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North Korea Ballistic Missile Explodes On Launch Fourth Straight Time

Earlier this week, the state media of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (North Korea) broadcasted video of leader Kim Jong Un watching what appears to have been a successful launch of a submarine-launched ballistic missile. That was all fabricated, according to analysts. According to them, the launch actually took place in April. It is believed that the video was broadcasted as "an attempt to demonstrate North Korea's nuclear threat as a senior DPRK official meets with China this week." Ars Technica reports: The video was broadcast just after analyst reports said North Korea had made a fourth failed attempt in two months to test-launch the Musudan -- a missile designed to strike at targets as distant as Guam and the Philippines. The missile exploded on launch. Earlier on April 15, North Korea's military attempted a launch from a mobile launching system, but it exploded shortly after liftoff. Just two weeks later, as North Korea was preparing for the congress of the Worker's Party, there was an attempt at a dual launch -- with both missiles crashing into the sea.

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  1. Much easier way by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can't they just bootleg a copy of Photoshop?

    1. Re:Much easier way by turbidostato · · Score: 1

      "Can't they just bootleg a copy of Photoshop?"

      What for? These North Koreans have demonstrated one thing for sure: they know how to build a sturdy ballistic missile: it explodes three times in a row and it's still ready to explode the forth time!

  2. the real story here by nimbius · · Score: 4, Funny

    is that North Korea has invented some sort of entropy rocket that can explode unpredictably at low altitude, only to emerge again quickly reassembled for a new flight. Its the ballistic equivalent of the US Republican party.

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    1. Re:the real story here by Austerity+Empowers · · Score: 0

      I was thinking the real story is that their guidance sensors are so accurate they can target and annihilate mosquitos only a few mm across. See also: dwarven fishing pole

    2. Re:the real story here by DigiShaman · · Score: 3, Funny

      If a rocket could do that, it most certainly was built by the Pkunk.

      Hallelujah!!!!!

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    3. Re:the real story here by avandesande · · Score: 1

      Is there +1 flamebait? Apart from the political stuff I thought the entropy rocket was kind of funny...

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    4. Re:the real story here by Junta · · Score: 2

      Nitwit! Idiot! Stupid! Worm! Loser! Moron!

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    5. Re:the real story here by Fragnet · · Score: 1

      The North Koreans are just years away from inventing a boat capable of reaching Japan.

    6. Re:the real story here by tsotha · · Score: 1

      It could have just been a Democratic rocket that was unwilling to pull its own weight.

    7. Re:the real story here by doccus · · Score: 1

      Oh man.. at this rate, if they can't get the timing right with the 'splode button, they'll never get "beroved reader" to unwittingly strap himself in. Or.. maybe.. they got unexpectedly "gifted" right before launch?

  3. New Anti-Missile Laser Tech by zenlessyank · · Score: 4, Funny

    seems to be working quite well. I wonder if they are using the ship based or satellite based?

    1. Re:New Anti-Missile Laser Tech by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The one on the moon, muahahahahaha

    2. Re:New Anti-Missile Laser Tech by JoshuaZ · · Score: 4, Informative

      The idea is interesting but it doesn't really work. I know you are probably joking, but just to be clear the missile blew up very shortly after launch. . In atmosphere the effective range of laser weapons is short. 20 km is a generally safe upper estimate on range. See the Boeing YAL-1 for more detail https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_YAL-1. And a failure due to a laser would be highly noticeable in the debris and nature of the explosion and even if the laser wasn't visible in the regular spectrum, it would very likely show up on infrared. North Korea is definitely paying very close attention to their borders, and especially near where the rockets are being launched. It isn't clear to me where this launch occurred from. They have two main launch areas. Mof their launches are either from Tonghae https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonghae_Satellite_Launching_Ground or Sohae https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sohae_Satellite_Launching_Station and neither one is that far from China. Sohae is in fact very close. If the US had developed anti-missile lasers, it seems unlikely they would want to use them this way on China's backdoor at this time.

      That said, it wouldn't surprise me incredibly if some sort of ongoing sabotage has been at work. But for it to be a laser that would mean that many fundamental aspects of the technology would need to have been drastically improved in a very short time, and that they would then think this was a good enough use to to risk it

    3. Re:New Anti-Missile Laser Tech by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

      I would think any laser powerful enough to take out a missile would so heavily ionize the atmosphere around it that it would be irrelevant whether the laser itself was made out of visible frequencies or not.

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    4. Re:New Anti-Missile Laser Tech by macs4all · · Score: 1

      In atmosphere the effective range of laser weapons is short. 20 km is a generally safe upper estimate on range.

      Yeah, but it sure can pop popcorn!

    5. Re:New Anti-Missile Laser Tech by Tyrannicsupremacy · · Score: 1

      What about microwave beams?

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    6. Re:New Anti-Missile Laser Tech by tattood · · Score: 2

      seems to be working quite well. I wonder if they are using the ship based or satellite based?

      I think it's shark-based.

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    7. Re:New Anti-Missile Laser Tech by Flavianoep · · Score: 1

      Oh right! Sci-fi often confuses air with vacuum.

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    8. Re:New Anti-Missile Laser Tech by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Herp derp. What about using ultrasound techniques where many, many lasers are aimed at the target from many sources, providing a strong coherent energy beam only at the location of the strike, and much less visible to anyone else.

      Oh n/m, let's get more self-proclaimed physics experts on here to explain why the Boeing DeathLazer 9000 manual specifically forbids that mode of operation.

    9. Re:New Anti-Missile Laser Tech by colinrichardday · · Score: 1

      Ah, yes, the Alan Parsons Project.

    10. Re:New Anti-Missile Laser Tech by ultranova · · Score: 1

      I would think any laser powerful enough to take out a missile would so heavily ionize the atmosphere around it that it would be irrelevant whether the laser itself was made out of visible frequencies or not.

      Why would it? Even if some energy is absorbed by air, it's along a hair-thin path, so convection and conduction should keep the temperature well beneath disassociation point.

