Mac or Linux or Solaris users don't have problems a typical Windows user has...
I've found that the people who know for a fact that Windows is a superior system to Unixy systems do not use anything but Windows, and don't know how to use anything else. Using and maintaining both, its no contest. Windows is brittle, and you have problems you don't have with anything else.
Hey! How about the Apple Fanboy factor? Fortunately tht kind of tips your hand.
Well here we go. We employed a division of people to keep the PC's running.
One person to keep the Mac's running. That was me. I also filled in with the PC's for the suits. But even I spent at least 5 times the effort on fixing PC problems as I did Macs
The Windows machines really needed that army of IT people because they had constant problems. You can't deny it even with your silly printer counterexample. You see, your argument falls apart when dealing with someone that has equal experience. This is an estimate, but we had around 1 guy per hundred Macs, and around 1 person for every 20 PC's.
Fanbois....teee hee!
We had an entire division of people tasked with keeping the Windows machines running. Macs? Me.
As well, the Macs tended to last at least 1.5 sometimes 2 times longer before they were obsolete.
So yes, the Windows machines were a little cheaper to buy. But once the upgrades were done, then the new ones were bought, and the never ending strem of IT work requests for the windows machines, it wasn't even close.
There are uncooperative employees (although very few in my personal experience), and there are requests that have to be attended to immediately. There's also jobs that require concentration, and aren't really compatible with instant attention to every email. Over my career, I've had more problems from interruptions than from colleagues.
I've had horrific times with interruptions, including what I call Job assignment by being seen in the hallway. Meanwhile the colleague issues tend to sort themselves out pretty quickly. Not everyone needs instant attention, and sure as hell not everyone wants to work in that environment. But it has its rewards. People who need a slower pace get moved to places where their need can be satisfied.
Oh my god, so he has heterosexual contact with willing participants of the opposite sex?! What a horrible person he is, he should be burned at the stake for being a heterosexual white male.
So if Trump came up and grabbed your wife's cunt, you'd say hey, no problem.
Seriously what the fuck is the matter with you? A person who says sexual assault is just boys being boys, has some serious problems, And let's say you have a prepubescent daughter, and someone came up to you and told you she was hot and he couldn't wait to fuck her in a few years. That's also boys being boys.
Are you or have you ever been an anti-vaxxer?
If yes, you are blacklisted.
Sounds like you think resorting to McCarthism is ok as long as you agree with the reasons for it.
Its "McCarthyism", and such an interesting term since the head of the anti-vaxxer movement is one Jenny McCarthy, a woman who isn't a doctor, and her main claim to fame is that she has photos taken of her while not wearing clothing.
You mistake politics for science. "McCarthyism" was a modern day witch hunt, using early cold-war paranoia about communism to advance a political carreer. It destryed the lives of a number of people, including it's perpetrator.
Anti-vaxxing is an unscientific plan to take advantage of the emotional aspects of children with disabilities by blaming it on an unrelated activity. Oddly enough, it ignores that unvaccinated children sometimes die as a result of its adherents.
Are you insane?
Apparentley there is no more freedom in opinion in Australia, and also no more freedom of speech.
You mistake freedom of speech with the reactions to that free speech. This confuses some people, who think that you can say anything you damn well please - like physical threats against politicians - and that everyone has to sit by and not react to that.
The problem of course is that the person making bizzare claims does not have the right to squelch the responses made to those claims. This is because everyone has the right - not just them.
And in the medical profession, there are laws, regulations, and guidelines they must adhere to.
We don't see many Christian Scientist doctors because their belief system precludes almost all medicines. In your imaginary loudest person wins world, a Christian scientist can be declared a medical doctor just by saying "I am a doctor, My medical training is complete and from the Holy Bible"
Sorry, but Anti-Vaxx is an opinion that is not backed up by facts, and has no place in a discipline based upon biology. It was created by a researcher in tandem with a lawyer who was trying to take advantage the almost inevitable guilty verdict that results when a child is involved against the medical profession. That's the reason that there aren't many medicines approved for pregnant women - too much liability exposure in all phases, from testing to administering.
