Anyhow, there are some number (I don't know how high nor am I qualified to speculate on the percentage) of officers who see this as a benefit.
If I were a policeman, I'd definitely record every second I was on duty.
But aside from cameras, I think the best tactic is to avoid unneeded escalation.
There were a few times when I was younger that it was obvious the cop was trying to escalate the situation.
My favorite was near Philadelphia, where my wife - then girlfriend was going to riding school. Her, one of her friends at school, and I were out for a drive one evening. I saw I was going down a deadend road, so I pulled in a drive to turn around. Suddenly lights flashing a cop pulled in behind me, and a cop gets out. I give him my info, and he asks "What were you doing in these people's driveway?" I told him turning around and I did it very politely. "He said, no you weren't," and I said "Really officer, I wanted to turn around before the road ended" At that point, he started with "I don't like your attitude, Punk."
Oddly enough, my wife and her friend de-escalated the situation. Both were pretty hot barely legals at the time, and her friend was blessed with a southern accent.
"Oh really officer, she drawled, we are attending this riding school just up the road, and Ol was just takin' his lady friend and myself out for a little drive to relax a little, we certainly didn't mean any harm turnin' into these folks driveway." My "lady friend" picked up on the drill, and she started flirting with the cop. Then they all start chatting. Finally, he gave me my license and insurance papers back, and said to the girls. "You all have a good evening ladies."
They laughed, and it's funny now, but at that point I was really pissed off, and a little grateful.. Cop was ready to bust me badly, and a couple hotties flirted him into submission.
So the increase in crime should correlate with places that have relaxed drug laws. I didn't see that in the results. Where are you getting your statistics from?
Maybe we could just take them all off the street and let everyone wear a gun and handle their own justice? Wonder how that would work out? I know already anytime I have to take a trip to Atlanta to visit Emory University Hospital Midtown that I pack heat. It's gotten to the point that it's not paranoia anymore, they really are out to get you. It's not the fucking police I'm worried about either. They're the lightweights.
Because if everyone is packing heat, the world will shoot first, and let the Flying Spaghetti Monster handle it.
Can you tell me of a universally armed place that is peaceful where everyone is carrying?
And don't pull the NRA required bullshit that I am anti-gun either, lest ye be labeld a true kook. I'm not, and never will be. I just find the idea of kooks with guns to be about as charming as police in M1A1's. A lot of them are itchin' to dispatch people as well.
This is mostly true now, to be honest. When they first started it was quite frequently in the news about how the officers didn't like them. I think they changed, to some extent (you still see some complaining about them on sites like Reddit or Voat for example - I'm sure others), when they realized it also got rid of some of the bullshit complaints about abuses that simply didn't happen. I suspect it's the same ones that complained then that complain now. I don't see it as hypocrisy, I see them as wrong but not hypocritical.
And don't forget, it could show people attacking the officers. In an world approaching normalcy, all that stuff would even out.
It took about 10 minutes for a medical response on site from 911. So why is it wrong to get the ambulance rolling before alerting Security that there's one coming in?
So the Ambulance just takes off sirens blaring, and miraculously gets to the right place? My place has ten different buildings.
Having someone call security or whatever number you are supposed to call gets everything started, they've been trained to be calm and direct people to the right place.
In addition, I don't know how all other places do it, but for us, multiple people were trained in CPR and Defib on all the floors. They would get there even before security.
The time saved by knowing how to defibrillate instead of reading the instructions first is pretty critical. Those badboys save lives, but there are ways to injure bystanders or helpers if you don't know what you are doing. They made those of us who trained on them pay real close attention. Ten minutes waiting for EMT's just doesn't hack it. Seconds count, and Security getting there in 2 minutes helps, but if there are a couple trained in every office, they are likely to be there in seconds.
How long does it take security to get someone at the gate to point the ambulance to the right building?
Why would you even ask that? You figure that the Ambulance people would know how to get there if only security wasn't there? In our place - seconds. If at a remote site, whoever was working on the person would continue, and someone would be directed to go outside to wherever the EMT's were going to show up. Security is acting as a proxy 911 to get things started. Soon as the EMT's get on site, they take over. The victim can be under almost constant attendance.