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    11. Re:New Anti-Missile Laser Tech by ChrisMaple · · Score: 1

      In atmosphere the effective range of laser weapons is short. 20 km is a generally safe upper estimate on range

      There isn't much atmosphere if you're shooting straight down.

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  4. Just glad I'm not an engineer there! by Archeopteryx · · Score: 4, Funny

    I imagine failure is not associated with longevity.

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    1. Re:Just glad I'm not an engineer there! by Jason+Levine · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Given how many failures they've had, it's amazing they have any engineers left.

      Then again, maybe that's the problem. All of the good engineers were "retired" after bad launches and now they're stuck with guys who have no experience in engineering and are struggling to make sense of the equations lest they be "retired" also.

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    2. Re:Just glad I'm not an engineer there! by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      There's never a lack of job opportunities in People's Republic of North Korea!

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    3. Re:Just glad I'm not an engineer there! by Qzukk · · Score: 2

      Assuming they had any to begin with. I'd guess when NK started down the crazy communist path, they had their own "great leap forward" complete with a purge of anyone smart enough to know that it was a bad idea.

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    4. Re:Just glad I'm not an engineer there! by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

      Mainly they've been reliant on old Soviet technology. Actually even China is still very reliant on Soviet technology. Their first aircraft carrier was largely built during the late Soviet era and sat in a Ukraine drydock for many years before being sold to them where they finished outfitting it.

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    5. Re:Just glad I'm not an engineer there! by XxtraLarGe · · Score: 1

      Then again, maybe that's the problem. All of the good engineers were "retired" after bad launches and now they're stuck with guys who have no experience in engineering and are struggling to make sense of the equations lest they be "retired" also.

      The People's Republic of North Korea has the best scientists! This information video may enlighten you...

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    6. Re:Just glad I'm not an engineer there! by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 4, Funny

      People's Republic of North Korea!

      Hah. PRoNK.

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    7. Re:Just glad I'm not an engineer there! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, anyone intelligent enough to build a ballistic missile is intelligent enough to know what NK actually is. I'm sure 99.9% of these people are hoping for an invasion by anybody to pull them to safety... yet the world continues to fail them, instead opting to "free" people that want the life they currently have and will fight to defend it. Governments are not so smrt.

    8. Re:Just glad I'm not an engineer there! by hey! · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Or maybe it's just hard, especially for a country of 24.9 million people that's largely isolated from the rest of the world. That's about 1/10 the size of the Soviet Union when they launched Sputnik (about 205 million), and the Soviet Union had considerable access to western knowledge both through espionage and German rocket scientists they snapped up.

      All that said, the idea that engineers are executed on failures is wishful thinking. The path to success goes through multiple failures, and the best possible scenario for anyone who doesn't want to see North Korea obtain long range missile capabilities would be for the regime to punish failure severely.

      It is encouraging that their failure rate is so high. But we shouldn't take too much encouragement from that. Just getting to the point where you can fail isn't exactly easy, and if you learn from those failures and funding doesn't dry up, eventually you will succeed. The German Aggregat rocket series (which culminated in the A4 rocket, more popularly known as the "V2") was riddled with discouraging failures though the early years, but the Germans kept pouring money into it. Granted they had the best rocket minds in the world, but they were living in a vacuum tube world where telemetry was much harder to obtain. They had to guess their way through their failures. The North Koreans don't -- not to the same degree.

      If they carry on, the North Koreans will eventually succeed in making something that works well enough to threaten other countries with.

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    9. Re:Just glad I'm not an engineer there! by Thud457 · · Score: 2

      Their NAZIs must not be very good rocket engineers.
      Which makes sense since America, the USSR & Great Britan got first dibs.

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    10. Re:Just glad I'm not an engineer there! by eth1 · · Score: 2

      Given how many failures they've had, it's amazing they have any engineers left.

      Then again, maybe that's the problem. All of the good engineers were "retired" after bad launches and now they're stuck with guys who have no experience in engineering and are struggling to make sense of the equations lest they be "retired" also.

      Until they get a smart engineer, who "fails" in such a way that the missile "crashes" where all the brass is standing.

    11. Re:Just glad I'm not an engineer there! by es330td · · Score: 1

      They don't have Nazis, they had to make due with Neo Nazis which, just like New Coke, turned out to be inferior to the original.

    12. Re:Just glad I'm not an engineer there! by Howitzer86 · · Score: 2

      These are probably their best and brightest and maybe even their most rebellious individuals. I can see them doing this intentionaly as their own way to fight the system. If they employ slave labor the way the Nazis did in the V2 program, the same situation may apply and the engineers themselves could be off the hook for the quality of the components. The workers and scientists could even be working together to undermine the government.

      I expect a lot of really interesting stories to come out of North Korea after they collapse.

    13. Re:Just glad I'm not an engineer there! by painandgreed · · Score: 3, Interesting

      All that said, the idea that engineers are executed on failures is wishful thinking. The path to success goes through multiple failures, and the best possible scenario for anyone who doesn't want to see North Korea obtain long range missile capabilities would be for the regime to punish failure severely.

      True, but it still doesn't mean they aren't doing it. North Korea is a very messed up place. They send plenty of their upper class kids to western schools and get fine degrees from places that are not going to just sign off on them because they are somebodies brat. Still, they may have some great agricultural majors directing the country, but they still follow irrigation and plowing methods that increase soil erosion and hurt their crops in the long term because the eldest Kim advised they do it that way. If one of the Kims happened to do an on site inspection and happened to give some "helpful advice" (there's an actual term for it, but I'd have to go look it up and I'm not sure I even have that book still), then they'll follow that advise no matter what and if anything goes wrong, its still their fault.

    14. Re:Just glad I'm not an engineer there! by Solandri · · Score: 2

      They're unlikely to execute their (indispensable) engineers and scientists for failure. They are however likely to imprison or execute their (expendable) extended family members. Often the people sent to North Korean prison camps have no idea they were even related to the person for whom they're being punished.

