I'm not sure why this international reaction surprises you. Barack Obama is a liberal man, and liberalism in American generally means that America should be more like Europe and less like America.
Why would you be modded out? Supporting Barack Obama is one of the sure ways to get good karma around here. Yeah, people moderate based on emotion, just like people vote based on emotion. Logic, qualifications, sound arguments... not so important if karma (or the presidency) is your goal.
Why exactly is Apple worried about people making different browsers/media players for the iPhone/iPod touch? They already paid the ~$250 for Safari/iPod player so why does it matter if they want to use VLC instead and use Opera to browse? They bought the hardware. I could understand them rejecting such projects as an Amazon MP3 store or something, but media players and browsers? Come on Apple, we already gave you our $$$ for that.
The point of the article is that we don't know whether Opera will be accepted or not. I'm inclined to think that Opera will be accepted (or at least the concept has been previously approved by Apple), so this is probably a pointless conversation.
What I mean is, I hope the Opera people aren't stupid enough to put resources toward developing an iPhone version of their browser without getting pre-approval from Apple that such a thing would be accepted. To my knowledge, nobody has yet tried to submit a browser to Apple, so it seems premature to thrown Apple under the bus until we really have a clue.
Not quite true. A lot of companies still design microprocessors from scratch.
For example, look at Chinese Longsoon CPUs, nanochip, OpenCores, and so on. I also know that several CPUs are designed from scratch in Russia.
And I think the fact that none of the rest of us have ever heard of those chips/companies proves the GP's point. Interesting, though. Thanks for sharing.
I second the notion that Thinkpads are ideal for Linux use, especially the ACPI support. Also, obviously a Dell model that comes with Linux will be good, too, but I don't usually recommend anything Dell...
Yeah. In my experience, Vista boots a little faster than Linux (I quad-boot Vista, Arch Linux, Gentoo, and FreeBSD). It takes about 30 seconds on my machine (Q6600, 2Gb ram, sata), one third of that time being the BIOS (this m/b has the longest startup ever) and Grub. If you want to count the time it takes to actually get to a ready desktop, I am going to have to say that Vista is much faster since (in my experience) X with Gnome or KDE takes quite a bit of time to startup.
(Note: I don't know, but I think that *buntu may boot faster than the varieties of Linux that I use which rely on the old System V-style boot scripts. I think I heard that *buntu has a more modern style of booting, but maybe that's not accurate... I'm sure someone can clarify... Obviously I'm too lazy and not interested enough to look it up myself.)
Vista runs well for me, but I'm not a normal user. I don't download toolbars or any junk like that. I don't have AV software either; that would just slow things down and I don't need it. Never had a security issue in over a year... and sometimes I forget to patch regularly. Come to think of it, I haven't patched in a few months now. I should do that... My router firewall helps out a lot.
All-in-all, I run a tight, disciplined ship as far as operating systems are concerned. I've said it before, but I much prefer Vista to XP. That said, I love my Gentoo and FreeBSD the most.:)
I think that you answered it yourself with the very next sentence:
The Debian release cycle is too long and uncertain so out comes Ubuntu.
So I guess if shorter release cycles is what people want, eventually we'll arrive at the rolling release strategy which we've had for years with Gentoo and Arch.
Having to deal with Ubuntu upgrades occasionally, I don't see the point of "releases" anymore. It's just an opportunity to dump a whole lot of changes at the user at one time, and problems often crop up no matter how good the release is supposed to be.
With a rolling release distro, I'm in control. I can use whatever strategy I want. If I want to always have the latest of every package, fine. Only want to upgrade a few packages (security updates)? Great. If something breaks, I know what packages are responsible because I didn't install some lump-sum monolithic update; easy fix. Want to deal with "upgrading" every six months? Not me.
Yeah! Down with George W. Bush and his drakonian administration!! I'm sick and tired of this good-for-nothing, warmongering, anti-human-rights preside... Oh. Bill Clinton? Yeah, I sure miss the 90's.
Yeah, I used to like and use NoScript. Then I realized that in order to make many websites usable at all, you have to enable Javascript anyway. I think NoScript is still fine for people who don't care how broken the web is (if a site doesn't work, just find another one right?), but I've found that for me, the potential of NoScript to increase security is limited, and it's just not worth the hastle.