So anti-vaxxing is a legitimate opinion, but neither valid, nor having a place in modern medicine. There are faith healing circus tent attractions to go to where that opinion is welcome. Otherwise we have to allow bloodletting and birth control by the woman drinking Mercury (ancient Chinese method)
That has nothing to do with it.
Everybody has the right to his own opinion and has the freedom to express the same.
Including nurses.
There are some opinions that disqualify you to be certain professions. If you want to be an anti-vaxxer, be a liberal crystal lovin' housewife or a conservative bible banger who doesn't believe in medicine at all. Side note - surveys have shown that left/right ideology is around an even mix in anti-vaxxers.
There are some opinions that just stink. Because polio isn't an opinion, whooping cough isn't an opinion, measles isn't an opinion. One's opinions do not make them unreal
No one (sane) questions whether solar works or not.
I'm inclined to agree, but I get a lot of the "it won't work" responses on Slashdot.
It's a pretty straightforward technology, and it's intuitively ideal for reducing demand during peak hours, typically the middle of the work day. There are, however, questions about whether the economics make sense without government subsidies, which is where we'd like to eventually end up, I think.
Certainly. But since technology desn't stay in one place, That situation willt change. The economies of scale can make some pretty complex and involved processes very inexpensive. I was shocked to see that a lot of solar installations are even going in place in Alaska. Now while it's true that the really long nights of winter render the cells pretty useless, they allow them to save a lot of money on diesel fuel, and can stockpile it during the summer for those winter days. In the summer they have a lot of sunlight.
I'm big on alternative energy, and was still surprised to see an economic solution to a big logistics problem in that neck of the woods.
Some will remain opposed for various reasons, and no amount of progress will change that.
Also these installations are being subsidized by the federal government for tax credits. So they are really not doing this to be green but to save tax dollars at the expenses of the American public.
Now tlk to me me about petroleum subsidies and releasing nuc plants form liability. Even transportation ethanol gets yuge subsidies.
Target has already had a 19% decline in stock price this year alone. They are definitely not in a profitable mode. If i was a stock holder i'd be questioning why they are spending all this money to install solar panels and not trying to improve there profit by selling their retail goods. Sounds like the TGT board needs to be more focused on their core business.
Musta been those solar panels, eh? Everyone knows that the sun doesn't shine after dark.
You told him implicitly that immediate responses are more important than actually getting work done.
Maybe reinforcing other people's sense of their own importance is the work.
There is something to be said for that. Often, the more important the work, the more you have to jump to do it. It was important to get the info to me. The guy I had to get info from needed to realize that. And the way it unfolded was the guy went potato on me immediately - telling me what he would or wouldn't do for me. A visit from the Top Boss will convince you of the importance of your work pretty quickly.
There's a conflict there, between your employee getting serious work done and you getting your answers. You told the guy that he has to pay immediate attention to each incoming email, lest it be one of yours that you want an immediate reply to. You told him implicitly that immediate responses are more important than actually getting work done. People do pick up on those things.
I worked for the director. The director often needed things he was assigned by his boss in a few hours.
I sometimes had only a few minutes. Dude didn't even want to answer the phone. If I had half a day or more, I might be able to email. His work was giving me the answers I needed. If I didn't get them quickly, the Director catches hell, I catch hell, and I eventually find that the guy might be better off working in a different place.
So yes, I have to respond immediately, so I need immediate access to my resources. He was a person who was suppoesd to be a resource.
Now, if you'd told him you want answers in a few hours, your employee could concentrate for a couple of hours and then take care of email. That's a much more reasonable schedule for any job that requires concentration.
A few hours, and the plane has left. Not all jobs are the sort we can "dilly-dally" on. Not the sort of job for everyone, but rewarding for the right person.
In the workplace, I've found greater than 50 percent of people believe they're doing you a favor when they do their job, and can get quite grouchy when asked to do it. I see a lot of that in here.
One time years ago, I travelled across the country to get needed footage for a informational video on one of our projects that I was producing for our director, and the people he answered to. Tight deadline. The group out there working on it gave me shit from day one, and were remarkably uncooperative. For the first week, I put up with it, because hey - I was an outsider and it probably would take a while to get used to me. But starting the second week, with the cooperation level dropping further. I called a general meeting of the group. I calmly explained that this video was an important part of their project, and that I was following the director's orders on what was included and not included (the guys really didn't want to wear lab coats) and it was not a negotiable item for the director.
