Because the wires run all the way back to the the record factory. Riiiight.
I dunno - any environment I'll be listening to music with a shitty smartphone will be impossible to achieve anything like fidelity. So I don't worry about any issues like that.
Occam's explains all of this. Few people who like Apple products care about the little adapter - that's what it is, an adapter. A dongle is something else indeed, but those who are fans of Chevies, H^H^H^H^H^H^H Androids - sorry about that - just find it a talking point. You aren't likely to ever buy aniPhone, but it's oh so much fun to bitch about them. For all the excuses of why it is so damn critical to have that superannuated 18th inch ( that's 3.5 mm for the metric-only crowd) phone jack, the simple answer is that you hate apple Products, so it is yet another unforgivable assult on your finely tuned sensibilities.
Meanwhile, myself and a lot of others simply use Bluetooth like we have for years. It even works on Android phones and tablets.
Charge my phone, charge my watch, and now my headphones, too? That's FOUR things to keep track of how much charge they have!
Ermagherd! Ferst wherld Preerblerms!
Jeebuz, then just don't buy an Apple, and don't buy wireless earbuds for an Android while you are at it.
If the rumor is true - and we have the Apple haters hoping beyond hope that it is true, than its pretty likely that Apple found out that the adapter was pretty much unused.
I used mine exactly once, just to try it out. Now it sits in the desk drawer.
But I use Bluetooth except in the cases where I use studio headsets. And why I would need studio headsets on a smartphone is a mystery. Of course even then I have to use a 1/4 inch to 1/8th inch adapter to plug into the lightning adapter.
Which I'd have to use it on my Androids as well. Either way, an adapter. So I use Bluetooth on my Androids as well.
Why? Because I didn't get a wireless smartphone to have to use wires on it.
Some of us can tell the difference between a machine and a living being. Machines cannot, at this time anyway, think or feel. They do what they are programmed to do.
Of course they are. I'm rather surprised that y'all are so shallow that you don't get the purpose of these evaluations. It isn't people who think about it for a second, then turn the thing off.
It is the people at either end who are interesting. The people who cannot differentiate between a machine and actual life. As well, the people who just switch it off.
Those are the interesting groups. A normal person would hesitate for a second because the plea was very unexpected. Then they would switch it off. That isn't interesting at all. Did you think that the purpose of the test was to order pizza?
I'm bleeding heart liberal for fucks sake!
Liberals are not immune to non-empathetic behavior. The far ends of the so-called right wing/left wing spectrum are surprisingly similar. They scream that they aren't, but while their words are different, their actions speak much louder. Not to say you are far left, just that the argument means nothing to me.
You've posted about annoying ads and popups before. You've bitched about Win10's privacy invasivness. You've shut those messages off. You've showwn zero empathy, you hypocritical monster!
That makes zero sense, other than a typical howaboutism response, attempting to prove me a hypocrite bacause of ad blockers? Bizzare.
You conflated not being manipulated by a computer program with being a sociopath.
You will be a good slave. Your logic is weak and you lack the control to defend yourself from manipulation.
You will serve well.
Flarg - If you want to know what I would have done, is I would have paused at the point where the "robot" protested that turning it off was killing it. At that point, I would have realized the actual purpose of the test. Bercause that's how these tests are done, where the people doing the test lie about what is going to happen. Just how this stuff works.
Now it is easy to understand that the thing is a robot, not a living entity. The unexpected would cause the pause, and shows thought. But my analysis would lead me to that pretty quickly and I would then shut it off.
The people that the psych's are interested in are the people on the ends - the people who cannot figure out that it wasn't a living thing, and those who do not care - like you. I''ve already done a psych analysis on you from your postings, and it is no surprise, your response, to either the test, or to me. I do judge, and you are a sociopath.
As for making a good slave, you are quite wrong. I think and am quite capable of rebellion. And never confuse good manners and a level of empathy with weakness.
I wouldn't want to live in a world where adults didn't have sentimentality or empathy.
Sometimes you need someone to pull the plug without mercy. When my father was dying from cancer in the hospital, I was the designated the plug puller because he knew I would make the decision without delay.
That was the empathetic response. In my estimation the people who kept Terry Schiavo on life support for years after she was dead are the real sociopaths. Selfish to the core, not caring about the damage it was doing to her husband, and acting as if he was the murderer.
