know if the HTML is bad so I can fix it. Sweeping the problem under the carpet doesn't help anyone. People who write broken HTML and then expect luser tools like IE to fix it for viewing are very poor designers/programmers and they give web developers a very bad name.
Yes, Netscape has problems but I found that using the the current build of Mozilla today, my pages render better in Netscape 4.7x, then Mozilla and then IE... in that order.
I personally HATE to develop web pages in IE, as they can be broken but you'll never know, as IE 'fills in the gaps'
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You can turn it off, just whip out RegEdit.
u rr entVersion\Run
Go to:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\C
And delete the DirectCD wizard entry. That'll stop it from running on startup, in case you want to load anything else that conflicts with it.
If you want to use CD-RWs though (I found I couldn't eject them without it - weird!), you do need to load it.
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You really need to READ the article you're flaming ..
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No, we'd rather have the power-line towers fall over and black-out huge areas when the weather turns bad .. Yay..
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Delphis
A late reply of mine .. Just wanted to acknowledge your response and thank you for the information :)
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Finally, imagine that a political body imposes a deadline on imported programs.. that they must support their new standard by such-and-so a date or it won't be permitted within the country. The Chinese did this, extending the deadline to Sept. 2001. I only found out about this yesterday.
The Chinese lately seem to just be trying to piss everyone off as much as possible.
Granted, people whining about prejudice when they don't understand the technical reasons behind it doesn't help at all. It's sad really. These people need to grow up and understand that large changes don't happen immediately, and that if the state of affairs is how it is then it doesn't necessarily mean that anyone is trying to 'oppress' them. Take a fucking pill, people. There's such a bandwagon for being the 'oppressed people' that people who feel begrudged immediately assume this without THINKING.
ARrrrrghh.. Can't we all just get along?
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Well most people's English is better than a lot of the rest of the world's Chinese - in Europe and the USA. I still think all character sets should be supported, but the internet is, as of now, mainly used by English-speaking (as their primary language) nations, and even those who it isn't their primary language (e.g. continental Europe), they are mainly all fluent in English. .. it's not going to happen though. Spanish is more likely to take over than Chinese at any rate.
You could say 'Well, those lazy-ass Americans/Brits etc. they should go learn another language'
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Oh dear :) .. that's quite sad isn't it?
I don't actually have the BIOS passwords set on any of the computers I use (I don't have any need to), but I thought they were a bit more well designed than that. Doh.
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Yea, I know they're compatible :) .. I was just wondering about the memory bus speed really.
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