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Sexism Is Still a Thing At Microsoft's GDC Party (techcrunch.com)
An anonymous reader writes from an article on TechCrunch: Microsoft hired a bunch of women wearing very little clothing to dance and socialize with people at the company's official Game Developers Conference after-party last night in San Francisco, Business Insider reports. Phil Spencer, head of Xbox, said in a statement to TechCrunch. "At Xbox-hosted events at GDC this past week, we represented Xbox and Microsoft in a way that was not consistent or aligned to our values. It was unequivocally wrong and will not be tolerated. I know we disappointed many people and I'm personally committed to holding ourselves to higher standards. We must ensure that diversity and inclusion are central to our everyday business and core values. We will do better in the future." What's problematic is that Microsoft chose to throw a party that clearly caters to heterosexual men by hiring women as objects of sex.
And what about the lesbian women?
That's a twofer right there.
If this is sexism then I don't want equality. Humans are creatures of sex and women at this event are getting compensated for their performance. What's the problem?
I see nothing whatsoever wrong about this arrangement.
Okay, I get it. It's a good idea to cater to as many possible audiences as possible.
This isn't always possible. Especially with the combative nature of several audiences nowadays.
But why is it okay to clearly cater to heterosexual females, or homosexual men, or homosexual females? But, cater to heterosexual men nowadays and YOU ARE WRONG AND BAD!
I'm sorry but fuck that noise. Every product and every promotion isn't going to appeal to every demographic. DEAL WITH IT!
Seriously, it's gotten to such an idiotic point that it's okay to be anything BUT a heterosexual male nowadays.
Chas - The one, the only.
THANK GOD!!!
But of course they're going to leave all the sexiness to the financial sector. The tech world can go back to being too stuck up to party. Welcome to the matriarchy. Prudes.
Go go dancers are common at clubs. It _could_ have been an oversight. Of course, at a hotel near the conf last night, I watched GDC badged gals going up to rooms with guys and booze in hand. It's not like women don't like sex. I think they just understand context better than men do.
it's not like MS hasn't hired out for gay guys.
This should be banned! Just like chick flicks, they only cater to women! Those sexist movies should be thrown in a pile and burned!
Can't say I'm shocked.
ProTip: don't believe companies that say they are diverse or non-sexist, they are just as exclusionary and sexist in their hiring and promotion practices.
Look at MSFT's board and you'll get an idea. Then look at their senior executives (EVP or above).
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"What's problematic is that Microsoft chose to throw a party that clearly caters to heterosexual men by hiring women as objects of sex."
is that the story submitter attempted to deny that lesbians exist and have a right to life
If not, let the girls have fun. They seem very happy about being around sugar daddies. Non-issue.
Think about it. By saying that Microsoft shouldn't be allowed to hire scantily clad women because it's sexist, they're denying opportunities for women to work. It would also be less empowering for women, as they (most of the time) have as much a choice to do the job as Microsoft has to hire them.
Microsoft must not be allowed to create offense by hiring women and telling them to wear scanty clothing.
They must create offense by hiring women and telling them to wear burkas or ankle length winter coats with hoods!
There shouldn't be any problem with the latter should there?
So kosher by the book, if a little boring.
Take it off. Take it all off.
Burma Shave?
GDC promoting marxism [...]
Oh, please. Did you even read the slide? That's like saying GDC is promoting zombie hordes.
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Dear whiplash
With all the improvements that are being made to this wonderful site one of the biggest flaws brought in big part by the previous owners (DICE) was the overly politicised topics that not even tangentially touches the historical major focus of this site: technology and its applications.
It is my belief that, for the original audience of this site, some here since before the 9/11, some even from when http colon slash slash was actually pronounced when reading URLs out loud, the main drive to come and read the front page is to catch up with the latest of the technology and its applications.
This kind of politicised subject (the same going for the U.S. elections, ISIS, the refugee crisis and general gossip) already abounds in the mainstream media and for more than a decade this used to be the place to run away from all that, to read about the subjects that are our jobs and our passions and to welcome our robotic overlords.
Unicode, https, burying videos, all that would be secondary if this kind of article continues to be propped up in here.
