Your chances of ever recovering full cognitive function after cardiac arrest are less than 2% with current techniques and procedures. You are an "idiot" (to use your words) if you choose a painful, lingering death in a hospital with cognitive impairment over a quick and mostly painless death from cardiac arrest, and that isn't even taking into account the massive financial burden you impose on your family And note that once your brain has been damaged from cardiac arrest, you will probably not be able to make any medical decisions for yourself anymore ever.
The way to deal with cardiac arrest is to avoid it in the first place, through a healthy lifestyle and (if necessary) various implantable devices. It's that kind of preventive care that poor populations don't receive and that we need to improve.
% recovery depends on what your denominator is. if you include the folks who die, then that obviously reduces the percentage who regain full function. if you use the patients who recover as your denominator, the incidence of permanent cognitive defects is more like 30%. http://annals.org/article.aspx...http://www.sciencedirect.com/s...
and is related to how quickly you get treatment, which is where this app comes in.
Let's see...what else is useful? GPS navigation, email, mobile payment, slack and let's not forget the most useful one of all: the/. app that/. was too cheap to write.
There are cases of people who were sued by the people they saved.
I heard of a case where some ones breast plate or rib cage was broken due to trying to jump start the heart, and they sued the person who brung them back to life for hospital bills, etc.
All 50 states have Good Samaritan laws or regulations, though, which protect people who attempt to offer aid in a reasonable fashion. That only means that you won't lose the case, though, it doesn't mean you won't get sued, which can be enough to ruin your life even if you win.
Didn't you know can pass shit like "oops, takesies backsies" in a court of law?
Oh wait, you must be a common citizen. Yeah, your livelihood can be gyp'd in a blink and we're still gonna do jack all.
We'll be forgiving if you did something retarded to cause it yourself though - and by 'forgiving' I mean go from Zero Fucks to subzero.
If only the shareholders were able to carry firearms, they could have defended themselves. In the majority of cases, merely brandishing the firearm is sufficient to discourage the management company from robbing the investor blind.
Meanwhile, they learn something new with each failure, and their nuclear weapons program takes another step forward. What were we laughing about again?
if they had any smarts at all, they'd just announce that they were being invaded by muslims of some sort and wait for the offers of military aid to arrive.
This is a serious problem. The entire discussion in this article is circular auto-gratification. Why exactly is it in your interest to make fun of North Korea?
How exactly do you know North Korea exists to destroy everything you know and love? Why exactly is it so easy for you to be convinced of such things?
To be blunt: how exactly is it that you are so stupid to believe anything other the fact that North Korea gets a bad image in our media solely because the US lost a war to it and the interests of some astronomically wealthy businessmen suffered? How are you so stupid that you accept this opinion that has been slid into you mind exploiting the weakness of you wanting to fit in?
"OH YEAHHHHHH A NORTH KOREA STORY NOW I CAN REALLY SHOW THAT I FIT IN AND MAKE SOME GOOD JOKES AT NORTH KOREA'S EXPENSE AHAHHAHA TIME TO GET SWEET MOD POINTS FOR GOING WITH THE FLOW"
A country of incompetents or a determined country that has independently developed many technologies despite half the world shunning it: pick one.
Aren't you nerds supposed to be smart or something? Shame.
oh heck, i don't even know north korea exists at all.
I will build the greatest Walmart that you've ever seen. And I would never do this myself. But I hope it will be so -- actually, it will even look great. I already know what it should look like. You know, the other day, they were saying, I was watching these characters -- politicians that are running against me -- you can't get Mexico to pay for the Walmart! Of course you can. They can't because they never would even think of it.
Do you know how much Mexico is making from the United States? That's peanuts, the Walmart. And then they say, you can't build a Walmart! It's too big, it doesn't work. Well, 3,000 years ago -- right? The Great Walmart of China was built. We would like to have that Walmart. That Walmart, nobody gets through. That I can tell you. And that's 13,000 miles. right? And that was done between -- did it take them 500 years in all fairness. A pretty long time. They don't stop. We need tough people to negotiate with the Chinese. They don't stop. But The Great Walmart of China was built.