Back at that time, when Republicans went batshit crazy on the issue, when President Bush cut a vacation short so the Federal Government - run by small government Republicans and no doubt - could intervene over this issue and intrude on the most personal aspects of citizen's lives. I suspect that if Hurricane Katrina came through the area where Terri Schiavo was held, they would have sent Airforce One or Two to extract her while leaving real live humans to die.
There are fates worse than death, and allowing a person to die can be the most merciful action another can take.
Indeed, but it is a good thing that some adults paused to consider, what if they're wrong. No harm was done by not turning the robot off. Yeah, it seems irrational on the surface, but that apparent "irrationality" is what has made human society possible. It's a hold over from our instincts to look after and protect one another.
There are of course, people who have zero empathy. And these people wouldn't have a problem switching it off.
They also are people that need a close scrutiny. It isn't because of the "It's a stupid robot" issue. It's because any person on the normal spectrum is going to pause to reflect at least a short time if something is begging not to kill it. If for nothing else than it being a completely unexpected situation, but more so that most humans are sorta hardwired to not kill withous a good reason.
Humans are a violent and aggressive species. We wouldn't even be here if we had no empathy at all because we'd kill others over nothing and enjoy it. There are plenty enough of those in the world already. Some of them are in here.
Having forgotten psychological diseases are fabricated tools of this system has led to changes in how children are raised. Generation after generation of parenting based on "child psychology" has resulted in astronomical suicide rates that blow away the worst of anything bullies in high school showers ever caused.
If I were presented with such a robot, it would be switched off sooner and probably smashed for being so annoying.
Emotional immaturity and anti-social personality disorder. Your response to sympathy is to attack and destroy the thing that makes you feel that way.
Finally - a sane person. Humans are mostly innately empathetic, so these tools who are acting like it is foolish are just exposing their sociopathic personalities. Make no mistake, they'd probably get a thrill out of killing a human who is begging for their life if they could do it without repercussion. Regardless, Q is looking for these folks.
Seriously, are these services only used by terminally naive people?
Pretty much yes.
If you ever see a commercial, it is a woman standing there, going on about how surprised she was to find out that she is some small percentage native American or Slovakian, and how interesting that is. Narcissism, replete.
This is not unlike those stupid Facebook adverts where a person goes to some web page, fills in a bunch of personal info, then Facebook shows up with a spot saying "Fred Fart is a gentleman of old, a great friend and a powerful enemy" or "If you can't handle Suzy at her worst, you don't deserve her at her best."
And just like the personal information from those Facebook vanity pages is gathered and sent to outfits like Cambridge Analytica, the 23 and me genetic data is already in the hands of people who will weaponize it as needed.
I'd promise that, but promises aren't worth squat. They are actually worth less than squat, they are clues. Well, I guess that's worth something.
The same emergency services that force volunteers to take mandatory certificate classes to do things like firefighting.
Nope. Running a radio gateway is nothing like firefighting. It requires a ham license, but if you think the FCC is going to force people to buy fully redundant hardware to run a radio gateway you're nuttier than a loon. If you think that buying fully redundant PC hardware is going to solve the problem, then sit back and watch as both systems choose to update at the same time, installing the same broken patch that makes the systems crash. Redundancy bought you nothing.
Emergency comms are no different. Certification after certification. Background checks, including financial.
Excuse my French, but you are full of shit.
Oh you poor poor sad man. Try to get into our center without a background check. Allow the evidence..... Here is a pdf from York County ARES Races emcomm group. It is typical of most. http://www.w3hzu.com/content/e....
Here is the relevant text
1. Applicants must undergo a Pennsylvania State Police Criminal Record check (no cost). This is Criminal Record only, not a financial check. Minimum age for this application is 18. YOU must request a background check via PATCH using the following link:
You fail, you simply do not get in.
Background checks have been part of the American Red Cross volunteer process for many years. After the hurricanes of 2005, mandatory background checks for employees and volunteers were instituted. Red Cross continues to affirm our accountability to the American public. The background check initiative will help us achieve a more efficient and safer work environment for our employees and volunteers.
There are many more links if you care to Google.
You wrote with great assurance and authority:
There are no background checks of any kind, much less financial, and no certification other than a basic amateur radio license, required to operate the gateways I am talking about.