Plus, it was really annoying when they recently started releasing a new minor version every other day or so. Amongst all the computers I use at work, school, home, whatever, it seemed like I was upgrading NoScript constantly. AdBlock Plus is all I really need nowadays, and BugMeNot is useful sometimes.
All of you former Gentoo users who found yourselves tweaking more than using your computer were obviously not using Gentoo correctly. I guess it's a matter of balance between power and self control. Just because you can easily tweak anything doesn't mean you should or need to. The principle of diminishing applies here just as well as anywhere. Smart users should know that balance.
Here's another way to look at it. You could use Ubuntu the same as you used to use Gentoo, but of course it wouldn't be as easy. Apparently you need the barriers of an OS that is more difficult to tweak in order to keep you on task. That's fine, but it seems unneccesary to me. It's probably the same reason that many people prefer Windows to linux (and let's be honest, there are many people who do prefer Windows to linux).
Yeah, it's a sad position for Apple. Either they fix their security vulnerabilities quickly and everyone cries about how they are killing jailbreaking because everyone knows they just want complete control over the iPhone... or they leave the door open a while and all of the sudden they are slow at plugging security holes.
But don't just use it as a drop-in replacement for centralized server development.
I disagree. You can take advantage of git's other positive aspects even if you manage a central repository: Common operations are speedy, local branching, and easy merges are all benefits you get by using git regardless of whether you take advantage of the distributed nature of git or not.
I won't go so far as to say that all other SCM is total crap, but having recently switched my code repositories to centralized git repositories, I certainly wouldn't go back or put a new project in anything else. It was so easy converting my previous repositories to git (preserving history) that I think many people can and should consider git as a "drop-in replacement" for other SCM.
The only reason I can think of to not go with git is (like the OP pointed out) the lack of nice UI tools (and premature Windows support). I can totally understand how this may be a show-stopper for many groups and projects, and that's fine. But to those groups or individuals not on Windows who aren't afraid of a few easy command-line programs, do yourself a favor and switch to git. Really, it's that much nicer.
One Kill Switch is used by Apple to shut down potential competitors; the other is used by Google to be responsible by removing any malware they may have inadvertently sold to customers...
Oops, you got a little irrational yourself at this point. Try a little harder to reign in your own fanboyism.
Lest you confuse anyone with this statement of FUD, Apple has never used the "kill switch," even when they had sold apps through their store that they later found to be contrary to the terms of service of the store. There is no evidence that Apple will use the kill switch in any other way than how Google will also use their kill switch: to remove dangerous apps.
I understand that it's popular here to find excuses to bash Apple, but don't assume an aura of rationality if you're just going to present misinformation. Unless you're just in it for the karma, in which case I say fine, whatever, have your kicks. It's slashdot, right?
Apple is also fond of pointing out that Macs are not PCs.
Apple has a monopoly on its own products. What a revelation.
Seriously, we probably could do without the third-grade analysis. I shouldn't have to explain that regardless of what kind of distinction Apple marketing wants to make between its product on those under the label of "PC" (other-branded computers running Windows), a Mac is obviously a personal computer competing in the personal computer market.
Well, the kernel makes a big difference, so I guess it's both technically true and meaningless to say that the only difference between the desktop and server editions is the packages.
The same is true for most other distros, too. Fedora/RHEL being the notable exception.
Interesting. You've played with Gentoo on the desktop, and you think you have a clue about its potential for use on a system for "actual work" online. Right. Sorry if I'm not entirely convinced, especially considering that many others of us are completely up to the task of administering Gentoo to do real work.
Congrats on your choice to run Ubuntu servers. I'm sure it will prove to be a solid platform for your needs. But don't presume to tell us which distros are or are not fit for "actual work" unless you have a clue.
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I'm not sure why this international reaction surprises you. Barack Obama is a liberal man, and liberalism in American generally means that America should be more like Europe and less like America.
Why would you be modded out? Supporting Barack Obama is one of the sure ways to get good karma around here. Yeah, people moderate based on emotion, just like people vote based on emotion. Logic, qualifications, sound arguments... not so important if karma (or the presidency) is your goal.