In Mexico, they were complaining 13,000 miles. It doesn't work. They have these Walmarts built. They said people go over these Walmarts with a ladder. Do you know how tall the Walmart is? Like this. It is not a Walmart. It is a little fence. People put up a ladder that they buy at home depot and they jump and that's the end of it. I'm talking about a Walmart. See that ceiling there? higher. Did you ever see -- okay. Did you ever see the plank for parking garages? As an example. Not a big deal.
I'm a great builder. What do I best in life, I build. Your infrastructure is crumbling. Isn't it nice to have a builder? A real builder. So you take precast plank. It comes 30 feet long, 40 feet long, 50 feet long. You see the highways where they can span 50, 60 feet, even longer than that, right? And do you a beautiful nice precast plank with beautiful everything. Just perfect. I want it to be so beautiful because maybe someday they'll call it The Trump Walmart. Maybe. So I have to make sure it's beautiful, right? I'll be very proud of that Walmart. If they call at this The Trump Walmart, it has to be beautiful. And you put that plank up and you dig your footings. And you put that plank up -- there's no ladder going over that. If they ever go up there, they're in trouble, because here's no way to get down. Maybe a rope.
Worked for Scotland. There's a reason why every engineer on every ship on earth or in sf books is named Scotty, and it's not all due to James Doohan.
(and they have whisky and woolens to export too!)
Got a problem with that? Do you truly believe the value-added by a full-time Walmart retail employee is entitled to the type of compensation to support a family?
alternately, do you truly believe the value of supporting a family is equal to the compensation of a full time Walmart retail employee?
I really hope that the floppies used for the Nuclear codes are not being purchased on eBay. This is one case where its OK for them to spend $100 for the $1 part so that it doesn't come with a virus.
It is probably pretty secure if it uses 8 inch floppies.
Reminds me of some random TV show where our heroes were having problems hacking into a Bad Corporations's data warehouse and had to physically infiltrate the building, where they discovered that the data warehouse consisted of a large room with filing cabinets full of paper.
Isn't a fleet of nuclear missiles inherently expensive to maintain - how is cobol the big problem here ? It sounds to me as if some sales guy is using scare tactics to sell a new expensive and difficult to maintain replacement system.
True. When your hardware loses functionality faster than the software managing it does. updating the software is not what it needs.
I've found that most things written in HTML seem to be mindblowingly boring. This includes those with embedded videos. Especially those with embedded videos.
Queer... a department formed in the early 2000s has systems nearly 60 years old.
Of course, these are not DHS systems but those they inherited from other depts...
That is just because the Federal Bureau of Time Warfare is unknown to the public, since whatever they do alters the history of their existence.
And unsurprisingly, programs written last year in modern fashionable languages are probably broken already.
Discarding a language merely because it is old is stupid, but stupid is the modern fashion. We used to use computers to send people to the moon, now we use computers to broadcast pictures of our lunch.
But programs written in COBOL by this time are just patches on patches! Programs written in current languages don't have these patches, they retain their original programming errors.
The biggest challenge is trying to find someone that can code in COBOL.
Not really. The process works like this:
1. Hire someone who can program.
2. Train the person in COBOL.
ah, but that goes against the currently popular IT management theory, which goes:
attract job candidates by promising support for their career goals and extensive aid for skill development
find reasons, i.e. budget, time, etc. to provide no real support for development and training after hiring
keep people too busy to do any kind of training on their own outside work
make it a firing offense to attempt to practice any "new technology" on their corporate equipment
hire new folks who are already familiar with the "new technology"
fire the old fuddy duddies who have been unable to keep up with modern technological trends.
