Put feathers on most dinosaurs, and suddenly they look kinda pretty.I'm certain the artist took some liberty with the colors, but that's an intriguing painting.
How is the creation of a slave caste not only a big problem, but something you should always put a lot of consideration into before embarking on?
Wow - that escalated quickly. I'd like bones that would resist osteoarthritis, and tendons/ligaments that would be stronger, ad you're going on a planet of the Apes scenario.
Also, while there exists areas like running where one genetic group dominates, none of them dominate in more than one area. Kenian's still have an average IQ of 90 or something like that.
For crying out loud - don't go there. Because You can't tell a thing about a person's IQ just by telling us what genetic background he or she has. I don't care if the average IQ is 150, it still doesn't predict.
And fortunate or not, society is so far away from a meritocracy that we simply do not see the pooling of genetic excellence and failures into distinct groups.
Wait - your sentence parses like a eugenicist. I had to g oback and re-read your other post I replied to as well.
You have fallen for the bell curve syndrome, where for some not quite sane reason, we have to determine an individual's worth based on his ethnicity.
That makes as much sense as deciding that because I make X number of dollars a year, all the members of my family also makes that much money per year. Even in genetics - you can't tell. My family has a generally high IQ But my mother and one sister were normal IQ. So you couldn't tell their IQ from the others in the family, without meeting them and those of us with the higher IQ's did not function any better, nor they any worse. We were all just a family with no slaves at all. Wrath of Kahn was a movie, not how people with some improved functions are going to act.
Would you want to come in second place to a GM human? Once we start messing with humans, creating artificiality better humans and regular old normal humans, One group will need to oppress the other. Either Super humans will be banned from all Competition with regular humans, or regular Humans will naturally lose all competitions.
I'd love to be a GM human. All those years of playing Ice Hockey have taken their toll. The problem is that if I had to do it all over again, I would do the same thing.
Evolution is far far from perfect. Nothing wrong with tighening up a few parameters here and there.
Well, the basic problem is that there is too much advertising - far too much. When you reach a certain degree of saturation, it no longer makes any difference - people just ignore it,
And how! Yahoo bears some measure of responsibility for adblockers escaping from geekworld into the general public.
Now, we would think that Yahoo is some sort of desert, with no one left, no one going there.
But the dirty little secret is that based on page hits, the three most visited places on the internet are Google, Facebook, and Yahoo. So there is apparently some service there.
I can just see the Slashdotters being more embarrassed about getting caught looking at Yahoo, than caught watching shemale midget scat porn.
So what gives? Well Yahoo has a great sports section. Some good sports writers to populate pages as well, plus good aggregation. And thanks to the state of New York, a lot of the online Gambling popups have gone away. Food section is okay, and even the financial section can have interesting stuff as long as you realize that most financial experts don't understand the actuarial tables, and seem to think that if you wait until 70 to start withdrawing Social Security you'll make more money from it.
Now the bad, as you note, the freaking advertising. I've occasionally had to turn off adblocker and noscript and forgotten to turn it back on. Yahoo is what I consider unusable without.
And even Grandma is leaning that way now, as I have installed adblock plus on a lot of machines brought to me because they "are too slow" Grandma is happy because her machine is now surfing much faster, and guess what - the Grandma network is fast, and covers a lot of ground.
And it's word of mouth. "That nice young man with the weird name installed this wonderful program on my computer, and it's just a miracle!" Good word of mouth for Adblocking, and bad word of mouth for the entire paradigm of Internet advertising.
Another bad thing is Yahoo's insisting on ramming Kim Kardashian down our gullets. Keep that PoS confined to the Entertainment pages.
I don't know of anybody who actually wants to see adverts.
I think that the Internet at one point had a home run on advertising. A web page that loaded with a few ads on it had a hidden quality of not having a "commercial break" aspect, like on television, where when the commercial came on, you'd go take a whiz, or grab a beer or soda, and come back to the program.
Here on that webpage, a nice little ad that just sat there was a powerful tool. Because you are probably going to look at it at some point.
But next we get blinkys, we get monkey punching, then we get scripting, multiple trackers, Eventually we get all this and malware that hijacks the browser.
Finally, most of the content, most of the bandwidth of websites like Yahoo (and many others) is the advertising and the tracking
So, with this being the case, it seems obvious that companies whose only way to generate revenue is advertising, will get into trouble, sooner or later.
Exactly, and the moment has already arrived. Yahoo is the canary in the coal mine for what the advertising driven internet has done to itself.
