Chevy Corvette
Chevy Camaro
Chevy SS
Ford Mustang
Dodge Challenger
Dodge Dart
Dodge Viper
civic si miata subaru brz porsche 911 porsche cayman fiat abarth bmw m series golf r cadillac ats-v jaguar xe focus rs mini jcw aston martin vantage and, just to round out the list, Ram with the Cummins diesel. and wrangler rubicon
ironic how many of these manuals are made by fiajeepler, given the topic.
You're asking way too much. Remember, this is Chrysler/Jeep we're talking about here.... This company survives purely because of 1) fleet sales to rental car companies and idiotic local governments, and 2) cultist morons who buy Jeeps because "it's a Jeep thing, you wouldn't understand". Even the Apple cultists are a lot smarter than the Jeep cultists.
naw, jeep has some valuable patents on 4wd. that's why kaiser bought it from willys in the first place, and american motors bought it from kaiser, and chrysler bought it from american motors, and why mercedes bought chrysler, and now why fiat bought it from mercedes.
Ever wonder why no USB ports work in computers of the electrical engineering buildings in universities?
Very few computer USB ports are resistant to abuse caused by short circuit, reverse power, or worse.
the ones around my house (mainly phone chargers) have a finite half-life, as far as i can tell just from the mechanics of plugging in and out. as do the cables. on both the big USB end and the little microUSB end
Complaints about stupid things aren't a problem because of the impact of the solutions. They are a problem because of the decision of responding to all complaints, regardless of their legitimacy.
e.g.: When someone complains about hurt feelings, the problem isn't that the solution will destroy criticism and humor. The problem is taking action based on the complaint without analyzing its merit.
And, if one decides to go even one step before that, the problem is that the constant erosion of the teaching of critical thinking creates a population unable to think critically, which in turn makes that population incapable of deciding which situations are problems that have to be dealt with, and which are nonsense that has to be ignored.
It's: [Eliminate the teaching of critical thinking.] -> [Population takes action over silly complaints.] -> [Illogical action has consequences.]
Remember those little toys that babies are given to help them master spatial ideas? There might be a triangular piece, a circular piece, and a hexagonal piece, and a base with holes of the same shapes. A smart kid (whoops, off I go to PC jail) quickly sees that the circular piece will only fit into the circular hole, and so on.
He gets it. I disagree with him on a few topics. However, I would never dare to silence him. He has as much right to his opinions as I do. If you silence him I can be pretty sure I am next.
you cannot relax and be spontaneous because you have no idea what's going to upset them next
Truer words have never been spoken. I have worked with a few people over the years like this. You have no idea what will set them off. I have seen work places go from pretty fun joking around to people looking over their shoulders to make sure 'the right kinda people are around'. The very attitudes you are trying to squash out can become even more focused and harmful.
yeah, walking on eggshells is never fun. and that's what lots of people want other people to do. not just PC types.
While I see the point you're trying to make, some people believe that killing unborn children is the same thing as killing any other person. And I don't think you'd consider it odd that someone would protest against legalized mass killing if it was in another context.
Many people would consider it odd if your response to people killing other people was: well if you don't like killing people, don't kill them and leave me alone so I can kill them in peace. Protests against it make sense, as do the protests where the other side suggests that there is a privacy or health issue. I wouldn't consider telling either side to shut up about it.
Other people believe that guns kill people, which they do. Of course, the connection is not as direct, as guns don't automatically kill people, sometimes they kill animals, or paper targets.
That said, they can certainly be used to kill people. I am actually more on the side of Second Amendment liberties than not, but even I would not suggest that someone has no right to protest against guns. Guns can be used by one person to kill innocent people. I'd call that a concern. If you feel strongly about it, by all means protest one way or another.
The above two issues are places where it makes sense that the other side might ask for the "thing" to be outlawed. They're dangerous to someone who has no choice about avoiding them.
In this case, really, the only example where you can say, "just don't go see it," is comedy. And I agree with that 100%. When I went to college and everyone went to go to the leftist student protest, I didn't call for it to not be allowed, I just stayed away. I would think that the student body or the small fraction thereof who is offended by a protest or a comedy show would be capable of simply not going. And that is why things are going off the deep end in colleges and elsewhere.