In most cases, employees are banned from calling 911 to reduce the chances of false alarms that would generate callouts.
Banning is such an odd word. These systems are put in place to save lives, and not to dismiss false alarms. If I called 911 from my desk, it would give them the name of the University - hey now, only about 40,000 different people and thousands of offices to choose from.
A huge operation over many miles just isn't like calling from your house. Safety teams have been put together to help people not die on the premises. There's all kinds of bad publicity, and investigations and lawsuits that happen after one of these unfortunate events. So even aside from a humanitarian outlook, there is a real strong reason to work efficiently in keeping people from assuming room temperature on your property, and saving someone makes for a lot of feelgood.
So if you aren't an idiot, and can identify a real emergency from a fake one, you should always call 911 first, regardless of the company policy. Why are you against people thinking for themselves?
Because if you violate company policy, and the person dies because the ambulance cant find the place and the family sues, the company will point that out that procedures were not followed. By you. You are bypassing the people who are trained to do this, and assuming responsibility yourself. Good Samaritan laws are for good Samaritans, and disregarding protocol is often not covered.
We were even trained in this (by the first responders) to start what was needed, CPR Defib, or wound compression, and start barking out orders to people to call the official number. I was protected under good Samaritan laws, but only if I followed protocol - say I told people ot not call the number because "I got this" - then I would be in trouble, and most likely liable, as well as a freaking idiot.
I fear you're thinking this is some kind of dodge on the companies part. It isn't, and it works pretty well.
Dvorak is derived from sustained wind speed and pressure. The wind speeds are so high, and the pressures so low on this storm that they exceed the theoretical maximum (8.0) listed for Dvorak.
I assume they calculated it at 8.3 by extrapolating from the existing scale.
So, you're saying spending two hours a day doing some solo activity is better than spending 1 hour per day driving and 1 hour with my family? No wonder the world is so fucked.
These tools think that using FaceBook while sitting in a bus is interfacing with their family.
Using a car isn't wasting time; using public transportation is wasting time.
You have that exactly right
As an example - the bus schedule from my work to home means I either take off work a half hour early, or wait at the stop for 45 minutes. Then it takes a circuitous route on campus and through town, then shopping centers.
So in comparison for my two mile home to work trip leaving at 5:00 p.m.:
Bus ride = 1 hour 45 minutes
Walking home = 40 minutes
Drive home = 10 minutes
So I can take off the 45 minute wait in the morning for the bus, and come up with around 3 hours a day of worthless time spent riding the bus. Walking is great except for the winter, and bicycling along some of those roads is suicidal and sweaty.
To me at least, "The freedom of not having a car" is NewSpeak.
The knowledge that if this crap happens on their watch, the executives will be the ones they go after. Because as long as they don't do anything of consequence, there's no incentive for executives to stop doing crap like this.
But you and I both know there will be new laws that punish the consumer, while the execs will be shielded from prosecution. All I know is someone in the mailroom probably was blamed for this.
Sure, There are many things to the idea of accumulating more than others.
My wife has an acquaintance for whom everything is a competition. If we spend 10K on a cruise, you can bet she'll be soon bragging about spending much more than that.
It gets really nuts though when she's competing with me for severity of allergy symptoms.
But her's is a small sampling of the desire to have more than other people - in this case mostly harmless if annoying thing. In some others that drive really kicks in
I understand passion very well. I've always had a passion for science and research that many here think is crazy. And it sorta is. If a person has no passions it sure looks that way. Long hours, overnighters, ignoring danger, and all the things most slashdotters say they won't ever do.
But if myself and my colleagues have a passion for that, it's not at all surprising that others might have a passion for pecuniary accumulation in the extreme.
Difference is, any harm we were doing was to ourselves. These folks could turn us into a banana republic.
I don't know if they're in the majority, but clearly there are billionaires who treat their wealth as a game. So for them getting richer is a goal in itself.
It's the achilles heel of Laissez-faire. The bedrock of the system is greed, we have that hammered into us from day one. All of that simply ignores that greed, like amost everything else in life is in different people to different degrees.
