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It just wouldn't work.
Mailing lists would be completely shafted, and I for one would *not* pay any of these - I'm not in the US anyway, plus unless I was notified of the charge beforehand I would not consider myself liable (there is legal precedent for this.. that's why ATMs that charge you have to have 'you will be charged x for this transaction, do you want to continue or go to a bank that isn't so greedy' screens).
You'll never get into politics doing things like actually thinking about the problem:P
The only way such a list could be anonymous would be if the state sent all the spam for you, so you never see the list. Can't see that happening (but let's not give them ideas).
There's a way of making files so that Norton won't scan them... Symantec actually volunteered the information a couple of years ago until I pointed out that putting that in an opensource product would make expose the information to virus writers. Me and my big mouth... I should have just gone ahead and got the information & published it.
OTOH I still recommend that Norton is removed before using my (and any other) software.. it's junk and drags the machine down to a crawl. One place that I worked tried to force it on my desktop machine - I knew immediately because a 10 minute compile slowed to a 40 minute one (and the new icon gave it away)... ended up removing it daring them to complain (OTOH a week later they removed it from everyones machine once productivity went through the floor).
TB has never really scaled... it slows down as your inbox gets larger for example - now takes over 3 minutes to open one of my work inboxes (10,000+ messages).
Plus there's being unable to reply before it's downloaded the attachments to the message (you just get a blank email instead of the original text quoted).
Funnily enough the best for large stuff seems to be Outlook Express. Only that's basically unusable because it doesn't do quoting correctly and you have to manually edit the message (trying doing that when replying to a 500 line epic).
How things like ABS work are part of the theory exam, so all new drivers should know this.
Then there's the hazard awareness exam that stops you getting into the situation where you need to use it in the first place.
Add to that 40+ hours of lessons before you even get near a test, and we're pretty good in this country IMO.
btw. since ABS and power steering are so common drivers now learn in cars with them... there's no 'ye-olde' manual steering and sticky brake lessons any more.
If the sun is in your face you really don't want to be doing 70... and the pathetic sun visors they fit in cars really don't work as they're far too small.
Which is precisely why I wouldn't trust a car with one of these things... blaming the hall in which the test was conducted is not even a decent cop-out. If it doesn't work in *all* circumstances then it's more dangerous than not having it, because it gives a false sense of security.
Broadcom have been doing it for years, and nobody gave a shit then.. why now? It's going to be hard to test the GPL in court when willful infringement has been ignored.
Tesco is really trying hard not to be seen as evil... publicly supporting fair trade, organic, recyling (they've run a big ad campaign encouraging everyone to give their christmas cards to their nearest store) and not (apparently) having any of the labour market issues that walmart does.
Walmart is called Asda here (or more commonly 'Asda - a part of the Wal-Mart(tm) family' - now long they'll keep the old name for I don't know). The reputation of walmart is so poor that I know many people who refuse to set foot in an Asda even if they are cheaper.
Not true - religion was the catalyst for much of education before the 20th century... it's more introverted these days but still spends half its life reexamining and reinterpreting itself.
There's a certain kind of dogma that's popular in the US that seems to reject that... I suspect it's self defeating & will implode eventually - time will tell.
Most Christians would prefer the book of Romans simply not exist.
That really is the most utterly bizzare statement I've ever heard. Way to go for the offtopic trolls dude.
I've heard of people rejecting Song of Songs (ooh sex! scary!) and Ecclesiastes (just too damned confusing) before but Romans? It's at the heart of the new testament!
OTOH I think this thread is confusing religion with worldview. Religion is a worldview, science is a worldview - they're different though (in fact you can be a religions scientist).
I believe the world is round (although I've only ever seen pictures that could have been photoshopped), that the USA exists (even though I've never been there and they can do fantastic things with special effects these days), etc. All of these things are part of my worldview... they are not a religion.
A cheap product from china with a bizarre brand name made up by somebody who knows 10 words of english may actually have good engineering in it. At least that way you know exactly what you are getting.
Funny as I read that I was looking at the cover of my Cisco(tm)(r) branded power brick.
The thing has more chinese on it than english... btw. this is my third - the first two exploded.
So, in the interests of accuracy:
An expensive product from china with a bizarre brand name made up by somebody who knows 10 words of english may actually have good engineering in it. At least that way you know exactly what you are getting.
