In either case, the phrase "check your privilege" is appropriate.
And with that, we have finally decoded your stance. You want everyone brought down to the same level, and anything that emphasizes our differences must be destroyed because you want everyone to be the same.
I've always wondered about the Check your privilege crowd. Allow me an example.
Some background - embarassing confession time. I find Sophia Vergara to be incredibly attractive. Aside from her obvious beauty and physical presence, she is as smart as a whip. All of which combine to make me a big fan. I've seen her in an old T-shirt and no makeup - doesn't matter.
So I myself, and I figure a lot of guys, would find her presence at this silly party much more - umm, interesting than "scantily clad dancers". Even in a T-shirt and baggy sweatpants.
So does the "Check your privilege" crowd want to ban Sophia Vergara from ever showing up in public?
If you don't like it, just scroll on. No need to comment, or read other comments. If you know they make you angry and you don't want them, why do you do it? I know I don't like the content of goats.cx, so I avoid looking at it. Is it really that hard?
Because a complaint is a gift. Yes, it's easy to simply say "If you don't like something, just shut up and do something you like. Sometimes that involves going away - and that is the other half of my complaint. You figure that Slashdot should be the battleground between anything that engenders sexual attraction?
There are plenty of places on the internet where people can talk all day about gender based (fill in the blank) and microagressions and triggers. If I want some of that wholesome goodness, I can go there. I don't even mind a few gender issue stories. But consider that at some point they garner a backlash among people who might ordinarily be supportive.
What I can say is how Apple compares with Dell, which I've used almost exclusively at work for about 15 years. Apple was certainly worse.
I've used both for a lot of years as well. Oddly, my experience was not at all like yours, I've waved goodby to many many as in hundreds of failed Dells from the leaky filter cap debacle. Macs? a couple.
Download VMware or whatever.
Make a VM.
Install Windows onto the VM.
At the first setup screen, before you create a username, hit CTRL+SHIFT+F3 to enter System Audit Mode.
Get it updated, install your borwsers, dickbutt.exe, and whatever else you use.
Shut it down using the Sysprep dialog box that is in your face. Choose "Enter System Audit Mode" with an action of "Shut Down". Do NOT check the "generalize" checkbox.
Boot it and patch it every Patch Tuesday.
If you ever need to install Windows, take a snapshot of the VM. Boot the VM. Using the Sysprep dialog box, tell it to enter OOBE and check the "generalize" checkbox. Tell it to shutdown.
You can now use a ton of different tools to take that Windows install and capture it as a deployable image on any hardware.
System Center / Windows Deployment Services / etc. have Windows PE tools that will do this. Other tools exist, though I have not used them. I believe booting to an Acronis disc or similar will let you do the same deal.
After you capture the image using whatever method is easiest according to Google at the time you need to do it, revert the snapshot on the VM to undo the "generalize" step (which decrements your activation rearm count). There are other hacks to reset this count after you run out of rearms, but they're not clean and can break Windows Update.
For your 8007000E error, simply hit "check for updates" until you get the error, then reboot, then do it again. Last I checked, a machine will encounter this error 3 times before Windows Update works.
Sounds great, until your wife gets freaked out because the Macbook that's 6 months old has a logic board failure right before we were doing a backup and all our newborn's baby photos are on the drive that the Genius says "well, this is definitely not a hard drive issue but there's no guarantee you'll get your HD back if we send it in for warranty repair"..
Huh? Damn - what are teh Windows computers you get that never ever fail?
My favorite was a 2 week old Toshiba of my son's that I took to the repair counter. The "service" was to give me a xerox copy of the service center I had to send it to.
Then he turned around and continued his discussion with the other techs. Presumably about how shitty Macs were.
Look, if the left is going to constantly use argument like 97% percent of scientists agree, and the economy is great because 5%, or women only make 5% of what men make doing the same job, or 1 out of 5 dogs will be raped in doggy daycare, or machine guns kill millions of children in the US every day, the time for letting them get away with those methods is over.
Oh seriously left or right, you're a fucking liar.
Having been wrong 99 times in the past in exactly similar situations is not an argument against something?
Correct.
