If a tech support guy ever did that to me, I'd make sure he got fired for it. That is not doing your job, that is shirking your duty. If you're getting paid to do tech support, you better damn well be ready to give tech support, not say "RTFM, lamer."
If you can't explain the advantages of security without sounding paranoid, it's your problem, not the customer's.
Even the linked msn article doesn't support this interpretation of IPOs. It merely says that the middle men price it lower so the investors won't feel like they've been screwed when the overpriced stock drops like a rock after the IPO and refuse to do business with them in the future. It does not follow that somehow the little guy is getting screwed. This is just sensible business practice on the part of the investment bankers.
It's fine to want to keep "big business" in check, but if you just throw out absolutely anything that appears to support your case, you just look ridiculous.
Yes, obviously, to a consumer, the security of _your_ computer is more important to _you_ than _my_ reputation. On the other hand, my ability to continue to do business is important to me.
You don't have to have an abhorrent track record to get hacked. Sometimes you just get unlucky. Unfortunately, no one is going to be very understanding about bad luck and, like you, they'll assume it's my fault. That is exactly why I would want to deal with it quickly and quietly. I'd be pretty upset if some third party then went and blabbed to everyone about it afterwards.
I doubt that. Think about it. There's no way to notify all the users who visit the site without telling the entire world. Given the danger that would pose to a site's continued ability to do business, it's unlikely a court is going to find you negligent for failure to take such extreme measures.
While it might be the right thing to do to come completely clean about it, but the fact remains that the real guilty party is the virus writer or hacker. Again there's no way a court is going to find a company responsible for being hacked.
I suppose there's a lot to be said for open security policy, but people don't die from compromised serveritus.
If a site I ran was hacked, I sure wouldn't go out telling everyone about it, nor would I want anyone else to either. I'd want to handle things as quietly as possible, yet the article implies there's something wrong with that.
I remember when Mozilla would make my computer choke, but now it's quite speedy. Almost as fast as IE, but without the constant MSN hocking.
I have to admit, though. I never liked Firebird. The lack of proper MIME handling made the thing virtually useless to me, but Firefox is *much* better in that respect. Way to go, guys!
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i mean, not that's not obvious.... testing the spam whatever capacities of gmail? talk about lame...
but yeah, if you're thinking, woah, i know that kid. you know, the crazy punk guy who always went on about tard factories... well, that's not him.
just so you know.
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Pharmo companies would quickly establish joint research divisions to spread the cost. Also, this would happen in most industries, bringing real scientific research back from the corporation built grave.
You're confusing terms here; by my moral code, IP laws are immoral, hence I'm taking moral action by disregarding them (civil disobedience). I am doing something illegal though, not immoral.
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I'm against the 2 big evils as well, and there two ways to go... Anarchy, no one has any rights.. libertarian socialism, smack down the businesses, smack down gov't that want to take rights away.
The P!!! and it's preceding brethren are still all PPro-core (with improvements, obviously). Both the K6 and the PPro core are old, and they suck. The K6 sucks because it's FPU is crappy, and it's very data hungry (which is why with on die L2, it beats similar speed PIIs, and comes close to P!!!s), and the PPro mostly because it's old, and it doesn't scale well to high clock speeds without major voltage increases and die shrinks.
First off, we will get competition, but R&D would be done jointly by a given industry, to spread the cost around, and giving them money for quality control:P. It's just a different paradigm, one of cooperation, even if it is for gain in the end. Also, copyright stays, hence, brand. Money is backed up by the government, so unless that somehow vanishes I don't understand your assertion. As for the Soviet Union, it has commited much less war crimes than the post-WWII US gov't (read up on Chomsky and the like).
I've got more to say.. I think.. but it's not verbalizing itself:(
Logging content not only risks the common carrier status, but is a 'Bad Thing'. OTOH, logging connections makes sense, violates nobody's privacy and is still very useful. Joe logs in at time A, receives email with header B, etc..
Similar to what phone companies do, they have records of how long a call lasted, from whom, to whom, and no record of the call itself (I hope).