As I've already noted, if we are somehow forced to use the internet in the way advertisers demand, I'll simply stop using it except at great need.
First off, despite what some may think, Slashdot is a pretty good site. As the rest of the internet trends toward intellectuzlly challenged people, we can still get a good discussion going among intelligent people. The moderation system is good even if it has some faults.
I would suggest that for anyone modding another as troll be charged 3 moderation points if the person they are moderating as troll is not an AC. Too many people have been moderating simple disagreement as trolling.
Avoid clickbait. It's really easy to get clicks when you have:
Gun control or not gun control.
Third wave sex negative feminism.
There are a few other clickbait issues, but in general the clickbait stuff works to turn to sites into Yahoo.
The mobile site is horrible. I don't bother to visit unless I am at a desktop. So even though I note that, I don't have much advice o that matter.
No, because it is a UEFI problem that can be invoked in Windows also. And last time I checked, Windows doesn't use systemd.
IOW, you could have a nationwide pogrom, summarily shoot the developers and proponents of systemd, make the use of systemd a capital crime, and you'd still have the problem because it is a UEFI problem.
Thank you systemd haters, who have not taken the place of microsoft shills in modding anything they disagree with as a troll.
tl;dr systemd haters = microsoft shills, only unpaid.
I don't know that because it is a tiny little bit harder to do in windows, that it makes systemd the bad guy in a UEFI fault.
You can not accidentally write to those variables in Windows when trying to format a disk or do other admin work.
can write to those variables in Windows as something malicious.
The tap-dancing to make UEFI an open sore, ready to be exploited, the fault of Systemd, while using weak arguments to make it no problem at all in Windows says a lot. Not much of it very good.
So you're quite happy to spout "it will never work" without knowing much of the details.
Negative - you must have missed it in the post you are responding to. I'll repost that part again:
Never work? I never said that. I am certain that with enough money poured into the project, and making live landings of these things on barges in the ocean the actual mission, they will indeed work.
- Firstly the empty stages are extremely bottom heavy as all the engines, thrust structure and plumbing are located at the base. The only mass up top are empty tanks.
I've noted that at landing, most of the mass is in the bottom. Are you just pissed that someone takes a contrary opinion? Re-read what I wrote. But the question is how much of that mass is above the triangle formed by the landing gear? I dunno. I ask. Is the answer that I shouldn't ask?
Another issue is fuel sloshing while pitching and rolling. They may have taken care of that.
- Secondly, the barges when flooded are extremely stable, being able to maintain themselves within 3m even in heavy storm conditions.
Well now 9 feet pitch and roll is not "extremely stable". Regardless, at what sea state is this 9 foot pitch and roll achieved? For at least my outlook, I would prefer an active stabilization system on the barge. I'd be concerend a lot about that 9 feet pitch and roll movement after landing as well.If you are above sea state 5, could be a little saltwater ingress into thos reusable engines. I suspect however that stormy seas would be a mission abort factor.
- Thirdly, there are many missions where a return to launch site isn't possible. The center core on a Falcon Heavy is too far down range to return to land. For large GEO sats, there isn't enough fuel to both launch the sat and return to launch site (RTLS reduces the mass to orbit on a Falcon 9 by 30%). So they MUST land on a barge if they want to reuse these stages
I'm not so certain that that argues against anything I've said. Seems to me that they aren't going to be able to reuse all their rockets then.
For what its worth, One of my most valuable traits while I was working was that I didn't take the "Hey - it's all worked out, and this will work great!
Because all of the YesMen become redundant when they have no ideas after the things that were a lead pipe cinch didn't work. People did eventually listen to me because so many times, what I asked about turned out to be an actual problem.
Buy hey, if you said this thing works, just let Musk know, and they can go into full ocean barge recovery of every launch, because Hey! it works-and who are asswipes like me to ask questions? Never ask questions or show any doubt. It's all good, as witnessed by the 100 percent barge recovery success. Oh...wait...
The wipe EFI data on linux you need systemd, to wipe the EFI data on windows you need 20 lines of code.
So in what universe does that ever mean that it's systemd's fault?
Seems to me like a severe vulnerability, and it exists because UEFI is messed up. Is 20 lines of code some new thing that would put the writer in the GBOWR's?
Seems to me like a new vector for ransomware on the PC. Grab admin access through one of the ways, and send a message, "Pay us X number of bitcoin or we'll execute 20 lines of code on your Windows machine. and brick it".
And you'll still blame that on systemd!