In a formal, logical sense you are right. But as the philosopher David Hume said (I am paraphrasing just a bit): "The fact that the sun has come up yesterday, and the day before, and so on every day we remember is not proof that the sun will come up tomorrow. But it is a very persuasive indicator."
So Malthus will always be wrong? The world can sustain an infinite number of people forever?
And when all jobs are taken by automation, everyone will be employed.
That's ridiculous. So let's not argue ridiculous things
For my own thoughts, we probably will end up as societies with a lot more lesiure time. And eventually it will be a good thing for humanity.
But y'all are glossing over the different disruptions that have happend as if they never happened. Unless we do some amazing prep, this one will be more bloody than the others. After all those 99 other times hat you folks have been very accurately cited, dismissing did have some serious upheaval with people dying,
Having been wrong 99 times in the past in exactly similar situations is not an argument against something?
I have a coin I've been flipping. 99 times in a row, it came up heads.
What are the odds it will come up heads on the 100th flip?
Its like saying Malthus was wrong a few times, so he will always be wrong. Which menas the earth can support infinite numbers of people forever.
I'm jut hoping that cool heads will prevail with this change. Because if the 75 percent of jobs lost to automation comes true, http://issues.org/30-3/stuart/ the impact will make those other 99 times (if I told you once, I've told you a million times not to exaggerate) look like a walk in the park. That's a whole lot of the new replacement jobs to make.
Running a business with no employees inevitably results in a business with no customers (because people without incomes won't be customers).
You are talking in absolutes: black and white. The real world is shades of gray. What about a business with FEWER employees? Guess what? This happens!
Imagine making a car these days without ANY robots.
You kinda went off the shades of gray path yourself. There may be some folks arguing for a return to the woods subsistance living where you produced or were set out to freeze in the winter.
It's the one sidedness of it all. A fast food place with no employees. Imagine that. If successful, there might be many more.
And I believe this is going to happen, unless we get some oddball form of governance that makes up jobs. My argument isn't that it shouldn't be done, because we live in a world where business does not have a moral compass. If people die in the pursuit of profit, then they will die. Whatever, its just how things work.
The prospect of almost everyone out of work with no social plan at all is frightening, and if you don't think it's frightening, you aren't paying attention.
We are already in the stage where the youngest and oldest are having issues. If you are terminated past 50, and don't have an excellent skill set, you are most likely never working again. Or if you do, you're now a greeter or stockperson at Walmart, removing an entry level job from a young person.
And really, we do not want a large number of unemployed young males with a lot of time on their hands? No - we don't.
to which I will respond that Mr Puzder has no responsibility for those other businesses, and his choices don't affect them. We can be sure that somebody will move to robots, and they'll gain a competitive advantage, either driving Mr Puzder to quit or to do the same thing.
No, we do actually get it. Mr Puzler is not responsible. You are 100 percent correct.
ther really cool thing is, if in a hypothetical situation, everyone gets rid of all their employees, and the whole industry collapses, no one at all is responsible, Innocent as teh day they were born.
A good gig if you can get it.
Seriously, we understand 100 percent that you don't hold him responsible for shortsighted and unltimately self destructive actions.
There is a really beg problem though.
We do. You might not like that, but we do. It's an ultimately self destructive decision, and if it was a company that I held shares in, I'd be howling.
Old Heny Ford had a lot of strange ideas, but the idea of having employees who could buy stuff wasn't one of them.
Dear whiplash
It is time for some transparency here: did this article even passed through the firehose? People actually voted for it? Maybe times changed and people here are voting for this kind of article to the front page but, otherwise, it would be a great update, maybe the greatest, to go back to the roots of "News for Nerds, stuff that matter".
You raise a very good question. Who does approve these stories? It would seem that they are terribly unpopular, and most people who comment are mostly people who are simply annoyed at yeat another in a long line of stories that always condense down to all males are disgusting pigs.
I've been here for a bit as well, and this topic is the sewer of Slashdot something I hope would have diminished after Dice gave up the ghost.
It isn't that it is not ever news for nerds, but if anyone is foolish enough ot think that this constant reportage of whining is going to help things, they are not even wrong.