There do exist events which are simply free speech where the offended majority now just wants to shut down *speech*. Speech should not be shut down by offense. Even if the speech is asking for something like "safe and legal abortion" to be continued or made illegal, or guns, or even racial prejudice, the *speech that either side uses to make their case* is what should not be blocked, even if you disagree with it or even find it offensive. And that is exactly what is at stake with over-sensitivity.
bingo. libertarianism/"live and let live" goes only so far. as you say, if people legitimately believe, whether misguidedly or not, that X is directly or indirectly causing pain and suffering and death then simple morality would lead them to attempt to stop X. and humans are really good at rationalizing things, but on the other hand sometimes X really is causing pain and suffering. we had a civil war about something like that once.
They're entitled to/try/. Being offended is voluntary.
Long before the Year of the SJW, I saw a youtube where Will Ferrel read some "fan messages". He read aloud a few hater emails that boiled to the "lol u suk faggot ur dumb and bad" fare, comfortably and unfazed. I suppose they might not even be real, not that it matters. Nowadays I think there's a whole series of "Celebrities read mean tweets" of the same routine.
Point is, "He who takes offense when not intended is a fool. He who takes offense when intended is a greater fool."
keep your friends close, and your enemies' underclothes,
Whether a standup comedian comes across as offensive or not is really simple. If it seems to an audience member that they might actually believe what they're saying about a group, then they come across as offensive. If it's clear to the audience member that they don't, then it doesn't.
If it seems to an audience member that they might actually believe what they're saying about a group, then that audience member is either too gullible or needs to grow a fucking backbone because everyone's entitled to their opinions.
Fixed that for you.
two examples: Dice Clay, and Donald Trump. Clay the prototype; I think he got legitimately weirded out when people took his character as a serious leadership example rather than a parody. And Trump, who makes himself a leader by running to stay in front of the direction the parade happens to be marching. in either case, the real problem is not the figurehead, but the portion of the population who feel empowered to speak out by him, instead of being legitimately embarrassed, to misquote the daily show the other day; cruz said to the Iowans "it's not me Washington is afraid of, it's you!" and that's true; I'm not as afraid of Michael Myers in Halloween as I would be of a group of people who want him to be president.
I was just having this conversation with a co-worker. It's the greatest strength and greatest weakness of the Internet. You can use it to find people who are into tabletop gaming, sports, photography, or any other interest you might have. Unfortunately, you can also use it to find people who agree with you in your hatred of GROUP A, that society would be great if we could turn back the clock to before emancipation, that nobody should offend anybody ever, or any other fringe group. And the same multiplier effect that lets one blogger take on a giant corporation can be used by a roving band of random kooks to harass a person for activities that society at large would find completely normal. (For example, a person I know is being harassed by white supremacists because she has 2 white kids and 2 black kids.)
The trick is figuring out how to prevent the abuse of the Internet's power while not limiting the good uses of its power. Unfortunately, I don't think this is solvable.
the basic problem is that people individually fit a typical gaussian curve on most characteristics, with the average being pretty decent (mutual evolution of behavior and emotions regarding others' behavior keeps that on track), however groups seem to have a lowest common denominator thing happening where the most aggressive asshole in the group sets the overall tone. all human organizations, no matter how great at first, seem to fall into this trap eventually unless they become highly exclusive. and even then, often.
It isn't women, It is the internet. The problem is a vocal minority. Before the vocal minority was just a whisper in the wind at any given location. They didn't know how to find others with the same ideals that they shared, so they were outcasts. Now they have the internet, a place of global reach to find others with a similar voice, and collectively come together on the 'net to bitch and moan about menial little things. And then they use this online collective to form physical location protests.
it isn't women, it isn't the internet, it's a kid who was living in a nice middle class secure family last year where nobody says boo and is this year handing over 50 grand a year to an institution which promised him a wonderful 4 year experience in personal growth or some such, with no downside.
“Have you ever noticed that anybody driving slower than you is an idiot, and anyone going faster than you is a maniac?” - George Carlin. Labeling others idiots and maniacs is micro-aggression! Aggrieved, aggrieved! Ban him, ban him!
wouldn't mind so much if the guy driving slower than me would let me past. as for the guys driving faster than me, great. speed trap scouts. but that's just me.