    15. Re:Just glad I'm not an engineer there! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1
    16. Re:Just glad I'm not an engineer there! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      "If they carry on, the North Koreans will eventually succeed in making something that works well enough to threaten other countries with."
      The NK nuclear weapon and missile technology has been purchased from 3rd parties. They acquired out dated missile technology from Russia and China. Their nuclear weapon technology was purchased from Pakistan.
      Nuclear weapons and missiles will ultimately lead towards their total destruction. They cannot play the MAD card to save them. And do they think gaining nuclear weapon capabilities will some how make all their international problems disappear? It's past time for China to take care of NK. After all they are the ones responsible for the country existing in the first place. If they cannot neutralize NK they are nothing more than a semi-first world power that contributes nothing more than cheap labor and cheap exports to the world. If Russia can annex Crimea China could certainly annex NK and the world would fall all over themselves praising the Chinese for their actions. As it stands now NK is the reason why all the surrounding countries have beefed up their anti-missile capabilities. It's almost to the point where China's nuclear deterrent is being threatened. China has had the opportunity to reduce the US military presence in the region for years but their lack of action towards NK has only increased the US presence in the region.

    17. Re:Just glad I'm not an engineer there! by DerekLyons · · Score: 1

      Or maybe it's just hard, especially for a country of 24.9 million people that's largely isolated from the rest of the world. That's about 1/10 the size of the Soviet Union when they launched Sputnik (about 205 million), and the Soviet Union had considerable access to western knowledge both through espionage and German rocket scientists they snapped up.

      It's not the 1940's or 1950's anymore - all the know-how of those German engineers (and more) can be had by hitting Amazon. The actual experience you can't get mail order of course, but being able to get the information is a huge step up.

    18. Re:Just glad I'm not an engineer there! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except you can't get Amazon in North Korea. They have no financial agreements allowing payment to be sent, and probably block Amazon for information control in any case.

    19. Re:Just glad I'm not an engineer there! by hey! · · Score: 1

      Sure. If the information wasn't in the public domain it'd be much, much harder. Having that information is how a country with a GDP of only fifteen billion dollars managed to put a satellite in orbit. But that still doesn't make it easy. Actual experience tells you how to build a design that is sound in principle so that the actual rocket doesn't blow up -- which is very common in rocket experimentation.

      Running a rocket design program in an economy as poor as North Korea's is even more challenging. It's also unconscionable.

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    20. Re:Just glad I'm not an engineer there! by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 1

      People's Republic of North Korea!

      Hah. PRoNK.

      Given the mirth in the room after reading this out, why is it not modded 5 - Funny?

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    21. Re:Just glad I'm not an engineer there! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...the idea that engineers are executed on failures is wishful thinking. The path to success goes through multiple failures, and the best possible scenario for anyone who doesn't want to see North Korea obtain long range missile capabilities would be for the regime to punish failure severely.

      Well, I'm glad someone finally pointed out all that logical thinking that goes on in that country. It's not like they're known for imprisoning and killing generations of families for merely speaking against the regime or anything. I'm certain the price for embarrassing the shit out of the country with public displays is far less than that.

      If they carry on, the North Koreans will eventually succeed in making something that works well enough to threaten other countries with.

      Or they could simply carry on and end up blowing themselves up. I know, I know. Wishful thinking.

    22. Re:Just glad I'm not an engineer there! by Xest · · Score: 1

      "Just getting to the point where you can fail isn't exactly easy"

      Well I'm not entirely sure that's true, despite my lack of knowledge on this topic I'm pretty sure even I could fashion some kind of pointy tube out of metal, fill it full of some kind of fuel, shove a fuse made of string or something dipped in fuel and light it only to have it probably blow up on the floor or a few feet off of it.

      I'm assuming you meant that getting to the point where you have something theoretically viable but fail is difficult as I'm pretty sure just outright failing by having it on the ground blowing up isn't too hard :)

  5. This is what happens... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...when technical decisions are made for political reasons.

    At least, that is my assumption as to why they keep failing. I imagine that at every level of organization throughout the team building and launching these missiles, egos are driving people to hide mistakes that need correcting, to promote people with connections but not talent, to skip work in order to meet deadlines, etc.

    1. Re:This is what happens... by CaptainLard · · Score: 3, Insightful

      ...when technical decisions are made for political reasons.

      Yeah, thats the problem with North Korea...

    2. Re:This is what happens... by hey! · · Score: 1

      Remember North Korea has successfully launched two orbital satellites, so it's not like they're just going through the motions here. That's two successful launches for 4 tries, to LEO with rather small (100kg) payloads. Not too shabby under the circumstances.

      So what this thing represents isn't some kind of pie-in-the-sky political boondoggle; it represents an ambitious and attempt to extend NK's technological capabilities. It delivers a much larger payload than the rocket systems which NK's semi-successful orbital launch system was based on but in a single stage. That same technology integrated into a multi-stage rocket would likely give NK the ability to deliver a thousand kg or so to the US mainland. They'd need to build a robust, compact and efficient warhead to put on that rocket, and that is a tall order.

      Eventually they'll get there if they keep trying. And well before they have develop a reliable war-fighting weapon they'll have something effective enough to make threats with.

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    3. Re:This is what happens... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Eventually they'll get there if they keep trying. And well before they have develop a reliable war-fighting weapon they'll have something effective enough to make threats with.

      And long before that they'll get nuked.

      Or "democratized".

      Or whatever it's called these days.

  6. Round warheads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They keeping making the warheads round, so they'll just bounce instead of exploding...

  7. Heads will roll by cyberchondriac · · Score: 2

    No doubt someone is up for execution for this embarrassing string of events. Problem is, the engineer(s) on the butcher block was/were probably their best. Un will wind up whittling down his rocket scientists to nothing.

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    1. Re:Heads will roll by LWATCDR · · Score: 3, Interesting

      "Problem is, the engineer(s) on the butcher block was/were probably their best. Un will wind up whittling down his rocket scientists to nothing."
      While I do feel sorry for Un's victims and their families I have to say that this is almost as bad of a "problem" as it was a problem that Hitler hated all the Jewish physicists. The only real problem is that they can not run away with their families.