This entire thread is based on a false idea that if people are thrown out of minimum wage jobs that they'll be unemployed forever.
This has been proven countless times since the 1700's to be absolutely false.
And because Malthus has been wrong a few times, that means that the earth can support an infinite number of people forever.
The problem is that there are already people who will never work again. Laid off from small town mills and manufacturing as their jobs. No where to go to get another job. Packing up and moving? Where? To get what job? These are 50 something year olds, who even if they get some sort of job training, who is going to hire an entry level worker who is near retirement age.
So what do they do? Untill we decide to go Logan's Run on people, or maybe Hunger games or simple target practice, we've allowed them on Social Security Disability. Which by the way, conveniently removes them from the unemployment picture.
http://www.thisamericanlife.or...http://www.npr.org/sections/mo...
Once a technological innovation disrupts employment - the loom, the cotton gin, the computer, the combine planter/harvester, the robot - those who were displaced from employment find new jobs in higher paying sectors, at least in the aggregate.
Okay, what are the new jobs going to be. You've set up an inviolable truth, that all innivation will create new work. Elucidate. Teach those who are wrong, wrong because being wrong in the past means (according to you) the premise will always be wrong. You can try to diminish the argument all day long that way, but do what I did, Present some evidence of what ex fast food workers will do when there are no fast food work jobs any more.
Which by the way, sounds an awful lot like saying tht since man wasn't created to fly, he never will fly.
This is going to happen, but there needs to be something for the new leisure class to do. You need to tell us what that is.
That shouldn't be amazing. No matter what happens in other businesses, or society as a whole, Puzder is still making the optimal choice for himself.
For this moment, maybe.
So now that the optimum situation is to have no employees, we need a plan of what to do with the number one enemy of the corporate state, the human taker.
Do we line 'em up and shoot them?
Do we pay higher taxes to support them?
Then who on earth do we sell our stuff to?
Taxes are almost as unacceptable as employees, so I guess we start lining people up. Investor tip! Fertilizers will be a growth industry.
There is an old adage about people eating their seed corn.
Modern corporate "no employees" outlook is like that, only they are purposely getting rid of customers.
The most "unfunny" part of bus rides is that they often goes in a zig-zag pattern all over the city between origin and destination causing the average speed to be slower than a bicycle..
This! I once tried to use our local bus system to get back and forth to to work.
So to catch the bus, I had to either leave work at 4:20 to catch a 4:30 bus or leave at 5:00 to catch a 5:30 bus. Leaving at 4:20 wasn't an option, so I waited a half hour. Then the bus went downtown and on campus then headed north to a shopping center and supermarket, then finally to my neighborhood, but that zig zagging meant yet more time. Finally, I got home at around 7:15. Kinda sucks when a 45 minute walk is replaced by a 2 hour plus process.
Indeed. Miama, New Orleans, Venice - those places will all be underwater. But this change is inexorable - I think that people should not build new oceanfront property in those places!
But they don't believe that they will ever change. Remember, once that people can be convinced to reject global warming, they can reject sea level rise, they can reject plate tectonics. Hell, rejecting all science is the new truth today. So build build build! Those eggheads and their sea level rise, they're just socialists trying to keep real estate agents from making money.
And as I've had to explain to many people, adapting doesn't men that you and your family change. It means you and your family and 99 percent of everyone dies, and the rest are left to reproduce.
99%? Do you always use hyperbole in your explanations?
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In either case, the phrase "check your privilege" is appropriate.
And with that, we have finally decoded your stance. You want everyone brought down to the same level, and anything that emphasizes our differences must be destroyed because you want everyone to be the same.
I've always wondered about the Check your privilege crowd. Allow me an example.
Some background - embarassing confession time. I find Sophia Vergara to be incredibly attractive. Aside from her obvious beauty and physical presence, she is as smart as a whip. All of which combine to make me a big fan. I've seen her in an old T-shirt and no makeup - doesn't matter.
So I myself, and I figure a lot of guys, would find her presence at this silly party much more - umm, interesting than "scantily clad dancers". Even in a T-shirt and baggy sweatpants.
