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Google Releases Desktop Gadgets For Linux

mstrom writes "Google announced it has ported its Google Desktop Gadgets platform to Linux, making it the first cross-platform [desktop] gadgets framework. In a sign that Google is fully embracing the open source model, it admits the product is not feature-complete and has opened up the code base hosted on Google Code 'to give everyone a chance to tinker with the code powering the gadgets.' According to Google: "Gadget support is not just a single feature, but rather an entire platform for miniature applications.'"

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  1. Google gadgets? by Yetihehe · · Score: 1, Interesting

    How much search bars and adboxes do one need on a desktop?

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    1. Re:Google gadgets? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      42 I guess

    2. Re:Google gadgets? by jsnipy · · Score: 3, Funny

      Think bigger. Gadgets can be more than just the typical fare that you download. Imagine all those pointless reports with executive gauges ... they can now be gadgets!

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    3. Re:Google gadgets? by D+Ninja · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I don't know - however many you want?

      Seriously, whatever Google is actually making is not the point here. What is notable here is the fact that they are providing serious application development for the Linux platform. With so many "big name" companies somewhat ignoring the *nix platform, this is a good thing.

      With that said, I don't know if you were trolling, but have you tried out Google Gadgets (for Windows presumably)? There is some great stuff there. RSS feed readers, weather, traffic reports, etc. Yes, I agree, none of it is terribly important, and you can always head to a website to get that information, but it's always nice to have that information right at your fingertips. And, just because you don't have a use for something doesn't mean other people don't need it.

    4. Re:Google gadgets? by paskie · · Score: 1

      I guess none if it's really open-source?

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    5. Re:Google gadgets? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      better question:

      How much spying on your data, surfing, searches, and miscellany does one need on your computer?

      Oh, I forgot. Do no evil.

      Mod me down, but it's true.

    6. Re:Google gadgets? by Yetihehe · · Score: 2, Funny

      It was aimed at "funny". I didn't try it because I don't typically use windows (only at work). I've tried some weather reports, but none have yet worked form me (Poland, small city) and it is impossible to find traffic information here (Poland, small city), not that it would be really useful (Poland, small city). Otherwise, I agree with you.

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    7. Re:Google gadgets? by somersault · · Score: 5, Funny

      speak its name with reference Oh almighty Google, we salute you!
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    8. Re:Google gadgets? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      they forgot Poland!

    9. Re:Google gadgets? by Rob_Bryerton · · Score: 4, Funny

      If they correct grammar and spelling, the answer is "more than you're currently using."

    10. Re:Google gadgets? by D+Ninja · · Score: 1

      It was aimed at "funny". Ahhh...yeah. That's the problem with the internet. It's so amazingly easy to misinterpret what someone writes.

      My apologies.
    11. Re:Google gadgets? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      no no, he meant "reference"...

      as in "Oh &google, we salute you!" /sb

    12. Re:Google gadgets? by martin_b1sh0p · · Score: 1

      Well I'm excited because I got hooked on having a weather applet on my desktop...but superkaramba isn't being updated anymore and gnome's desklet ("Good Weather") doesn't get updates from weather.com (or wherever it's from) anymore.

      So basically I'm waiting for a nice desktop widget that shows me the current/forecast and it looks like Google might be the answer.

    13. Re:Google gadgets? by Mr.+DOS · · Score: 1

      Infinity plus one?

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    14. Re:Google gadgets? by Hatta · · Score: 2, Interesting

      But we already have tons of dock apps that work with just about any window manager. Why is Google reinventing the wheel here?

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    15. Re:Google gadgets? by D+Ninja · · Score: 5, Informative

      That's because they want you to use their product - not one of the other dock apps that exist. That's just smart business strategy there. First, Google looks great because they are supporting Linux when so many big companies don't touch it with a ten foot pole. Second, they get the "common geek" using their tools/APIs/etc. And third, they get more mindshare which is huge for any company.

      And, honestly, you could make this argument for any piece of open source software. Why do people make their own? Because they can. One of the best things about OSS.

    16. Re:Google gadgets? by justdaven · · Score: 1

      no no, he meant "reference"... as in "Oh &google, we salute you!" /sb Actually, I think he meant "reverence", but reference is funnier!!! ;)
    17. Re:Google gadgets? by bkr1_2k · · Score: 1

      Do you mean speak its name with reverence? If not, reference to what?

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    18. Re:Google gadgets? by im_rotting · · Score: 0

      Google, we speak your name.

    19. Re:Google gadgets? by somersault · · Score: 2, Funny

      If a joke is flying, but no-one is in to hear it, what sound does it make?

      *whoooooooooosh!

      :)

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    20. Re:Google gadgets? by nguy · · Score: 1

      Dock apps aren't widgets, neither in what they do nor in how they are written.

      There are some widget frameworks for Linux, but they aren't all that stable and there aren't a lot of widgets available for them.

      Google's release is a good thing and fills a real need.

    21. Re:Google gadgets? by Hatta · · Score: 1

      What's the difference?

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    22. Re:Google gadgets? by penguin+king · · Score: 1

      I'm presuming that this will allow people who dual boot to use an identical set of gadgets on either their Linux or Windows installs (I'm sorry, what an insensitive clod I am, by dual boot I of course mean dual boot Windows and Linux...).

      I for one welcome our gadget toting overlords as in my opinion little gadgets are the kind of thing you actively want to have identical across platforms. If I have a gmail checking or google calendar displaying gadget in my windows install, it's be nice to have the same when I boot linux.

      That being said last time I tried gadgets in windows the performance hit was terrible, so personally I'll probably not try it.

    23. Re:Google gadgets? by mabhatter654 · · Score: 1

      this is cross platform... you can develop just 1 gadget and run it on any system.

    24. Re:Google gadgets? by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Why is Google reinventing the wheel here?
      So they can charge people to put ads on the new wheel...
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    25. Re:Google gadgets? by ZerdZerd · · Score: 2, Informative

      You know it's open source, right? You can check if their spying on you by reading the code.