The problem with conservatives is that they're generally hypocrites. For individuals, they're usually in favor of completely free speech (which is good), but then if you say anything against corporations, they want to pass laws against it, like they have in North Carolina (where it's illegal to expose cruelty to animals on farms, or to soldiers at veterans' centers, or elderly in nursing homes).
Also, conservatives don't seem to mind you talking about things like being gay much, but they'll definitely resist any attempts to allow gay people to get married; conservatives tend to try to push their religious morality on everyone using the law.
Now, as we're seeing, the far-left is getting pretty nutty. But I think most of that is the under-30 crowd. The "normal" liberals over 30 or so don't seem to have these problems, and outside the US wouldn't even be considered very "left" at all. But because the right-wing is so far right in this nation, and full of corporation and money-worshiping religious loons who all follow Prosperity Doctrine, just believing in individual freedom (like to marry who you want, smoke what you want, etc.) and wanting a little bit of government regulation to keep the corporations from going out of control automatically makes you a leftist.
don't forget, we now have laws protecting manufacturers in one and only one industry from product liability suits; gun manufacturers. and the president under whose administration that was put into law is depicted as wanting to disarm us all. as you say, it's the old false equivalency gag; both "sides" of discourse have their lunatic fringes, but it's not symmetrical at all. in a country where leading presidential candidates of one party are suggesting religion-related curbs on immigration and/or refugee status, the fact that a handful (in my experience, fewer than the media make it seem) of loud louts on campus shout down Israeli and/or Jewish speakers is not exactly a counterbalance, for instance.
And worst of all, they typically vote Democrat.
You can mod this down if you want, but seriously, conservative kids aren't like that at all. They may get offended, but they don't pitch a fit about it like a two year old. Home-schooled kids are even better behaved. And both groups of kids have valid reasons to be offended by the way the culture has gone in this country. They just don't cry and whine about it, and they damned sure don't try to silence people they disagree with (like some on college campuses do).
do the words "brooks brothers riot" ring a bell? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... campus pc is just the minor leagues, when it comes to the serious things in life nothing says "right wing" more than getting your way by force. the fact that it is implicit more than explicit is just icing on the cake. the reason you see black kids complaining about white kids having blackface parties and you don't see white kids complaining about black kids having whiteface parties isn't that white kids are so much more tolerant, it's because black kids don't have whiteface parties.
Man, in today's college atmosphere...you could not have a Richard Pryor, George Carlin, Lenny Bruce or other great comedienne of the past (not THAT long past either).
Geez...WTF is with these young kids and their intolerance of everything that isn't happy happy, joy joy or Kumbaya (minus any religious associations of course).
When did everyone get so worried about someone being offended?
Is this the end result of everyone getting a fucking trophy as a kid just for showing up, and worrying about their fragile self esteem being nicked slightly?
Will everyone's ears bleed if they hear the word nigger or cracker or spic or wop or kraut or chink uttered?
They're words people...they won't hurt you. Grow a bit of skin and lighten up and quit looking to be offended.
in my elderly opinion, things on college have changed from when a lot of us were there; not just the pc thing, that's a symptom of the fact that colleges have very much become surrogate parents/ homes for students rather than educational institutions. a lot of that has to do with competition for market share; most colleges have more than enough applicants, but now they compete for "the right kind" of applicants who they can market to other applicants, much as tv channels want the right kind of viewers that they can market to advertisers; and part of that is making sure none of the kids get unhappy. and that's all part of the change in college degrees from being something that you work your way towards and earn to being another commodity you purchase and basically just put in some time and work and keep from the school firing you. and that's just part of the commodification of everything in life and the change of the duties of a citizen to being consumers. but i digress.
Not even 4 posts down and someone is defending the insane, thumb sucking, safe space needing, microagression fearing, losers that occupy campuses today.
good heavens! somebody on the internet has an opinion which differs from yours! in this case, rather ironic of you to be ruffled.
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it'll be here by 1990, everybody said that in the 60s.
Great list! Now try to expand it to include a large sedan, full-size pickup truck or minivan.
ram with the cummins diesel. that's about it.
Ones I can name right now.
Chevy Corvette Chevy Camaro Chevy SS Ford Mustang Dodge Challenger Dodge Dart Dodge Viper
civic si
miata
subaru brz
porsche 911
porsche cayman
fiat abarth
bmw m series
golf r
cadillac ats-v
jaguar xe
focus rs
mini jcw
aston martin vantage
and, just to round out the list, Ram with the Cummins diesel.
and wrangler rubicon
ironic how many of these manuals are made by fiajeepler, given the topic.