So does the "Check your privilege" crowd want to ban Sophia Vergara from ever showing up in public?
If you don't like it, just scroll on. No need to comment, or read other comments. If you know they make you angry and you don't want them, why do you do it? I know I don't like the content of goats.cx, so I avoid looking at it. Is it really that hard?
Because a complaint is a gift. Yes, it's easy to simply say "If you don't like something, just shut up and do something you like. Sometimes that involves going away - and that is the other half of my complaint. You figure that Slashdot should be the battleground between anything that engenders sexual attraction?
There are plenty of places on the internet where people can talk all day about gender based (fill in the blank) and microagressions and triggers. If I want some of that wholesome goodness, I can go there. I don't even mind a few gender issue stories. But consider that at some point they garner a backlash among people who might ordinarily be supportive.
Just a concerned Slashdot user.
Oh, and vote for Trump, who will end this crap.
+5 Non sequitur.
What I can say is how Apple compares with Dell, which I've used almost exclusively at work for about 15 years. Apple was certainly worse.
I've used both for a lot of years as well. Oddly, my experience was not at all like yours, I've waved goodby to many many as in hundreds of failed Dells from the leaky filter cap debacle. Macs? a couple.
So we have a couple data points.
Download VMware or whatever. Make a VM. Install Windows onto the VM.
At the first setup screen, before you create a username, hit CTRL+SHIFT+F3 to enter System Audit Mode. Get it updated, install your borwsers, dickbutt.exe, and whatever else you use. Shut it down using the Sysprep dialog box that is in your face. Choose "Enter System Audit Mode" with an action of "Shut Down". Do NOT check the "generalize" checkbox.
Boot it and patch it every Patch Tuesday.
If you ever need to install Windows, take a snapshot of the VM. Boot the VM. Using the Sysprep dialog box, tell it to enter OOBE and check the "generalize" checkbox. Tell it to shutdown.
You can now use a ton of different tools to take that Windows install and capture it as a deployable image on any hardware. System Center / Windows Deployment Services / etc. have Windows PE tools that will do this. Other tools exist, though I have not used them. I believe booting to an Acronis disc or similar will let you do the same deal.
After you capture the image using whatever method is easiest according to Google at the time you need to do it, revert the snapshot on the VM to undo the "generalize" step (which decrements your activation rearm count). There are other hacks to reset this count after you run out of rearms, but they're not clean and can break Windows Update.
For your 8007000E error, simply hit "check for updates" until you get the error, then reboot, then do it again. Last I checked, a machine will encounter this error 3 times before Windows Update works.
That's how I taught Grandma to do it.
Fool me once, shame on you! Fool me twice, shame on me.
FTFY - No one wants to screw you. Not even your mother.
Nothing beats Friday night on Slashdot.
I can imagine thousands of people running to look at the underside of their lappies right about now.
Sounds great, until your wife gets freaked out because the Macbook that's 6 months old has a logic board failure right before we were doing a backup and all our newborn's baby photos are on the drive that the Genius says "well, this is definitely not a hard drive issue but there's no guarantee you'll get your HD back if we send it in for warranty repair". .
Huh? Damn - what are teh Windows computers you get that never ever fail? My favorite was a 2 week old Toshiba of my son's that I took to the repair counter. The "service" was to give me a xerox copy of the service center I had to send it to.
Then he turned around and continued his discussion with the other techs. Presumably about how shitty Macs were.
Look, if the left is going to constantly use argument like 97% percent of scientists agree, and the economy is great because 5%, or women only make 5% of what men make doing the same job, or 1 out of 5 dogs will be raped in doggy daycare, or machine guns kill millions of children in the US every day, the time for letting them get away with those methods is over.
Oh seriously left or right, you're a fucking liar.
Having been wrong 99 times in the past in exactly similar situations is not an argument against something?
Correct.
In a formal, logical sense you are right. But as the philosopher David Hume said (I am paraphrasing just a bit): "The fact that the sun has come up yesterday, and the day before, and so on every day we remember is not proof that the sun will come up tomorrow. But it is a very persuasive indicator."