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  2. It's about time... by TheRedSeven · · Score: 4, Insightful

    For all the Google talk about organizing information and their 'open platform' push with Android, it's about time they start taking Linux platforms seriously.

  3. ;o by __aardcx5948 · · Score: 1
    1. Re:;o by ArcherB · · Score: 1

      ... but is it open source? Yes! Screenshot: http://google-gadgets-for-linux.googlecode.com/svn/images/ggl-standalone.jpg There are many reasons for me to hate Google. Their commitment to Linux and Open Source makes me look past all of them!
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    2. Re:;o by bsDaemon · · Score: 5, Insightful

      ... but is it open source? Yes! Screenshot: http://google-gadgets-for-linux.googlecode.com/svn/images/ggl-standalone.jpg There are many reasons for me to hate Google. Their commitment to Linux and Open Source makes me look past all of them! Isn't that like a woman saying, "I know he beats me, but he bought me a nice car so I'll stay" ?

      It really ought to take a little more to impress you.
    3. Re:;o by ArcherB · · Score: 1

      ... but is it open source? Yes! Screenshot: http://google-gadgets-for-linux.googlecode.com/svn/images/ggl-standalone.jpg There are many reasons for me to hate Google. Their commitment to Linux and Open Source makes me look past all of them! Isn't that like a woman saying, "I know he beats me, but he bought me a nice car so I'll stay" ?

      It really ought to take a little more to impress you. Actually, it's more like, "He is the political opposite of me, he pees on the toilet seat and treats our neighbors like shit, but he treats me well and buys me a nice car, so I'll stay."

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    4. Re:;o by bsDaemon · · Score: 1

      ... but is it open source? Yes! Screenshot: http://google-gadgets-for-linux.googlecode.com/svn/images/ggl-standalone.jpg There are many reasons for me to hate Google. Their commitment to Linux and Open Source makes me look past all of them! Isn't that like a woman saying, "I know he beats me, but he bought me a nice car so I'll stay" ?

      It really ought to take a little more to impress you. Actually, it's more like, "He is the political opposite of me, he pees on the toilet seat and treats our neighbors like shit, but he treats me well and buys me a nice car, so I'll stay." Yeah, but that pretty much describes every relationship, though. I don't know why people don't get urinals installed in their homes...

    5. Re:;o by Niten · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Isn't that like a woman saying, "I know he beats me, but he bought me a nice car so I'll stay" ?

      No. Not even remotely.

    6. Re:;o by girasquid · · Score: 1

      It's because the urinals won't run Linux.

    7. Re:;o by bsDaemon · · Score: 1

      It's because the urinals won't run Linux. No, but the *WILL* run NetBSD.
    8. Re:;o by barnackle · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Isn't that like a woman saying, "I know he beats me, but he bought me a nice car so I'll stay" ? yeah, but apparently the nice car was worth the beating. just look at fear factor.
    9. Re:;o by cparker15 · · Score: 1

      Whooosh!

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    10. Re:;o by mhall119 · · Score: 5, Funny

      They should use Windows, because nobody likes a toilet that runs all day.

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    11. Re:;o by ShieldW0lf · · Score: 1

      ... but is it open source? Yes! Screenshot: http://google-gadgets-for-linux.googlecode.com/svn/images/ggl-standalone.jpg There are many reasons for me to hate Google. Their commitment to Linux and Open Source makes me look past all of them!

      Isn't that like a woman saying, "I know he beats me, but he bought me a nice car so I'll stay" ?


      Sharon Phillips sang it best...

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    12. Re:;o by bsDaemon · · Score: 1

      If it weren't for the facts that A) I've already posted, and B) I haven't had mod points since 2004, you would totally be getting some.

    13. Re:;o by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some stay just with the " I love you, but sometimes you make me .....", so a car seams a very good deal

    14. Re:;o by Knuckles · · Score: 1

      I don't know why people don't get urinals installed in their homes... Because grown-up men who have nothing to prove by behaving like dogs can lift the lid and sit down to pee.

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  4. Serves you right... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    for being too smug about being productive on linux a few posts below.

  5. What about Opera? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    If you count Opera's widgets, this isn't the first cross-platform widget/gadget system.

    1. Re:What about Opera? by dsparil · · Score: 5, Informative

      Plus, it runs on the most platforms; Windows, OS X, Linux, Solaris, FreeBSD, Symbian* and Windows Mobile*; and it's just vanilla HTML, JS and SVG zipped up.
      *Once Opera Mobile 9.5 ships.

    2. Re:What about Opera? by Miladinoski · · Score: 1

      That includes mobile phones, the Wii, etc. That doesn't include mobile phones, yet.
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    3. Re:What about Opera? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Opera's proprietary (CLOSED) shit. It may be nice, but it's closed, it took them years to ditch the advertising in their free version with banners and shit, now they need to ditch the closed source and open it up.

    4. Re:What about Opera? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      NeXTSTEP/OpenStep, GNUStep, WindowMaker/WINGs...

      All that's old is new again.

    5. Re:What about Opera? by Miladinoski · · Score: 2, Informative

      Opera's proprietary (CLOSED) shit Have you even tried Opera? It indeed is proprietary, but not everything that is closed is shit, and Opera is just one proof of that. They had the biggest innovations in the browsers: First to include tabs, first to include mouse gestures, bookmarks nicknames (it took Firefox to come to its third version to implement this great feature), complete control over the browser with the keyboard, and so on...

      it took them years to ditch the advertising Yes, this is one of the reasons why Opera's market share is low.

      now they need to ditch the closed source and open it up. This has its ups and downs, and one of the downside is when they open their source, their paid version of Opera mobile maybe still paid, but with the source of Presto (the rendering engine of Opera's browsers) everyone with more skills could make its own version and give it for free, which means no salaries for the employees. I guess I don't have to speak about the ups of it, because I guess everyone probably knows them :)
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    6. Re:What about Opera? by Jor-Al · · Score: 1