I just cannot understand the illogic some folks engage in. Perhaps that happens when one picks a target to hate, and loses their reason in it, or just needs a simple one word soundbyte to point out as the source of all ills.
And as for peer pressure, you haven't seen anything until you work for a PC centric group that tries to force you onto Windows only solutions.
Until you go to work at a place that is 'mac' and they force you to use that above all else. The amount of times I've heard people say macs are better at... but no one can ever give a reason why.
Since I've used and supported both Windows (or MS-DOS) and Macs since the late 80s, I'll tell you why.
Longevity - Since I've been buying, using, and supporting both systems, the replacement rate for Windows machines is roughly 1.5 times the replacement rate for Macs.
Construction - I've never cut myself working inside a Mac. Some WIndows machines are so progressed on the race to the bottom, they don't even remove the sharp edges from the stamping. That has improved somewhat, but still behind Apple's construction.
Failure rate much lower on Apple machines -The worst plroblem I had with Apple's was with the dreaded electrolytic cap failure. I was lucky in that the replacement cycle on our Macs kept me out of most of that. I only had an Xserver power supply go down. Fortunately Cupertino had a new one for me when I arrived at work the next morning. That was it, aside from the occasional hard drive or RAM issue. The Dell servers we had had the same issues, based on some Chinese Electrolytic company was using a bad recipe for the electrolye in the caps.
Service - When I have had the opportunity to use it, I'll give an example. One evening I had an apple Wireless mouse go bad on my personal machine. I saw that the electrode contact on the mouse had jiggled loose, so I called Cupertino. After convincing them that it was indeed the problem - understandable because most the time its a battery issue, they told me to send it back. They mailed me out a box with a new mouse in it, which I got the next morning, with instructions and shipping lable to send the old one to them, so they could do a postmortem on it for QC. So I had a new mouse about as quickly as possible from California to the east coast. All on Apple's dime.
Off warrantee issues on Windows machines are usually cured by buying a new Windows machine. And the few times I've had to ship something out, it usually took a long time - and time is money, which is why I sometimes cure warranty issues with a new machine.
Operating system follies. At this point in Windows, I'll regularly see XP, Vista, 7, 8.1, and W10. OS X, is generally only a couple OS' to pay attention to, and they are very similar. At the point I retired from my day job, a few years back, my workplace like so many others, was still running XP, two versions behind Vista and was experimenting with W7 on a couple machines. Never had to do that with OS X.
Flexibility - I can run a lot more applications, because I can run Windows on my Mac. Parallels or Bootcamp. I use Bootcamp and W7 because I like the direct hardare access instead of squishing everything Windows through the processor.
Unix. Between OSX Unix and Linux, the Windows system is becoming the outlier.
Only my experience, so I'm not trying to argue from authority. Both machines work and do their jobs, but if I had to choose only one computer, it would be a Mac Pro, and run bootcamp and W7 or 10.
That's called taking the high-ground because fixing it would violate the elegance of their code, and blaming the underlying stuff as inelegant is just easier.
It's one of those mentalities which leas to "I'd rather fuck up your system and lose your data than put a chink in my perfectly elegant solution which causes the problem".
Cool story bro. Now tell us why systemd is responsible for the same action on a Windows machine.
Otherwise you're just saying "not my problem", and being a dick over your wrong, but otherwise awesomely elegant code.
UEFI exists as it is, and it isn't up to these guys to decree it should change... nobody consulted them when they built it, they're not going to consult with them in terms of how not to fuck it up.
Dayum, I'm going to award you one - no make it two internets. When a person has such hatred for systemd that they make everything it's fault - and I guess by extension the bricking of UEFI on Windows as well is systemd's fault, you sort of bridge the gap between technology and religion.
Of all the things you could run that you might expect to 'brick' your system surely 'rm -rf' as root would be the one.
Consequences arise from actions. I hate UEFI as much as the next guy, and don't get me started about SystemD but this looks like click bait.
Damn, got me.
Well, it's kind of clickbait, but its proper nerdish clickbait. It's even a sort of test, if you will. While the systemd haters will automatically jump on another chance to rail on about it, anyone who reads the article will see that it isn't a systemd problem, its a UEFI fault. Because you can make the same thing happen in Windows. A little "harder" and no doubt, but systemd could be wiped off the face of the earth, and not fix the problem.
No, because it is a UEFI problem that can be invoked in Windows also. And last time I checked, Windows doesn't use systemd.
IOW, you could have a nationwide pogrom, summarily shoot the developers and proponents of systemd, make the use of systemd a capital crime, and you'd still have the problem because it is a UEFI problem.