I then went on to say - not quite as calmly - that they had one of two choices. "You can put on the goddamned fucking lab coats and quit bitching about it, and start cooperating, or I will call the guy we were all working for as soon as we are done, and tell him we're a week behind and he needs to fly across the country tomorrow, and tell you in person that you have to wear the fucking lab coats."
They discussed the matter for a minute, and decided that lab coats were actually a pretty good idea - makes you look professional and all. And all apologized for giving me a bag of shit as well.
Tl;DR version - not all jobs are the sort that have no appreciable deadline.
Wow, that's a real eye opener, I am glad you brought that up Igor. That Clinton Foundation is obviously using charity work as cover for evil crook bad business.
Yup. For all of the anticipation of the killer revelations, there is precious little beef in all of this stuff.
Some have noted that these leaks serve more as boring day to day workstuff that ends up either boring for us or even helping Clinton.
And that's the problem - even the server debacle pales in comparison to the bankruptcies, the grab her pussy crap, the (alleged) rape and (alleged)sexual assaults and fascinating allies and inciting to violence of the other party in this sad silly season election.
In the end, the bogus debates on SNL and the real one in Las Vegas became blurry, especially when Lord Pepe' noted that "No one respects women more than me" which got an admonition to the audience from the moderator, and apparently the mics on the audience were turned down/off.
And now, "Nasty woman" has become a new meme, as she owned Lord Pepe'.
I suppose that words mean what we mean them to, and the dictionary is correct to include the imprecise definition number two. But that doesn't make the usage correct.
Good gawd man, you really should make certain to tell them they are wrong. Otherwise I have no idea how to reply to you!
I think the intelligence that the GP petulantly called for was to recognize that words have shades of meaning and that "bribe" was not chosen for accuracy.
They just offered him money to keep his mouoth shut. Call it a fuckengruven if you want. It was money to keep his mouth shut, and it was a bribe.
Now lets look at this from the Article
"Two employees from Samsung Electronics showed up at his house later that day, he said, offering a new Note 7 and about $900 in compensation on the condition that he keep the video private.
You can call it what you like. I call it a bribe. Whatever particular word we use does not change that Samsung offered him money to not say anything about his fiery Phone.
A person who goes to work exchanges work for money.
A bribed person exchanges something that the person doing the bribing either wants out, or wants to remain secret.
I do however suspect that our not quite accurate pedants, really, really, really love Android phones, Samsung in particular, hate Apple, and are trying to obscure the argument and the truth that the Galaxy Note 7 is a rather dangerous device.
So they do what every person backed into a corner does. They deflect by trying to change the subject.
More of the happy Samsungs and their side effects here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?... The fire starting~ 7:03 is interesting, being caught burning. Lot's of popping smoke and flames.
Some folks have taken the time honored tactic of denying the problem exists, as happened in here early on. Problem is, with security cams all over creation, its a little difficult to play the deny, deny, deny game any more. Even the replacement phones catch fire.
As an aside, can you imagine the unholy shitstorm that would be making the rounds if any of this were happening to Apple ?
Exploding iPhones... The internet might not cope with that, and then Apple bribing people to keep quiet about the whole thing ? We might have a singularity event...
Look at what those fuckers from Apple have done. https://www.youtube.com/watch?... A man's new iphone 7, caught on fire, and burnt this Jeep up. Rumors it was caused by the lack of a headphone jack.
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Mac or Linux or Solaris users don't have problems a typical Windows user has ...
I've found that the people who know for a fact that Windows is a superior system to Unixy systems do not use anything but Windows, and don't know how to use anything else. Using and maintaining both, its no contest. Windows is brittle, and you have problems you don't have with anything else.
How about the Apple Fanbois factor?
Hey! How about the Apple Fanboy factor? Fortunately tht kind of tips your hand.
Well here we go. We employed a division of people to keep the PC's running.