Word up!:) (or even Mod up.. that'll be the day) Totally agree about the logically correctness of that, but you miss a convenient point, that patents have become unconstitutional in US.. ie they no longer promote science. If we had just a copyright system, then companies, like for example auto manufacturers, would just have joint research facilities, and while this may mean slighly less profit overall, it means more science, more benefit for consumers; besides.. the government is supposed to be for the people *wink* not the businesses *sigh*
Suuure.. now did your lawyers tell you to say that, or are you on some low quality crack? Probably crack, since you don't seem to be bright enough to understand problems of IP law, not to mention free speech.
The hegemony being maintained is not just of government, but of business as well. The only thing changing is the balance of power between them. *dares to hope that people might be in charge sometime*
My house is physical, the movie is not, it's information which wants to be free. 'nuff said. I can take apart my copyrighted whatchamacalit and rebuild another, as long as I basically attribute the source (derived work), but IP laws (and MPAA lawyer whores) think that this is just as illegal as copying something I bought, when in reality, putting protection there in here first place is the illegal thing (in my mind).
Microsoft has not really been good for the computer industry, but your general thesis is right: Breakup is bad. We'll just have lots of companies with monopolies. What needs to happen is for MSFT to disclose APIs of all products, so they can actually be a commodity. So, If I want to integrate my company's browser with their OS, I can... If I want to to use ext2fs, I can make a patch. If I want my word processor to be integrated with Office. Well.. you get the picture. There.. monopoly broken.
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If a tech support guy ever did that to me, I'd make sure he got fired for it. That is not doing your job, that is shirking your duty. If you're getting paid to do tech support, you better damn well be ready to give tech support, not say "RTFM, lamer."
If you can't explain the advantages of security without sounding paranoid, it's your problem, not the customer's.
d'arcy here is a lady, mcc. perhaps you've seen them in class.
as for your question, it's adequately addressed in the parent. please reread.
Even the linked msn article doesn't support this interpretation of IPOs. It merely says that the middle men price it lower so the investors won't feel like they've been screwed when the overpriced stock drops like a rock after the IPO and refuse to do business with them in the future. It does not follow that somehow the little guy is getting screwed. This is just sensible business practice on the part of the investment bankers.
It's fine to want to keep "big business" in check, but if you just throw out absolutely anything that appears to support your case, you just look ridiculous.
Of course not! I figured I'd just find a cracked version! ;-P
Although I have to say, I'm sort of a mIRC fan. I'd rather have something a bit more Usar Friendly than bitchX on something like this.
How about IRC though? I mean, this is a fine consumer product with AIM and all that, but how about the geek cred?
I mean, even my dreamcast can run an IRC client.
Yes, obviously, to a consumer, the security of _your_ computer is more important to _you_ than _my_ reputation. On the other hand, my ability to continue to do business is important to me.
You don't have to have an abhorrent track record to get hacked. Sometimes you just get unlucky. Unfortunately, no one is going to be very understanding about bad luck and, like you, they'll assume it's my fault. That is exactly why I would want to deal with it quickly and quietly. I'd be pretty upset if some third party then went and blabbed to everyone about it afterwards.
I doubt that. Think about it. There's no way to notify all the users who visit the site without telling the entire world. Given the danger that would pose to a site's continued ability to do business, it's unlikely a court is going to find you negligent for failure to take such extreme measures.
While it might be the right thing to do to come completely clean about it, but the fact remains that the real guilty party is the virus writer or hacker. Again there's no way a court is going to find a company responsible for being hacked.
I suppose there's a lot to be said for open security policy, but people don't die from compromised serveritus.
If a site I ran was hacked, I sure wouldn't go out telling everyone about it, nor would I want anyone else to either. I'd want to handle things as quietly as possible, yet the article implies there's something wrong with that.
What's up with that?
I remember when Mozilla would make my computer choke, but now it's quite speedy. Almost as fast as IE, but without the constant MSN hocking.