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    2. Re:Heads will roll by kbonin · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Historically, nations that follow these sorts of practices become self-limiting in their ability to cause widespread geopolitical problems, at least pushing it out a few generations. Other nations have stunted their technical and scientific growth massively in the past, for reasons which make little sense today, like China destroying the largest navy in the known history of the earth in 1525 and banning construction of ships with more than two masts.

    3. Re:Heads will roll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      China has always been its own worst enemy - always! FYI

    4. Re:Heads will roll by macs4all · · Score: 1

      No doubt someone is up for execution for this embarrassing string of events. Problem is, the engineer(s) on the butcher block was/were probably their best. Un will wind up whittling down his rocket scientists to nothing.

      Cool!

    5. Re:Heads will roll by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 3, Interesting

      "Make little sense"? What do you mean? It made plenty of sense to get rid of this hugely expensive white elephant. China had looked out into the world and found nothing but squabbling barbarians in every direction. There was nothing in the world worth having, China already made everything it needed (autarky). Where is the idea that scientific growth was needed to succeed? China was already the most developed nation in the world. I think you have a very narrow-minded and Western-focused view of what history should be like. It's kind of frightening because you consider yourself educated and yet don't know anything about the motivations of foreign cultures.

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    6. Re:Heads will roll by dunkindave · · Score: 1

      No doubt someone is up for execution for this embarrassing string of events.

      Nah, they will put them on the next test launch to debug the problems in real-time. It's a massive career "boosting" opportunity! (Or so the Glorious Leader was heard to say)

    7. Re:Heads will roll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It may have made sense and worked for awhile but China gave up a massive running start for control of the oceans which would later be the cornerstone of every later dominant world power.

    8. Re:Heads will roll by avandesande · · Score: 1

      After this China lagged behind the western world socially and technologically in just about every measurable way.

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    9. Re:Heads will roll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't give a fuck about soccer. So fuck you, straight up.

    10. Re:Heads will roll by tsotha · · Score: 1

      Yes, China was already the most developed nation in the world... and with policies like this one it stagnated to the point Western powers were able to waltz in and take over. You're not making the point you think you're making.

    11. Re:Heads will roll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To slashdot geeks, history is a game of civilization with a tech tree that needs feeding. Same reason they push constant "app" development despite lacking a plausible business case for it except in navigation, which is a saturated market.

    12. Re:Heads will roll by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      And applying 20/20 hindsight to contemporary decisions is a disease. They made the decision with the evidence they had on hand at the time, they didn't know 300 years down the road they were going to get invaded. Sheesh...how do you even justify idiot opinions like these to yourself? What should we today predict will happen 300 years from now, so that we can make the correct decision now. A decision that likely appears quite un-obvious to us in 2016? Damn, educated people scare me because they don't believe they can ever be wrong.

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    13. Re:Heads will roll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      China had looked out into the world and found nothing but squabbling barbarians in every direction. [...] China was already the most developed nation in the world. [...] don't know anything about the motivations of foreign cultures.

      Later, Europe was the most developed region in the world, and looked out and found nothing but squabbling barbarians in every direction. So they civilised them: we owe all our great technical achievements, including almost all the technologies you use day-to-day, to the European age of colonisation. If China had done the same, we could have reached our current level of development a few hundred years earlier.

      I see China's motivation in turning inward: it's awfully tempting to think that the outside world is unimportant, and your own petty internal squabbles are all that matter. But history has judged them, and found them wanting. Note that modern China isn't making the same mistake.

    14. Re:Heads will roll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "It civilized them" eh? If that means 200+ years of Imperialism hundreds of wars, massacres, and outright genocides, as well as causing every single international political problem that exists today, then sure....

    15. Re:Heads will roll by tsotha · · Score: 1

      They made the decision with the evidence they had on hand at the time, they didn't know 300 years down the road they were going to get invaded.

      Of course they knew, or should have. Weak countries always get invaded eventually. China had been invaded by steppe nomads over and over for hundreds of years until the invention of gunpowder.

    16. Re:Heads will roll by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yes but it was done in a most civilized way. With "please"s and "thank you"s and "I'm terribly sorry about that old boy"s.

  8. It may be amusing to see them fail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    but they are likely learning from every failure.

  9. So ballistic missiles aren't easy... by BellyJelly · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think we should be thanking the North Koreans for demonstrating that making ballistic missiles that actually work isn't easy.

  10. rocket science by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This actually IS rocket science. Stick to starcraft.

    1. Re:rocket science by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hah! way to show your ignorance.

    2. Re:rocket science by meerling · · Score: 1

      Correct, it's South Korea that has the major Starcraft Players.

    3. Re:rocket science by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So they should play Kerbal?

  11. just like the dear leader by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    explodes just like the dear leader after a particularly large and hearty meal of beans and cabbage.

    1. Re:just like the dear leader by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Q: How can you recognize Dear Leader when visiting NK?
      A: Look for the fat guy.

    2. Re:just like the dear leader by uncqual · · Score: 1

      Indeed, it does seem to be unwise to be the only fat guy in the country AND a likely primary target of any attack. I'd think you'd like to keep your footprint from satellite/drone view to be about the median in this case. Maybe the Fear Leader will realize this and require everyone to wear those goofy sumo wrestler suits around (only to discover the drones also have IR cameras and the big layer of insulation around everyone but him makes them have an even smaller signature - oh well, tough [!!BOOM!!]).

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  12. Despite how funny this is, it IS serious by mhollis · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Watching North Korea fail, and do so repeatedly is really funny. What is not funny is their determination. I note that others are suggesting that their rocket scientists are probably short-lived, as are their nuclear scientists. Nonsense. Kim Jong Un does offer special favors for those persons who are successful but a nuclear scientist or a rocket scientist are unlikely to challenge him or his heirs to government positions of power. They are scientists, not political operatives and, thus, are seen as commodities to be used, not existential challenges to be met.

    The determination they are showing that they will do everything in their power, including starve their people, in order to produce weapons of mass-destruction is the real takeaway here. While I am happy at their repeated failures, I am not happy at their persistence.