And in a system left to itself, the greediest end up with almost everything. Here in America, the poorest are no longer able to live without government help, the middle class is being chipped away at, and we have billionaires telling us that there's just not enough money to have pension systems any more, just one of the many pains they have to endure.
Note, I know that the US isn't Laissez-faire capitalism, but it is an example of greed running the show.
And before anyone goes with the socialist name calling, any of the other systems will fail when pursued idealistically. Gotta have a balance, and we don't.
Criminal nonsense! The models "prove" what happened. We have a graph shaped like a hockey stick that shows the heavy bombardment started 4 BYA. It's proven science, 97.36% of scientists agree. These cheese-heads are true deniers! If there was more money and power involved in this research I'm sure they would be publicly disgraced and banned from further grant money.
Actually, my dear anti-science, echo chamber bubble boy, your sarcasm shows that you just don't get it.
Scientists are saying that something they thought was right, may now be wrong.
The exact opposite of your stupid rant. It's the exact thing you claim they do not do Try to self correct..
Typical distortion-field bullshit. For a decade Apple says that PowerPC is better than Intel, then as soon as they switch all of a sudden it was never about the hardware.
Insightful?
Siddown, and le Uncle Ol give ya some learnin' Cuz you got yerself a mighty fine distortin' field going yourself, if I do say so.
The PowerPC was a mighty fine piece of CPU. But there was one really big problem with it. 'n it were a doozie.
It was too damn big. I had me a dual core G5 Powermac back in th' 2 ought ought 5 day, and the heat sink and the CPU were around the size of a Mac mini.
It generated a lot of heat too, I had 4 fans in the damn thing, and when I was doing 3-D rendering, it was like a Thunderscreech takin' off. Okay, I exaggerate, a 707.
But it was a fine piece of computin' at the time.
But those honkin' CPU's were hell to fit inside a Macbook - they were a nuisance inside a G5 iMac as well, generatin' plenty of heat. And IBM never ever came up with a small enough PowerPC CPU. Even if they could stuff one in a happy, jus imagine all that heat a-crispin yer testicles up. Yowee!
Soooo, old Apple, they just figgerd that rather than fall behind in the pony power department in it's laptops, and that IBM was never gonna smallify them G5 chips enough - they done went Intel, and they done went to Unix.
Shore made Uncle Ol happy when they done did that.
And now you know.........The rest of the story. - Apologies to Paul Harvey.
In an ideal world, yes.
Those of us with jobs, children who need to go to school, and any other activity that is scheduled in the evening or morning don't have that luxury.
I'm not certain I understand. I'm certainly up longer than anyone in my household, so I don't inconvenience anyone. Rather, I spend time waiting for things while others sleep.
I don't consider it an inconvenience though, it's just how different people have different habits or needs.
For variable values of "improvements". Some people (usually ones with a lot of experience and insights) think that the makers of systemd do not understand how Unix works or how to do professional system administration and hence view systemd rightfully as a step backwards.
So what? Use BSD, and revel in your superiority. If it is better, it will take over in no time.
From what I have read from y'all, it simply does not work, causes cancer, and will make your dog run away, and your wife either leave you or come back - whichever situation you don't want.
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Its a problem. A big one.
But are we going to start arresting earthquakes and sending them to Gitmo now?
Anyhow, there are some number (I don't know how high nor am I qualified to speculate on the percentage) of officers who see this as a benefit.
If I were a policeman, I'd definitely record every second I was on duty.
But aside from cameras, I think the best tactic is to avoid unneeded escalation.
There were a few times when I was younger that it was obvious the cop was trying to escalate the situation.
My favorite was near Philadelphia, where my wife - then girlfriend was going to riding school. Her, one of her friends at school, and I were out for a drive one evening. I saw I was going down a deadend road, so I pulled in a drive to turn around. Suddenly lights flashing a cop pulled in behind me, and a cop gets out. I give him my info, and he asks "What were you doing in these people's driveway?" I told him turning around and I did it very politely. "He said, no you weren't," and I said "Really officer, I wanted to turn around before the road ended" At that point, he started with "I don't like your attitude, Punk."