Good thing for Apple they are not even close to dominating the smartphone market.
Why exactly is Apple worried about people making different browsers/media players for the iPhone/iPod touch? They already paid the ~$250 for Safari/iPod player so why does it matter if they want to use VLC instead and use Opera to browse? They bought the hardware. I could understand them rejecting such projects as an Amazon MP3 store or something, but media players and browsers? Come on Apple, we already gave you our $$$ for that.
The point of the article is that we don't know whether Opera will be accepted or not. I'm inclined to think that Opera will be accepted (or at least the concept has been previously approved by Apple), so this is probably a pointless conversation.
What I mean is, I hope the Opera people aren't stupid enough to put resources toward developing an iPhone version of their browser without getting pre-approval from Apple that such a thing would be accepted. To my knowledge, nobody has yet tried to submit a browser to Apple, so it seems premature to thrown Apple under the bus until we really have a clue.
Not quite true. A lot of companies still design microprocessors from scratch.
For example, look at Chinese Longsoon CPUs, nanochip, OpenCores, and so on. I also know that several CPUs are designed from scratch in Russia.
And I think the fact that none of the rest of us have ever heard of those chips/companies proves the GP's point. Interesting, though. Thanks for sharing.
I second the notion that Thinkpads are ideal for Linux use, especially the ACPI support. Also, obviously a Dell model that comes with Linux will be good, too, but I don't usually recommend anything Dell...
Yeah. In my experience, Vista boots a little faster than Linux (I quad-boot Vista, Arch Linux, Gentoo, and FreeBSD). It takes about 30 seconds on my machine (Q6600, 2Gb ram, sata), one third of that time being the BIOS (this m/b has the longest startup ever) and Grub. If you want to count the time it takes to actually get to a ready desktop, I am going to have to say that Vista is much faster since (in my experience) X with Gnome or KDE takes quite a bit of time to startup.
:)
(Note: I don't know, but I think that *buntu may boot faster than the varieties of Linux that I use which rely on the old System V-style boot scripts. I think I heard that *buntu has a more modern style of booting, but maybe that's not accurate... I'm sure someone can clarify... Obviously I'm too lazy and not interested enough to look it up myself.)
Vista runs well for me, but I'm not a normal user. I don't download toolbars or any junk like that. I don't have AV software either; that would just slow things down and I don't need it. Never had a security issue in over a year... and sometimes I forget to patch regularly. Come to think of it, I haven't patched in a few months now. I should do that... My router firewall helps out a lot.
All-in-all, I run a tight, disciplined ship as far as operating systems are concerned. I've said it before, but I much prefer Vista to XP. That said, I love my Gentoo and FreeBSD the most.
I think that you answered it yourself with the very next sentence:
The Debian release cycle is too long and uncertain so out comes Ubuntu.
So I guess if shorter release cycles is what people want, eventually we'll arrive at the rolling release strategy which we've had for years with Gentoo and Arch.
Having to deal with Ubuntu upgrades occasionally, I don't see the point of "releases" anymore. It's just an opportunity to dump a whole lot of changes at the user at one time, and problems often crop up no matter how good the release is supposed to be.
With a rolling release distro, I'm in control. I can use whatever strategy I want. If I want to always have the latest of every package, fine. Only want to upgrade a few packages (security updates)? Great. If something breaks, I know what packages are responsible because I didn't install some lump-sum monolithic update; easy fix. Want to deal with "upgrading" every six months? Not me.
You're right. It looks like this is definitely the year of Linux on the desktop... again.
You're looking at the stats backwards. Win2k is going down... The only ones going up are Vista, Mac OS X, and Linux.
Read this article from an intellectually honest democrat.
Why would that kill your karma? You should know that Bush-bashing and the like is the fastest way to get excellent karma around here...
Yeah! Down with George W. Bush and his drakonian administration!! I'm sick and tired of this good-for-nothing, warmongering, anti-human-rights preside... Oh. Bill Clinton? Yeah, I sure miss the 90's.