I find it hard to believe W2K is 15%.. maybe of the home market, but of the corporate (which is bigger, cash wise at least) W2K is still pretty much the standard. Hell, I still get grief for refusing to support Windows 95!. Companies often have a 10-15 year hardware replacement cycle and they don't replace operating systems...
I would certainly prefer this over the current system of drastic reductions for new release week and then overpriced until it has been out for 6 months.
I don't get how this is different to Apple. When the ipod was first released its price was utterly ludicrous... then they slowly dropped it.
Plus you could always get cheap ipods from discount dealers (it's always better to buy from someone other than the manufacturer if you want a good deal) so what is this 'standardised' pricing you're on about?
Standard DRM.
What's 'standard' about Apple DRM? It's their own in-house proprietary crap.
They can.. nothing stopping them selling the ipod for $50... they'd go bankcrupt rather fast though.
Most stores sell at the recommended price simply because it's a good profit margin and everyone else is selling at that price.. search around on the internet you can find cheap ipods from web stores that don't need the same margin.
Offer stuff for download for a fee, at or near broadcast time, in HD, and and I'd buy it. Basically what usenet does now but with the fee going to the right people.
I won't pay for 320x240 video no matter how cross platform it is... hopefully this is just the beta stage.
There's a lot of 27" HDTV sets now... they're coming down in price fast.
OTOH smaller than that the difference simply isn't visible - the screen in small enough that you'd have to be about 6 inches away to see the pixels anyway (I really miss my old 28" - it had a perfect picture & most of the time looked better than the 38" HD I have now).
It just wouldn't work.
Mailing lists would be completely shafted, and I for one would *not* pay any of these - I'm not in the US anyway, plus unless I was notified of the charge beforehand I would not consider myself liable (there is legal precedent for this.. that's why ATMs that charge you have to have 'you will be charged x for this transaction, do you want to continue or go to a bank that isn't so greedy' screens).
Tony
I'd guess i386 OS-X or Intel OS-X
There's nothing 'universal' about universal binaries - they're just two copies of the code compiled for different architectures and bundled.
You'll never get into politics doing things like actually thinking about the problem :P
The only way such a list could be anonymous would be if the state sent all the spam for you, so you never see the list. Can't see that happening (but let's not give them ideas).
Statistically you're *far* more likely to be abused by a family member than by someone you don't know.
You can't trust parents to be alone with their kids...
There's a way of making files so that Norton won't scan them... Symantec actually volunteered the information a couple of years ago until I pointed out that putting that in an opensource product would make expose the information to virus writers. Me and my big mouth... I should have just gone ahead and got the information & published it.
OTOH I still recommend that Norton is removed before using my (and any other) software.. it's junk and drags the machine down to a crawl. One place that I worked tried to force it on my desktop machine - I knew immediately because a 10 minute compile slowed to a 40 minute one (and the new icon gave it away)... ended up removing it daring them to complain (OTOH a week later they removed it from everyones machine once productivity went through the floor).
Just install firebird and you'll see that what people are telling you is true.
It's supported multiple SMTP servers for as long as I can remember... certainly 1.0. Hell, I couldn't use it if it didn't.
TB has never really scaled... it slows down as your inbox gets larger for example - now takes over 3 minutes to open one of my work inboxes (10,000+ messages).
Plus there's being unable to reply before it's downloaded the attachments to the message (you just get a blank email instead of the original text quoted).
Funnily enough the best for large stuff seems to be Outlook Express. Only that's basically unusable because it doesn't do quoting correctly and you have to manually edit the message (trying doing that when replying to a 500 line epic).
How things like ABS work are part of the theory exam, so all new drivers should know this.
Then there's the hazard awareness exam that stops you getting into the situation where you need to use it in the first place.
Add to that 40+ hours of lessons before you even get near a test, and we're pretty good in this country IMO.
btw. since ABS and power steering are so common drivers now learn in cars with them... there's no 'ye-olde' manual steering and sticky brake lessons any more.
If the sun is in your face you really don't want to be doing 70... and the pathetic sun visors they fit in cars really don't work as they're far too small.
Which is precisely why I wouldn't trust a car with one of these things... blaming the hall in which the test was conducted is not even a decent cop-out. If it doesn't work in *all* circumstances then it's more dangerous than not having it, because it gives a false sense of security.