I read up on this - it's bricking the system as in "wiping EFI data in ROM", meanin the motherboard is now a brick. Prior to UEFI and systemd, 'rm -rf/' would only wipe the disk, and you could rebuild from backups if you had them
Kinda a mix of everything. It's worth noting that, according to ex-kernel hacker Matthew Garrett, you can achieve the same bricking using a 20 line program in Windows. So it's not a Linux (or systemd! Seriously, don't we have enough hate against systemd without TFS adding fuel to the fire?) issue, it's more a design fault.
Yeah. It's nothing short of amazing when a UEFI fault becomes automagically a systemd fault.
Nobody cares about those companies. Sure, they still exist. But they sell exclusively to the 1%.
I would absolutely and completely love it if Apple became so successful that they only sold their products to the 1%.
No one cars, which is whty they are still in business.
If I dumbed it down enough, would you agree that some people might pay a little for quality? Or is your bubble so strong - and it is in many - that you believe that low cost is the only metric? After all, I once saw a couple of Window's guys almost come to blows over a 5 cent difference in RAM price.
There is an old saying - If you want high quality hay, you must be prepared to pay a fair price. However, if you'll take the hay after it's been through the horse, you can save a lot of money.
Rolls Royce is gone. Bought by BMW more than a decade ago. The gas turbine manufacturer still exists, though. Lamborghini is gone, it is owned by VW now. Rolex has a cheaper brand (Tudor). What was your point again? X
That you are not terribly quick on the uptake. Whoosh for maximum levels of whoosh. Who owns any of these companies has nothing to do with my point.
My point is that there are people in this world who will pay for quality. There are also people who want rock bottom cheap and will stop at nothing to get the cheapest poorest quality they can get.
I learned a long time ago that cheaping out only ensures cheap. You don't have to pay top dollar for everything, but if your metric is that apple isn't competitive because they are overpriced, then go out and buy a Digiland Tablet.
Now to your smashinig ripost and utter destruction of my entire premise, which is somehow declaring these outfits don't exist any more, or that all Rolex watches are cheap bacause of producing a less expensive model....
Here is Rolex http://www.rolex.com/
Go tell them that all their watches are the equivalent of Swatches because they have a less expensive model.
Since they are "Gone" as you put it, you might do the company and the dealerships a favor in telling them they are selling air or something Get on that, and tell me how that works out for ya. Gotta put these idiots straight.
Let's put this another way. Apple products are 80% marketing and 20% technology. The only "killer" Apple needs to sustain is marketing peer pressure, which clearly hasn't been hard for them. In fact, they're the best in the world at it.
That 20 percent Technology - does that include all of the OSX Only software I use professionally?
Since I also use Windows OS, I get to compare the different systems and software. My opinion is always wrong, but always based on experience.
And as for peer pressure, you haven't seen anything until you work for a PC centric group that tries to force you onto Windows only solutions.
Old data is just that...old data. Apple needs to become much more price competitive if it is going to succeed in today's marketplace. Your name can only get you so far.
Exactly. Look at all the high end products that are no longer with us because they refused to join the race to the bottom.:
Rolex watches - gone, should have made a swatch like $1.99 digital watch.
Lamborghini - too bad they didn't copy the Yugo or Ford Pinto. Now they are on the dustheap of history
Rolls Royce - A sad story. Gone out of business because they just didn't realize that the only metric in cars is cheap.
The entire diamond industry collapsed because people know that it's just overpriced glass in those rings.
So many more examples where industry has found out that only attending to the lowest common denominator is the only path to profit.
If you want cheap, buy cheap. Just don't assume that everyone does.
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Birds are usually only non-threatening to us because they're small. But if they were huge, they'd be like monsters.
Along those lines, here's an interesting NatGeo article.
http://news.nationalgeographic...
Put feathers on most dinosaurs, and suddenly they look kinda pretty.I'm certain the artist took some liberty with the colors, but that's an intriguing painting.
How is the creation of a slave caste not only a big problem, but something you should always put a lot of consideration into before embarking on?
Wow - that escalated quickly. I'd like bones that would resist osteoarthritis, and tendons/ligaments that would be stronger, ad you're going on a planet of the Apes scenario.
Also, while there exists areas like running where one genetic group dominates, none of them dominate in more than one area. Kenian's still have an average IQ of 90 or something like that.