Yeah, I used to like and use NoScript. Then I realized that in order to make many websites usable at all, you have to enable Javascript anyway. I think NoScript is still fine for people who don't care how broken the web is (if a site doesn't work, just find another one right?), but I've found that for me, the potential of NoScript to increase security is limited, and it's just not worth the hastle.
Plus, it was really annoying when they recently started releasing a new minor version every other day or so. Amongst all the computers I use at work, school, home, whatever, it seemed like I was upgrading NoScript constantly. AdBlock Plus is all I really need nowadays, and BugMeNot is useful sometimes.
All of you former Gentoo users who found yourselves tweaking more than using your computer were obviously not using Gentoo correctly. I guess it's a matter of balance between power and self control. Just because you can easily tweak anything doesn't mean you should or need to. The principle of diminishing applies here just as well as anywhere. Smart users should know that balance.
Here's another way to look at it. You could use Ubuntu the same as you used to use Gentoo, but of course it wouldn't be as easy. Apparently you need the barriers of an OS that is more difficult to tweak in order to keep you on task. That's fine, but it seems unneccesary to me. It's probably the same reason that many people prefer Windows to linux (and let's be honest, there are many people who do prefer Windows to linux).
It's in Gentoo; I have been using it for a few days...
Yep. I like it. Interesting, not only is it in the official portage repository, but it's in stable. Firefox 3 isn't even in stable yet...
Yeah, it's a sad position for Apple. Either they fix their security vulnerabilities quickly and everyone cries about how they are killing jailbreaking because everyone knows they just want complete control over the iPhone... or they leave the door open a while and all of the sudden they are slow at plugging security holes.
But don't just use it as a drop-in replacement for centralized server development.
I disagree. You can take advantage of git's other positive aspects even if you manage a central repository: Common operations are speedy, local branching, and easy merges are all benefits you get by using git regardless of whether you take advantage of the distributed nature of git or not.
I won't go so far as to say that all other SCM is total crap, but having recently switched my code repositories to centralized git repositories, I certainly wouldn't go back or put a new project in anything else. It was so easy converting my previous repositories to git (preserving history) that I think many people can and should consider git as a "drop-in replacement" for other SCM.
The only reason I can think of to not go with git is (like the OP pointed out) the lack of nice UI tools (and premature Windows support). I can totally understand how this may be a show-stopper for many groups and projects, and that's fine. But to those groups or individuals not on Windows who aren't afraid of a few easy command-line programs, do yourself a favor and switch to git. Really, it's that much nicer.
One Kill Switch is used by Apple to shut down potential competitors; the other is used by Google to be responsible by removing any malware they may have inadvertently sold to customers...
Oops, you got a little irrational yourself at this point. Try a little harder to reign in your own fanboyism.
Lest you confuse anyone with this statement of FUD, Apple has never used the "kill switch," even when they had sold apps through their store that they later found to be contrary to the terms of service of the store. There is no evidence that Apple will use the kill switch in any other way than how Google will also use their kill switch: to remove dangerous apps.
I understand that it's popular here to find excuses to bash Apple, but don't assume an aura of rationality if you're just going to present misinformation. Unless you're just in it for the karma, in which case I say fine, whatever, have your kicks. It's slashdot, right?
Apple is also fond of pointing out that Macs are not PCs.
Apple has a monopoly on its own products. What a revelation.
Seriously, we probably could do without the third-grade analysis. I shouldn't have to explain that regardless of what kind of distinction Apple marketing wants to make between its product on those under the label of "PC" (other-branded computers running Windows), a Mac is obviously a personal computer competing in the personal computer market.
I've never seen those problems with Office, nor have I ever heard of anyone else having those problems... Weird.
Well, the kernel makes a big difference, so I guess it's both technically true and meaningless to say that the only difference between the desktop and server editions is the packages.
The same is true for most other distros, too. Fedora/RHEL being the notable exception.
Interesting. You've played with Gentoo on the desktop, and you think you have a clue about its potential for use on a system for "actual work" online. Right. Sorry if I'm not entirely convinced, especially considering that many others of us are completely up to the task of administering Gentoo to do real work.
Congrats on your choice to run Ubuntu servers. I'm sure it will prove to be a solid platform for your needs. But don't presume to tell us which distros are or are not fit for "actual work" unless you have a clue.