Oddly enough, my wife and her friend de-escalated the situation. Both were pretty hot barely legals at the time, and her friend was blessed with a southern accent.
"Oh really officer, she drawled, we are attending this riding school just up the road, and Ol was just takin' his lady friend and myself out for a little drive to relax a little, we certainly didn't mean any harm turnin' into these folks driveway." My "lady friend" picked up on the drill, and she started flirting with the cop. Then they all start chatting. Finally, he gave me my license and insurance papers back, and said to the girls. "You all have a good evening ladies."
They laughed, and it's funny now, but at that point I was really pissed off, and a little grateful.. Cop was ready to bust me badly, and a couple hotties flirted him into submission.
So the increase in crime should correlate with places that have relaxed drug laws. I didn't see that in the results. Where are you getting your statistics from?
Fox News and the 700 Club.
Maybe we could just take them all off the street and let everyone wear a gun and handle their own justice? Wonder how that would work out? I know already anytime I have to take a trip to Atlanta to visit Emory University Hospital Midtown that I pack heat. It's gotten to the point that it's not paranoia anymore, they really are out to get you. It's not the fucking police I'm worried about either. They're the lightweights.
Because if everyone is packing heat, the world will shoot first, and let the Flying Spaghetti Monster handle it.
Can you tell me of a universally armed place that is peaceful where everyone is carrying?
And don't pull the NRA required bullshit that I am anti-gun either, lest ye be labeld a true kook. I'm not, and never will be. I just find the idea of kooks with guns to be about as charming as police in M1A1's. A lot of them are itchin' to dispatch people as well.
This is mostly true now, to be honest. When they first started it was quite frequently in the news about how the officers didn't like them. I think they changed, to some extent (you still see some complaining about them on sites like Reddit or Voat for example - I'm sure others), when they realized it also got rid of some of the bullshit complaints about abuses that simply didn't happen. I suspect it's the same ones that complained then that complain now. I don't see it as hypocrisy, I see them as wrong but not hypocritical.
And don't forget, it could show people attacking the officers. In an world approaching normalcy, all that stuff would even out.
It took about 10 minutes for a medical response on site from 911. So why is it wrong to get the ambulance rolling before alerting Security that there's one coming in?
So the Ambulance just takes off sirens blaring, and miraculously gets to the right place? My place has ten different buildings.
Having someone call security or whatever number you are supposed to call gets everything started, they've been trained to be calm and direct people to the right place.
In addition, I don't know how all other places do it, but for us, multiple people were trained in CPR and Defib on all the floors. They would get there even before security.
The time saved by knowing how to defibrillate instead of reading the instructions first is pretty critical. Those badboys save lives, but there are ways to injure bystanders or helpers if you don't know what you are doing. They made those of us who trained on them pay real close attention. Ten minutes waiting for EMT's just doesn't hack it. Seconds count, and Security getting there in 2 minutes helps, but if there are a couple trained in every office, they are likely to be there in seconds.
How long does it take security to get someone at the gate to point the ambulance to the right building?
Why would you even ask that? You figure that the Ambulance people would know how to get there if only security wasn't there? In our place - seconds. If at a remote site, whoever was working on the person would continue, and someone would be directed to go outside to wherever the EMT's were going to show up. Security is acting as a proxy 911 to get things started. Soon as the EMT's get on site, they take over. The victim can be under almost constant attendance.
In most cases, employees are banned from calling 911 to reduce the chances of false alarms that would generate callouts.
Banning is such an odd word. These systems are put in place to save lives, and not to dismiss false alarms. If I called 911 from my desk, it would give them the name of the University - hey now, only about 40,000 different people and thousands of offices to choose from.
A huge operation over many miles just isn't like calling from your house. Safety teams have been put together to help people not die on the premises. There's all kinds of bad publicity, and investigations and lawsuits that happen after one of these unfortunate events. So even aside from a humanitarian outlook, there is a real strong reason to work efficiently in keeping people from assuming room temperature on your property, and saving someone makes for a lot of feelgood.
So if you aren't an idiot, and can identify a real emergency from a fake one, you should always call 911 first, regardless of the company policy. Why are you against people thinking for themselves?