It is time for some transparency here: did this article even passed through the firehose? People actually voted for it? Maybe times changed and people here are voting for this kind of article to the front page but, otherwise, it would be a great update, maybe the greatest, to go back to the roots of "News for Nerds, stuff that matter".
Either that or at least inform the audience that Slashdot is OK with this kind of articles, that the desired audience is a new audience with a different profile and give us the alternative to go look for an alternative.
is hire scantily clad men and women to dance with everyone regardless of gender. Then they could argue in court they gave EVERYONE (except the dancers) * an equal opportunity to complain and to be offended.
* dancers only get to complain if they remained unemployed hence no pay.
This is a rhetorical question, please don't answer it:
What the fuck is White Fragility?
These are exactly the kinds of incidents that can happen when one doesn't strictly adhere to the Rust Code of Conduct. I've started using the Rust Code of Conduct for everything I do in my life, online and offline. Before I make any sort of a decision or take any sort of an action, I whip out my copy of the Rust Code of Conduct and confirm that my actions will not violate it in any way. I have printed out a copy of the Rust Code of Conduct and I keep it on my person at all times. I have another copy in my car, one at my desk, and several placed around my home in easily accessible locations. The last thing I want is to be somewhere without my Rust Code of Conduct! Some people say that it's dumb or that it wastes too much time, but I think they're wrong. Complying with the Rust Code of Conduct all of the time is something that I think is critical to living life in our modern age.
How is this a story
Whoever wrote the following line needs therapy.
"What's problematic is that Microsoft chose to throw a party that clearly caters to heterosexual men by hiring women as objects of sex."
I would not have any problem with Microsoft hiring Chippendale dancers for their events.
It would probably be a little weird, but I would not give a shit.
Signed
-sexy piece of meat
How does the big title at the top of the slide proclaiming "Marxism is Great for a Designer" not show support for Marxism?!
Just hire 50% genetic females and 50% male cross-dressers, and don't anybody who is who. Technically it would then be balanced hiring. Clothes are just clothes, a costume.
Table-ized A.I.
Microsoft is now closer than ever to having an equal male to female worker ratio!
Please?
Your marxism screenshot seems to be from Chris King's talk at GDC. As far as I can tell (http://www.polygon.com/2016/3/18/11264172/karl-marx-and-the-historical-determinism-of-video-games), his talk was about using marxism in the context of video game systems. He views it as a "deterministic" political philosophy that would allow viewing conquests in historical strategy games as logical and beneficial, even if they corresponded to illogical and/or financially irresponsible decisions historically. Posing game design solutions is the point of GDC, and that is what he did there.
So as far as I can tell without having attended the talk, neither the speaker nor GDC in general were promoting marxism as anything but a tool for verisimilitude in certain types of video games. But go ahead and act like you are standing up to some sort of anti-American conspiracy because people complained about having dancing girls at a professional event.
Instantly modded down. Presence of SJW whiner crowd: Confirmed.
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You are welcome on my lawn.
Let me rework the first sentence:
Just hire 50% genetic females and 50% genetic male cross-dressers, and don't tell anybody who is who.
Table-ized A.I.
What's problematic is that the editors thought they would have to explain to their readers what is wrong with Microsoft's actions. Another thing that is problematic is that the editors got it wrong. It isn't that they "cater to heterosexual men." It isn't completely clear that they were doing that. It is clear that they hired women as objects of sex. The HR department at Slashdot needs to better educate their employees. It is not OK to sexually harass any group of people, regardless of their gender, orientation, or any other demographic. It doesn't matter which class is amused or which class is offended.
I have heard that homosexual men has very similar brain responses to scantily clad women as do their heterosexual peers. So the scantily clad women are not their just for the heterosexual men and lesbians, scantily clad women in fact have universal appeal and are just all round good at helping to sell your products to any and all demographics.
Troll is not a replacement for I disagree.
The mods sniffed and said in their best Monty Python voice "We are NOT amused!"