So Malthus will always be wrong? The world can sustain an infinite number of people forever?
And when all jobs are taken by automation, everyone will be employed.
That's ridiculous. So let's not argue ridiculous things
For my own thoughts, we probably will end up as societies with a lot more lesiure time. And eventually it will be a good thing for humanity.
But y'all are glossing over the different disruptions that have happend as if they never happened. Unless we do some amazing prep, this one will be more bloody than the others. After all those 99 other times hat you folks have been very accurately cited, dismissing did have some serious upheaval with people dying,
Having been wrong 99 times in the past in exactly similar situations is not an argument against something?
I have a coin I've been flipping. 99 times in a row, it came up heads.
What are the odds it will come up heads on the 100th flip? Its like saying Malthus was wrong a few times, so he will always be wrong. Which menas the earth can support infinite numbers of people forever.
I'm jut hoping that cool heads will prevail with this change. Because if the 75 percent of jobs lost to automation comes true, http://issues.org/30-3/stuart/ the impact will make those other 99 times (if I told you once, I've told you a million times not to exaggerate) look like a walk in the park. That's a whole lot of the new replacement jobs to make.
You are talking in absolutes: black and white. The real world is shades of gray. What about a business with FEWER employees? Guess what? This happens!
Imagine making a car these days without ANY robots.
You kinda went off the shades of gray path yourself. There may be some folks arguing for a return to the woods subsistance living where you produced or were set out to freeze in the winter.
It's the one sidedness of it all. A fast food place with no employees. Imagine that. If successful, there might be many more.
And I believe this is going to happen, unless we get some oddball form of governance that makes up jobs. My argument isn't that it shouldn't be done, because we live in a world where business does not have a moral compass. If people die in the pursuit of profit, then they will die. Whatever, its just how things work.
The prospect of almost everyone out of work with no social plan at all is frightening, and if you don't think it's frightening, you aren't paying attention.
We are already in the stage where the youngest and oldest are having issues. If you are terminated past 50, and don't have an excellent skill set, you are most likely never working again. Or if you do, you're now a greeter or stockperson at Walmart, removing an entry level job from a young person.
And really, we do not want a large number of unemployed young males with a lot of time on their hands? No - we don't.
to which I will respond that Mr Puzder has no responsibility for those other businesses, and his choices don't affect them. We can be sure that somebody will move to robots, and they'll gain a competitive advantage, either driving Mr Puzder to quit or to do the same thing.
No, we do actually get it. Mr Puzler is not responsible. You are 100 percent correct.
ther really cool thing is, if in a hypothetical situation, everyone gets rid of all their employees, and the whole industry collapses, no one at all is responsible, Innocent as teh day they were born.
A good gig if you can get it.
Seriously, we understand 100 percent that you don't hold him responsible for shortsighted and unltimately self destructive actions.
There is a really beg problem though.
We do. You might not like that, but we do. It's an ultimately self destructive decision, and if it was a company that I held shares in, I'd be howling.
Old Heny Ford had a lot of strange ideas, but the idea of having employees who could buy stuff wasn't one of them.
I'm a lesbian trapped in a mans body! So those ladies would appeal to me regardless.
Dear whiplash It is time for some transparency here: did this article even passed through the firehose? People actually voted for it? Maybe times changed and people here are voting for this kind of article to the front page but, otherwise, it would be a great update, maybe the greatest, to go back to the roots of "News for Nerds, stuff that matter".
You raise a very good question. Who does approve these stories? It would seem that they are terribly unpopular, and most people who comment are mostly people who are simply annoyed at yeat another in a long line of stories that always condense down to all males are disgusting pigs.
I've been here for a bit as well, and this topic is the sewer of Slashdot something I hope would have diminished after Dice gave up the ghost.
It isn't that it is not ever news for nerds, but if anyone is foolish enough ot think that this constant reportage of whining is going to help things, they are not even wrong.
Kinda sucks when a 45 minute walk is replaced by a 2 hour plus process.
A 45 minute walk would only be about 2-3 miles. I question what bus system would take 2 hours to go that short of a distance.
It was 4 miles. And yeah, I question how they did the route as well.