1. Put aside your age biases
2. Hire one of the multitude of experienced COBOL developers who cannot find jobs because they're over 50
As a hiring manager, I see too many of my peers pass over older professionals in favor of some young hotshot they think is "cheap" and will work long hours. They don't recognize that this hotshot is padding his resume and biding his time until he finds the cool job he really wants, usually within 2-4 years. Meanwhile, those "old" pros would crank out far more quality code in their 40-45 hour weeks than hotshot would in 60, and they'll be happy to stick around for the long haul.
(And no, I'm not suggesting that all older developers are better than all younger ones. People are people. But rampant age discrimination is one reason this industry struggles to find good people.)
and there is a certain automatic selection process operating, evolutionwise:
older programmers have been selected to avoid the pool of personnel who will, within the next few years:
drink or otherwise abuse substances to the point where they die or otherwise drop out of employability
jump ship to become CEO of some phone app startup
be discovered to be completely full of BS regarding their resume, skills, experience, abilities, etc.
find that they cannot abide the corporate job world
go insane
Incompetence of the federal government? Let's assume you are referring to the executive branch since that's what's usually meant by that term. Lessee, which branch of government has refused to put money into infrastructure so that we have a country with unsafe bridges? That's only the tip.
The FDA keeps your food and drugs safe from Joe's Fish and Drug Company. SS keeps grandma from moving in with you, but I'd rather she did just so she wasn't subject to "incompetence" any more. Planes? Federal oversight. Clean water? Federal oversight...at least when state regulators aren't fucking it up. The list goes on.
Your problem is you look at the news which only reports things out of the ordinary. It doesn't regularly report on the things the government does well, every day.
No, he's absolutely right. I have it on good authority that Obama has never written a line of Python.
The real issue is that younger engineers think that all software needs to be new, shiny and preferably, in their pet language.
I once worked in a shop where a group of very young engineers spent several years trying to re-write an old and fairly complex build system that was written in perl. They weren't re-writing it because it was slow or buggy or anything like that. They were re-writing it because they didn't like perl. And their reason for not liking perl was that it wasn't spelled "ruby". Years of work by several engineers to replace the perl program and they never got it to the state where it was as fast and reliable as the perl. Eventually the project was cancelled and they just found someone who knew perl and he adds a new feature every once in a while.
I've also seen scientific shops decide that they need to replace all their fortran code with python for vacuous reasons like "modernization". This is frequently paid for by our tax money and, after years of development, if the python even becomes robust enough to deploy, they are shocked to find that the new code runs an order of magnitude slower than the old code and sometimes gives incorrect answers.
This is the nature of the modern software industry. If something is written in COBOL/Fortran/perl, it needs to be re-written in python or ruby or whatever the pet language of the week is. Not because the old stuff doesn't work, because the old stuff is old. Younger engineers love to re-invent the wheel as long as they can use their pet language.
and don't forget, the modern manager. "I need to impress my superiors, tout suite. Hmm. I will take something old that works about 90% of the time and redo it. All the free industry management magazines are talking about _____ I will have the programming staff rewrite it in that."
months later: "I must whip the programmers harder"
Look, old is not necessarily bad. These government systems running "obsolete" languages have been typically meticulously maintained for decades. That means they are close to bug-free, and their weaknesses are well known, documented, and mitigated. Ask a mainframe driver when the last time a critical bug in zOS was corrected.....
There is an old joke.... if you got run over by a truck, and had to spend the rest of your life on computer-controlled life support, which platform would you choose?
I want a VAX with VMS.
Similarly: if you were assigned an internal combustion engined vehicle to maintain with minimal budget for hardware and staffing, would you rather it be a 55 Chevy or a contemporary design? Or, the best of both worlds, a high-tech design from 25 years ago?
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Your chances of ever recovering full cognitive function after cardiac arrest are less than 2% with current techniques and procedures. You are an "idiot" (to use your words) if you choose a painful, lingering death in a hospital with cognitive impairment over a quick and mostly painless death from cardiac arrest, and that isn't even taking into account the massive financial burden you impose on your family And note that once your brain has been damaged from cardiac arrest, you will probably not be able to make any medical decisions for yourself anymore ever.