Because if you violate company policy, and the person dies because the ambulance cant find the place and the family sues, the company will point that out that procedures were not followed. By you. You are bypassing the people who are trained to do this, and assuming responsibility yourself. Good Samaritan laws are for good Samaritans, and disregarding protocol is often not covered.
We were even trained in this (by the first responders) to start what was needed, CPR Defib, or wound compression, and start barking out orders to people to call the official number. I was protected under good Samaritan laws, but only if I followed protocol - say I told people ot not call the number because "I got this" - then I would be in trouble, and most likely liable, as well as a freaking idiot.
I fear you're thinking this is some kind of dodge on the companies part. It isn't, and it works pretty well.
The wheel is coming, and with it, changing of the world in ways we have no idea of. Stressing cavemen and no one is able to do anything about it.
And humans are cross-breeding plants to create suppressants - some think that these plants may take over the world, or poison us.
Ugh, I forgot that I lasted about two chapters into that book back in the day before declaring it lawn protection fodder.
Dvorak is derived from sustained wind speed and pressure. The wind speeds are so high, and the pressures so low on this storm that they exceed the theoretical maximum (8.0) listed for Dvorak.
I assume they calculated it at 8.3 by extrapolating from the existing scale.
No - This hurricane goes the whole way to 11.
I am talking about phones only, jerk.
I may be a jerk, but I do know that a smartphone isn't an alternative equivalent to an automobile.
So, you're saying spending two hours a day doing some solo activity is better than spending 1 hour per day driving and 1 hour with my family? No wonder the world is so fucked.
These tools think that using FaceBook while sitting in a bus is interfacing with their family.
Using a car isn't wasting time; using public transportation is wasting time.
You have that exactly right
As an example - the bus schedule from my work to home means I either take off work a half hour early, or wait at the stop for 45 minutes. Then it takes a circuitous route on campus and through town, then shopping centers.
So in comparison for my two mile home to work trip leaving at 5:00 p.m.:
Bus ride = 1 hour 45 minutes
Walking home = 40 minutes
Drive home = 10 minutes
So I can take off the 45 minute wait in the morning for the bus, and come up with around 3 hours a day of worthless time spent riding the bus. Walking is great except for the winter, and bicycling along some of those roads is suicidal and sweaty.
To me at least, "The freedom of not having a car" is NewSpeak.
forgot to mention taxes (which are there, and parking in city areas)
So are you planning on living in a tent in the woods to avoid all costs of living except for your smartphone?
Smartphones are just another consumption device, and you'd be more precise comparing it to Televisions than autos.
Having both, there is about zero crossover between the two.
Driving is not only wasting time, but squandering money.
Spending all your time glued to that smartphone is a fine way to use time wisely. Seeing some of my friend's phone bills is enlightening as well.
It's different priorities. The Generation That Never Looked Up waste plenty of time and money on their little addiction.
I took apart 2-3 clocks growing up. Where's my medal?
As I recall, he was arrested, not get a medal.
The knowledge that if this crap happens on their watch, the executives will be the ones they go after. Because as long as they don't do anything of consequence, there's no incentive for executives to stop doing crap like this.
But you and I both know there will be new laws that punish the consumer, while the execs will be shielded from prosecution. All I know is someone in the mailroom probably was blamed for this.
Hell, that's cheaper than paying baksheesh to politicians.
This sounds like a mere cost of doing business, like replacing ceiling lamps.
I don't think it's simply greed.
Sure, There are many things to the idea of accumulating more than others.
My wife has an acquaintance for whom everything is a competition. If we spend 10K on a cruise, you can bet she'll be soon bragging about spending much more than that.
It gets really nuts though when she's competing with me for severity of allergy symptoms.
But her's is a small sampling of the desire to have more than other people - in this case mostly harmless if annoying thing. In some others that drive really kicks in
I understand passion very well. I've always had a passion for science and research that many here think is crazy. And it sorta is. If a person has no passions it sure looks that way. Long hours, overnighters, ignoring danger, and all the things most slashdotters say they won't ever do.