For crying out loud - don't go there. Because You can't tell a thing about a person's IQ just by telling us what genetic background he or she has. I don't care if the average IQ is 150, it still doesn't predict.
And fortunate or not, society is so far away from a meritocracy that we simply do not see the pooling of genetic excellence and failures into distinct groups.
Wait - your sentence parses like a eugenicist. I had to g oback and re-read your other post I replied to as well.
You have fallen for the bell curve syndrome, where for some not quite sane reason, we have to determine an individual's worth based on his ethnicity.
That makes as much sense as deciding that because I make X number of dollars a year, all the members of my family also makes that much money per year. Even in genetics - you can't tell. My family has a generally high IQ But my mother and one sister were normal IQ. So you couldn't tell their IQ from the others in the family, without meeting them and those of us with the higher IQ's did not function any better, nor they any worse. We were all just a family with no slaves at all. Wrath of Kahn was a movie, not how people with some improved functions are going to act.
Would you want to come in second place to a GM human? Once we start messing with humans, creating artificiality better humans and regular old normal humans, One group will need to oppress the other. Either Super humans will be banned from all Competition with regular humans, or regular Humans will naturally lose all competitions.
I'd love to be a GM human. All those years of playing Ice Hockey have taken their toll. The problem is that if I had to do it all over again, I would do the same thing.
Evolution is far far from perfect. Nothing wrong with tighening up a few parameters here and there.
Meh, I've got a small descendant of a coelurosaurian theropod standing next to me - he's not so tough.
(Actually, I take that back - an elephant-sized predatory variant of him would be terrifying)
Then again, Ostriches might look goofy, but you do not want to get kicked by one.
Complately aside, but I was once bit by an emu.
But fear not good citizens, Mayer will probably get a severance package equal to the salaries of the people she fired.
I mean, there has to be justice for the woman, right?
Well, the basic problem is that there is too much advertising - far too much. When you reach a certain degree of saturation, it no longer makes any difference - people just ignore it,
And how! Yahoo bears some measure of responsibility for adblockers escaping from geekworld into the general public.
Now, we would think that Yahoo is some sort of desert, with no one left, no one going there.
But the dirty little secret is that based on page hits, the three most visited places on the internet are Google, Facebook, and Yahoo. So there is apparently some service there.
I can just see the Slashdotters being more embarrassed about getting caught looking at Yahoo, than caught watching shemale midget scat porn.
So what gives? Well Yahoo has a great sports section. Some good sports writers to populate pages as well, plus good aggregation. And thanks to the state of New York, a lot of the online Gambling popups have gone away. Food section is okay, and even the financial section can have interesting stuff as long as you realize that most financial experts don't understand the actuarial tables, and seem to think that if you wait until 70 to start withdrawing Social Security you'll make more money from it.
Now the bad, as you note, the freaking advertising. I've occasionally had to turn off adblocker and noscript and forgotten to turn it back on. Yahoo is what I consider unusable without.
And even Grandma is leaning that way now, as I have installed adblock plus on a lot of machines brought to me because they "are too slow" Grandma is happy because her machine is now surfing much faster, and guess what - the Grandma network is fast, and covers a lot of ground.
And it's word of mouth. "That nice young man with the weird name installed this wonderful program on my computer, and it's just a miracle!" Good word of mouth for Adblocking, and bad word of mouth for the entire paradigm of Internet advertising.
Another bad thing is Yahoo's insisting on ramming Kim Kardashian down our gullets. Keep that PoS confined to the Entertainment pages.
I don't know of anybody who actually wants to see adverts.
I think that the Internet at one point had a home run on advertising. A web page that loaded with a few ads on it had a hidden quality of not having a "commercial break" aspect, like on television, where when the commercial came on, you'd go take a whiz, or grab a beer or soda, and come back to the program.
Here on that webpage, a nice little ad that just sat there was a powerful tool. Because you are probably going to look at it at some point.
But next we get blinkys, we get monkey punching, then we get scripting, multiple trackers, Eventually we get all this and malware that hijacks the browser.
Finally, most of the content, most of the bandwidth of websites like Yahoo (and many others) is the advertising and the tracking
So, with this being the case, it seems obvious that companies whose only way to generate revenue is advertising, will get into trouble, sooner or later.
Exactly, and the moment has already arrived. Yahoo is the canary in the coal mine for what the advertising driven internet has done to itself.
As I've already noted, if we are somehow forced to use the internet in the way advertisers demand, I'll simply stop using it except at great need.
I would suggest that for anyone modding another as troll be charged 3 moderation points if the person they are moderating as troll is not an AC. Too many people have been moderating simple disagreement as trolling.