More pictures please.
goddam political correctness. may its practitioners rot
I'm a lesbian trapped in a mans body! So those ladies would appeal to me regardless.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
Get used to it: Tendencies like sexism and racism aren't going away any time soon. Come back in another few thousand years, assuming we haven't extincted ourselves by then it might have been bred out of us.. or it might get worse. No telling. It's a fundamental flaw in our brains, like the need for religion.
What's problematic is that Microsoft chose to throw a party that clearly caters to heterosexual men by hiring women as objects of sex.
Oh, right, thanks for adding that, because I was having such great difficulty working it out from the rest of the summary.
systemd is Roko's Basilisk.
It was a corporate event. The proper etiquette is to show up, drink something non-alcoholic, make small talk and shake hands, and make an excuse as to why you need to leave by 8Pm.
Partying at things like this will end badly for you. Just show up to look like you're part of the team.
I agree, we need to make Slashdot a safe space again, free from those SJWs opinions that we disagree with. All they do is try and get rid of opinions they disagree with, that's what makes them SJWs who want a safe space.
*cough*
Ending the week with a positive story on Microsoft.
love is just extroverted narcissism
I misread that and was thinking "With that hair, how could anyone complain about anything else???"
I'll answer it anyway.
Bullshit. "White fragility" is bullshit.
Presence of sjw whiner crowd was confirmed when this story was submitted and approved. (Not that it hasn't been confirmed several times a day for a good long while now)
Wow, expected to read something like "did not hire male strippers for a ladies". But instead worried about homo men. Please, if homo get offended that easily, then they should not have chosen to be homos.
It is stuff like this that makes me roll my eyes whenever someone cries sexism.
Microsoft also hires many men and women, fully clothed, to crank out code.
Sad that women with nice bodies will all be unemployed soon in an effort to be politically correct.
What a waste.
I'll let them live with me, for free.
Even as a gay man, I enjoy scantily clad female dancers (as well as scantily clad models in art). So, I hope that that kind of "sexism" won't end.
Because they were female we just assume it's for Herero men and not gay women. Really, I'm ashamed of you all.
the more they stay the same....
I really think a lot of people are missing the point here. It's not that scantily clad sexy women are sexist per se, it's that this was a party that employees of a company were presumably encouraged to attend as well as an event showcasing the company's public face. In that environment, everyone should feel comfortable. If one wants to go to a strip club or club where there are go-go dancers, etc., that is their business and they can make that choice.
That deliberately provocative article is causing a good deal of SJW overreach I think. It's one thing to make technology welcoming to both genders (which shows fairness and social conscience), but it's quite another to point at dancers' clothing as an example of women (or men) being treated unfairly. The concerns about technology are certainly valid, but they do not extend to dancing.
*ALL* modern dancers wear less clothing than they would on the street or in the office, both sexes. Just try dancing in standard apparel and you'll soon see why!
Leave dancers out of this, or soon we'll be forcing our female dancers to wear veils and floor-length dresses and not allowing our male dancers to take their shirts off. SJW concern can go too far, and when you start constraining dance then you've definitely gone too far.
Scantily clad? Bare arms and bare midriff counts as scantily clad these days? (And not even very much midriff.) They're completely covered from a (very high) waist to their toes, otherwise. Not even close to as scanty as many many professional dancers at clubs all over the country. Not strip clubs, either. Plain old night club girls wear less than that.
Kids these days...
Seriously, I'd buy an Xbox One in a HEARTBEAT if a lithe 19 year old boy with a swimmer's build wearing skimpy clothes sold it to me.
I've watched more than a few college football games and somehow they've figured out how to have almost scantily clad people that are acceptable to most people. MS, take notice! Just bring in some SEC cheerleader squads next time.
"Sexism: prejudice, stereotyping, or discrimination, typically against women, on the basis of sex."
How exactly were they subject to prejudice, stereotyping or discrimination?
Sexism, this is not it.
If they had hired a bunch of chippendales would we even be having the sexism debate? No? There ya go.
What's "problematic" is that no one is allowed to be honest any more. Gods forbid an event setup for a bunch of guys caters to them. If they have to be pussies, why would anyone care?