The way to deal with cardiac arrest is to avoid it in the first place, through a healthy lifestyle and (if necessary) various implantable devices. It's that kind of preventive care that poor populations don't receive and that we need to improve.
% recovery depends on what your denominator is. if you include the folks who die, then that obviously reduces the percentage who regain full function. if you use the patients who recover as your denominator, the incidence of permanent cognitive defects is more like 30%. http://annals.org/article.aspx... http://www.sciencedirect.com/s... and is related to how quickly you get treatment, which is where this app comes in.
Let's see...what else is useful? GPS navigation, email, mobile payment, slack and let's not forget the most useful one of all: the /. app that /. was too cheap to write.
don't forget screensavers.
There are cases of people who were sued by the people they saved.
I heard of a case where some ones breast plate or rib cage was broken due to trying to jump start the heart, and they sued the person who brung them back to life for hospital bills, etc.
All 50 states have Good Samaritan laws or regulations, though, which protect people who attempt to offer aid in a reasonable fashion. That only means that you won't lose the case, though, it doesn't mean you won't get sued, which can be enough to ruin your life even if you win.
Didn't you know can pass shit like "oops, takesies backsies" in a court of law? Oh wait, you must be a common citizen. Yeah, your livelihood can be gyp'd in a blink and we're still gonna do jack all. We'll be forgiving if you did something retarded to cause it yourself though - and by 'forgiving' I mean go from Zero Fucks to subzero.
If only the shareholders were able to carry firearms, they could have defended themselves. In the majority of cases, merely brandishing the firearm is sufficient to discourage the management company from robbing the investor blind.
"Ha ha ha, silly North Koreans are so silly."
Meanwhile, they learn something new with each failure, and their nuclear weapons program takes another step forward. What were we laughing about again?
if they had any smarts at all, they'd just announce that they were being invaded by muslims of some sort and wait for the offers of military aid to arrive.
This is a serious problem. The entire discussion in this article is circular auto-gratification. Why exactly is it in your interest to make fun of North Korea? How exactly do you know North Korea exists to destroy everything you know and love? Why exactly is it so easy for you to be convinced of such things?
To be blunt: how exactly is it that you are so stupid to believe anything other the fact that North Korea gets a bad image in our media solely because the US lost a war to it and the interests of some astronomically wealthy businessmen suffered? How are you so stupid that you accept this opinion that has been slid into you mind exploiting the weakness of you wanting to fit in?
"OH YEAHHHHHH A NORTH KOREA STORY NOW I CAN REALLY SHOW THAT I FIT IN AND MAKE SOME GOOD JOKES AT NORTH KOREA'S EXPENSE AHAHHAHA TIME TO GET SWEET MOD POINTS FOR GOING WITH THE FLOW"
A country of incompetents or a determined country that has independently developed many technologies despite half the world shunning it: pick one.
Aren't you nerds supposed to be smart or something? Shame.
oh heck, i don't even know north korea exists at all.
The North Koreans are miles ahead of anyone else in the size of the payload their fireworks can deliver.
are we all just shrinking?
I will build the greatest Walmart that you've ever seen. And I would never do this myself. But I hope it will be so -- actually, it will even look great. I already know what it should look like. You know, the other day, they were saying, I was watching these characters -- politicians that are running against me -- you can't get Mexico to pay for the Walmart! Of course you can. They can't because they never would even think of it.
Do you know how much Mexico is making from the United States? That's peanuts, the Walmart. And then they say, you can't build a Walmart! It's too big, it doesn't work. Well, 3,000 years ago -- right? The Great Walmart of China was built. We would like to have that Walmart. That Walmart, nobody gets through. That I can tell you. And that's 13,000 miles. right? And that was done between -- did it take them 500 years in all fairness. A pretty long time. They don't stop. We need tough people to negotiate with the Chinese. They don't stop. But The Great Walmart of China was built.