You're asking way too much. Remember, this is Chrysler/Jeep we're talking about here.... This company survives purely because of 1) fleet sales to rental car companies and idiotic local governments, and 2) cultist morons who buy Jeeps because "it's a Jeep thing, you wouldn't understand". Even the Apple cultists are a lot smarter than the Jeep cultists.
naw, jeep has some valuable patents on 4wd. that's why kaiser bought it from willys in the first place, and american motors bought it from kaiser, and chrysler bought it from american motors, and why mercedes bought chrysler, and now why fiat bought it from mercedes.
whose driving instructor did NOT tell them to use the parking brake, even with an automatic?
we're not talking about over current, we're talking about simple wrong polarity.
you see, gay marriage will ruin America after all.
Ever wonder why no USB ports work in computers of the electrical engineering buildings in universities?
Very few computer USB ports are resistant to abuse caused by short circuit, reverse power, or worse.
the ones around my house (mainly phone chargers) have a finite half-life, as far as i can tell just from the mechanics of plugging in and out. as do the cables. on both the big USB end and the little microUSB end
You know how many times I've seen EEs blow up hardware hooking things up backwards?
This is why we invented bridge rectifiers
Complaints about stupid things aren't a problem because of the impact of the solutions. They are a problem because of the decision of responding to all complaints, regardless of their legitimacy.
e.g.: When someone complains about hurt feelings, the problem isn't that the solution will destroy criticism and humor. The problem is taking action based on the complaint without analyzing its merit.
And, if one decides to go even one step before that, the problem is that the constant erosion of the teaching of critical thinking creates a population unable to think critically, which in turn makes that population incapable of deciding which situations are problems that have to be dealt with, and which are nonsense that has to be ignored.
It's: [Eliminate the teaching of critical thinking.] -> [Population takes action over silly complaints.] -> [Illogical action has consequences.]
Don't focus on the last step.
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Remember those little toys that babies are given to help them master spatial ideas? There might be a triangular piece, a circular piece, and a hexagonal piece, and a base with holes of the same shapes. A smart kid (whoops, off I go to PC jail) quickly sees that the circular piece will only fit into the circular hole, and so on.
I am offended by your anti-LGBT rhetoric.
He gets it. I disagree with him on a few topics. However, I would never dare to silence him. He has as much right to his opinions as I do. If you silence him I can be pretty sure I am next.
you cannot relax and be spontaneous because you have no idea what's going to upset them next Truer words have never been spoken. I have worked with a few people over the years like this. You have no idea what will set them off. I have seen work places go from pretty fun joking around to people looking over their shoulders to make sure 'the right kinda people are around'. The very attitudes you are trying to squash out can become even more focused and harmful.
yeah, walking on eggshells is never fun. and that's what lots of people want other people to do. not just PC types.
While I see the point you're trying to make, some people believe that killing unborn children is the same thing as killing any other person. And I don't think you'd consider it odd that someone would protest against legalized mass killing if it was in another context.
Many people would consider it odd if your response to people killing other people was: well if you don't like killing people, don't kill them and leave me alone so I can kill them in peace. Protests against it make sense, as do the protests where the other side suggests that there is a privacy or health issue. I wouldn't consider telling either side to shut up about it.
Other people believe that guns kill people, which they do. Of course, the connection is not as direct, as guns don't automatically kill people, sometimes they kill animals, or paper targets.
That said, they can certainly be used to kill people. I am actually more on the side of Second Amendment liberties than not, but even I would not suggest that someone has no right to protest against guns. Guns can be used by one person to kill innocent people. I'd call that a concern. If you feel strongly about it, by all means protest one way or another.
The above two issues are places where it makes sense that the other side might ask for the "thing" to be outlawed. They're dangerous to someone who has no choice about avoiding them.
In this case, really, the only example where you can say, "just don't go see it," is comedy. And I agree with that 100%. When I went to college and everyone went to go to the leftist student protest, I didn't call for it to not be allowed, I just stayed away. I would think that the student body or the small fraction thereof who is offended by a protest or a comedy show would be capable of simply not going. And that is why things are going off the deep end in colleges and elsewhere.