One person to keep the Mac's running. That was me. I also filled in with the PC's for the suits. But even I spent at least 5 times the effort on fixing PC problems as I did Macs
The Windows machines really needed that army of IT people because they had constant problems. You can't deny it even with your silly printer counterexample. You see, your argument falls apart when dealing with someone that has equal experience. This is an estimate, but we had around 1 guy per hundred Macs, and around 1 person for every 20 PC's. Fanbois....teee hee!
As well, the Macs tended to last at least 1.5 sometimes 2 times longer before they were obsolete.
So yes, the Windows machines were a little cheaper to buy. But once the upgrades were done, then the new ones were bought, and the never ending strem of IT work requests for the windows machines, it wasn't even close.
There are uncooperative employees (although very few in my personal experience), and there are requests that have to be attended to immediately. There's also jobs that require concentration, and aren't really compatible with instant attention to every email. Over my career, I've had more problems from interruptions than from colleagues.
I've had horrific times with interruptions, including what I call Job assignment by being seen in the hallway. Meanwhile the colleague issues tend to sort themselves out pretty quickly. Not everyone needs instant attention, and sure as hell not everyone wants to work in that environment. But it has its rewards. People who need a slower pace get moved to places where their need can be satisfied.
old pussy grabber's
Oh my god, so he has heterosexual contact with willing participants of the opposite sex?! What a horrible person he is, he should be burned at the stake for being a heterosexual white male.
So if Trump came up and grabbed your wife's cunt, you'd say hey, no problem.
Seriously what the fuck is the matter with you? A person who says sexual assault is just boys being boys, has some serious problems, And let's say you have a prepubescent daughter, and someone came up to you and told you she was hot and he couldn't wait to fuck her in a few years. That's also boys being boys.
You're one sick fuck, Good day sir.
Polio isn't eradicated, it has been renamed.
And that name is?
I'd just like to see some rationality out of the faction that that claims the subsidies were "hardly necessary" in the past,
Who claimed they were "hardly necessary"?
Are you or have you ever been an anti-vaxxer? If yes, you are blacklisted.
Sounds like you think resorting to McCarthism is ok as long as you agree with the reasons for it.
Its "McCarthyism", and such an interesting term since the head of the anti-vaxxer movement is one Jenny McCarthy, a woman who isn't a doctor, and her main claim to fame is that she has photos taken of her while not wearing clothing.
You mistake politics for science. "McCarthyism" was a modern day witch hunt, using early cold-war paranoia about communism to advance a political carreer. It destryed the lives of a number of people, including it's perpetrator.
Anti-vaxxing is an unscientific plan to take advantage of the emotional aspects of children with disabilities by blaming it on an unrelated activity. Oddly enough, it ignores that unvaccinated children sometimes die as a result of its adherents.
It isn't politics - its science.
Are you insane? Apparentley there is no more freedom in opinion in Australia, and also no more freedom of speech.
You mistake freedom of speech with the reactions to that free speech. This confuses some people, who think that you can say anything you damn well please - like physical threats against politicians - and that everyone has to sit by and not react to that.
The problem of course is that the person making bizzare claims does not have the right to squelch the responses made to those claims. This is because everyone has the right - not just them.
And in the medical profession, there are laws, regulations, and guidelines they must adhere to.
We don't see many Christian Scientist doctors because their belief system precludes almost all medicines. In your imaginary loudest person wins world, a Christian scientist can be declared a medical doctor just by saying "I am a doctor, My medical training is complete and from the Holy Bible"
Sorry, but Anti-Vaxx is an opinion that is not backed up by facts, and has no place in a discipline based upon biology. It was created by a researcher in tandem with a lawyer who was trying to take advantage the almost inevitable guilty verdict that results when a child is involved against the medical profession. That's the reason that there aren't many medicines approved for pregnant women - too much liability exposure in all phases, from testing to administering.
So anti-vaxxing is a legitimate opinion, but neither valid, nor having a place in modern medicine. There are faith healing circus tent attractions to go to where that opinion is welcome. Otherwise we have to allow bloodletting and birth control by the woman drinking Mercury (ancient Chinese method)
That has nothing to do with it. Everybody has the right to his own opinion and has the freedom to express the same. Including nurses.