You are wrong. You are not even wrong. I have had many background checks in my situation as a technical advisor to an emergency communications group. Required even. Certifications likewise. It makes for a problem with volunteers with time, as well as many do not like the instant "thanks for volunteering, but we think you might be a criminal or a pedophile". The tests used to be sent in by the agency, but were changed to the individual being investigated to try to help with the falloff in volunteers. The idea was that if you flunked the background investigation, you could just keep it to yourself, instead of having the whole town hear about it through the grapevine. It isn't working, probably because volunteers don't like that in addition to all of the certifications..
Seriously Obscufant, do a little background searching before you embarass yourself, and compounding it witth scatological insults just makes you look pretty bad.
companies building walled garden appstores for their phones, and steam doing the same thing
I’m not a typical user, but I’m willing to put up with a walled garden on my iPad.
FYI - iOS is not a walled garden. Windows and Android users just like to say that. I can and do write for it, and you could use what I write - not that you would, but you could.
They are just a lot more careful on what they allow in their app store. That's a good thing.
I usually agree with that but this time there is something different.
People hate paying... seing a monthly bill reminding you you are paying this every month... they might get onboard at first but after a few months of paying... they might get frustrated and leave.
Exactly this! My wife threw a fit when I told her about Adobe Creative Cloud. Even with my academic discount. Purchase is a one time fee, and rental is forever. Even with a lot of new versions, it's just easier to handle the concept. And until they decide to kill my version of the Creative Suite, I'll be on it.
And 95% of office workers in the world use a subset of what I just mentioned. The number of people who use heavyweight software like video editing or photoshop is maybe 1% of the office world.
My video editing, sound editing and Photoshop needs are taken care of in fine fashion by my Mac.
So anyhow - as the least common denominator we are supposed to use what you demand? Sorry - in the LCD world, yuou are going to have to get used to doing your work on a smartphone. Perhaps one of those cheap Chinese ones. THey save everything you do.
I admit, the last time I tried to convert to Mint has been about a year ago, maybe by now the drivers have caught up.
What drivers were you missing? It's been since the oughts that I've had a driver issue with Linux - in fact now I've had better driver support with Linux than Windows.
Who is this "emergency services" who will be ordered to buy and run duplicate systems, and how will these duplicate computers know that one should update while the other does not? Who pays the VOLUNTEERS who are using their own money to run these systems to provide this redundancy?
The same emergency services that force volunteers to take mandatory certificate classes to do things like firefighting.
Emergency comms are no different. Certification after certification. Background checks, including financial.
And yes, there are problems getting smart people to become volunteer responders. It is getting winnowed down to whackers.
Strange thing is thje people forcing this on volunteers have no idea why.
So yeah, the orders will come down that you have to have a computer running Windows as a service if the powers that be decide to make it so.
Just wait. That's next, right after they mandate what you have to buy at the local eateries, what kind of transportation you must use to get to the eatery, what you must wear, what you must say when ordering your food, how you have to say it, and...
Dood! you really have to stop after the 5th espresso!
So, I was not aware that all the mice dads were in the drive-thru at McDonald's and ordering Domino's while playing Nintendo on the couch. What news that is!
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Because the wires run all the way back to the the record factory. Riiiight.
I dunno - any environment I'll be listening to music with a shitty smartphone will be impossible to achieve anything like fidelity. So I don't worry about any issues like that.
Occam's explains all of this. Few people who like Apple products care about the little adapter - that's what it is, an adapter. A dongle is something else indeed, but those who are fans of Chevies, H^H^H^H^H^H^H Androids - sorry about that - just find it a talking point. You aren't likely to ever buy aniPhone, but it's oh so much fun to bitch about them. For all the excuses of why it is so damn critical to have that superannuated 18th inch ( that's 3.5 mm for the metric-only crowd) phone jack, the simple answer is that you hate apple Products, so it is yet another unforgivable assult on your finely tuned sensibilities.
Meanwhile, myself and a lot of others simply use Bluetooth like we have for years. It even works on Android phones and tablets.
Charge my phone, charge my watch, and now my headphones, too? That's FOUR things to keep track of how much charge they have!
Ermagherd! Ferst wherld Preerblerms!
Jeebuz, then just don't buy an Apple, and don't buy wireless earbuds for an Android while you are at it.