There's the problem: It's okay to have under-dressed women when they're cheerleaders or holding placards but when they're acting like individuals, that's not respectable. Then again, men don't attend events while half-dressed so they can be individuals, at any time.
http://imgur.com/UgaQAWv that's a screenshot I took from that businessinsider article today; a half naked buxom girl in alluring pose linked to yet another businessinsider article...
Women *are* objects of male desire ... objects in the sense of subject/object, not in the sense of "things to be used".
Most men are heterosexual, and they do like to see scantily clad women. That isn't going to change.
(whether that means you should pay scantily clad women to attend events is a different question. But if you shouldn't, it's not because men "shouldn't" like looking at women. Because they should, and do.)
But the Xbox One IS a product that's being aimed at everyone. Shouldn't all their marketing (including parties) be more generic as a result? If they were launching a game that targeted hetero men then maybe your logic would follow. Anyway there were male dancers art this party too but nobody seems to be talking about that....
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Fuck Microsoft for caving and apologizing. Fuck the media for continuing to amplify the voices of a minority who always take offense to everything in a never ending pursuit of fostering controversy and whoring attention for hits and views.
Just because you object to something doesn't grant you the right to ruin it for others who disagree with you.
I think the men are being treated as objects more than the women.
Though of course both are inappropriate.
Instead of booth babes have booth beefcakes in speedos.
And for the record, I am a straight male. I just would pay to see the reactions of the attendees. Not to mention the press.
Need i remind people that the same people implying objectification and sexualization are bad (two completely different things that are not mutually inclusive),
are also implying with this statement that the only positive collective in the LGBT group is the Bisexual part; and that everyone else whose sexuality is primarily dependent on the preferred sex of their partner, and secondarily on their personality and everything else, which is the Gay, Lesbian, and arguably the Transgender part, are all bigots due to their one-sidedness and lack of openness?
Need i also remind people that these women weren't forced into anything, but are there on their own accord, and pay their bills using this, and that shaming them or interpreting them as no better than strippers or even whores is the definition of slut shaming, and worse yet defamation since you are using extreme comparisons to over-dramatize your argument?
Need i also remind people that straight men aren't the only ones who would be appeased by these women, but lesbians too. But for some reason lesbians don't exist right?
Need i also remind people that Feminism is to Egalitarianism what the Westboro Baptist Church is to Christianity. It's basically the secular variant of religious moralism.
Need i also remind people that there is also sex-positive Feminism which is supportive of things such as this, and that sex-negative Feminism is seen as the most flawed and worthless part of Feminism,
and that it is this sex-negative Feminism which supports the argument that objectification and sexualization is inherently bad which is supportive of shaming Microsoft for this particular situation.
Need i also remind people that Feminism has lost all its respect and relevance when it bullied a certain prove scientist for a shirt he was wearing (which was gifted to him by a female friend), much akin to how religious police in the Middle East judge and persecute "fashion crimes", and yet these same idiots have the gall to lead anti-bullying rallies as if they have credibility for it? Not to mention FEMEN shit, and the whole WomenAgainstFeminism Twitter fiasco where women came out to call out Feminism of patronization, infantilization, and arrogance as a movement.
" What's problematic is that Microsoft chose to throw a party that clearly caters to heterosexual men by hiring women as objects of sex."
You mean they pandered to the majority of the demographic attending.....single, mostly lonely, hetero neckbeards that would totally love seeing women dressed in skimpy cosplay (the calliber of which they will never date.....ever)??
Say it isn't so!!
Im shocked. Shocked I tell you!!!! This outrage will not stand.
I mean at this level of PC whats the point of even being physically attracted to anyone when you see them? Since that is certainly objectifying the person and clearly sexism. I guess we should all just gouge our eyes out and remove our tounges so no one ever gets offended again. This whole freaking world has gone of its rocker.
I say they keep the skimpy clad chicks for next year and get some skimpy clad dudes for the laddies and butter side down people. Boom, problem solved, everyone get objectified equally.
Why do these stories always single out programmers? If you think that is bad, you should s what the sales tam typically does, my gosh.