There are some opinions that disqualify you to be certain professions. If you want to be an anti-vaxxer, be a liberal crystal lovin' housewife or a conservative bible banger who doesn't believe in medicine at all. Side note - surveys have shown that left/right ideology is around an even mix in anti-vaxxers.
There are some opinions that just stink. Because polio isn't an opinion, whooping cough isn't an opinion, measles isn't an opinion. One's opinions do not make them unreal
All humans are to be depicted as Meseeks.
No one (sane) questions whether solar works or not.
I'm inclined to agree, but I get a lot of the "it won't work" responses on Slashdot.
It's a pretty straightforward technology, and it's intuitively ideal for reducing demand during peak hours, typically the middle of the work day. There are, however, questions about whether the economics make sense without government subsidies, which is where we'd like to eventually end up, I think.
Certainly. But since technology desn't stay in one place, That situation willt change. The economies of scale can make some pretty complex and involved processes very inexpensive. I was shocked to see that a lot of solar installations are even going in place in Alaska. Now while it's true that the really long nights of winter render the cells pretty useless, they allow them to save a lot of money on diesel fuel, and can stockpile it during the summer for those winter days. In the summer they have a lot of sunlight.
I'm big on alternative energy, and was still surprised to see an economic solution to a big logistics problem in that neck of the woods.
Some will remain opposed for various reasons, and no amount of progress will change that.
Also these installations are being subsidized by the federal government for tax credits. So they are really not doing this to be green but to save tax dollars at the expenses of the American public.
Now tlk to me me about petroleum subsidies and releasing nuc plants form liability. Even transportation ethanol gets yuge subsidies.
Target has already had a 19% decline in stock price this year alone. They are definitely not in a profitable mode. If i was a stock holder i'd be questioning why they are spending all this money to install solar panels and not trying to improve there profit by selling their retail goods. Sounds like the TGT board needs to be more focused on their core business.
Musta been those solar panels, eh? Everyone knows that the sun doesn't shine after dark.
While deniers continue to say that solar simply doesn't work, stores doing this seem to still be making profit.
You told him implicitly that immediate responses are more important than actually getting work done.
Maybe reinforcing other people's sense of their own importance is the work.
There is something to be said for that. Often, the more important the work, the more you have to jump to do it. It was important to get the info to me. The guy I had to get info from needed to realize that. And the way it unfolded was the guy went potato on me immediately - telling me what he would or wouldn't do for me. A visit from the Top Boss will convince you of the importance of your work pretty quickly.
There's a conflict there, between your employee getting serious work done and you getting your answers. You told the guy that he has to pay immediate attention to each incoming email, lest it be one of yours that you want an immediate reply to. You told him implicitly that immediate responses are more important than actually getting work done. People do pick up on those things.
I worked for the director. The director often needed things he was assigned by his boss in a few hours.
I sometimes had only a few minutes. Dude didn't even want to answer the phone. If I had half a day or more, I might be able to email. His work was giving me the answers I needed. If I didn't get them quickly, the Director catches hell, I catch hell, and I eventually find that the guy might be better off working in a different place.
So yes, I have to respond immediately, so I need immediate access to my resources. He was a person who was suppoesd to be a resource.
Now, if you'd told him you want answers in a few hours, your employee could concentrate for a couple of hours and then take care of email. That's a much more reasonable schedule for any job that requires concentration.
A few hours, and the plane has left. Not all jobs are the sort we can "dilly-dally" on. Not the sort of job for everyone, but rewarding for the right person.
In the workplace, I've found greater than 50 percent of people believe they're doing you a favor when they do their job, and can get quite grouchy when asked to do it. I see a lot of that in here.
One time years ago, I travelled across the country to get needed footage for a informational video on one of our projects that I was producing for our director, and the people he answered to. Tight deadline. The group out there working on it gave me shit from day one, and were remarkably uncooperative. For the first week, I put up with it, because hey - I was an outsider and it probably would take a while to get used to me. But starting the second week, with the cooperation level dropping further. I called a general meeting of the group. I calmly explained that this video was an important part of their project, and that I was following the director's orders on what was included and not included (the guys really didn't want to wear lab coats) and it was not a negotiable item for the director.