      This has its ups and downs, and one of the downside is when they open their source, their paid version of Opera mobile maybe still paid, but with the source of Presto (the rendering engine of Opera's browsers) everyone with more skills could make its own version and give it for free, which means no salaries for the employees. I guess I don't have to speak about the ups of it, because I guess everyone probably knows them :) This is nonsense. All one has to do is look at companies like Trolltech, MySQL AB, etc. If what you said was true, those companies would have been bankrupt years ago. Yet strangely enough, they aren't.
    7. Re:What about Opera? by Count_Froggy · · Score: 2, Informative

      Opera's widgets are a good thing, but they do not run under the OS, but within a web browser. The advantage of Google gadgets, Konfabulator, Karamba, or indvidual apps like Rainlendar is that they are available without needing to load a browser. As much as I like Karamba, I welcome another Open Source solution. There may be an opportunity to recognize that all gadgets ought to be runnable under a common framework. Anybody remember TSR's (early MSDOS/DRDOS/other variants days).

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    8. Re:What about Opera? by harry666t · · Score: 1

      It's not Free (as in speech) & Open Source.

      BTW, Plasma works on all platforms. I've also heard that since 4.1 it can display Mac OS X dashboard applets.

      BTW2, what exactly is holding people back from porting eg. gdesklets or superkaramba to the other platforms?

    9. Re:What about Opera? by gwinckler · · Score: 1

      But is the only one that follow a standard (Widget 1.0 Compliance - http://www.w3.org/TR/widgets/), if you consider this draft a standard.

    10. Re:What about Opera? by FrostDust · · Score: 1

      While I have tried to use them, many widgets seem to just waste desktop space, and the ones I did find useful, are usually designed for Windows and don't work as well under Linux, despite Opera being cross-platform. I couldn't get the Pandora Radio widget working, for example, due to its reliance on Flash, which, for whatever reason, is much worse than under Windows. Many other widgets, even if they operated correctly, still didn't look right. For example, many of the clock widgets have unusually large borders around them, not integrating well with the window manager. As much as I like Opera, it seems that the Google Gadgets would work better, simply due to developers being there to concentrate on making it work with Linux.

    11. Re:What about Opera? by Samizdata · · Score: 1

      Don't forget it runs on Blackberries too.

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    12. Re:What about Opera? by Dog-Cow · · Score: 1

      Will you idiots stop posting crap information like this?

      Opera was NOT the first graphical browser to use tabs. To my knowledge it was GNNBrowser (which also went under other names), which I used in 1993-94 on Windows 3.1.

    13. Re:What about Opera? by Miladinoski · · Score: 1

      Will you idiots stop posting crap information like this? Opera was NOT the first graphical browser to use tabs. To my knowledge it was GNNBrowser (which also went under other names), which I used in 1993-94 on Windows 3.1. I apologize for any inconvenience I caused with my comment, but you didn't have to call me an idiot, after all you could have done, would be just to correct me. And also, please be more informative and tell us that the correct name of the browser was InternetWorks at first and then GNNWorks, so we could look it up on Google. Thanks. P.S. Opera isn't even second. Netcaptor had tabbed browsing before Opera.
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  7. Konfabulator? by PainMeds · · Score: 5, Interesting

    making it the first cross-platform [desktop] gadgets framework

    Wasn't Konfabulator the first? It supported both Mac and Windows, and was the tool of choice until Apple decided to release the Dashboard.

    1. Re:Konfabulator? by wile_e_wonka · · Score: 1

      Yes--you're right!

      Wait, no--your comment is hurting my worship of Google. Please stop.

    2. Re:Konfabulator? by JasterBobaMereel · · Score: 1

      Probably ... ..although several Linux gadget frameworks used QT or GTK and so theoretically would work on Windows ...

      Google Gadgets has the advantage that it can use either QT or GTK ... and so probably works on most other *nix systems as well ....

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    3. Re:Konfabulator? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I used Yahoo widgets on my XP partition but not on my Linux one.
      So its not cross-platfrom enough.

    4. Re:Konfabulator? by databyss · · Score: 3, Funny

      mac isn't a platform, it's a religion.

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    5. Re:Konfabulator? by bkr1_2k · · Score: 1

      Tool of choice for who? Maybe for geeks, but nobody else knew anything about it, I assure you.

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    6. Re:Konfabulator? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wasn't Konfabulator the first? It supported both Mac and Windows, and was the tool of choice until Apple decided to release the Dashboard. You mean, it was Macintosh only until Apple announced Dashboard? The company was very disappointed and decided to partnered with Yahoo and release a Windows version to stay alive.

      Note, I am an Apple fanboy, but stuff like this and the Sherlock/Holmes fiasco are very disappointing.
  8. KDE4 by wile_e_wonka · · Score: 1

    Although KDE4.1(?) was planning to impliment the ability to run Apple Widgets (or whatever they're called).

    Of course, Apple didn't design them to work cross-platform, though.

    1. Re:KDE4 by AvitarX · · Score: 1

      hopefully 4.2 will support this without needing to install extra.

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    2. Re:KDE4 by jeffbax · · Score: 1

      Well.. to be fair, Apple's widgets are mostly just HTML, CSS, and JavaScript which runs with WebKit... although some have some more OS X specific plugs in them - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dashboard_(software)

      They have also been shown to run right in the browser, so hopefully KDE will be able to support them too.

  9. KDE 4.1 by wroshyyr · · Score: 1

    Wouldn't KDE 4 be the first cross-platform desktop widget framework? Or don't they count it because it isn't completely done yet?

  10. Gagdets, Widgets, etc. by MistrBlank · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Do people really use them? I don't use any of the widgets on my Mac OSX system. I sort of used the calculator, but do I really need one in the background all the time? On Vista I shut down the sidebar, what a huge waste of resources. And why do I need a clock gadget when there's one already in the system tray? This just seems like a gimmick to waste collective time.