There do exist events which are simply free speech where the offended majority now just wants to shut down *speech*. Speech should not be shut down by offense. Even if the speech is asking for something like "safe and legal abortion" to be continued or made illegal, or guns, or even racial prejudice, the *speech that either side uses to make their case* is what should not be blocked, even if you disagree with it or even find it offensive. And that is exactly what is at stake with over-sensitivity.
bingo. libertarianism/"live and let live" goes only so far. as you say, if people legitimately believe, whether misguidedly or not, that X is directly or indirectly causing pain and suffering and death then simple morality would lead them to attempt to stop X. and humans are really good at rationalizing things, but on the other hand sometimes X really is causing pain and suffering. we had a civil war about something like that once.
They're entitled to /try/. Being offended is voluntary.
Long before the Year of the SJW, I saw a youtube where Will Ferrel read some "fan messages". He read aloud a few hater emails that boiled to the "lol u suk faggot ur dumb and bad" fare, comfortably and unfazed. I suppose they might not even be real, not that it matters. Nowadays I think there's a whole series of "Celebrities read mean tweets" of the same routine.
Point is, "He who takes offense when not intended is a fool. He who takes offense when intended is a greater fool."
keep your friends close, and your enemies' underclothes,
I think a better way to word that is everyone is entitled to offend /insult you.
and your ugly kids too.
If it seems to an audience member that they might actually believe what they're saying about a group, then that audience member is either too gullible or needs to grow a fucking backbone because everyone's entitled to their opinions.
Fixed that for you.
two examples: Dice Clay, and Donald Trump. Clay the prototype; I think he got legitimately weirded out when people took his character as a serious leadership example rather than a parody. And Trump, who makes himself a leader by running to stay in front of the direction the parade happens to be marching.
in either case, the real problem is not the figurehead, but the portion of the population who feel empowered to speak out by him, instead of being legitimately embarrassed,
to misquote the daily show the other day; cruz said to the Iowans "it's not me Washington is afraid of, it's you!" and that's true; I'm not as afraid of Michael Myers in Halloween as I would be of a group of people who want him to be president.
I was just having this conversation with a co-worker. It's the greatest strength and greatest weakness of the Internet. You can use it to find people who are into tabletop gaming, sports, photography, or any other interest you might have. Unfortunately, you can also use it to find people who agree with you in your hatred of GROUP A, that society would be great if we could turn back the clock to before emancipation, that nobody should offend anybody ever, or any other fringe group. And the same multiplier effect that lets one blogger take on a giant corporation can be used by a roving band of random kooks to harass a person for activities that society at large would find completely normal. (For example, a person I know is being harassed by white supremacists because she has 2 white kids and 2 black kids.)
The trick is figuring out how to prevent the abuse of the Internet's power while not limiting the good uses of its power. Unfortunately, I don't think this is solvable.
the basic problem is that people individually fit a typical gaussian curve on most characteristics, with the average being pretty decent (mutual evolution of behavior and emotions regarding others' behavior keeps that on track), however groups seem to have a lowest common denominator thing happening where the most aggressive asshole in the group sets the overall tone.
all human organizations, no matter how great at first, seem to fall into this trap eventually unless they become highly exclusive. and even then, often.
It isn't women, It is the internet. The problem is a vocal minority. Before the vocal minority was just a whisper in the wind at any given location. They didn't know how to find others with the same ideals that they shared, so they were outcasts. Now they have the internet, a place of global reach to find others with a similar voice, and collectively come together on the 'net to bitch and moan about menial little things. And then they use this online collective to form physical location protests.
it isn't women, it isn't the internet, it's a kid who was living in a nice middle class secure family last year where nobody says boo and is this year handing over 50 grand a year to an institution which promised him a wonderful 4 year experience in personal growth or some such, with no downside.
Fortunately one of the requirements is that you not be a member of a criminal organization.
That's not true, they allow political parties. If ever there was a band of thieves they qualify.
"honey, wake up! I think there are burglars in the house!"
"I know, dear. and also in the senate"
Saliva causes stomach cancer, but only when swallowed in small amounts over a long period of time God I miss George.....
he's turning over in his grave. from laughter.