Avoid clickbait. It's really easy to get clicks when you have: Gun control or not gun control.
Third wave sex negative feminism.
There are a few other clickbait issues, but in general the clickbait stuff works to turn to sites into Yahoo.
The mobile site is horrible. I don't bother to visit unless I am at a desktop. So even though I note that, I don't have much advice o that matter.
Isn't "not running systemd" a good solution?
No, because it is a UEFI problem that can be invoked in Windows also. And last time I checked, Windows doesn't use systemd.
IOW, you could have a nationwide pogrom, summarily shoot the developers and proponents of systemd, make the use of systemd a capital crime, and you'd still have the problem because it is a UEFI problem.
Thank you systemd haters, who have not taken the place of microsoft shills in modding anything they disagree with as a troll. tl;dr systemd haters = microsoft shills, only unpaid.
I don't know that because it is a tiny little bit harder to do in windows, that it makes systemd the bad guy in a UEFI fault.
You can not accidentally write to those variables in Windows when trying to format a disk or do other admin work.
can write to those variables in Windows as something malicious.
The tap-dancing to make UEFI an open sore, ready to be exploited, the fault of Systemd, while using weak arguments to make it no problem at all in Windows says a lot. Not much of it very good.
So you're quite happy to spout "it will never work" without knowing much of the details.
Negative - you must have missed it in the post you are responding to. I'll repost that part again:
Never work? I never said that. I am certain that with enough money poured into the project, and making live landings of these things on barges in the ocean the actual mission, they will indeed work.
- Firstly the empty stages are extremely bottom heavy as all the engines, thrust structure and plumbing are located at the base. The only mass up top are empty tanks.
I've noted that at landing, most of the mass is in the bottom. Are you just pissed that someone takes a contrary opinion? Re-read what I wrote. But the question is how much of that mass is above the triangle formed by the landing gear? I dunno. I ask. Is the answer that I shouldn't ask?
Another issue is fuel sloshing while pitching and rolling. They may have taken care of that.
- Secondly, the barges when flooded are extremely stable, being able to maintain themselves within 3m even in heavy storm conditions.
Well now 9 feet pitch and roll is not "extremely stable". Regardless, at what sea state is this 9 foot pitch and roll achieved? For at least my outlook, I would prefer an active stabilization system on the barge. I'd be concerend a lot about that 9 feet pitch and roll movement after landing as well.If you are above sea state 5, could be a little saltwater ingress into thos reusable engines. I suspect however that stormy seas would be a mission abort factor.
- Thirdly, there are many missions where a return to launch site isn't possible. The center core on a Falcon Heavy is too far down range to return to land. For large GEO sats, there isn't enough fuel to both launch the sat and return to launch site (RTLS reduces the mass to orbit on a Falcon 9 by 30%). So they MUST land on a barge if they want to reuse these stages
I'm not so certain that that argues against anything I've said. Seems to me that they aren't going to be able to reuse all their rockets then.
For what its worth, One of my most valuable traits while I was working was that I didn't take the "Hey - it's all worked out, and this will work great!
Because all of the YesMen become redundant when they have no ideas after the things that were a lead pipe cinch didn't work. People did eventually listen to me because so many times, what I asked about turned out to be an actual problem.
Buy hey, if you said this thing works, just let Musk know, and they can go into full ocean barge recovery of every launch, because Hey! it works-and who are asswipes like me to ask questions? Never ask questions or show any doubt. It's all good, as witnessed by the 100 percent barge recovery success. Oh...wait...
The wipe EFI data on linux you need systemd, to wipe the EFI data on windows you need 20 lines of code.
So in what universe does that ever mean that it's systemd's fault?
Seems to me like a severe vulnerability, and it exists because UEFI is messed up. Is 20 lines of code some new thing that would put the writer in the GBOWR's?
Seems to me like a new vector for ransomware on the PC. Grab admin access through one of the ways, and send a message, "Pay us X number of bitcoin or we'll execute 20 lines of code on your Windows machine. and brick it".
And you'll still blame that on systemd!
I just cannot understand the illogic some folks engage in. Perhaps that happens when one picks a target to hate, and loses their reason in it, or just needs a simple one word soundbyte to point out as the source of all ills.
And as for peer pressure, you haven't seen anything until you work for a PC centric group that tries to force you onto Windows only solutions.
Until you go to work at a place that is 'mac' and they force you to use that above all else. The amount of times I've heard people say macs are better at ... but no one can ever give a reason why.