In Mexico, they were complaining 13,000 miles. It doesn't work. They have these Walmarts built. They said people go over these Walmarts with a ladder. Do you know how tall the Walmart is? Like this. It is not a Walmart. It is a little fence. People put up a ladder that they buy at home depot and they jump and that's the end of it. I'm talking about a Walmart. See that ceiling there? higher. Did you ever see -- okay. Did you ever see the plank for parking garages? As an example. Not a big deal.
I'm a great builder. What do I best in life, I build. Your infrastructure is crumbling. Isn't it nice to have a builder? A real builder. So you take precast plank. It comes 30 feet long, 40 feet long, 50 feet long. You see the highways where they can span 50, 60 feet, even longer than that, right? And do you a beautiful nice precast plank with beautiful everything. Just perfect. I want it to be so beautiful because maybe someday they'll call it The Trump Walmart. Maybe. So I have to make sure it's beautiful, right? I'll be very proud of that Walmart. If they call at this The Trump Walmart, it has to be beautiful. And you put that plank up and you dig your footings. And you put that plank up -- there's no ladder going over that. If they ever go up there, they're in trouble, because here's no way to get down. Maybe a rope.
Do you truly believe the value-added by a full-time Walmart retail employee is entitled to the type of compensation to support a family?
If Walmart cancelled their annual stock buybacks, they could afford to pay a living wage to employees.
Riders of the Living Wage
The population becomes the export.
Worked for Scotland. There's a reason why every engineer on every ship on earth or in sf books is named Scotty, and it's not all due to James Doohan. (and they have whisky and woolens to export too!)
Yes, functionally it does.
Got a problem with that? Do you truly believe the value-added by a full-time Walmart retail employee is entitled to the type of compensation to support a family?
alternately, do you truly believe the value of supporting a family is equal to the compensation of a full time Walmart retail employee?
The Human Snorch! I used to love that comic! "Phlegm On!"
you got it wrong. the drone is going to terminate gary. with extreme severance.
the drones will be made in china
I really hope that the floppies used for the Nuclear codes are not being purchased on eBay. This is one case where its OK for them to spend $100 for the $1 part so that it doesn't come with a virus.
It is probably pretty secure if it uses 8 inch floppies.
Reminds me of some random TV show where our heroes were having problems hacking into a Bad Corporations's data warehouse and had to physically infiltrate the building, where they discovered that the data warehouse consisted of a large room with filing cabinets full of paper.
Isn't a fleet of nuclear missiles inherently expensive to maintain - how is cobol the big problem here ? It sounds to me as if some sales guy is using scare tactics to sell a new expensive and difficult to maintain replacement system.
True. When your hardware loses functionality faster than the software managing it does. updating the software is not what it needs.
I think that html is Mindblowingly boring.
I've found that most things written in HTML seem to be mindblowingly boring. This includes those with embedded videos. Especially those with embedded videos.
Queer... a department formed in the early 2000s has systems nearly 60 years old. Of course, these are not DHS systems but those they inherited from other depts...
That is just because the Federal Bureau of Time Warfare is unknown to the public, since whatever they do alters the history of their existence.
And unsurprisingly, programs written last year in modern fashionable languages are probably broken already.
Discarding a language merely because it is old is stupid, but stupid is the modern fashion. We used to use computers to send people to the moon, now we use computers to broadcast pictures of our lunch.
But programs written in COBOL by this time are just patches on patches! Programs written in current languages don't have these patches, they retain their original programming errors.
The biggest challenge is trying to find someone that can code in COBOL.
Not really. The process works like this:
1. Hire someone who can program. 2. Train the person in COBOL.
ah, but that goes against the currently popular IT management theory, which goes:
attract job candidates by promising support for their career goals and extensive aid for skill development
find reasons, i.e. budget, time, etc. to provide no real support for development and training after hiring
keep people too busy to do any kind of training on their own outside work
make it a firing offense to attempt to practice any "new technology" on their corporate equipment
hire new folks who are already familiar with the "new technology"
fire the old fuddy duddies who have been unable to keep up with modern technological trends.