If the rumor is true - and we have the Apple haters hoping beyond hope that it is true, than its pretty likely that Apple found out that the adapter was pretty much unused.
I used mine exactly once, just to try it out. Now it sits in the desk drawer.
But I use Bluetooth except in the cases where I use studio headsets. And why I would need studio headsets on a smartphone is a mystery. Of course even then I have to use a 1/4 inch to 1/8th inch adapter to plug into the lightning adapter.
Which I'd have to use it on my Androids as well. Either way, an adapter. So I use Bluetooth on my Androids as well.
Why? Because I didn't get a wireless smartphone to have to use wires on it.
So you've apparently developed X Man mind reading powers.
Another internet psychic.
Not a bit of mind reading here my Good Karmashock. Just reading what you post.
You don't know me.
I haven't gone to the trouble to learn you real name if that's what you mean.
You likely are unqualified to make professional estimations of any merit even if you did know me.
Perhaps, perhaps not.
Save your silly self defeating insults for someone simple enough for them to work.
I kinda did. ;^)
Some of us can tell the difference between a machine and a living being. Machines cannot, at this time anyway, think or feel. They do what they are programmed to do.
Of course they are. I'm rather surprised that y'all are so shallow that you don't get the purpose of these evaluations. It isn't people who think about it for a second, then turn the thing off.
It is the people at either end who are interesting. The people who cannot differentiate between a machine and actual life. As well, the people who just switch it off.
Those are the interesting groups. A normal person would hesitate for a second because the plea was very unexpected. Then they would switch it off. That isn't interesting at all. Did you think that the purpose of the test was to order pizza?
I'm bleeding heart liberal for fucks sake!
Liberals are not immune to non-empathetic behavior. The far ends of the so-called right wing/left wing spectrum are surprisingly similar. They scream that they aren't, but while their words are different, their actions speak much louder. Not to say you are far left, just that the argument means nothing to me.
You've posted about annoying ads and popups before. You've bitched about Win10's privacy invasivness. You've shut those messages off. You've showwn zero empathy, you hypocritical monster!
That makes zero sense, other than a typical howaboutism response, attempting to prove me a hypocrite bacause of ad blockers? Bizzare.
You conflated not being manipulated by a computer program with being a sociopath.
You will be a good slave. Your logic is weak and you lack the control to defend yourself from manipulation.
You will serve well.
Flarg - If you want to know what I would have done, is I would have paused at the point where the "robot" protested that turning it off was killing it. At that point, I would have realized the actual purpose of the test. Bercause that's how these tests are done, where the people doing the test lie about what is going to happen. Just how this stuff works.
Now it is easy to understand that the thing is a robot, not a living entity. The unexpected would cause the pause, and shows thought. But my analysis would lead me to that pretty quickly and I would then shut it off.
The people that the psych's are interested in are the people on the ends - the people who cannot figure out that it wasn't a living thing, and those who do not care - like you. I''ve already done a psych analysis on you from your postings, and it is no surprise, your response, to either the test, or to me. I do judge, and you are a sociopath.
As for making a good slave, you are quite wrong. I think and am quite capable of rebellion. And never confuse good manners and a level of empathy with weakness.
I wouldn't want to live in a world where adults didn't have sentimentality or empathy.
Sometimes you need someone to pull the plug without mercy. When my father was dying from cancer in the hospital, I was the designated the plug puller because he knew I would make the decision without delay.
That was the empathetic response. In my estimation the people who kept Terry Schiavo on life support for years after she was dead are the real sociopaths. Selfish to the core, not caring about the damage it was doing to her husband, and acting as if he was the murderer.
Back at that time, when Republicans went batshit crazy on the issue, when President Bush cut a vacation short so the Federal Government - run by small government Republicans and no doubt - could intervene over this issue and intrude on the most personal aspects of citizen's lives. I suspect that if Hurricane Katrina came through the area where Terri Schiavo was held, they would have sent Airforce One or Two to extract her while leaving real live humans to die.
There are fates worse than death, and allowing a person to die can be the most merciful action another can take.
Indeed, but it is a good thing that some adults paused to consider, what if they're wrong. No harm was done by not turning the robot off. Yeah, it seems irrational on the surface, but that apparent "irrationality" is what has made human society possible. It's a hold over from our instincts to look after and protect one another.