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
VR is the future and it is basically 3D so you can see the... er...bullets.. yeah bullets...
bouncing around in front of you....
come on.. you know what all this stuff is geared toward. give me a break...
Did you alert Anita too?
I looked up the definition of "sexism" and got this:
"prejudice, stereotyping, or discrimination, typically against women, on the basis of sex."
Where were women prejudiced, stereotyped, or discriminated against in this scenario?
Microsoft hired a bunch of women wearing very little clothing to dance and socialize with people at the company's official Game Developers Conference after-party last night in San Francisco
What's so wrong about that? We've just had a heat wave. I wish I could wear very little clothing in polite company.
Just hire some good-looking scantily clad dudes and call it a day. They'll probably be ignored, since 90% of the attendees are heterosexual males, but nobody could accuse M.S. of being unfair.
This is Slashdot, News For Nerds.
Your problem is you are under the old definition of Nerd, truly caring mostly about purely technical matters...
That's not true of the newer Nerd Classes, coming from a much broader set of viewpoints, many of whom would be considered classic SJW, who cannot separate technology and culture.... and indeed it's hard to blame them because the two are colliding fast.
So it would not surprise me if that went through firehose and got voted on because there are a lot of people here who would describe this story as almost pure tech in nature (after all, it was a technical development conference and concerns technical culture).
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Sure, if this was an office with a mixed crowd trying to accomplish the business charter and meet payroll. I agree with you. This is a Conference, which is informal as hell.
I have to wonder though, who is the sexist being discussed in TFA. Those women who are using their looks to make a ton of money? Unless Microsoft brought in slaves, this is a two way arrangement where someone is making money and someone is spending money.
That basic logic is what gets missed by people attempting to pit the people against each other (though most miss it completely). Women make huge piles of cash modelling, but if a guy appreciates her looks he is bad. Well, if he didn't appreciate the look the model would make money along the scale of male models. Who is getting screwed in that part of the crusade? It's not the guy, that's for damn sure.
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.
Everybody loves GoGos, GoGos are people too!
awful lot of posters in a need of a swirly.
Just cut out the middle man - hold it at a strip club or hire prostitutes - they're just going to be rubbing one out in the mens room...
This article sounds like SJW propaganda. When you see the terms "diversity and inclusion" being used when we know that Microsoft really isn't supporting anything other than crappy tech, it's safe to say that this another purely political post on Slashdot. Xbox games cater to nerdy white virgin males because that is their target demographic. I'm so sick of the SJW fascism.
Oh come on...Sex has been selling since prehistoric times. Get over yourself.
As for why there are not more chicks in software engineering, it's because productivity matters in this field, and chicks can get cushy jobs based on affirmative action elsewhere, where productivity does not matter.
Soon, affirmative action will end, and anyone putting a degree on a resume that they obtained with the help of affirmative action will be called out for lying on that resume. Ditto for listing work experience that was only obtained due to affirmative action.
So Microsoft doesn't value giving employment opportunities to hostesses and dancers? Perhaps the heterosexual female complainers should have pointed out the lack of scantily clad hosts for the ladies and gentlemen of different tastes. Microsoft should have hired some Italian party planners. They know how to organize corporate orgies for all tastes, as the tabloids have proven.
Non-white people have to put up with subtle and not-so-subtle racism all the time, sadly. Some are luckier than others (or more privileged, to use the jargon), but most have experienced it. White people for the most part have not, so when they suddenly do they find it difficult to handle.
It's not just discrimination against white people, it's when their own biases are pointed out. They take it personally, even when the issue is institutional or someone pointing out that common behaviour is actually problematic for them.
Of course the usual caveats apply, it's not all white people, and some minorities get it too. It's just that it does seem to be a thing, as most Slashdot debates on the subject prove.
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SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
Is it the men, exploited in a mistaken, if somewhat reliable, physchological manipulation technique to remove their money or reasoning faculties, or the women who are getting paid for nothing other than the fact they can use their physique to manipulate men?
Is it the women being "objectified", despite being totally in control of what others do to their physical form, unlike actual objects, or is it the men who are being dismissed as unintelligent reactive morons led by their unthinking dicks?