This entire thread is based on a false idea that if people are thrown out of minimum wage jobs that they'll be unemployed forever.
This has been proven countless times since the 1700's to be absolutely false.
And because Malthus has been wrong a few times, that means that the earth can support an infinite number of people forever.
The problem is that there are already people who will never work again. Laid off from small town mills and manufacturing as their jobs. No where to go to get another job. Packing up and moving? Where? To get what job? These are 50 something year olds, who even if they get some sort of job training, who is going to hire an entry level worker who is near retirement age.
So what do they do? Untill we decide to go Logan's Run on people, or maybe Hunger games or simple target practice, we've allowed them on Social Security Disability. Which by the way, conveniently removes them from the unemployment picture. http://www.thisamericanlife.or... http://www.npr.org/sections/mo...
Once a technological innovation disrupts employment - the loom, the cotton gin, the computer, the combine planter/harvester, the robot - those who were displaced from employment find new jobs in higher paying sectors, at least in the aggregate.
Okay, what are the new jobs going to be. You've set up an inviolable truth, that all innivation will create new work. Elucidate. Teach those who are wrong, wrong because being wrong in the past means (according to you) the premise will always be wrong. You can try to diminish the argument all day long that way, but do what I did, Present some evidence of what ex fast food workers will do when there are no fast food work jobs any more.
Which by the way, sounds an awful lot like saying tht since man wasn't created to fly, he never will fly.
This is going to happen, but there needs to be something for the new leisure class to do. You need to tell us what that is.
Soylent green, yo...
And after that, we'll all eat cake.
Hope those machines buy his crappy food...
They can save even more if they automate the CEO position.
Sorry Andy, you've been replaced by C3PO.
That shouldn't be amazing. No matter what happens in other businesses, or society as a whole, Puzder is still making the optimal choice for himself.
For this moment, maybe.
So now that the optimum situation is to have no employees, we need a plan of what to do with the number one enemy of the corporate state, the human taker.
Do we line 'em up and shoot them?
Do we pay higher taxes to support them?
Then who on earth do we sell our stuff to?
Taxes are almost as unacceptable as employees, so I guess we start lining people up. Investor tip! Fertilizers will be a growth industry. There is an old adage about people eating their seed corn.
Modern corporate "no employees" outlook is like that, only they are purposely getting rid of customers.
The most "unfunny" part of bus rides is that they often goes in a zig-zag pattern all over the city between origin and destination causing the average speed to be slower than a bicycle..
This! I once tried to use our local bus system to get back and forth to to work.
So to catch the bus, I had to either leave work at 4:20 to catch a 4:30 bus or leave at 5:00 to catch a 5:30 bus. Leaving at 4:20 wasn't an option, so I waited a half hour. Then the bus went downtown and on campus then headed north to a shopping center and supermarket, then finally to my neighborhood, but that zig zagging meant yet more time. Finally, I got home at around 7:15. Kinda sucks when a 45 minute walk is replaced by a 2 hour plus process.
Then get a big bat as in baseball bat and beat them :D
Hmm, sounds awfully tempting. I'd make sure it wasn't weasels in the bag first. Weasels are awesome.
Indeed. Miama, New Orleans, Venice - those places will all be underwater. But this change is inexorable - I think that people should not build new oceanfront property in those places!
But they don't believe that they will ever change. Remember, once that people can be convinced to reject global warming, they can reject sea level rise, they can reject plate tectonics. Hell, rejecting all science is the new truth today. So build build build! Those eggheads and their sea level rise, they're just socialists trying to keep real estate agents from making money.
And as I've had to explain to many people, adapting doesn't men that you and your family change. It means you and your family and 99 percent of everyone dies, and the rest are left to reproduce.
99%? Do you always use hyperbole in your explanations?
99 percent might be conservative
http://news.nationalgeographic...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
The idea that human population may have nearly gone extinct at least once ~ 2000 humans left in the world makes for some interesting discussion.
And as I've had to explain to many people... It means you and your family and 99 percent of everyone dies...
That seems like a perfectly reasonable thing to tell people.
Actually, most seem to think they'll be the few that survive.