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    1. Re:Despite how funny this is, it IS serious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "THEY" (as in 'the country' or the country's people) don't have the determination, "HE" ("supreme leader" Kim Jong-un) does.

      The best thing that could happen would be for one of these missile attempts to really backfire and wipe out their entire government and military leadership.

    2. Re:Despite how funny this is, it IS serious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Our mighty North Korean ballistic missile system causes our enemies to cower before us! They die in great quantities, so long as they are all present at the missile launch site..."

    3. Re:Despite how funny this is, it IS serious by OzPeter · · Score: 2

      Watching North Korea fail, and do so repeatedly is really funny. What is not funny is their determination.

      Last week I watched The Propaganda Game on Netflix. It was an interesting eye opener of what North Koreans think of themselves and the rest of the world. Especially interesting was the Spanish guy who effectively emigrated to NK and was spouting the NK political line.

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    4. Re:Despite how funny this is, it IS serious by Kierthos · · Score: 1

      Well, that assumes that Kim Jong Un is fairly stable, now doesn't it? I mean, okay, just because he is "Dear Leader" (or whatever the hell they call him) and has this cult of personality built up around himself and his family (well, his father and grandfather) doesn't mean he's as crazy as a shithouse rat, but let's consider something.

      He's probably not used to being told "We can't do that." or "No." or anything like that. I mean, yeah, he has no problem having relations executed for getting in his way, but given how little information actually gets out of NK, we have no idea if he's foolish enough to execute scientists and engineers who fail to meet unrealistic/impossible expectations.

      Yeah, there are almost certainly people in the NK leadership feeding him the rosy version of events concerning these failed missile launches, but they can only sugarcoat it so many times before he's going to realize something is up, if he hasn't already.

      Or hell, maybe he's too busy enjoying the big fish in his little pond to really care.

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    5. Re:Despite how funny this is, it IS serious by ripvlan · · Score: 1

      Right. What happens when they do manage to keep the candle lit?! Listen people - they have a rocket, and rocket fuel ! And a submarine (man I want one of those).

      Give me a budget and a mission statement and I can get'r done. Imagine what a whole country can do?! I recall a few USA rockets failing to achieve orbit.

      Of course I also have to wonder about 4 failures. Yes rockets are hard. But might their centrifuges be off balance? :-P

    6. Re:Despite how funny this is, it IS serious by meerling · · Score: 1

      I dunno. Their inability to successfully launch missiles has been standard since the 80s.
      The US and several other countries keep a close eye on this activity, using not only radar, but they also record all the radio data that goes back and forth.
      Heck, we probably know more about their missiles than they do.
      So far it looks like it's still SNAFU. (Situation Normal, All F'd Up)

    7. Re:Despite how funny this is, it IS serious by meerling · · Score: 1

      North Korea has been doing this (and failing) since at least the 80s.
      I learned about their many failures over the years initially in 1984, and their current hyperinflated ego in charge was born in 1983, so it's a lot more than just his 'determination'. At this point their continued attempts and failures have become a well entrenched tradition!

    8. Re:Despite how funny this is, it IS serious by meerling · · Score: 1

      Maybe the next missile needs more dead birds, and less Chinese fireworks.
      I know of no other country that has had such a long succession of utter failures and still continues to declare themselves successful.

    9. Re:Despite how funny this is, it IS serious by meerling · · Score: 1

      North Korea has been failing at launching missiles since before he was born.
      Why would he be upset at it continuing to be exactly the same as it's always been?

    10. Re:Despite how funny this is, it IS serious by MightyMartian · · Score: 2

      Actually, I think Kim Jong Un is eminently rational; cold, probably sociopathic, but incredibly rational. Think about it. When he first took over from Kim Jong Il, the regime put minders in place, most prominently his uncle, Jang Song-Thaek. Kim Jong Un seems to have understood that the first few years of his reign were going to be with training wheels, but when he decided it was time to come off, he took out anyone in the regime that had a significant power base, or any close ties with China. Stalin and Mao both did the same sort of thing in their time, taking out rivals, usually brutally, and with show trials to make it clear to anyone else who had any designs that opposed the Supreme Leader that he could dispense with them just as easily.

      While there are nutcases like Idi Amin out there, for whom power leads to a sort of megalomaniacal madness. But there are rulers like Stalin and Saddam Hussein, and Kim Jong-un, who may be megalomaniacs, but who are most definitely very rational actors.

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    11. Re:Despite how funny this is, it IS serious by Pentium100 · · Score: 1

      Kim is smart enough to know that having powerful weapons is the only way possible for him to stay in power.

    12. Re:Despite how funny this is, it IS serious by mhollis · · Score: 1

      What about the approval of his countrymen? We (the United States) do not necessarily agree with everything that Angela Merkel or David Cameron does, but they remain in power. And there are countries without nuclear weapons and missiles. We may not agree with everything that Luis Guillermo Solís, Juan Carlos Varela, Ellen Johnson Sirleaf or Ernest Bai Koroma (none have nuclear weapons, ICBMs and all were popularly-elected) do, yet they stay in power and there is no threat to their position from the United States or from other countries.

      The idea that you have to "rattle a saber" in order to stay in power is foolish. Only despots have to develop a system of force to gain, consolidate and remain in a position of power. And that is what makes North Korea not funny.

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    13. Re:Despite how funny this is, it IS serious by Pentium100 · · Score: 1

      Ukraine gave up its nuclear weapons in exchange for a promise from the USA and Russia to protect its sovereignty and territorial integrity. Russia later decided to "liberate" Crimea and parts of Ukraine because fascism.

      Libya gave up its nuclear program and the whole country got "liberated" and nothing good happened to Gaddafi.

      So, Kim giving up his nuclear weapons would most likely result in a "liberation" too.

      I do not think that Kim is a very good leader for the country (even Stalin looks good compared to him), however, he is smart enough to understand that having multiple nukes aimed at the population centers of South Korea is a good way to prevent an invasion (even one nuke getting past the missile defense would result in a lot of casualties).