    1. Re:Gagdets, Widgets, etc. by Chyeld · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I don't use the Google versions, but I do have Confabulator/Yahoo! Widgets installed and do actually USE some of the widgets for more than eyecandy.

      Granted 90% of the widgets out there are useless, and the other 10% probably have alternatives to them that don't involve running in a widget engine. But the fact that there are other ways to skin the cat doesn't immediately invalidate the way you prefer.

      That said, when I'm expecting to do heavy duty work that will probably peg the resourse on my aging computer, the first thing that dies is this.

    2. Re:Gagdets, Widgets, etc. by qoncept · · Score: 4, Interesting

      There are a whole bunch of things that make you think they'd be useful. "Oh man, that would be so cool if only I [insert something you don't do, and realize that even then it probably wouldn't be very useful]." I used it for a while, mostly for the weather and and to keep an eye on my network activity. Huge waste of space and now that I'm in Linux there are much better options.

      For the most part, you get blocks that staticly show one unimportant thing, or tickers. Tickers aren't convenient. You have to wait to see what you are interested in, or actively watch it. If you're going to actively watch it, you might as well visit whatever site the RSS feed is coming from.

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    3. Re:Gagdets, Widgets, etc. by shawn(at)fsu · · Score: 1

      I like the side bar in Vista. I keep the weather up, sometimes the notes and I installed sphere clock (which I use as a very loud alarm when I simply must not oversleep). The only gadget I wish they had was a simple tell me how hot my cpu is.

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    4. Re:Gagdets, Widgets, etc. by onion2k · · Score: 1

      As an RSS reader, sure. Mostly it's just the obvious news feeds from the likes of the BBC and Engadget, but additionally I have a couple of other less usual ones - one is a box for the latest posts on a forum I moderate, and the other is a script that takes any interesting activity (code errors, spikes in CPU usage, etc) in the logs for the servers I maintain code on and pipes them to my sidebar (and soon a sideshow-enabled display :) ). Admittedly emails would work just as well (better perhaps, I have a tendency to cover the sidebar with IDE stuff) but it's a fun thing to have, and clients are always impressed by it.

    5. Re:Gagdets, Widgets, etc. by Mascot · · Score: 3, Informative

      Huge waste of resources? Waste, ok, but huge? The default sidebar thingiemajigs don't exactly drain a few CPU cores and gigs of ram.

      Anyhoo, yes, some people do really use them (Yahoo's in my case). While I could perfectly well live without it, I do find having the free space of all my partitions readily visible, along with CPU, harddrive and network usage and some other tidbits to be handy. When I played Eve Online for a bit I also found the Eve skill/training monitor rather nice.

      At work I find a world clock widget to be very useful when it comes to keep tracking of the local time at our various offices. Before we changed our presence system I also had a self-created widget that listed the activity and phone numbers of people key to whatever I was working on at the moment.

      Sure, all this information is available elsewhere. It's just not as convenient as the always present always updated desktop widgets. It's not for everybody, but it does have its uses.

    6. Re:Gagdets, Widgets, etc. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't use any widgets right now, although I do play with Opera's widgets once in a while. Those widgets aren't particularly useful on a desktop, but the widgets I play with would be invaluable on a smartphone. I think that was Opera's plan from the get-go.

      I cannot wait for Opera Mobile 9.5 to come out. Widget support is the killer feature for me.

    7. Re:Gagdets, Widgets, etc. by JasterBobaMereel · · Score: 1

      My Windows desktop has Clock, Running Programs, Tooltray Icons ... and nothing else

      No Desktop Icons
      No 'Start' Button
      Nothing!

      My Linux desktop is the same!

      Why would I want gadgets that either take up valuable screen space or hide beneath windows?

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    8. Re:Gagdets, Widgets, etc. by Kugrian · · Score: 1

      I've messed about with some of them. It only seems useful for things I want 'at-a-glance'. Maybe I'm old fashioned, but that's the clock. Five seconds and a click I have the weather. I have a window always open that provides calculator functions.
      As many others here, I'm the computer fixer dude for friends. I still haven't met any 'normal computer users' who will use anything more than a browser and IM client on the same screen at a time.

    9. Re:Gagdets, Widgets, etc. by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 2, Informative

      Do people really use them? I don't use any of the widgets on my Mac OSX system.

      I used to be in the same boat as you. Right up until 10.5, widgets seemed to use up too many resources to make them worthwhile. Since 10.5, however, they are a lot better about being idle in the background, but still coming up quickly enough when desired. I regularly use the white and yellow pages widgets, a widget to track time I put in on various projects, a weather report widget, and a simple timer.

      I think widgets are a reflection of improvements in multitasking and resource allocation. Back in the day, if I wanted to play a game at a LAN party, I shut down all my applications. I didn't leave applications sitting open unless I was actually using them. Since about version 10.2 of OS X, I never quit any of my applications that I use daily. I sure don't shut down my big, Adobe CS applications before playing a game. Better resource allocation has really changed the way I compute and Widgets are a reflection of that. Why not have a dozen small applications running in the background all the time, so long as they don't significantly affect performance? It is a lot more convenient than firing them up when needed, one by one. Mind you, there are a lot of useless Widgets and even some I thought I'd use (google maps) I don't because I generally have a Web browser open too. Still, I do think widgets are here to stay; especially for smartphones.

    10. Re:Gagdets, Widgets, etc. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've actually MADE widgets for my job, and I don't think they're useful.

    11. Re:Gagdets, Widgets, etc. by street+struttin' · · Score: 1

      Don't forget weather. Everybody needs a million ways to tell what it's like outside at every instant. I think it reminds people of the freedom of the sunlight and breeze, even when they are confined. It makes living in a cube more bearable.

    12. Re:Gagdets, Widgets, etc. by MistrBlank · · Score: 1

      "especially for smartphones."
      Is it really a "widget" then? It's basically a running application there.

    13. Re:Gagdets, Widgets, etc. by Sporkinum · · Score: 2, Funny

      Nothing like having an alarm clock that draws several hundred watts of power.