I have to admit, though. I never liked Firebird. The lack of proper MIME handling made the thing virtually useless to me, but Firefox is *much* better in that respect. Way to go, guys!
i mean, not that's not obvious.... testing the spam whatever capacities of gmail? talk about lame...
but yeah, if you're thinking, woah, i know that kid. you know, the crazy punk guy who always went on about tard factories... well, that's not him.
just so you know.
http://world.std.com/~mhuben/libindex.ht ml
Just some helpful info for all...
"The road to hell is paved with good intentions"
Pharmo companies would quickly establish joint research divisions to spread the cost. Also, this would happen in most industries, bringing real scientific research back from the corporation built grave.
"The road to hell is paved with good intentions"
You're confusing terms here; by my moral code, IP laws are immoral, hence I'm taking moral action by disregarding them (civil disobedience). I am doing something illegal though, not immoral.
"The road to hell is paved with good intentions"
I'm against the 2 big evils as well,
and there two ways to go...
Anarchy, no one has any rights..
libertarian socialism, smack down
the businesses, smack down gov't
that want to take rights away.
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The P!!! and it's preceding brethren are still all PPro-core (with improvements, obviously). Both the K6 and the PPro core are old, and they suck. The K6 sucks because it's FPU is crappy, and it's very data hungry (which is why with on die L2, it beats similar speed PIIs, and comes close to P!!!s), and the PPro mostly because it's old, and it doesn't scale well to high clock speeds without major voltage increases and die shrinks.
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First off, we will get competition, but R&D would be done jointly by a given industry, to spread the cost around, and giving them money for quality control :P. It's just a different paradigm, one of cooperation, even if it is for gain in the end. Also, copyright stays, hence, brand. Money is backed up by the government, so unless that somehow vanishes I don't understand your assertion. As for the Soviet Union, it has commited much less war crimes than the post-WWII US gov't (read up on Chomsky and the like).
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I've got more to say.. I think.. but it's not verbalizing itself
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Amen brother! Same story here.
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Logging content not only risks the common carrier
status, but is a 'Bad Thing'. OTOH, logging
connections makes sense, violates nobody's privacy
and is still very useful. Joe logs in at time A,
receives email with header B, etc..
Similar to what phone companies do, they have
records of how long a call lasted, from whom,
to whom, and no record of the call itself (I hope).
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I hereby nominate adamk for most doggedly determined troll of year.
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Word up!:) (or even Mod up.. that'll be the day)
Totally agree about the logically correctness
of that, but you miss a convenient point, that
patents have become unconstitutional in US.. ie
they no longer promote science. If we had just
a copyright system, then companies, like for
example auto manufacturers, would just have joint
research facilities, and while this may mean
slighly less profit overall, it means more science,
more benefit for consumers; besides.. the
government is supposed to be for the people *wink*
not the businesses *sigh*
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"I'm not aware of any discussions I've had."
Suuure.. now did your lawyers tell you to say
that, or are you on some low quality crack?
Probably crack, since you don't seem to be
bright enough to understand problems of IP law,
not to mention free speech.
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The hegemony being maintained is not just of government, but of business as well. The only thing changing is the balance of power between them. *dares to hope that people might be in charge sometime*
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My house is physical, the movie is not, it's information which wants to be free.
'nuff said. I can take apart my copyrighted whatchamacalit and rebuild another,
as long as I basically attribute the source (derived work), but IP laws
(and MPAA lawyer whores) think that this is just as illegal as copying something I bought,
when in reality, putting protection there in here first place is the illegal thing (in my mind).
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Microsoft has not really been good for the computer industry, but your general thesis is right:
Breakup is bad. We'll just have lots of companies with monopolies.
What needs to happen is for MSFT to disclose APIs of all products, so they can actually be a commodity.
So, If I want to integrate my company's browser with their OS, I can... If I want to to use ext2fs, I can make a patch. If I want my word processor to be integrated with Office. Well.. you get the picture. There.. monopoly broken.
So to sum it up: Open the source... duh!
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