Is the problem not a patriarchy but a matriarchy that stands behind powerful men and manipulate them to both obey their wishes and take the fall.
"Behind every great man, lies a great woman". Doesn't that conjure up the Eminence Grease "Grand Vizir" of fantasy villain fame. Except, of course, such evil characters are always men. But such powers behind the throne, aren't they "Behind every great man, lies a great Grand Vizir Villain pulling the strings"?
And wouldn't such a manipulator pull strings so that they would be automatically and unthinkingly excluded from such suspicion?
Yes I agree too much sexism. They need to hire men based on their looks to walk around doing nothing but looking good and talking. Instead of forcing them to seek employment based on their competence at the job and brains.
And only found a link to "contents unavailable".
Disappointed.
Then you'll get complaints that you don't have anyone that identifies as a cat.
Microsoft can't have our both ways: you can either let the guys gave some fun(and stand by it'm, he'll it's GDC), or do the the political correct thing. But trying to apeace both will do no good with anybody.
Slut shamers!
This is just slut shaming by people who want a camera pointed at them, so their followers can hear their outrage.
Costume is not consent. It is also not sexism.
Dear Whipslash and the Editors,
...
/.'ers prefer minorities and females - silent and with no opinions whatsoever about their lived experiences. Talk about tech if you must, but please, talk about working in tech? Get over it, I have a raging hetero-hardon for Linus, he's so kewl. Let me suggest that it's fairly clear raw voting with no editorial intervention will not help us confront issues inherent to the majority thinking of our community.
Please never stop posting these stories. As an industry and a group of professionals it's important that we figure out how to not be dicks. As the saying goes, to those accustomed to privilege equality feels like oppression. I, for one, am very glad to see these stories and even happier when fellow geeks take the time to point out that responses of male fragility are not reasonable.
For example, the idea that no one should be upset because straight men don't get angry when a gay film doesn't market towards them...that's the whole freakin point. This is the Game Developer Conference. It shouldn't be a hetero-space, it should just be a space for game developers. It's not the Hetero Game Dev Conference, it's the Game Dev Conference...
We have to talk about these things to make progress, and the idea that these stories are "too political" is bullshit. How many stories a week do we have about Apple vs FBI? None of these people complain that's too political, but that's exactly what that story is.
People (undoubtedly privileged people) here are comfortable with stories about the technology of politics (crypto, Snowden, etc) but not the politics of technology (women, minorities, lgbtq participation, for a non-exhaustive example).
How many stories have we seen here framing the surveillance state as an inherently racist, anti-black endeavor? (What do you think over-policing is? Real active surveillance looks like Tamir Rice, Sandra Bland, Eric Garner...) Now how many stories do we see here lionizing white male heroes (Barret Brown, Snowden, Lavabit founder) of the anti-government resistance?
It's very clear how a vocal group of
Whipslash and the whole Editorial Crew - thank you for continuing to unearth these stories. They are necessary for us to mature.
To those calling for their removal, let me say that your speech speaks volumes. If you simply weren't interested you wouldn't post. It's clear that being considerate for others who are different from you (really making this *our* community, not just *your* community) makes you feel threatened. Time to grow up.
Let me try to make an analogy here
so you think that sexual attraction to women is the same as being racist?
and these dancers should offend everyone except for those heterosexual men who are sexists, begots, etc?
Would people complain if Microsoft had 3D holograms of virtual women dancing? People could even pick which characters they want to see dancing.
I pick Kasumi*, pole dancing.
* from Dead or Alive volleyball. In a her Gentian swimsuit.
Seriously, this "I'm the center of the universe" bullshit has gotten way out of hand.
I have been attending various computers shows since the lat 80's and they always seem to fill their booths with your hot woman. If you ask the women if they work for MS or Cisco or apple or whatever they will say actually they work for a modeling agency and they are there just to hand out swag. The gaming and computer industry is made up mostly of us geek guys. Just like when I go to Motorcycle Shows or Car Shows you have bikini girls handing out swag. Go to Bike Nite and you have bikini skanks handing out free beers and bottle openers. Hell I went to one bike nite and didn't pay for one drink because the alcohol industry was so enamored with giving bikers free drinks, in hopes they would get us to switch to their brands of whiskey, tequila, beer or whatever swill they gave away free drinks. Point is, marketing 101 is that sex sells. Even single geeky guys like sex and not necessarily with one another. So recieving swag from a hot model is always better than getting from a big bellied white guy but hey if it's free it's free.