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    14. Re:Gagdets, Widgets, etc. by 3p1ph4ny · · Score: 3, Informative

      For what it's worth, I think you're right. However, I've been using conky (http://conky.sourceforge.net/) forever, and I think it's great. That's about as close to gadgets as I come, though.

    15. Re:Gagdets, Widgets, etc. by Kugrian · · Score: 1

      Post Scriptum: The most I've ever seen a 'normal computer user' get out of dual screens is youtube in one window, and normal browsing in another window. I tried sidebars for a while, and it just doesn't help. Maybe I'm just used to 800x600 from many earlier years of computer usage.

      Personally, I only use more than one thing in the same window when it makes sense. Firefox with firebug/web devel toolbar, and a text editor. Sometimes maybe a browser at the top, and an email client at the bottom. I only see widescreens beneficial for watching videos - multiple desktops make more sense if I wanna switch subject.

      Though I can totally see the value of sidebars, I've still to see anyone who uses one long term.

    16. Re:Gagdets, Widgets, etc. by cashman73 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Oh, please! If I see Weatherbug on one more PC, I think I'm gonna go postal,... ;-)

    17. Re:Gagdets, Widgets, etc. by phtpht · · Score: 1

      I agree. In addition, I find the taskbar most useless as well.

    18. Re:Gagdets, Widgets, etc. by Otter · · Score: 1
      Huge waste of space and now that I'm in Linux there are much better options.

      Those being what? The only Linux options I know of are things like KDE and GNOME toolbar applets, things like gkrellm and (my favorite) WindowMaker dockapps. Those aren't any different from "blocks" and "tickers" on other platforms.

    19. Re:Gagdets, Widgets, etc. by rar · · Score: 1

      The only Linux options I know of are things like KDE and GNOME toolbar applets, things like gkrellm and (my favorite) WindowMaker dockapps. Gnome toolbar applets don't really work as "gadgets" or "desklets" in the most accepted sense, since while the toolbar can be set transparent, there is no way to configure it to stay below other windows. It is funny to see this discussion pop up just when a few days ago I posted a lengthy post in gnomes bugzilla about re-opening a feature request that would make this use of the gnome toolbar possible. Sadly, it doesn't seem to get any attention.
    20. Re:Gagdets, Widgets, etc. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I use iGoogle as my homepage and besides the gmail-inbox widget all others were pretty useless and/or broken for me. So I made a few myself that I use regularly: local tv-stations primetime, train schedule for my main station, rain radar for my area, and one for buying tickets for the cinema in my city. Notice that those are all "local" widgets which would be only useful for people of my city. Maybe that's where the power is. (Sry for bad English :F)

    21. Re:Gagdets, Widgets, etc. by Bandman · · Score: 1


      bandman@newcastle[503]:~$ ps --user bandman | grep bash | wc -l
      21


      7th virtual desktop is the first one where I can see the background.

      I'm a sysadmin, though, which doesn't count as "normal computer user". Sysadmins define abnormal.

    22. Re:Gagdets, Widgets, etc. by pdusen · · Score: 1

      The widgets included with Vista aren't that great, but there are a bunch of downloadable sidebar tools I use; a CPU/RAM meter, a HD space meter, a NIC traffic meter, a gadget to show me my current public IP address, etc.

    23. Re:Gagdets, Widgets, etc. by mortonda · · Score: 1

      And why do I need a clock gadget when there's one already in the system tray? The default clock in windows is next to useless, when it comes to looking at the calendar. I hate the double click needed to open it, and the mechanism for changing months is horrible. I like the Gnome version which is much more click friendly.

    24. Re:Gagdets, Widgets, etc. by aztracker1 · · Score: 1

      I find that there are some things that are pretty useful... task lists that integrate with your calendar are nice... some of the mini media player controllers are nice as well... other things, not quite so much.. I like some of the sticky note widgets better than tomboy, but that's just me... ymmv.

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    25. Re:Gagdets, Widgets, etc. by psydeshow · · Score: 1

      On my Dashboard:

          Weather, including an animated display of the last 6 radar images for my region.

          A widget that uses the "rule of three" to find proportional values (very handy for finding dimensions that fit 4:3).

          An egg timer.

          A clock with the time in New Zealand where my in-laws live.

      That's it. That's all I use Dashboard for, but I really can't live without them.

    26. Re:Gagdets, Widgets, etc. by Reapman · · Score: 1

      You got stats to back that up? My entire SYSTEM running doesn't use "several hundred watts" of power running, I'd be rather suprised if a little clock was doing even remotely that much.

      Then again I guess I am not the type to be so concerned with electricity that i also unplug my microwave when not using it, or run a computer so old I have to turn everything off for it to be responsive.

      Why is it someone that thinks just because they don't like eye candy, that nobody with a brain should either? I mean if you like your system lean and mean and squeeze every frame per second out of it you can that's great, and honestly kinda impressive, been there done that. But don't be dissin ppl that feel otherwise. Nowadays my computer runs "good enough" and has enough Shiney factor to keep me interested.

      Just gettin annoyed at all the "what a waste" comments on here.

    27. Re:Gagdets, Widgets, etc. by Knuckles · · Score: 2, Informative
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    28. Re:Gagdets, Widgets, etc. by bkr1_2k · · Score: 1

      I use the clock widget to keep time in several different time zones because either I or someone I speak to regularly is traveling often. US, Europe, Asia, etc. One clock for every person/city. It's easy to know when they might be available. Sometimes I use it for weather too.

      I did disable dashboard for a while, but left it enabled when I upgraded to Panther. Dashboard is a memory pig, but it's occasionally useful.

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    29. Re:Gagdets, Widgets, etc. by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 1

      "especially for smartphones." Is it really a "widget" then? It's basically a running application there.

      I guess that is debatable. In my mind they are widgets because of the stupid simple, Web technology development method. Also, if it is considered an application on the phone, but also runs identically as a pop-up widget on your desktop OS, well, is it a widget or not? I guess I don't care so long as they work.

