You'd still be able to do that with an X server running on top of Wayland, and there are various ways Wayland apps can be displayed on a remote server, avan on top of X.
P.S. I would love to have some guarantees that X would survive and I would be able to run a GUI app remotely, but something tells me that the days when I was taking that for granted are counted.
Wayland should be able to support remote applications, it just probably won't use the X11 protocol. I've read that some of the possibilities for remote applications in Wayland are more efficient than the X11 protocol (though that doesn't mean they can't be used with X).
What's motivating Wayland-adoption is, I believe, a desire not for fancy animations and useless effects, but for smoother graphics. Nowadays there are all kinds of glitches and other imperfections. Also, Wayland is supposed to make the process of drawing graphics on the screen more efficient somehow and simplify the graphics stack or stuff like that.
It would be good if there was a practice of entrusting the code and all game assets to some foundation that would release the full game under an open-source license 20 years after release.
Most people I know don't want to customize anything, they just want to use their computers to accomplish a task. The difference between an ordinary user and a super l337 hacker who goes as far as adding panel applets is huge.
There's no point in pirating software on Linux, since almost all the worthwhile apps on it are free. If someone wanted to pirate software, he'd use Windows, since the selection is much greater.
To a certain extent, I agree. KDE's goals and future are breathtaking, but in terms of implementation not all the planned features have been implemented yet, and UIs are still being redesigned from scratch. I think of it as still being in development, but putting on a brave face on things by putting out the most usable and polished product they can manage under the circumstances. To me, KDE 4 won't be "ready" until all the major features have been fully implemented and integrated and the UI and interaction models stabilize. Nevertheless, I want to start using it ASAP, so I'll go for the first release I feel comfortable with, regardless of "readiness".
Why would Canonical pay to have Dell preinstall Ubuntu? That doesn't make any sense. If anything, Dell might pay Canonical to help them to properly set up Ubuntu on the Dell machines.
How does an anonymous counting of active installs violate privacy? All this does is say to the server "I exist" without specifying who you are. The worst case scenario is that the server records the IP address the info comes from, and therefor knows that at date such and such IP this and that was used by an Ubuntu machine of a certain HW model. Where is the violation of privacy? There is no *private* information here.
"I'm aware of techbase. It's not really helpful. Let me give an example. Suppose I want to write a Plasmoid. Okay, let's start at techbase.kde.org. Under "Discover" I click on "Developing with KDE." Fine so far. Now what do I click? It's hard to say -- I want an API reference. Nevertheless, I figure out that I need to click on "KDE Architecture." Okay, now I click on "KDE 4 Architecture Overview." Ooh, I finally see a link to "Plasma - the Desktop." I click it."
At techbase.kde.org under Developing with KDE have a link to API Documentation. At http://techbase.kde.org/Development under KDE Architecture there's another link to API Documentation.
KOffice has only one codebase, so you would use the exact same version regardless of OS. Therefor it must mean that the bulk of the work is on porting the KDE4 platform.
I fail to see why the licensing of Qt3 has any bearing on KOffice2, since KOffice2 uses Qt4.
KOffice2 uses option 1. It's written for the KDE4 platform, which has implementations for Mac OSX and Windows. Interestingly, however, it seems that the widgets at least use the native Windows theme, if not that they use the Windows widgets themselves (this is evident from the heap of screenshots). The Icons, however, are the Oxygen icons.
"you are -- subjectively, and in my opinion -- a moron." - why?
BTW, thank you for your pointers, I just wanted to know that you have something beyond your personal bias backing your claims, but I still might check them out.
sounds like he identified a real problem, but reached the wrong conclusions based on partial information.
Rush Limbaugh is a habitual lier.
please bring concrete examples.
I have no doubt that if HE had Parkinson's, HE would play up the severity of his symptoms.
you have not brought any evidence to support this claim.
The guy who championed family values has been married and divorced three times.
and what exactly is wrong with divorce? family values isn't about sticking together no matter how much you totally can't stand each other. if you would have said he cheated on his wives that would be a different matter.
What I have a real problem with is people who force the world into their view, like the Europeans making nation states out of the Arab tribes they conquered. Why not try to understand reality according to what it is, rather than according to how you would like it to be? not all people want to just live and let live. some have ideals beyond just surviving, or material thriving. some people won't be nice to you just because you are nice to them. bullies get encouraged by weakness. worse of all, real hate exists today, no less than before. the best way to get rid of racism is to stop using racist term like "African American" or "white".
different people have different goals, and they can conflict. therefor, progress for liberalism is total backwardness for a conservatism. what I really can't take is when people assume only their ideals exist, so therefor when conservatives make progress on their goals, it annoys me that liberals talk as if it's objectively moronic because it conflicts with the liberal's goals. it is not moronic, it is simply an attempt to solve a completely different problem that arises from having a completely different purpose. it would be moronic if it was trying to solve a problem the liberals face, but it doesn't.
Slashdot Mirror
I watched the video on their site, and afterwards YouTube showed a video for this:
mywowcomputer.com
They look identical except for the logo. Is one of them a clone?
You'd still be able to do that with an X server running on top of Wayland, and there are various ways Wayland apps can be displayed on a remote server, avan on top of X.
P.S. I would love to have some guarantees that X would survive and I would be able to run a GUI app remotely, but something tells me that the days when I was taking that for granted are counted.