Since I've used and supported both Windows (or MS-DOS) and Macs since the late 80s, I'll tell you why.
Longevity - Since I've been buying, using, and supporting both systems, the replacement rate for Windows machines is roughly 1.5 times the replacement rate for Macs.
Construction - I've never cut myself working inside a Mac. Some WIndows machines are so progressed on the race to the bottom, they don't even remove the sharp edges from the stamping. That has improved somewhat, but still behind Apple's construction. Failure rate much lower on Apple machines -The worst plroblem I had with Apple's was with the dreaded electrolytic cap failure. I was lucky in that the replacement cycle on our Macs kept me out of most of that. I only had an Xserver power supply go down. Fortunately Cupertino had a new one for me when I arrived at work the next morning. That was it, aside from the occasional hard drive or RAM issue. The Dell servers we had had the same issues, based on some Chinese Electrolytic company was using a bad recipe for the electrolye in the caps.
Service - When I have had the opportunity to use it, I'll give an example. One evening I had an apple Wireless mouse go bad on my personal machine. I saw that the electrode contact on the mouse had jiggled loose, so I called Cupertino. After convincing them that it was indeed the problem - understandable because most the time its a battery issue, they told me to send it back. They mailed me out a box with a new mouse in it, which I got the next morning, with instructions and shipping lable to send the old one to them, so they could do a postmortem on it for QC. So I had a new mouse about as quickly as possible from California to the east coast. All on Apple's dime.
Off warrantee issues on Windows machines are usually cured by buying a new Windows machine. And the few times I've had to ship something out, it usually took a long time - and time is money, which is why I sometimes cure warranty issues with a new machine.
Operating system follies. At this point in Windows, I'll regularly see XP, Vista, 7, 8.1, and W10. OS X, is generally only a couple OS' to pay attention to, and they are very similar. At the point I retired from my day job, a few years back, my workplace like so many others, was still running XP, two versions behind Vista and was experimenting with W7 on a couple machines. Never had to do that with OS X.
Flexibility - I can run a lot more applications, because I can run Windows on my Mac. Parallels or Bootcamp. I use Bootcamp and W7 because I like the direct hardare access instead of squishing everything Windows through the processor.
Unix. Between OSX Unix and Linux, the Windows system is becoming the outlier.
Only my experience, so I'm not trying to argue from authority. Both machines work and do their jobs, but if I had to choose only one computer, it would be a Mac Pro, and run bootcamp and W7 or 10.
say what you want about windows, it doesnt fuck the entire system if I uninstall solitaire
They do that with updates.
That's called taking the high-ground because fixing it would violate the elegance of their code, and blaming the underlying stuff as inelegant is just easier.
It's one of those mentalities which leas to "I'd rather fuck up your system and lose your data than put a chink in my perfectly elegant solution which causes the problem".
Cool story bro. Now tell us why systemd is responsible for the same action on a Windows machine.
Otherwise you're just saying "not my problem", and being a dick over your wrong, but otherwise awesomely elegant code.
UEFI exists as it is, and it isn't up to these guys to decree it should change ... nobody consulted them when they built it, they're not going to consult with them in terms of how not to fuck it up.
Dayum, I'm going to award you one - no make it two internets. When a person has such hatred for systemd that they make everything it's fault - and I guess by extension the bricking of UEFI on Windows as well is systemd's fault, you sort of bridge the gap between technology and religion.
Of all the things you could run that you might expect to 'brick' your system surely 'rm -rf' as root would be the one.
Consequences arise from actions. I hate UEFI as much as the next guy, and don't get me started about SystemD but this looks like click bait.
Damn, got me.
Well, it's kind of clickbait, but its proper nerdish clickbait. It's even a sort of test, if you will. While the systemd haters will automatically jump on another chance to rail on about it, anyone who reads the article will see that it isn't a systemd problem, its a UEFI fault. Because you can make the same thing happen in Windows. A little "harder" and no doubt, but systemd could be wiped off the face of the earth, and not fix the problem.
New Geek meme : Thanks, systemd!
Except in windows, you have to be pretty intentional about it.
Yeah, so? I wouldn't doubt there are some bad guys who have some intentions to do it.
I don't know that because it is a tiny little bit harder to do in windows, that it makes systemd the bad guy in a UEFI fault.
Isn't "not running systemd" a good solution?
No, because it is a UEFI problem that can be invoked in Windows also. And last time I checked, Windows doesn't use systemd.