    30. Re:Gagdets, Widgets, etc. by Dog-Cow · · Score: 1

      I think the GP meant that most people would by a $5 alarm clock that uses about a watt, instead of wasting an entire PC for the task.

      He was also trying to be funny.

    31. Re:Gagdets, Widgets, etc. by Otter · · Score: 1

      I'm familiar with both (not sure why you're linking to the Wikipedia pages instead of the projects themselves) and use SuperKaramba on a work account that doesn't have WindowMaker. But neither of them, nor conky, which someone else mentioned, strikes me as a fundamentally different way to display information on the screen. I'd say both fall into "things like gkrellm".

    32. Re:Gagdets, Widgets, etc. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well then, maybe i'll just take this foot out of my mouth and leave with what dignity I can muster...

      wups.

    33. Re:Gagdets, Widgets, etc. by Eil · · Score: 1

      My problem with desktop widgets is that I would never see them, even if they were enabled. I run a dual-head display with 4 virtual desktops and I tend to make use of all available screen space with the applications I have open. One screen has a browser with a few xterms while the other typically has email, IRC, IM, and maybe a window for viewing documentation.

      Desktop eyecandy may be pretty and mildly functional but not so helpful if you actually use your computer for something other than recreation.

    34. Re:Gagdets, Widgets, etc. by Knuckles · · Score: 1

      The wikipedia pages were faster to google, simple. What#s the problem with them, they have links to the projects anyway.

      I don't consider these things "things like gkrellm" at all, I'd rather say they are quite exactly in the class of things that Google now brings to the table, and as such I wonder what more Google has to offer.

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    35. Re:Gagdets, Widgets, etc. by friedmud · · Score: 1

      Having just gained 3 leopard running computers in the past couple of months... I gotta say that I've used Dashboard a lot more than I thought.

      At work I use a resource monitor, calculator, weather, sticky notes, iCal events (which shows my upcoming google calendar events since I sync it with iCal) and calendar all day long. I also use a subset of these on my work laptop and home laptop... but I really use them more at work.

      When I first got all these Macs I wondered how much I would really use Dashboard... I mean, I've used Superkaramba at several points in the past (and a couple other widget engines for Windows), but it never really stuck. Like others, the fact that I always have applications open (covering the gadgets) meant that I never really saw them. And thus is the genius of Dashboard. Having the gadgets sit on a transparent plane that I can summon at any moment is what sets it apart. I have Dashboard set to open when I mouse to the bottom left corner and I now do so without even thinking most of the time.

      Friedmud

    36. Re:Gagdets, Widgets, etc. by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      I used it for a while, mostly for the weather
      I suppose it depends where you live, but in the UK, it's easier just to stick your head out of the window and take a random guess what's going to happen next, rather than depend on weather forecasts.

      Or, as this is slashdot, forget about the window thing and just throw a dice or something.

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    37. Re:Gagdets, Widgets, etc. by seandiggity · · Score: 1

      gDesklets actually runs without any noticeable footprint on my Ubuntu computers, and the clock is a nice visual. The GoodWeather desklet is useful and looks awesome too. So yeah, desklets aren't a big deal, but they aren't necessarily a huge waste of resources.

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      Geeks like to think that they can ignore politics, you can leave politics alone, but politics won't leave you alone.-rms
  11. Not feature complete by badfish99 · · Score: 1

    From TFA:
    [Google] admits the product is not feature-complete and has opened up the code base ...to give everyone a chance to tinker with the code

    Since when was "open source" just an excuse for releasing a half-finished product? Google is a multi-million-dollar company. Surely they can afford to pay some programmers and testers to produce a finished product before they release it?

    1. Re:Not feature complete by ciaohound · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Are there any apps that Google has released in the traditional sense? Seems like they stay beta forever.

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      Oh, yeah, it's not easy to pad these out to 120 characters.
    2. Re:Not feature complete by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 4, Informative

      Since when was "open source" just an excuse for releasing a half-finished product? Google is a multi-million-dollar company. Surely they can afford to pay some programmers and testers to produce a finished product before they release it?

      Google's development methods are quite different than other companies. Many of these beta services and products they release are not something the company is using to make money, but are the individual projects of the engineers. Each engineer gets 20% of their time where they must work on their own thing. A lot of those "things" eventually get tossed out for the public to play with, usually as betas and often as OSS projects. Sure, Google could pay engineers to work on this full time, but it isn't clear that is really going to make them money. Linux on the desktop improvements aren't exactly a goldmine. Rather, I think it is nice they let the engineer donate this code to Linux and let people help him integrate it into Linux.

    3. Re:Not feature complete by mapsjanhere · · Score: 1

      As long as stuff is in beta you're not responsible in a product liability sense. If you're computer goes up in smoke because you tinkered with unreleased software - you should have read the fine print on "beta software".

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    4. Re:Not feature complete by s4m7 · · Score: 1

      Since when was "open source" just an excuse for releasing a half-finished product? Since about the same time "free" gave you the right to bitch about the quality of it.
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    5. Re:Not feature complete by shellbeach · · Score: 1

      Since when was "open source" just an excuse for releasing a half-finished product? Since this, perhaps?

      But that project didn't work out so well, so you're probably right -- it's a bad idea :)

    6. Re:Not feature complete by niko9 · · Score: 1

      Since when was "open source" just an excuse for releasing a half-finished product? Google is a multi-million-dollar company. Surely they can afford to pay some programmers and testers to produce a finished product before they release it?

      Google's development methods are quite different than other companies. Many of these beta services and products they release are not something the company is using to make money, but are the individual projects of the engineers. Each engineer gets 20% of their time where they must work on their own thing. A lot of those "things" eventually get tossed out for the public to play with, usually as betas and often as OSS projects. Sure, Google could pay engineers to work on this full time, but it isn't clear that is really going to make them money. Linux on the desktop improvements aren't exactly a goldmine. Rather, I think it is nice they let the engineer donate this code to Linux and let people help him integrate it into Linux.