There are of course, people who have zero empathy. And these people wouldn't have a problem switching it off.
They also are people that need a close scrutiny. It isn't because of the "It's a stupid robot" issue. It's because any person on the normal spectrum is going to pause to reflect at least a short time if something is begging not to kill it. If for nothing else than it being a completely unexpected situation, but more so that most humans are sorta hardwired to not kill withous a good reason.
Humans are a violent and aggressive species. We wouldn't even be here if we had no empathy at all because we'd kill others over nothing and enjoy it. There are plenty enough of those in the world already. Some of them are in here.
Having forgotten psychological diseases are fabricated tools of this system has led to changes in how children are raised. Generation after generation of parenting based on "child psychology" has resulted in astronomical suicide rates that blow away the worst of anything bullies in high school showers ever caused.
You chatbots are really good any more.
If I were presented with such a robot, it would be switched off sooner and probably smashed for being so annoying.
Emotional immaturity and anti-social personality disorder. Your response to sympathy is to attack and destroy the thing that makes you feel that way.
Finally - a sane person. Humans are mostly innately empathetic, so these tools who are acting like it is foolish are just exposing their sociopathic personalities. Make no mistake, they'd probably get a thrill out of killing a human who is begging for their life if they could do it without repercussion. Regardless, Q is looking for these folks.
The kind of sentimentality that permits that to work is outright dangerous in an adult.
Looks like the sociopath showed up.
Seriously, are these services only used by terminally naive people?
Pretty much yes.
If you ever see a commercial, it is a woman standing there, going on about how surprised she was to find out that she is some small percentage native American or Slovakian, and how interesting that is. Narcissism, replete.
This is not unlike those stupid Facebook adverts where a person goes to some web page, fills in a bunch of personal info, then Facebook shows up with a spot saying "Fred Fart is a gentleman of old, a great friend and a powerful enemy" or "If you can't handle Suzy at her worst, you don't deserve her at her best."
And just like the personal information from those Facebook vanity pages is gathered and sent to outfits like Cambridge Analytica, the 23 and me genetic data is already in the hands of people who will weaponize it as needed.
I'd promise that, but promises aren't worth squat. They are actually worth less than squat, they are clues. Well, I guess that's worth something.
The same emergency services that force volunteers to take mandatory certificate classes to do things like firefighting.
Nope. Running a radio gateway is nothing like firefighting. It requires a ham license, but if you think the FCC is going to force people to buy fully redundant hardware to run a radio gateway you're nuttier than a loon. If you think that buying fully redundant PC hardware is going to solve the problem, then sit back and watch as both systems choose to update at the same time, installing the same broken patch that makes the systems crash. Redundancy bought you nothing.
Well okay, but I don't know what that had to do with what I wrote. I was writing about the ARES, Ares level 2 and ARES level 1 certifications. Then there is the CERT classes https://www.ready.gov/communit... , and their 8 extra modules, SkyWarn http://www.cert-emcomm.net/sky... . Then we go down the FEMA rabbithole. https://training.fema.gov/is/c...
Emergency comms are no different. Certification after certification. Background checks, including financial.
Excuse my French, but you are full of shit.
Oh you poor poor sad man. Try to get into our center without a background check. Allow the evidence..... Here is a pdf from York County ARES Races emcomm group. It is typical of most. http://www.w3hzu.com/content/e....
Here is the relevant text
1. Applicants must undergo a Pennsylvania State Police Criminal Record check (no cost). This is Criminal Record only, not a financial check. Minimum age for this application is 18. YOU must request a background check via PATCH using the following link: You fail, you simply do not get in.
Next up the Red Cross, who do have a financial background check http://www.redcross.org/local/...
In this case, the relevant text is:
Background checks have been part of the American Red Cross volunteer process for many years. After the hurricanes of 2005, mandatory background checks for employees and volunteers were instituted. Red Cross continues to affirm our accountability to the American public. The background check initiative will help us achieve a more efficient and safer work environment for our employees and volunteers.
There are many more links if you care to Google.
You wrote with great assurance and authority:
There are no background checks of any kind, much less financial, and no certification other than a basic amateur radio license, required to operate the gateways I am talking about.
