Finding an image visually interesting is not enough to make it art. If we have a -25 degree Celcius night after a particularly mild and foggy day, then the next morning, all the trees have fascinating, delicate crystal structures on them. You could spend plenty of time marveling at the way they glisten and refract light in the sunrise. They are interesting to look at. But that doesn't make them art. They are simply a visually interesting product of the environment we live in. So are fractals.
On the contrary - the view of a particular sunrise is very much art. Temporary art, but it invokes much the same emotions that other good art does. The universe is very awe inspiring... it's definiately art.
To deny this somehow creates the idea that if someone then takes a photograph of something it magically becomes 'art' even though it hasn't changed at all, and the photographher has had no hand in its creation. Photography captures the art in nature - it doesn't create it.
Our local store actually had them on the shelves last year (probably someone ordered but never collected) - I managed to leaf through about 2 pages before realizing that without a serious maths degree (and possible a PhD in Greek) I'd have no chance of understanding more than 5% of it.
MySQL is my favourite example as they're really hardline in their GPL interpretation (read their site sometime... it's actually scary).
I have a library that can link with MySql.. It doesn't by default (in fact I use late binding so there's not even a reference there by default). I have no intention of distributing MySql at all. However according to the strict reading of the GPL (as interpreted on the MySql site) if one of the users then downloads the app - which contains both opensource and binary parts (most of the useful stuff is opensource... the binary is just a hook to make corporate types pay for support) that make s *me* in violation of the GPL.
Violation by proxy? It's *way* outside copyright law...
So what's a derived work? Is it really impossible to release a GPL COM object, or a GPL VB, Delphi, Java or C# application (since all of these are linked with non-GPL libraries that aren't distributed with the OS.. in fact pretty much anything but C/C++ can't actually be GPL'd if you take the GPL literally).
Is the C# runtime *really* a derived work of my hello world application?
I am one of those annoying parents who seeks to get things "banned" from school... First Amendment only when convenient.
You're doing the same thing though. Can't you see that?
Freedom of speech means the freedom of *anyone* to speak not just those that agree with you.
What is wrong for a day of silence for gay rerpression? It happens. Children should be tought that it is *wrong* to mistreat others because they do not agree with you. You probably wouldn't have any trouble with a day of silence for black repression. Anyone who did have a problem with that would (quite rightly IMO) be branded a racist. See the parallel?
What place does a "discussion" of oral sex have in high school?
That's the best place for it. Parents often don't talk about it because they're squeamish. The only other source of information your children have is their friends - and they *will* talk about it. A lot.
You're trying to deny others right to free speech so you can push your agenda. Using the first amendment as an excuse for doing that is quite frankly sick. You have a right to say what you say, but don't be surprised if everyone just sees the hypocracy and walks away.
There is no CAM available. You have to buy a Sky branded satellite decoder - and they can't receive anything *except* Sky.
Hopefully is ITV go FTA this year it'll open up the market for competition and things might change... for now they've got the market locked up tight though.
iTunes stays in business because it's almost 100% pure profit - there's no physical media to duplicate and they just need to pay for bandwidth (which is comparatively cheap in the quantities they're presumably using).
They only have to convince a small percentage of ipod users to use it and they make a fortune.
The latest gillette razor has a battery... it's just a gimmick (the razors for the 'battery' razor are twice the cost of standard ones and give exactly the same shave).
I tried it a couple of times.. it doesn't shave any better when vibrating but your hand goes numb after a while... the effect is so unpleasant I'm surprised they even tried to release it...
You're supposed to discharge batteries before recharging, or the memory effect progressively destroys them. Hell, the shop assistant even reminded me of that when I got my ipod.
Agreed. Contact the movie was totally two-dimensional. The book made a big deal of the social/religious/scientific impact of contact and was quite interesting.
You could definately be held liable for publishing such a book, but since you didn't tell the guy personally how to do it you'd have a better chance of getting away with it. Publishers also have good lawyers on staff. eg. It also depends on the magnitude of the crime - If you detailed instructions of how to build a bio-weapon which then gets used to lay waste to a large town saying 'it was a book!' isn't going to keep your ass out of camp xray (to which you can and will be sent without trial or and right of representation).
So if I give someone exact instructions to break into a bank, and they go and do it... I'm not liable? Like hell... I'll very likely go to jail for it unless I've got a *very* good lawyer.
In the same way if you knowingly point to illegal files you're liable.
This is not a web issue it's something that's been part of the legal system for centuries. Just like with patents, adding 'on the internet' to the description doesn't change anything.
Yes it is - In this country we get free call minutes on mobiles that cover mobile->mobile calls.
Most VOIP providers are 0836 numbers (45p/minute) which are more expensive than mobile phones.
TBH mobile has killed home VOIP anyway. Hardly anyone has landlines any more (I only have one because I need it for DSL), and mobile is really convenient, plus everyone has it.
Slashdot Mirror
Finding an image visually interesting is not enough to make it art. If we have a -25 degree Celcius night after a particularly mild and foggy day, then the next morning, all the trees have fascinating, delicate crystal structures on them. You could spend plenty of time marveling at the way they glisten and refract light in the sunrise. They are interesting to look at. But that doesn't make them art. They are simply a visually interesting product of the environment we live in. So are fractals.
On the contrary - the view of a particular sunrise is very much art. Temporary art, but it invokes much the same emotions that other good art does. The universe is very awe inspiring... it's definiately art.
To deny this somehow creates the idea that if someone then takes a photograph of something it magically becomes 'art' even though it hasn't changed at all, and the photographher has had no hand in its creation. Photography captures the art in nature - it doesn't create it.
You've actually read a Knuth book?