IOW, you could have a nationwide pogrom, summarily shoot the developers and proponents of systemd, make the use of systemd a capital crime, and you'd still have the problem because it is a UEFI problem.
I read up on this - it's bricking the system as in "wiping EFI data in ROM", meanin the motherboard is now a brick. Prior to UEFI and systemd, 'rm -rf /' would only wipe the disk, and you could rebuild from backups if you had them
So they have systemd on Windows now too?
Kinda a mix of everything. It's worth noting that, according to ex-kernel hacker Matthew Garrett, you can achieve the same bricking using a 20 line program in Windows. So it's not a Linux (or systemd! Seriously, don't we have enough hate against systemd without TFS adding fuel to the fire?) issue, it's more a design fault.
Yeah. It's nothing short of amazing when a UEFI fault becomes automagically a systemd fault.
Must..... resist......argghhhh!! ummhhh! Oh hell!
Thanks Obama!
So, which is it .. UEFI is catastrophically broken, or the way it's implemented is clueless and naive?
Choose door number 1.
Nobody cares about those companies. Sure, they still exist. But they sell exclusively to the 1%.
I would absolutely and completely love it if Apple became so successful that they only sold their products to the 1%.
No one cars, which is whty they are still in business.
If I dumbed it down enough, would you agree that some people might pay a little for quality? Or is your bubble so strong - and it is in many - that you believe that low cost is the only metric? After all, I once saw a couple of Window's guys almost come to blows over a 5 cent difference in RAM price.
There is an old saying - If you want high quality hay, you must be prepared to pay a fair price. However, if you'll take the hay after it's been through the horse, you can save a lot of money.
Rolls Royce is gone. Bought by BMW more than a decade ago. The gas turbine manufacturer still exists, though. Lamborghini is gone, it is owned by VW now. Rolex has a cheaper brand (Tudor). What was your point again? X
That you are not terribly quick on the uptake. Whoosh for maximum levels of whoosh. Who owns any of these companies has nothing to do with my point.
My point is that there are people in this world who will pay for quality. There are also people who want rock bottom cheap and will stop at nothing to get the cheapest poorest quality they can get.
I learned a long time ago that cheaping out only ensures cheap. You don't have to pay top dollar for everything, but if your metric is that apple isn't competitive because they are overpriced, then go out and buy a Digiland Tablet. Now to your smashinig ripost and utter destruction of my entire premise, which is somehow declaring these outfits don't exist any more, or that all Rolex watches are cheap bacause of producing a less expensive model....
Here is Rolex http://www.rolex.com/ Go tell them that all their watches are the equivalent of Swatches because they have a less expensive model.
Here is Rolls Royce. https://www.rolls-roycemotorca...
Since they are "Gone" as you put it, you might do the company and the dealerships a favor in telling them they are selling air or something Get on that, and tell me how that works out for ya. Gotta put these idiots straight.
Go tell them they don't exist any more
Here is Lamborghini http://www.lamborghini.com/en/...
More air being sold, eh?
Go tell them they don't exist any more.
Let's put this another way. Apple products are 80% marketing and 20% technology. The only "killer" Apple needs to sustain is marketing peer pressure, which clearly hasn't been hard for them. In fact, they're the best in the world at it.
That 20 percent Technology - does that include all of the OSX Only software I use professionally?
Since I also use Windows OS, I get to compare the different systems and software. My opinion is always wrong, but always based on experience.
And as for peer pressure, you haven't seen anything until you work for a PC centric group that tries to force you onto Windows only solutions.
Go ahead, dump all of your 401K savings in Apple, I dare you.
Your logic is.... fascinating. Why would anyone, even the mythical most simpering hipster clueless Apple fanboi, engage in monoculture investing?
You have an interesting outlook on life. You should put out a newsletter or something.
Old data is just that...old data. Apple needs to become much more price competitive if it is going to succeed in today's marketplace. Your name can only get you so far.
Exactly. Look at all the high end products that are no longer with us because they refused to join the race to the bottom.:
Rolex watches - gone, should have made a swatch like $1.99 digital watch.
Lamborghini - too bad they didn't copy the Yugo or Ford Pinto. Now they are on the dustheap of history
Rolls Royce - A sad story. Gone out of business because they just didn't realize that the only metric in cars is cheap.
The entire diamond industry collapsed because people know that it's just overpriced glass in those rings.
So many more examples where industry has found out that only attending to the lowest common denominator is the only path to profit. If you want cheap, buy cheap. Just don't assume that everyone does.