I've been predicting a rising trend in northern hemisphere temperatures from Jan to July and a falling trend between July and Jan for half a century now and I've been correct every time. As you say, predicting average trends is much easier than doing the prediction for tomorrow morning rush hour here in the tri cities area.
The entire universe is a chaotic system wIth many metastable states. Therefore we can't say anything intelligent about any part of it. Oh, we can? Gee, I guess maybe we can say intelligent things about parts of the climate too.
I hereby postulate a new variant of Godwin's law: As the length of any discussion of AGW increases, the odds of the right wing participant invoking the name of Al Gore approach 1:1.
The point behind the Ted Danson and Al Gore references is that right wingers these days have selected themselves down to only those who have no ability to interpret data for themselves, and make decisions by defining themselves as good true Americans, identifying the political and media figures who are also good true Americans and therefore trustworthy, and repeating the opinions they here from these trustworthy sources; any disagreeing ideas are obviously from bad people who hate America. This is so ingrained in them that they can't conceive of any other decision making process; nobody could be looking at the data and deciding that it demonstrates climate change. Therefore, these guys figure the way to argue with evil liberals is to tear down the obvious sources of their evil liberal opinions. If they can make Al Gore look unreliable, then all those AGW nutsv will just have to change their minds.
This is a free country because I can buy 200 types of cereal with no nutritional value (or negative, for many of them) and 150 interchangeable types of toothpaste.
And mars is too small to support continental drift, which plays a role in recycling CO2 converted into carbonates, if CO2 has any important role in why MARS IS A DIFFERENT PLANET.
i propose a more modern solution, where those wishing anonymity would use some sort of object which places ink on paper manually, in a pattern which resembles a generic font and would thus be recognizable as printed words, to communicate the message. this would then be placed in some sort of opaque paper wrapper and consigned to a service which would carry it to the proposed recipient, whose physical location would be placed on the outside of the paper wrapping in a fashion analogous to the address of an email message. there could be some nominal charge for this service, like 46 cents.
Although it may not make much difference to we serfs, in fact fascism and communism are quite different in structure. Oddly enough it's usually right wingers asserting that they're the same; these would be largely the same folks whothink the government can't do anything right and we have to run the government like a business, telling us that having the businesses running the government is the same as having the government run the businesses.
If you try to criticize Obamacare by commenting on a piece about how the exchange in Oregon isn't working with a link to a Fox news article about how Obamacare is destroying Puerto Rican healthcare which states that Puerto Rico doesn't get an exchange, that the majority of Puerto Ricans are already on government insurance, and that Puerto Rico already has the second lowest state rate of uninsured, you may be a right winger!
Oddly enough, the country has evolved from a loosely connected nation of mostly small farmers led by wealthy farmers to am industrialized nation whose population had run masse moved into the cities to work and whose economy and society depended on a whole new level of long distance communication and transportation. Those countries which are snapping at our heels economically aren't run on the basis of autonomy at the council level. On the other hand all those "backwards" countries which are giving the world in general such headaches these days are pretty much governed on a local basis. The kind of thing we call a "failed state"
Corruption is also more effective at the lower levels of government. You can buy a small town mayor with a good second handBuick. To buy a governor you'd need at least a summer cabin.
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I've been predicting a rising trend in northern hemisphere temperatures from Jan to July and a falling trend between July and Jan for half a century now and I've been correct every time. As you say, predicting average trends is much easier than doing the prediction for tomorrow morning rush hour here in the tri cities area.
That's going to be the next denialist argument; how can it possibly make any difference if the absolute temperature only rises by the order of 1%?
The entire universe is a chaotic system wIth many metastable states. Therefore we can't say anything intelligent about any part of it. Oh, we can? Gee, I guess maybe we can say intelligent things about parts of the climate too.
I hereby postulate a new variant of Godwin's law:
As the length of any discussion of AGW increases, the odds of the right wing participant invoking the name of Al Gore approach 1:1.
That was@pinogrigio, btw.
Are you the Comic Book Guy on the Simpsons? Because when I read your posts I always hear his voice intoning them.
You're arguing facts with a right winger?
The point behind the Ted Danson and Al Gore references is that right wingers these days have selected themselves down to only those who have no ability to interpret data for themselves, and make decisions by defining themselves as good true Americans, identifying the political and media figures who are also good true Americans and therefore trustworthy, and repeating the opinions they here from these trustworthy sources; any disagreeing ideas are obviously from bad people who hate America. This is so ingrained in them that they can't conceive of any other decision making process; nobody could be looking at the data and deciding that it demonstrates climate change. Therefore, these guys figure the way to argue with evil liberals is to tear down the obvious sources of their evil liberal opinions. If they can make Al Gore look unreliable, then all those AGW nutsv will just have to change their minds.
When I was young we didn't have tubes in computers , just people who kept repeating 1 1 1 1 or 0 0 0 0.
This must be why EasyBake ovens switched over from light bulb heating a while back.
This is clearly a plot by the liberals to penalize those of us who are not blind, yet another pandering for minority votes.
This is a free country because I can buy 200 types of cereal with no nutritional value (or negative, for many of them) and 150 interchangeable types of toothpaste.
So our global temperature is rising because a solar flare stripped the Martian atmosphere?
Too bad, somebody could have given you a library card for Christmas and you wouldn't have to ask ignorant questions.
And mars is too small to support continental drift, which plays a role in recycling CO2 converted into carbonates, if CO2 has any important role in why MARS IS A DIFFERENT PLANET.
No, see, drivers, meaning cars, meaning CO2 production, get it? It's reasonably clever. Don't worry, the guy who modded it down didn't get it either.
i propose a more modern solution, where those wishing anonymity would use some sort of object which places ink on paper manually, in a pattern which resembles a generic font and would thus be recognizable as printed words, to communicate the message. this would then be placed in some sort of opaque paper wrapper and consigned to a service which would carry it to the proposed recipient, whose physical location would be placed on the outside of the paper wrapping in a fashion analogous to the address of an email message. there could be some nominal charge for this service, like 46 cents.
Ahh tablets aren't so new. Moses had them thousands of years ago.
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How do you not realize that the quotes you provide completely oppose your definition?
Although it may not make much difference to we serfs, in fact fascism and communism are quite different in structure. Oddly enough it's usually right wingers asserting that they're the same; these would be largely the same folks whothink the government can't do anything right and we have to run the government like a business, telling us that having the businesses running the government is the same as having the government run the businesses.
If you try to criticize Obamacare by commenting on a piece about how the exchange in Oregon isn't working with a link to a Fox news article about how Obamacare is destroying Puerto Rican healthcare which states that Puerto Rico doesn't get an exchange, that the majority of Puerto Ricans are already on government insurance, and that Puerto Rico already has the second lowest state rate of uninsured, you may be a right winger!
Oddly enough, the country has evolved from a loosely connected nation of mostly small farmers led by wealthy farmers to am industrialized nation whose population had run masse moved into the cities to work and whose economy and society depended on a whole new level of long distance communication and transportation.
Those countries which are snapping at our heels economically aren't run on the basis of autonomy at the council level. On the other hand all those "backwards" countries which are giving the world in general such headaches these days are pretty much governed on a local basis. The kind of thing we call a "failed state"
Corruption is also more effective at the lower levels of government. You can buy a small town mayor with a good second handBuick. To buy a governor you'd need at least a summer cabin.
Oops that last paragraph was an answer to a different post, not yours. Never mind!