Our local store actually had them on the shelves last year (probably someone ordered but never collected) - I managed to leaf through about 2 pages before realizing that without a serious maths degree (and possible a PhD in Greek) I'd have no chance of understanding more than 5% of it.
MySQL is my favourite example as they're really hardline in their GPL interpretation (read their site sometime... it's actually scary).
I have a library that can link with MySql.. It doesn't by default (in fact I use late binding so there's not even a reference there by default). I have no intention of distributing MySql at all. However according to the strict reading of the GPL (as interpreted on the MySql site) if one of the users then downloads the app - which contains both opensource and binary parts (most of the useful stuff is opensource... the binary is just a hook to make corporate types pay for support) that make s *me* in violation of the GPL.
Violation by proxy? It's *way* outside copyright law...
I tried every form of my address I could think of, and it just said "Unable to understand".
It needs a help page saying what its valid address types are and what countries/states it covers.
So, unless you count TextEdit (yeah, I know some people do), there is no word processing included - and certainly no presentation programm.
Untrue.
The Mini comes with Appleworks 6, which has WP, Spreadsheet, Database and presentation (plus drawing and painting which I guess aren't too useful).
So what's a derived work? Is it really impossible to release a GPL COM object, or a GPL VB, Delphi, Java or C# application (since all of these are linked with non-GPL libraries that aren't distributed with the OS.. in fact pretty much anything but C/C++ can't actually be GPL'd if you take the GPL literally).
Is the C# runtime *really* a derived work of my hello world application?
I am one of those annoying parents who seeks to get things "banned" from school ... First Amendment only when convenient.
You're doing the same thing though. Can't you see that?
Freedom of speech means the freedom of *anyone* to speak not just those that agree with you.
What is wrong for a day of silence for gay rerpression? It happens. Children should be tought that it is *wrong* to mistreat others because they do not agree with you. You probably wouldn't have any trouble with a day of silence for black repression. Anyone who did have a problem with that would (quite rightly IMO) be branded a racist. See the parallel?
What place does a "discussion" of oral sex have in high school?
That's the best place for it. Parents often don't talk about it because they're squeamish. The only other source of information your children have is their friends - and they *will* talk about it. A lot.
You're trying to deny others right to free speech so you can push your agenda. Using the first amendment as an excuse for doing that is quite frankly sick. You have a right to say what you say, but don't be surprised if everyone just sees the hypocracy and walks away.
Sky is 100% proprietary.
There is no CAM available. You have to buy a Sky branded satellite decoder - and they can't receive anything *except* Sky.
Hopefully is ITV go FTA this year it'll open up the market for competition and things might change... for now they've got the market locked up tight though.
iTunes stays in business because it's almost 100% pure profit - there's no physical media to duplicate and they just need to pay for bandwidth (which is comparatively cheap in the quantities they're presumably using).
They only have to convince a small percentage of ipod users to use it and they make a fortune.
Pretty much. The GPL relies on copyright law. If you're not copying it has nothing to say:
"Activities other than copying, distribution and modification are not covered by this License; they are outside its scope."
(the rest of the license then goes on to contractict this quite openly, but that's a matter for the legal bods).
Sometimes I wonder if the GPL itself could be proven to be GPL incompatible...
One thing is it doesn't handle compilations correctly - it creates a new artist for every song on the album.
I reckon apple will fix it one day, but until then something else would be a good stopgap.
Why didn't they write a setuid wrapper that loaded/unloaded those specific modules?
Or, better, have a service that handles the static parts of the experiment and interacts with the modules.
That's kinda obvious.
If the system was perfect then we could do away with trials, lawyers and judges and just shoot the criminals.
The latest gillette razor has a battery... it's just a gimmick (the razors for the 'battery' razor are twice the cost of standard ones and give exactly the same shave).
I tried it a couple of times.. it doesn't shave any better when vibrating but your hand goes numb after a while... the effect is so unpleasant I'm surprised they even tried to release it...
You're supposed to discharge batteries before recharging, or the memory effect progressively destroys them. Hell, the shop assistant even reminded me of that when I got my ipod.
Agreed. Contact the movie was totally two-dimensional. The book made a big deal of the social/religious/scientific impact of contact and was quite interesting.
Count Duuku makes me think Count Duckula more than anything else...
You could definately be held liable for publishing such a book, but since you didn't tell the guy personally how to do it you'd have a better chance of getting away with it. Publishers also have good lawyers on staff. eg. It also depends on the magnitude of the crime - If you detailed instructions of how to build a bio-weapon which then gets used to lay waste to a large town saying 'it was a book!' isn't going to keep your ass out of camp xray (to which you can and will be sent without trial or and right of representation).
That's like saying to someone, "You know, I hear there are lots of drug dealers on the corner of 3rd and Main"...
No it isn't... it's like saying "Want some LSD? If you just go round this corner there's a guy that'll sell it to you"
For which you *would* be charged.
In many countries they *are* illegal.
So if I give someone exact instructions to break into a bank, and they go and do it... I'm not liable? Like hell... I'll very likely go to jail for it unless I've got a *very* good lawyer.
In the same way if you knowingly point to illegal files you're liable.
This is not a web issue it's something that's been part of the legal system for centuries. Just like with patents, adding 'on the internet' to the description doesn't change anything.
It was a typo... read 'or'.
Yes it is - In this country we get free call minutes on mobiles that cover mobile->mobile calls.
Most VOIP providers are 0836 numbers (45p/minute) which are more expensive than mobile phones.
TBH mobile has killed home VOIP anyway. Hardly anyone has landlines any more (I only have one because I need it for DSL), and mobile is really convenient, plus everyone has it.
Informative? It's a Yahoo messenger client!!!
This has nothing to do with VOIP.