“Have you ever noticed that anybody driving slower than you is an idiot, and anyone going faster than you is a maniac?” - George Carlin. Labeling others idiots and maniacs is micro-aggression! Aggrieved, aggrieved! Ban him, ban him!
wouldn't mind so much if the guy driving slower than me would let me past. as for the guys driving faster than me, great. speed trap scouts.
but that's just me.
The problem with conservatives is that they're generally hypocrites. For individuals, they're usually in favor of completely free speech (which is good), but then if you say anything against corporations, they want to pass laws against it, like they have in North Carolina (where it's illegal to expose cruelty to animals on farms, or to soldiers at veterans' centers, or elderly in nursing homes).
Also, conservatives don't seem to mind you talking about things like being gay much, but they'll definitely resist any attempts to allow gay people to get married; conservatives tend to try to push their religious morality on everyone using the law.
Now, as we're seeing, the far-left is getting pretty nutty. But I think most of that is the under-30 crowd. The "normal" liberals over 30 or so don't seem to have these problems, and outside the US wouldn't even be considered very "left" at all. But because the right-wing is so far right in this nation, and full of corporation and money-worshiping religious loons who all follow Prosperity Doctrine, just believing in individual freedom (like to marry who you want, smoke what you want, etc.) and wanting a little bit of government regulation to keep the corporations from going out of control automatically makes you a leftist.
don't forget, we now have laws protecting manufacturers in one and only one industry from product liability suits; gun manufacturers. and the president under whose administration that was put into law is depicted as wanting to disarm us all.
as you say, it's the old false equivalency gag; both "sides" of discourse have their lunatic fringes, but it's not symmetrical at all. in a country where leading presidential candidates of one party are suggesting religion-related curbs on immigration and/or refugee status, the fact that a handful (in my experience, fewer than the media make it seem) of loud louts on campus shout down Israeli and/or Jewish speakers is not exactly a counterbalance, for instance.
Right, so you're telling me the Affluenza kid is a democrat?
well he's coming in from mexico now, just like trump said.
And worst of all, they typically vote Democrat. You can mod this down if you want, but seriously, conservative kids aren't like that at all. They may get offended, but they don't pitch a fit about it like a two year old. Home-schooled kids are even better behaved. And both groups of kids have valid reasons to be offended by the way the culture has gone in this country. They just don't cry and whine about it, and they damned sure don't try to silence people they disagree with (like some on college campuses do).
do the words "brooks brothers riot" ring a bell? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... campus pc is just the minor leagues, when it comes to the serious things in life nothing says "right wing" more than getting your way by force. the fact that it is implicit more than explicit is just icing on the cake. the reason you see black kids complaining about white kids having blackface parties and you don't see white kids complaining about black kids having whiteface parties isn't that white kids are so much more tolerant, it's because black kids don't have whiteface parties.
Man, in today's college atmosphere...you could not have a Richard Pryor, George Carlin, Lenny Bruce or other great comedienne of the past (not THAT long past either).
Geez...WTF is with these young kids and their intolerance of everything that isn't happy happy, joy joy or Kumbaya (minus any religious associations of course).
When did everyone get so worried about someone being offended?
Is this the end result of everyone getting a fucking trophy as a kid just for showing up, and worrying about their fragile self esteem being nicked slightly?
Will everyone's ears bleed if they hear the word nigger or cracker or spic or wop or kraut or chink uttered?
They're words people...they won't hurt you. Grow a bit of skin and lighten up and quit looking to be offended.
in my elderly opinion, things on college have changed from when a lot of us were there; not just the pc thing, that's a symptom of the fact that colleges have very much become surrogate parents/ homes for students rather than educational institutions. a lot of that has to do with competition for market share; most colleges have more than enough applicants, but now they compete for "the right kind" of applicants who they can market to other applicants, much as tv channels want the right kind of viewers that they can market to advertisers; and part of that is making sure none of the kids get unhappy.
and that's all part of the change in college degrees from being something that you work your way towards and earn to being another commodity you purchase and basically just put in some time and work and keep from the school firing you.
and that's just part of the commodification of everything in life and the change of the duties of a citizen to being consumers. but i digress.
Not even 4 posts down and someone is defending the insane, thumb sucking, safe space needing, microagression fearing, losers that occupy campuses today.
good heavens! somebody on the internet has an opinion which differs from yours!
in this case, rather ironic of you to be ruffled.