      While the US does not agree with everything that Germany or the UK does, it agrees with most of the important stuff (I wonder what would happen if, say, the EU decided to ally with Russia (and, for example, send military help for Assad) or just stand on its own), but plenty of other countries were invaded or had their regimes replaced by the US, Iraq for example.

      Russia acts the same way of course - do something to really piss them off (and have no nukes or NATO membership, coincidentally, trying to get EU/NATO membership counts as "really pissing Russia off") and you will get invaded.

  13. somebody gonnnnna get huuuuuurt! by funkymonkjay · · Score: 1

    stick carrot

  14. 4/4. Outstanding reliability! by idontgno · · Score: 1

    Now they just need to figure how to transport the unlaunched missiles to their targets in order to launch/detonate them on top of the running-dog imperialist lackeys they hate so much.

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    1. Re:4/4. Outstanding reliability! by Slizzo · · Score: 1

      Right. They reliably explode on the launch pad. Best get to smuggling them now.

  15. Entirely expected by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    North Koreans have small dongs.

    1. Re:Entirely expected by TWX · · Score: 2

      I don't think it matters what Taepodong they have if they can't get their 'dong up...

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  16. How many this time? by prisoner-of-enigma · · Score: 1

    I wonder how many scientists and generals are going to be shot THIS time. Or maybe they'll just round up and shoot all their families instead.

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  17. What happens to the engineers and scientists? by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

    How does DPRK deal with failure? Eventually they are going to lose patience with the people responsible for failure.
    Do rocket scientists get reassigned to digging ditches, do they get executed, what happens to them?

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    “Common sense is not so common.” — Voltaire
    1. Re:What happens to the engineers and scientists? by Nidi62 · · Score: 1

      How does DPRK deal with failure? Eventually they are going to lose patience with the people responsible for failure. Do rocket scientists get reassigned to digging ditches, do they get executed, what happens to them?

      Honestly, probably not much, at least for the rank and file scientists. Remember, the people working on these projects are expensive. They've most likely gotten the best and most expensive education available in the DPRK, and are allocated some of the best housing and food. A department head might have their own career sidetracked or at a dead end, but even the are unlikely to be executed (probably because they had the necessary connection to reach that high a rank in the first place). The government has simply invested too much into them to kill them.

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    2. Re:What happens to the engineers and scientists? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just a question, how many V2 rockets in WW2 blew up before Germany got one to work all the way to London? How many did the USA blew up before we got them to work?

      Building rockets that work is hard, I would think they got the talent it most likely their material science that behind the times. Their manufacturing materials may not be up to making rockets ... YET!

    3. Re:What happens to the engineers and scientists? by macs4all · · Score: 1

      The government has simply invested too much into them to kill them.

      You're assuming that Dear Leader is a rational Despot.

      Absolutely NOTHING in his past or present behavior would support such a conclusion.

    4. Re:What happens to the engineers and scientists? by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

      the US didn't have all that many failures in their early rockets, because we started off with German scientists who already did the hard trial and error.

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    5. Re:What happens to the engineers and scientists? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Look at all the failures the USA had early on. Later a couple of shuttles and 14 lives.

      Every launch has risk and possibility of failure. /. seems to think "THEIR" failures are catastrophic and "OURS" are not.

      Good time to turn in your nerd badge and hat. /. home of the "ZERO"

    6. Re:What happens to the engineers and scientists? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The Soviet Socialist Ruskies also had their pool of ex-National Socialist German rocket scientists. The Ruskies put a dog (Leika) and later a man (Yuri Gagarin) into space before the US which suffered many exploding rockets.

    7. Re:What happens to the engineers and scientists? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_H._Goddard

    8. Re:What happens to the engineers and scientists? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...and I'm not from the U.S.

  18. X37 by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

    Got real punch!

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  19. Re:Trump is right, the experts are wrong by OzPeter · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Trump's proposal to have Japan and South Korea go nuclear is the right response to this.

    OK remind me again. Which day of the week is it that you are saying that Trump thinks a nuclear Japan is good? I've lost track of which side of the topic he is currently on.

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  20. Silly by Noah+Haders · · Score: 1

    "Ha ha ha, silly North Koreans are so silly."

    Meanwhile, they learn something new with each failure, and their nuclear weapons program takes another step forward. What were we laughing about again?

    1. Re:Silly by Lumpy · · Score: 0

      No they dont. They execute the engineers for failures. They dont learn anything at all.

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    2. Re:Silly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He's still alive but he's very badly burned.

    3. Re:Silly by Noah+Haders · · Score: 1

      I doubt they execute all the engineers. They prolly just take out the head guy and everybody else moves up a notch. All the real work is done by the people in their 20's, anyway.

    4. Re:Silly by gzuckier · · Score: 1

      "Ha ha ha, silly North Koreans are so silly."

      Meanwhile, they learn something new with each failure, and their nuclear weapons program takes another step forward. What were we laughing about again?

      if they had any smarts at all, they'd just announce that they were being invaded by muslims of some sort and wait for the offers of military aid to arrive.

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  21. Consequences by JustAnotherOldGuy · · Score: 1

    Sounds like someone is getting fired...and by "fired" I mean "literally burned alive".

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  22. Un-watching? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sorry Kim Jong, but no matter how many times you try to un-watch the event, it won't change the fact that the missile exploded...

  23. Keystone Terrorists by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    North Korea seem to be the Keystone Terrorists; they roar like a tiger and bite like a kitten.

  24. sabotage or incompetence? by publiclurker · · Score: 3, Insightful

    considering how North Korea lises to kill people as punishment, I wouldn't be surprised if they have managed to run out of top rocket scientists.

    1. Re:sabotage or incompetence? by macs4all · · Score: 0

      considering how North Korea lises to kill people as punishment, I wouldn't be surprised if they have managed to run out of top rocket scientists.

      I was thinking the same thing.