You are wrong. You are not even wrong. I have had many background checks in my situation as a technical advisor to an emergency communications group. Required even. Certifications likewise. It makes for a problem with volunteers with time, as well as many do not like the instant "thanks for volunteering, but we think you might be a criminal or a pedophile". The tests used to be sent in by the agency, but were changed to the individual being investigated to try to help with the falloff in volunteers. The idea was that if you flunked the background investigation, you could just keep it to yourself, instead of having the whole town hear about it through the grapevine. It isn't working, probably because volunteers don't like that in addition to all of the certifications..
Seriously Obscufant, do a little background searching before you embarass yourself, and compounding it witth scatological insults just makes you look pretty bad.
I’m not a typical user, but I’m willing to put up with a walled garden on my iPad.
FYI - iOS is not a walled garden. Windows and Android users just like to say that. I can and do write for it, and you could use what I write - not that you would, but you could.
They are just a lot more careful on what they allow in their app store. That's a good thing.
I usually agree with that but this time there is something different.
People hate paying... seing a monthly bill reminding you you are paying this every month... they might get onboard at first but after a few months of paying... they might get frustrated and leave.
Exactly this! My wife threw a fit when I told her about Adobe Creative Cloud. Even with my academic discount. Purchase is a one time fee, and rental is forever. Even with a lot of new versions, it's just easier to handle the concept. And until they decide to kill my version of the Creative Suite, I'll be on it.
And 95% of office workers in the world use a subset of what I just mentioned. The number of people who use heavyweight software like video editing or photoshop is maybe 1% of the office world.
My video editing, sound editing and Photoshop needs are taken care of in fine fashion by my Mac.
So anyhow - as the least common denominator we are supposed to use what you demand? Sorry - in the LCD world, yuou are going to have to get used to doing your work on a smartphone. Perhaps one of those cheap Chinese ones. THey save everything you do.
I admit, the last time I tried to convert to Mint has been about a year ago, maybe by now the drivers have caught up.
What drivers were you missing? It's been since the oughts that I've had a driver issue with Linux - in fact now I've had better driver support with Linux than Windows.
Who is this "emergency services" who will be ordered to buy and run duplicate systems, and how will these duplicate computers know that one should update while the other does not? Who pays the VOLUNTEERS who are using their own money to run these systems to provide this redundancy?
The same emergency services that force volunteers to take mandatory certificate classes to do things like firefighting.
Emergency comms are no different. Certification after certification. Background checks, including financial.
And yes, there are problems getting smart people to become volunteer responders. It is getting winnowed down to whackers.
Strange thing is thje people forcing this on volunteers have no idea why.
So yeah, the orders will come down that you have to have a computer running Windows as a service if the powers that be decide to make it so.
Just wait. That's next, right after they mandate what you have to buy at the local eateries, what kind of transportation you must use to get to the eatery, what you must wear, what you must say when ordering your food, how you have to say it, and...
Dood! you really have to stop after the 5th espresso!
I'd care more about your bitterness if you could spell 'feces' properly.
The correct spelling is faeces. He dropped one letter. You dropped another instead.
At these times we have to ask ourselves, does "fecal matter? " or "Does faecal matter?"
Regardless, were all in here talking shit.
Saying "I read it in a paper somewhere" does not make an argument "rooted in science".
So true! I read that in a paper somewhere.
Cuing a bunch of trolls, bots, and shills to come bitch about how batteries are useless in a hypothetical climate they've already destroyed.
I haz da popcorn and Tequila.
This climate change thing is going to make my retirement a joy!
Meanwhile we're drowning here in the rainy Northeast.
Its like its weather or something.
So, I was not aware that all the mice dads were in the drive-thru at McDonald's and ordering Domino's while playing Nintendo on the couch. What news that is!
Men are all like that.
The one about Heathcliff and mansplaining are soooooo ludicrous that it is not funny anymore. Not even remotely. More like fucking tragedy....
So yhea, your post reads like a classical "exaggerate reality for comic effect" tease....unfortunately you did not exaggerate at all....
The poster was a true Poe. I've read virtually identical work, the only difference was that the other screeds I've read were serious.
The only real clue to differentiate between Poe and Serious Feminist Academic was that it was posted as AC.
Heathcliff - srsly? Takes a special kind of weak to be damaged by that.
Well...you're not going to solve it.
~Loyal
I see. It is good to know that you have the answer.
So anyhow, share that solution with us - I'm on pins and needles here.