Wayland should be able to support remote applications, it just probably won't use the X11 protocol. I've read that some of the possibilities for remote applications in Wayland are more efficient than the X11 protocol (though that doesn't mean they can't be used with X).
What's motivating Wayland-adoption is, I believe, a desire not for fancy animations and useless effects, but for smoother graphics. Nowadays there are all kinds of glitches and other imperfections. Also, Wayland is supposed to make the process of drawing graphics on the screen more efficient somehow and simplify the graphics stack or stuff like that.
It would be good if there was a practice of entrusting the code and all game assets to some foundation that would release the full game under an open-source license 20 years after release.
The premise does not support the conclusion.
Most people I know don't want to customize anything, they just want to use their computers to accomplish a task. The difference between an ordinary user and a super l337 hacker who goes as far as adding panel applets is huge.
There's no point in pirating software on Linux, since almost all the worthwhile apps on it are free. If someone wanted to pirate software, he'd use Windows, since the selection is much greater.
It's especially good for a name like KOffice. I never knew if I should pronounce it Kay Office or cofis (as in cough).
I think it has been somewhat fashionable since KDE 4.0 Alpha to use C instead of K.
To a certain extent, I agree. KDE's goals and future are breathtaking, but in terms of implementation not all the planned features have been implemented yet, and UIs are still being redesigned from scratch. I think of it as still being in development, but putting on a brave face on things by putting out the most usable and polished product they can manage under the circumstances. To me, KDE 4 won't be "ready" until all the major features have been fully implemented and integrated and the UI and interaction models stabilize. Nevertheless, I want to start using it ASAP, so I'll go for the first release I feel comfortable with, regardless of "readiness".
Then why not have GNOME reimplement itself atop KDE? GNOME UI, KDE tech, perfect combo, no?
I think it works because I is a word, and is incorporated as part of a somewhat descriptive name. I work. k work. Not the same.
Why would Canonical pay to have Dell preinstall Ubuntu? That doesn't make any sense. If anything, Dell might pay Canonical to help them to properly set up Ubuntu on the Dell machines.
How does an anonymous counting of active installs violate privacy? All this does is say to the server "I exist" without specifying who you are. The worst case scenario is that the server records the IP address the info comes from, and therefor knows that at date such and such IP this and that was used by an Ubuntu machine of a certain HW model. Where is the violation of privacy? There is no *private* information here.
I think you are talking about the package popularity contest. This is a different piece of software.
"I'm aware of techbase. It's not really helpful. Let me give an example. Suppose I want to write a Plasmoid. Okay, let's start at techbase.kde.org. Under "Discover" I click on "Developing with KDE." Fine so far. Now what do I click? It's hard to say -- I want an API reference. Nevertheless, I figure out that I need to click on "KDE Architecture." Okay, now I click on "KDE 4 Architecture Overview." Ooh, I finally see a link to "Plasma - the Desktop." I click it."
At techbase.kde.org under Developing with KDE have a link to API Documentation. At http://techbase.kde.org/Development under KDE Architecture there's another link to API Documentation.
Still, what is there is quite useless.
KOffice has only one codebase, so you would use the exact same version regardless of OS. Therefor it must mean that the bulk of the work is on porting the KDE4 platform.
I fail to see why the licensing of Qt3 has any bearing on KOffice2, since KOffice2 uses Qt4.
KOffice2 uses option 1. It's written for the KDE4 platform, which has implementations for Mac OSX and Windows. Interestingly, however, it seems that the widgets at least use the native Windows theme, if not that they use the Windows widgets themselves (this is evident from the heap of screenshots). The Icons, however, are the Oxygen icons.
The Google Gadgets developers have already created a Plasma implementation of them, similar to how MacOSX widget support is implemented. The blog of Aaron Seigo, Plasma developer About Google gadgets on plasma
MFI = Million Freakin' Interfaces?
Why not use dockable panels that can be turned into separate windows, with the GIMP remembering your setup? That way everyone would be satisfied.
wouldn't it have been easier and more obvious to try to play a multimedia file, then follow the on-screen instruction?
"you are -- subjectively, and in my opinion -- a moron." - why?
BTW, thank you for your pointers, I just wanted to know that you have something beyond your personal bias backing your claims, but I still might check them out.
sounds like he identified a real problem, but reached the wrong conclusions based on partial information.
please bring concrete examples.
you have not brought any evidence to support this claim.
and what exactly is wrong with divorce? family values isn't about sticking together no matter how much you totally can't stand each other. if you would have said he cheated on his wives that would be a different matter.
What I have a real problem with is people who force the world into their view, like the Europeans making nation states out of the Arab tribes they conquered. Why not try to understand reality according to what it is, rather than according to how you would like it to be? not all people want to just live and let live. some have ideals beyond just surviving, or material thriving. some people won't be nice to you just because you are nice to them. bullies get encouraged by weakness. worse of all, real hate exists today, no less than before. the best way to get rid of racism is to stop using racist term like "African American" or "white".
different people have different goals, and they can conflict. therefor, progress for liberalism is total backwardness for a conservatism. what I really can't take is when people assume only their ideals exist, so therefor when conservatives make progress on their goals, it annoys me that liberals talk as if it's objectively moronic because it conflicts with the liberal's goals. it is not moronic, it is simply an attempt to solve a completely different problem that arises from having a completely different purpose. it would be moronic if it was trying to solve a problem the liberals face, but it doesn't.