      Correct me if I'm wrong but..

      Gmail, which is still in beta, is someone's personal pet project that Google does NOT make money on?

    7. Re:Not feature complete by Bandman · · Score: 1

      See, if Google made you pay for this, I could see your argument.

      Heck, if Google even implied that this was a useful tool, I might agree.

      Suppose in another universe, Google waited until it was 100% to release it. Would you rather have it in 6 months, when that happens, or would you rather play with it now?

      And since they released it now, it doesn't matter what your answer was to the previous question. If you want to wait until it's done, then wait. If you want to use it now, then use it now.

      In other words, stop complaining that someone gives you too many options.

    8. Re:Not feature complete by Bandman · · Score: 1

      That doesn't matter so much. How many click through agreements have you seen where the programmers and companies are responsible for any damages.

      I don't know if they'd stick in court, but I suspect that Google's reasoning for releasing this before it's 100% is that they want the community to be able to play with it

    9. Re:Not feature complete by Bandman · · Score: 2, Informative

      No, it started as a pet project. Like Google Maps, which also produces income.

    10. Re:Not feature complete by barius · · Score: 1

      See, if Google made you pay for this, I could see your argument. See, if you start implying that cost is the main factor in quality then you're really just saying OSS is a second-class product. So, no, the fact that it is free of cost should not be a factor in whether or not it is considered reliable.
    11. Re:Not feature complete by Xtifr · · Score: 1

      Since when was "open source" just an excuse for releasing a half-finished product? "Just"? I think you need to RTFCatB. Open source (or Free Software or whatever) has never been "just" an excuse for releasing a half-finished product, but "release early, release often" is one of the open source mantras. Why should they try to make it "feature-complete" (whatever that might happen to mean) before they go out and try to find out what features people actually want?

      Surely they can afford to pay some programmers and testers to produce a finished product before they release it? Hey, if it's not good enough for you in its present state, I'm sure they'll be happy to refund your money in full. In the mean time, they get to start getting feedback from the users before they sink a whole bunch of money into developing more features that may or may not be what people want. Sounds like a Big Win to me. And anyway, who the hell are you to criticize how they decide to spend their money? Especially for something they're giving away for free in any case?

      But the bottom line is, it sounds like they know a whole lot more about how to make really good free/libre/open source software than you do!

      (I first used Linux 0.12, which was a long way from being feature complete--maybe you think Linus should have kept his code private until he had something good enough to call 1.0? I sure don't--I helped debug those early systems, and I don't think the system would have been anywhere near as good if he'd waited.)
    12. Re:Not feature complete by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I find it amusing that most (all?) of these Google betas are far more stable and functional than your run of the mill software...

      I for once welcome Google World Domination (BETA).

    13. Re:Not feature complete by Bandman · · Score: 1

      No, it doesn't have anything to do with the quality. There are open source programs that are very complete and feature-rich. There are also open sourced programs that are so raw that they barely have names.

      It's about the choice. Have it now, and get the ability to be part of the production process, or wait until it's complete and use it then.

      Alternately, someone could bitch about how incomplete it is, and how wronged they feel because someone dares release incomplete software to the internet at large.

      I imagine that if you paid for software, and you ended up with a crippled piece of software that barely (or didn't) work, you could complain that a company released it before it was done. See Windows Vista for reference.

      Seeing as it costs you nothing other than the time you spend using (or trying to use it), I'm not really sure of the problem here.

  12. KDE 4... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    KDE 4 already does this. Their is really no reason why anyone would need claymore then are already made for the various already available "gadget things". Really you got your news, your weather, your clock and that is really all anyone should need.

    1. Re:KDE 4... by Stewie241 · · Score: 1

      What about my hockey scores? Too bad this information is controlled - would make great gadgets!

  13. bullshit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Google announced it has ported its Google Desktop Gadgets platform to Linux, making it the first cross-platform [desktop] gadgets framework.

    google google google bullshit!

    opera has widgets since a year or so for linux and for windows

  14. fantastic! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    when microsoft makes open source moves it's a trap but when google does it they're embracing open source? huh? i guess fools forget that when money is on the line you can't trust anyone.

    1. Re:fantastic! by doti · · Score: 1

      Well, it's released under the Apache License.

      What is the license of Microsoft's "open source" softwares?

      http://code.google.com/p/google-gadgets-for-linux/

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    2. Re:fantastic! by pandrijeczko · · Score: 1
      when microsoft makes open source moves it's a trap

      Microsoft doesn't do Open Source, it does Shared Source. To laymen, that means you can look at some of it but if you change any of it, it spends three months festering in Ballmer's underpants before approval gets signed in triplicate and you get a letter basically requesting you to empty the entire contents of your bank account into the Microsoft Money Pit before the fat sweaty bald man gets his "Yes" rubber stamp out.

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  15. More information required... by Wowsers · · Score: 1
    To find out more I visited this link from the OP's original link http://desktop.google.com/linux/ This gives the inspiring:

    Not Found
    Error 404
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    Take Nobody's Word For It.
    1. Re:More information required... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Google's fault. http://desktop.google.com/linux/index.html works, so perhaps they screwed up some config somewhere? Seems a bit silly not defaulting to index.* files.

    2. Re:More information required... by papna · · Score: 1

      Works fine for me. It's an impressive day if Google got slashdotted.

  16. First X-platform? Really? by GreyDuck · · Score: 4, Informative

    the first cross-platform [desktop] gadgets framework

    So, this Konfabulator thing I've been running for years isn't cross-platform after all? Thanks for clearing that up, Slashdot!

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    1. Re:First X-platform? Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the first cross-platform [desktop] gadgets framework

      So, this Konfabulator thing I've been running for years isn't cross-platform after all? Thanks for clearing that up, Slashdot! Where is linux support for Konfabulator?
    2. Re:First X-platform? Really? by xtracto · · Score: 1
      Agreed.