    2. Re:sabotage or incompetence? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You were thinking "lises"?

    3. Re: sabotage or incompetence? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Weren't you?

    4. Re:sabotage or incompetence? by edtice1559 · · Score: 2

      Or perhaps their top scientists know how oppressive the regime is and they are intentionally dragging their feet. At some point in the future, they may be regarded as heroes. They are in a precarious situation no matter what. If they fail too spectacularly, they may get put to death. Once they are successful they may no longer be useful and know too much and get put to death. So self-interest and heroism may align here. Make just enough progress to stay alive.

    5. Re:sabotage or incompetence? by doccus · · Score: 1

      OK perhaps he stated it partly in jest, but actually, it's a real probability.. A very large part of the reason that Germany lost WW2 was because of their tendancy to send the best scientists tio the death camps if they did not comply. So only the ones that had not escaped, and that were willing to do their science for anyone, even the Nazis, remained.. Perhaps they could have refused, and died, was their rationale.. and we don't know for sure how many of the Nazi prototypes failed due to internal sabotage by those same scientists, but then, we also don't know how many of the DPRK projects are failing for the same reason..
      That there are fewer scientists in the pool because of the stalinesque manner of recruitment is a certainty, however...

  25. Next time, invite Kim Jong Un to the Launch Pad by macs4all · · Score: 1

    That way, he can have a front-row seat to witness the Glorious Achievements of their Most Exalted Dear Leader.

  26. Please let this be intentional by Tyrannicsupremacy · · Score: 0

    I'm gonna laugh so hard if it turns out it's been some top secret directed energy project being tested by DARPA, having the gooks scrambling to find problems that don't exist.

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  27. Re:Trump is right, the experts are wrong by meerling · · Score: 1

    I'd have to look up the video clip, but I'm pretty sure he said Japan and NORTH Korea.
    Of course, that was just one interview, who knows what he claimed in the next.

  28. The real reason... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...Reagan SMASH!!!

  29. They should follow China's lead by The+Grim+Reefer · · Score: 1

    It is believed that the video was broadcasted as "an attempt to demonstrate North Korea's nuclear threat as a senior DPRK official meets with China this week."

    First, "boradcasted [sic]"? Really?

    Anyhow, since they're trying to impress China, they should splice in movie clips, like China does. Maybe cut to Kim Jong Un, cut to stock footage of a Minuteman missile launching , back to Kim Jong Un smiling, then the clip from Independence Day when the White House blows up.

  30. Heads rolling tonight by slazzy · · Score: 1

    I bet the heads will be rolling tonight...

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  31. US propaganda by axewolf · · Score: 0

    This is a serious problem. The entire discussion in this article is circular auto-gratification. Why exactly is it in your interest to make fun of North Korea?
    How exactly do you know North Korea exists to destroy everything you know and love? Why exactly is it so easy for you to be convinced of such things?

    To be blunt: how exactly is it that you are so stupid to believe anything other the fact that North Korea gets a bad image in our media solely because the US lost a war to it and the interests of some astronomically wealthy businessmen suffered? How are you so stupid that you accept this opinion that has been slid into you mind exploiting the weakness of you wanting to fit in?

    "OH YEAHHHHHH A NORTH KOREA STORY NOW I CAN REALLY SHOW THAT I FIT IN AND MAKE SOME GOOD JOKES AT NORTH KOREA'S EXPENSE AHAHHAHA TIME TO GET SWEET MOD POINTS FOR GOING WITH THE FLOW"

    A country of incompetents or a determined country that has independently developed many technologies despite half the world shunning it: pick one.

    Aren't you nerds supposed to be smart or something? Shame.

    1. Re:US propaganda by CohibaVancouver · · Score: 2

      How exactly do you know North Korea exists to destroy everything you know and love?

      Because North Korea is trying to build nuclear bombs and missiles that can reach North America.

      Last time I checked, Mexico and Belgium weren't working hard to try to figure out how to drop a bomb on my head.

    2. Re:US propaganda by axewolf · · Score: 1

      You are completely missing the point.
      How do you know?
      How do you know you know, so to speak?
      Most importantly, how do you know you can trust what you've heard?

      How do you know they intend to launch bombs onto the US? Did you miss grade-school? Didn't you have discussions about the implications of nuclear warfare? Namely, retaliation?

      Obviously no one is developing nuclear weapons for offensive purposes. The resources are too scarce across the world; they are entirely accounted for, therefore 1) only entities of power that have resources spread across countries (namely, governments) have nuclear weapons and 2) everyone knows everyone who has them, so there is no question of where to retaliate in kind. And there seems to be no way to counter such retaliation.

      So to fill in your grade-school education, nuclear weapons exist only to establish countries as legitimate, that is, they must be shown enough respect and allowed enough space to live. You can't take everything from them or else they will lose their interest in the world and hold everyone else to the same fate.
      Nuclear weapons are one of the few things in the world ensuring any kind of justice for less dominant peoples.

    3. Re:US propaganda by ultranova · · Score: 1

      To be blunt: how exactly is it that you are so stupid to believe anything other the fact that North Korea gets a bad image in our media solely because the US lost a war to it and the interests of some astronomically wealthy businessmen suffered?

      To also be blunt: North Korea gets a bad image in media because there's nothing nice about North Korea. It's a country-sized concentration camp led by a succession of particularly nasty dicators who's only interest or competence is taking all power and wealth for themselves.

      Kim Whatever is basically the archetypal robber baron elevated to the status of a king.

      A country of incompetents or a determined country that has independently developed many technologies despite half the world shunning it: pick one.

      A prison camp who's warden has his victims build weapons based on technology that's sufficiently outdated everywhere else to be declassified. And they seem to be failing even at that.

      Aren't you nerds supposed to be smart or something? Shame.

      Smart enough to notice an obvious shill.

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    4. Re:US propaganda by axewolf · · Score: 0

      instead of justifying anything you "know" you just masturbate around and spew even more intellectual garbage.