But if myself and my colleagues have a passion for that, it's not at all surprising that others might have a passion for pecuniary accumulation in the extreme.
Difference is, any harm we were doing was to ourselves. These folks could turn us into a banana republic.
I read the GP post as sarcasm. Look at it again.
Poe's law in action.
I don't know if they're in the majority, but clearly there are billionaires who treat their wealth as a game. So for them getting richer is a goal in itself.
It's the achilles heel of Laissez-faire. The bedrock of the system is greed, we have that hammered into us from day one. All of that simply ignores that greed, like amost everything else in life is in different people to different degrees.
And in a system left to itself, the greediest end up with almost everything. Here in America, the poorest are no longer able to live without government help, the middle class is being chipped away at, and we have billionaires telling us that there's just not enough money to have pension systems any more, just one of the many pains they have to endure.
Note, I know that the US isn't Laissez-faire capitalism, but it is an example of greed running the show.
And before anyone goes with the socialist name calling, any of the other systems will fail when pursued idealistically. Gotta have a balance, and we don't.
Don't tell the man made global warming crowd...
Actually, don't tell the deniers.
The idea that scientists are willing to say - "We might be wrong here" is the polar opposte of the denier's claims.
Criminal nonsense! The models "prove" what happened. We have a graph shaped like a hockey stick that shows the heavy bombardment started 4 BYA. It's proven science, 97.36% of scientists agree. These cheese-heads are true deniers! If there was more money and power involved in this research I'm sure they would be publicly disgraced and banned from further grant money.
Actually, my dear anti-science, echo chamber bubble boy, your sarcasm shows that you just don't get it.
Scientists are saying that something they thought was right, may now be wrong.
The exact opposite of your stupid rant. It's the exact thing you claim they do not do Try to self correct..
Typical distortion-field bullshit. For a decade Apple says that PowerPC is better than Intel, then as soon as they switch all of a sudden it was never about the hardware.
Insightful?
Siddown, and le Uncle Ol give ya some learnin' Cuz you got yerself a mighty fine distortin' field going yourself, if I do say so.
The PowerPC was a mighty fine piece of CPU. But there was one really big problem with it. 'n it were a doozie.
It was too damn big. I had me a dual core G5 Powermac back in th' 2 ought ought 5 day, and the heat sink and the CPU were around the size of a Mac mini.
It generated a lot of heat too, I had 4 fans in the damn thing, and when I was doing 3-D rendering, it was like a Thunderscreech takin' off. Okay, I exaggerate, a 707.
But it was a fine piece of computin' at the time.
But those honkin' CPU's were hell to fit inside a Macbook - they were a nuisance inside a G5 iMac as well, generatin' plenty of heat. And IBM never ever came up with a small enough PowerPC CPU. Even if they could stuff one in a happy, jus imagine all that heat a-crispin yer testicles up. Yowee!
Soooo, old Apple, they just figgerd that rather than fall behind in the pony power department in it's laptops, and that IBM was never gonna smallify them G5 chips enough - they done went Intel, and they done went to Unix.
Shore made Uncle Ol happy when they done did that.
And now you know.........The rest of the story. - Apologies to Paul Harvey.
In an ideal world, yes. Those of us with jobs, children who need to go to school, and any other activity that is scheduled in the evening or morning don't have that luxury.
I'm not certain I understand. I'm certainly up longer than anyone in my household, so I don't inconvenience anyone. Rather, I spend time waiting for things while others sleep.
I don't consider it an inconvenience though, it's just how different people have different habits or needs.
For variable values of "improvements". Some people (usually ones with a lot of experience and insights) think that the makers of systemd do not understand how Unix works or how to do professional system administration and hence view systemd rightfully as a step backwards.
So what? Use BSD, and revel in your superiority. If it is better, it will take over in no time.
From what I have read from y'all, it simply does not work, causes cancer, and will make your dog run away, and your wife either leave you or come back - whichever situation you don't want.
I've always gone to bed when I feel tired and ready, and woken up when I wake up.
I'm pretty good at 5 hours a night. I wake up, feel rested, ready to diem the carpe.
Other people might just need more, some less.
Nothing to lose sleep over, that's for certain.