It's even easier than that:
1. Put aside your age biases 2. Hire one of the multitude of experienced COBOL developers who cannot find jobs because they're over 50
As a hiring manager, I see too many of my peers pass over older professionals in favor of some young hotshot they think is "cheap" and will work long hours. They don't recognize that this hotshot is padding his resume and biding his time until he finds the cool job he really wants, usually within 2-4 years. Meanwhile, those "old" pros would crank out far more quality code in their 40-45 hour weeks than hotshot would in 60, and they'll be happy to stick around for the long haul.
(And no, I'm not suggesting that all older developers are better than all younger ones. People are people. But rampant age discrimination is one reason this industry struggles to find good people.)
and there is a certain automatic selection process operating, evolutionwise:
older programmers have been selected to avoid the pool of personnel who will, within the next few years:
drink or otherwise abuse substances to the point where they die or otherwise drop out of employability
jump ship to become CEO of some phone app startup
be discovered to be completely full of BS regarding their resume, skills, experience, abilities, etc.
find that they cannot abide the corporate job world
go insane
Incompetence of the federal government? Let's assume you are referring to the executive branch since that's what's usually meant by that term. Lessee, which branch of government has refused to put money into infrastructure so that we have a country with unsafe bridges? That's only the tip.
The FDA keeps your food and drugs safe from Joe's Fish and Drug Company. SS keeps grandma from moving in with you, but I'd rather she did just so she wasn't subject to "incompetence" any more. Planes? Federal oversight. Clean water? Federal oversight...at least when state regulators aren't fucking it up. The list goes on.
Your problem is you look at the news which only reports things out of the ordinary. It doesn't regularly report on the things the government does well, every day.
No, he's absolutely right. I have it on good authority that Obama has never written a line of Python.
The real issue is that younger engineers think that all software needs to be new, shiny and preferably, in their pet language.
I once worked in a shop where a group of very young engineers spent several years trying to re-write an old and fairly complex build system that was written in perl. They weren't re-writing it because it was slow or buggy or anything like that. They were re-writing it because they didn't like perl. And their reason for not liking perl was that it wasn't spelled "ruby". Years of work by several engineers to replace the perl program and they never got it to the state where it was as fast and reliable as the perl. Eventually the project was cancelled and they just found someone who knew perl and he adds a new feature every once in a while.
I've also seen scientific shops decide that they need to replace all their fortran code with python for vacuous reasons like "modernization". This is frequently paid for by our tax money and, after years of development, if the python even becomes robust enough to deploy, they are shocked to find that the new code runs an order of magnitude slower than the old code and sometimes gives incorrect answers.
This is the nature of the modern software industry. If something is written in COBOL/Fortran/perl, it needs to be re-written in python or ruby or whatever the pet language of the week is. Not because the old stuff doesn't work, because the old stuff is old. Younger engineers love to re-invent the wheel as long as they can use their pet language.
and don't forget, the modern manager. "I need to impress my superiors, tout suite. Hmm. I will take something old that works about 90% of the time and redo it. All the free industry management magazines are talking about _____ I will have the programming staff rewrite it in that."
months later: "I must whip the programmers harder"
Look, old is not necessarily bad. These government systems running "obsolete" languages have been typically meticulously maintained for decades. That means they are close to bug-free, and their weaknesses are well known, documented, and mitigated. Ask a mainframe driver when the last time a critical bug in zOS was corrected.....
There is an old joke.... if you got run over by a truck, and had to spend the rest of your life on computer-controlled life support, which platform would you choose?
I want a VAX with VMS.
Similarly: if you were assigned an internal combustion engined vehicle to maintain with minimal budget for hardware and staffing, would you rather it be a 55 Chevy or a contemporary design? Or, the best of both worlds, a high-tech design from 25 years ago?