      HOW
      DO
      YOU
      KNOW
      ANY
      OF THE SHIT
      THAT
      YOU
      ARE
      SAYING?

      did you miss that question that I asked like five times already? I guess when you read my post you were like "THIS SEEMS LIKE A POOR OPPORTUNITY FOR A CONVERSATION, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR ME TO PROVE MY LOYALTY TO THE STATE BY RECITING THE OFFICIAL POINT OF VIEW TO A DISSIDENT (I KNOW YOU ARE WATCHING OVER ME LIKE A GUARDIAN ANGEL, NSA/CIA/FBI, LET ME MAKE YOU PROUD (PLEASE DON'T KILL MY FAMILY)"

      Facts:
      no one likes you
      the popular kids still think you're boring
      the pretty girls are still disgusted by you
      you will never be able to satisfy your instinctual desires because you suck at life

      nothing will make up for this, especially brainlessly adopting the point of view of people who are better than you

      so stop being a pea-brained indoctrinated fuckwad and take a look at yourself
      and then take a look at the world

      you have no idea what freedom is because you surrender yours in some kind of popularity contest because of your incredibly obvious and substantial personal insecurities that completely override whatever minuscule portion of free will you have left

      You call North Korea a prison camp....THE USA IS UNDER CONSTANT AND TOTAL SURVEILLANCE. Your phone is literally your shackle. Everything you do is always accounted for. That sounds like......PRISON.

      You are a fucking animal. Stop trying to talk with people. Go roll around in the shit-mud of whatever job you managed to secure to yourself and leave the real people to talk.

    5. Re: US propaganda by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Axewolf, are you going to tell us next that the Holocaust is a myth, spread by the U.S., UK, and USSR to defame the German people? After all, HOW DO WE KNOW it happened?

      First, though, tell us how you can tell the difference between your ass and a hole in the ground.

    6. Re:US propaganda by gzuckier · · Score: 1

      This is a serious problem. The entire discussion in this article is circular auto-gratification. Why exactly is it in your interest to make fun of North Korea? How exactly do you know North Korea exists to destroy everything you know and love? Why exactly is it so easy for you to be convinced of such things?

      To be blunt: how exactly is it that you are so stupid to believe anything other the fact that North Korea gets a bad image in our media solely because the US lost a war to it and the interests of some astronomically wealthy businessmen suffered? How are you so stupid that you accept this opinion that has been slid into you mind exploiting the weakness of you wanting to fit in?

      "OH YEAHHHHHH A NORTH KOREA STORY NOW I CAN REALLY SHOW THAT I FIT IN AND MAKE SOME GOOD JOKES AT NORTH KOREA'S EXPENSE AHAHHAHA TIME TO GET SWEET MOD POINTS FOR GOING WITH THE FLOW"

      A country of incompetents or a determined country that has independently developed many technologies despite half the world shunning it: pick one.

      Aren't you nerds supposed to be smart or something? Shame.

      oh heck, i don't even know north korea exists at all.

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    7. Re:US propaganda by axewolf · · Score: 1

      "oh heck, i don't even know north korea exists at all."

      yes, exactly. You're that fucking stupid. Actually it goes way beyond stupidity to the realm of cognitive disability.

      The definition of North Korea you have in your head is contrary to the actual substance of a national government. If what you thought was true, North Korea would never have existed, let alone beat the US's expedition against it.

      Meanwhile you completely ignore my point because you know you blindly trust a source of information that constantly lies to you, you know you're stupid at best, and you are terrified of dealing with the truth. You are the problem with the world.

    8. Re:US propaganda by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      man, who pissed in YOUR cornflakes this morning?

    9. Re:US propaganda by CohibaVancouver · · Score: 1

      You can get back to me when the North Korean people have freedom of speech, freedom of movement, freedom of assembly, freedom to vote, equality rights and the rule of law. When they do, you can explain to me how the poor tyrant Kim Jung Un is just misunderstood and how I just have a grade-school education. Until then....

  32. Re:Trump is right, the experts are wrong by mmell · · Score: 1

    I agree. We should give North Korea all the nuclear weapons they can handle - one at a time, mounted on the top of used ICBM's.

  33. It must take forever by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    to glue it back together after each time.

  34. To be fair, by thinkwaitfast · · Score: 1

    No one else has been able to develop a missile that has blown up more than once.

    1. Re:To be fair, by tsotha · · Score: 1

      Heh heh. There's a version of the Tomahawk that has three warheads :)

  35. The Real Joke Is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...the guys with the satellite laser are having the biggest laugh.

    If anyone cares, here's some links of their launch efforts:
    http://i.imgur.com/cCbdcOk.gif
    http://i.imgur.com/V6oTG.gifv
    http://i.imgur.com/6wq0ayk.gifv

  36. We all laugh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We all laugh at their failures, and their pitiful nuclear weapons, BUT, they keep persisting, and sooner or later, they will perfect their issues, and they will have nuclear tipped ICBM's.

    All under the watchful eye of Obama, Bush, Clinton, etc who have done quite literally NOTHING to get rid of this threat.

    If you had a neighbor who kept telling you he was going to kill you one day, and he kept building handguns from scratch and his test fires go awry, you'd either call the cops or kill him first.

    With their concentration camps, I'm actually appalled at the lack of politicians taking this threat seriously.

  37. Maybe the missiles are NOT failing.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...on their own. Was there any thought put into the idea that some other weapon is causing the destruction of these missiles as they attempt the launch?

  38. All this will be yours by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When I first came here, this was all swamp. Everyone said I was daft to build a missile on a swamp, but I built in all the same, just to show them. It sank into the swamp. So I built a second one. That sank into the swamp. So I built a third. That burned down, fell over, then sank into the swamp. But the fourth one, well that sank into the swamp too.

  39. why is it so hot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    its so hot , WHY is it so HOT why is there no shadows, the sun is above the equator, there should always be a northern shadow , right?

  40. Too bad the North Korean Doughboy wasn't in it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Too bad that that fat slob from North Korea wasn't in the drivers seat when it blew up.

  41. Laser was Best Investment Ever! by BrendaEM · · Score: 1

    Worth every penny.

    Ha-Ha, they don't ever know : )

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  42. you're looking at it wrongly by gzuckier · · Score: 1

    The North Koreans are miles ahead of anyone else in the size of the payload their fireworks can deliver.

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