I then went on to say - not quite as calmly - that they had one of two choices. "You can put on the goddamned fucking lab coats and quit bitching about it, and start cooperating, or I will call the guy we were all working for as soon as we are done, and tell him we're a week behind and he needs to fly across the country tomorrow, and tell you in person that you have to wear the fucking lab coats."
They discussed the matter for a minute, and decided that lab coats were actually a pretty good idea - makes you look professional and all. And all apologized for giving me a bag of shit as well.
Tl;DR version - not all jobs are the sort that have no appreciable deadline.
Yes, the Saudis gave about $10 million for the Clinton Presidential Library. But they gave the same amount for George H. W. Bush's library.
That was okay though.
Don't stop him, he's on a roll.
Hell, I'm having poppcorn for breakfast today. Pepe' is running at full dudgeon!
I guess it's a morality question you have to answer for yourself. Is donating blood money a net moral good?
Are 2 children helped in Africa helped by the Clinton Foundation worth the homosexual that was hung by some Saudis?
Do you seriously want to go there?
Wow, that's a real eye opener, I am glad you brought that up Igor. That Clinton Foundation is obviously using charity work as cover for evil crook bad business.
Yup. For all of the anticipation of the killer revelations, there is precious little beef in all of this stuff.
Some have noted that these leaks serve more as boring day to day workstuff that ends up either boring for us or even helping Clinton.
And that's the problem - even the server debacle pales in comparison to the bankruptcies, the grab her pussy crap, the (alleged) rape and (alleged)sexual assaults and fascinating allies and inciting to violence of the other party in this sad silly season election.
In the end, the bogus debates on SNL and the real one in Las Vegas became blurry, especially when Lord Pepe' noted that "No one respects women more than me" which got an admonition to the audience from the moderator, and apparently the mics on the audience were turned down/off.
And now, "Nasty woman" has become a new meme, as she owned Lord Pepe'.
I suppose that words mean what we mean them to, and the dictionary is correct to include the imprecise definition number two. But that doesn't make the usage correct.
Good gawd man, you really should make certain to tell them they are wrong. Otherwise I have no idea how to reply to you!
I think the intelligence that the GP petulantly called for was to recognize that words have shades of meaning and that "bribe" was not chosen for accuracy.
They just offered him money to keep his mouoth shut. Call it a fuckengruven if you want. It was money to keep his mouth shut, and it was a bribe.
Now lets look at this from the Article
"Two employees from Samsung Electronics showed up at his house later that day, he said, offering a new Note 7 and about $900 in compensation on the condition that he keep the video private.
You can call it what you like. I call it a bribe. Whatever particular word we use does not change that Samsung offered him money to not say anything about his fiery Phone.
The pedantry is strong with this one...
Almost as strong as the lack of logic.
A person who goes to work exchanges work for money.
A bribed person exchanges something that the person doing the bribing either wants out, or wants to remain secret.
I do however suspect that our not quite accurate pedants, really, really, really love Android phones, Samsung in particular, hate Apple, and are trying to obscure the argument and the truth that the Galaxy Note 7 is a rather dangerous device.
So they do what every person backed into a corner does. They deflect by trying to change the subject.
More of the happy Samsungs and their side effects here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?... The fire starting~ 7:03 is interesting, being caught burning. Lot's of popping smoke and flames.
Some folks have taken the time honored tactic of denying the problem exists, as happened in here early on. Problem is, with security cams all over creation, its a little difficult to play the deny, deny, deny game any more. Even the replacement phones catch fire.
Why not both ?
As an aside, can you imagine the unholy shitstorm that would be making the rounds if any of this were happening to Apple ?
Exploding iPhones... The internet might not cope with that, and then Apple bribing people to keep quiet about the whole thing ? We might have a singularity event...
Look at what those fuckers from Apple have done. https://www.youtube.com/watch?... A man's new iphone 7, caught on fire, and burnt this Jeep up. Rumors it was caused by the lack of a headphone jack.
Oh silly me, I was wrong, it was a Galaxy Note 7.