Paul E. Bahre
See? This is why they need more women in IT --- so they don't have to hire them to dance for the Micro$oft doods!
We need proof of this allegation.
Men like women. Women like men. This is nature. The constant accusations that everything is sexist represent a war with nature. The origin of this war is the Bible. Progressive SJWs, even if they are atheists and whether they know it or not, are acting on a fundamentally Abrahamic world-view.
This is a choice, though maybe not a conscious one. But it is an ignorant one.
It is not necessary, or essential, or the only possible interpretation that I take offense if women on average, want to mate with men who are more physically attractive than I. I can simply accept this, and play the cards I'm dealt as skillfully as I can. The same applies for women, and the fact that men like attractive females.
Attempting to redefine reality, what is attractive, etc. is intractable. So is the situation in which any time someone feels offended, the world is obliged to change its behavior to ensure that they never feel bad again.
This nonsense needs to be put down. It is treasonous to the very idea of civilization, as it entrenches an attitude of constant conflict between identity groups. It is an insidious threat to individual liberty and a recipe for societal breakdown. It is not ethical. It is not noble. It is none of the things it is said to be by its promoters.
aren't you denying those sexy women self agency when you tell men not to hire them? If the women what to be seuxaulized, it's their choice, pure Parentism. Men still telling women what to do. One group is paying them to dance. another group is tellling them not to
But don't worry, so that people don't get upset, we will also have:
a car show
a circus
ponies!
a speech about sexism in the workplace
Fucking pure lunacy.
is better than being subjected to sexual assault as has happened in Koln, Oosterhund and elsewhere.
The women weren't forced, no female vistitor was excluded and i think microsoft themself treated them with respect, no idea if some visitor wasn't respectful.
Or do we need to have transgenderfluid entertainers only?
Here is a good general rule: 'Don't be a jerk'.
And apply that rule with increasing firmness the further out you get in circles of closeness (so: by yourself, don't sweat it; extremely close friends/family, be aware-they understand you and will probably pay you back for egregious nonsense; casual acquaintances/people you barely know/coworkers, try really hard; strangers, make every effort to not be a jerk)
This is not 'being PC' The is not coddling some denominator. This is not even a practical "... do you know how many HR policies that violates?"
This is simple, basic, kindergarten level manners. If you cannot understand that then sit down with a 6 year old and ask them to explain how to play with others without getting grounded.
Hiring scantily clad people to entertain one group while inherently being hostile to other groups is very jerkish. Work meetings at Hooters is very jerkish (not the story, a decision by some other engineers I once worked with). If you want to not be a jerk but you don't understand why these are issues, be polite and ask someone in a group that is typically upset by a behavior; file it as a data point and then be aware of that. If absolutely nothing else think of things like planning a lunch outing: if you know that you have a vegetarian and a muslim in your lunch group then don't insist on going to that great BBQ place that only serves pulled pork. You probably have women in your company, a work-related event where women are treated as sex objects is like shoving that pulled pork sandwich in the vegetarian or muslim colleague's mouth. (and you are probably irritating a few straight guys as well)
I mean, you couldn't just ignore the demands. Doing so loses the game, I take it. So you're doing the work but you're not in charge at home, the wife is.
Tell me how this ISN'T empowering women? And in a way that doesn't make the male character playing the head of the company sexist because it's a man giving the orders people have to obey at work, please.
Surely, you jest. I'll remember this hilarious "sexist hiring practices" thing the next time I am in front of an all-female HR staff at the next 30 companies I decided to do contract work for and see zero women applicants at.
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Thanks MS. It's the closest I have got to a woman that wasn't in a video game, ever. Though I expected the boobs to be bigger and rounder - video games would not lie to me, would they?
Sincerly,
--Every Sweaty Game Nerd