Broadcom have been doing it for years, and nobody gave a shit then.. why now? It's going to be hard to test the GPL in court when willful infringement has been ignored.
Tesco is really trying hard not to be seen as evil... publicly supporting fair trade, organic, recyling (they've run a big ad campaign encouraging everyone to give their christmas cards to their nearest store) and not (apparently) having any of the labour market issues that walmart does.
Walmart is called Asda here (or more commonly 'Asda - a part of the Wal-Mart(tm) family' - now long they'll keep the old name for I don't know). The reputation of walmart is so poor that I know many people who refuse to set foot in an Asda even if they are cheaper.
Not true - religion was the catalyst for much of education before the 20th century... it's more introverted these days but still spends half its life reexamining and reinterpreting itself.
There's a certain kind of dogma that's popular in the US that seems to reject that... I suspect it's self defeating & will implode eventually - time will tell.
I like this new method!
I think I'll apply it to traffic lights. And slashdotters.
Most Christians would prefer the book of Romans simply not exist.
That really is the most utterly bizzare statement I've ever heard. Way to go for the offtopic trolls dude.
I've heard of people rejecting Song of Songs (ooh sex! scary!) and Ecclesiastes (just too damned confusing) before but Romans? It's at the heart of the new testament!
Either this is a clever troll along the lines of the FSM, or you are the biggest moron ever to walk the earth.
I'll choose to believe the first, because I don't believe even an IDer could swallow that kind of horseshit.
Some of the eastern religions are like that.
OTOH I think this thread is confusing religion with worldview. Religion is a worldview, science is a worldview - they're different though (in fact you can be a religions scientist).
I believe the world is round (although I've only ever seen pictures that could have been photoshopped), that the USA exists (even though I've never been there and they can do fantastic things with special effects these days), etc. All of these things are part of my worldview... they are not a religion.
A cheap product from china with a bizarre brand name made up by somebody who knows 10 words of english may actually have good engineering in it. At least that way you know exactly what you are getting.
Funny as I read that I was looking at the cover of my Cisco(tm)(r) branded power brick.
The thing has more chinese on it than english... btw. this is my third - the first two exploded.
So, in the interests of accuracy:
An expensive product from china with a bizarre brand name made up by somebody who knows 10 words of english may actually have good engineering in it. At least that way you know exactly what you are getting.
I find it hard to believe W2K is 15%.. maybe of the home market, but of the corporate (which is bigger, cash wise at least) W2K is still pretty much the standard. Hell, I still get grief for refusing to support Windows 95!. Companies often have a 10-15 year hardware replacement cycle and they don't replace operating systems...
I think only certain builds of Windows XP too.
I'm running XP here and it won't let me download it.
I would certainly prefer this over the current system of drastic reductions for new release week and then overpriced until it has been out for 6 months.
I don't get how this is different to Apple. When the ipod was first released its price was utterly ludicrous... then they slowly dropped it.
Plus you could always get cheap ipods from discount dealers (it's always better to buy from someone other than the manufacturer if you want a good deal) so what is this 'standardised' pricing you're on about?
Standard DRM.
What's 'standard' about Apple DRM? It's their own in-house proprietary crap.
Hell, what about XP support? :P
I browse to pack.google.com and it said 'I must be running XP do download' - which is exactly what I am running.
Google don't even support other MS OSs let alone OSX and Linux so this pack is not designed to be cross platform.
They can.. nothing stopping them selling the ipod for $50... they'd go bankcrupt rather fast though.
Most stores sell at the recommended price simply because it's a good profit margin and everyone else is selling at that price.. search around on the internet you can find cheap ipods from web stores that don't need the same margin.
Offer stuff for download for a fee, at or near broadcast time, in HD, and and I'd buy it. Basically what usenet does now but with the fee going to the right people.
I won't pay for 320x240 video no matter how cross platform it is... hopefully this is just the beta stage.
There's a lot of 27" HDTV sets now... they're coming down in price fast.
OTOH smaller than that the difference simply isn't visible - the screen in small enough that you'd have to be about 6 inches away to see the pixels anyway (I really miss my old 28" - it had a perfect picture & most of the time looked better than the 38" HD I have now).