      Just read this post from someone which seems to be a Konfabulator developer.

      I liked these tidbits:

      Part of the issue with linux is all the different desktop environments. If we do this, weâ(TM)ll pick exactly one and focus on that. We wonâ(TM)t dilute our effort. and

      the real fun part wonâ(TM)t necessarily be bringing the engine over and the windowing,itâ(TM)ll likely be the more esoteric things like measuring battery life/wireless in a standard way. But linux and the word standard donâ(TM)t generally seem to go together. Of course, I would say the desktop envieronment of choice would be KDE... since Konfabultaor Konforms Kuite Korrectly to the naming Konventions.
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    3. Re:First X-platform? Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I see your sarcasm and raise you double sarcasm.


      Oh so when did yahoo implement linux compatibility in Konfabulator? oh they didn't? And what's this about having to get different widgets depending on your platform?

  17. I wonder by wobedraggled · · Score: 1

    How long until a .deb file is made. good news all around.

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  18. Why is this news? by TheMiddleRoad · · Score: 0, Troll

    Does coming from Google automatically make something newsworthy, no matter how insignificant?

    1. Re:Why is this news? by TheP4st · · Score: 1

      You must be new here.

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  19. Do they suck ... by labmonkey09 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    ... as much as the ones for Windows?

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    1. Re:Do they suck ... by labmonkey09 · · Score: 1

      Awesome, my first 0.

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  20. Summarize for the proxied? by Gothmolly · · Score: 1

    Can anyone summarize what this means, for those of us stuck behind firewalls?

    Note to Google: blogspot is probably not the best place to put real stuff, however "Web 2.0" it may be.

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  21. Um, you already could do this. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Screenlets can import Google Gadgets and run them on the desktop just fine.

  22. Re:Google gadgets? Full linux support!! by miknix · · Score: 1

    I agree.

    And not only they give a source package for linux but they also give support for both qt and gtk widgets.

    And for those saying that Linux users don't want a ugly Vista bar on their desktop, I must remind them that Linux had those thingies way before Vista. I'm talking about adesklets, superkaramba and friends..

    So yes, I actually feel happy when a big company like Google thinks about us, the minority and little Linux users. Even if I don't need/want what they have to offer.

  23. Not sure about licensing (Qt is GPL) by hubert.lepicki · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Hi all, I am not sure if they are not breaking rules of GPL. Of course, I don't think this is intentional - but if their gadgets use Qt - they should be released under the terms of GPL and not Apache Software License 2.0. Quick browsing their code repository shows that even files that require Qt headers have Apache license header - not a GPL one. Does anyone know if this stuff is legally possible? I'm not accusing Google of anything, I'm really happy that they released it and I'm building this software right now. I just think the legal stuff is really important.

    1. Re:Not sure about licensing (Qt is GPL) by arendjr · · Score: 1

      Given that the Trolltech GPL exception applies to more licenses than just the GPL, including the Apache License (see: http://doc.trolltech.com/main-snapshot/license-gpl-exceptions.html), yes it is legal.

    2. Re:Not sure about licensing (Qt is GPL) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Qt? So it is Koobuntu after all?

  24. Re:Netcraft confirms it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Netcrafts confirms it... Year Of the Linux Desktop.
    -1 Bad/Old Joke...

    *ducks*
    See http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=565313&cid=23560489

    ... BTW, frist!
    -1 Wrong...
  25. What about Opera? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Opera's already had cross-platform widgets, in fact, they work on many more OSes than just the Big Three.

    That includes mobile phones, the Wii, etc.

  26. 0 out of 3 ain't that bad... by Gazzonyx · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Netcrafts confirms it... Year Of the Linux Desktop.
    -1 Bad/Old Joke...

    *ducks*
    See http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=565313&cid=23560489

    ... BTW, frist!
    -1 Wrong... Yeah, but other than those three issues, it was all killer and no filler!
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  27. Gadgets by Kanan · · Score: 1

    I saw a lot of posts claiming that gadgets are worthless. Since I use Google Desktop with gadgets, I thought I would mention that gadgets I use. I mostly use Google Calendar (my agenda is very full) as well as a remember the milk gadget that is identical to the one on iGoogle. I also use a large digital clock with an alarm that flashes to alert me when I need to do certain things. The only other gadget I would like is something that combines RTM, my calendar, and permits me to "punch in" and "punch out" to activities in my RTM to do list. I like having all of these visible to me to help me keep track of my activities and goals. I use two wide screen monitors though, so if I had a tiny screen I might not find gadgets as useful.

    1. Re:Gadgets by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 1

      The only other gadget I would like is something that combines RTM, my calendar, and permits me to "punch in" and "punch out" to activities in my RTM to do list.

      I use an OS X Widget called "TheDailyGrind" to manage this last one. If you're on OS X or a bleeding edge KDE system it might be worth checking out.

  28. s/Google/Doubleclick by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    Same Company, same goals

    perhaps it could be cynically re-titled
    "Javascript based Spyware from DoubleClicks parent company comes to Linux"

  29. Wow. by RavenChild · · Score: 0

    I have been compiling (or at least trying) this code for about an hour and a half now on my Arch Linux box. I've run into 24 errors so far, all of which I have been able to fix. I was thinking this code was pretty new but had no idea it was this needy of fixes.

  30. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 1

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  31. mine works by zogger · · Score: 1

    I have a gnome applet for weather called Weather Report 2.22.1, works just fine, just checked it a minute ago. You can set location covered and how often it updates and how you want the numbers read out (miles or kilometers and etc.). It has current conditions, forecast for today and the rest of the week, and the radar image.

  32. Screenlets has been around for a few months.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://screenlets.org/index.php/Home
    and
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screenlets

    already supported google gadgets and actually works the same way (gtkmozembed).

    1. Re:Screenlets has been around for a few months.... by James+Su · · Score: 1

      http://screenlets.org/index.php/Home and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screenlets already supported google gadgets and actually works the same way (gtkmozembed). There are two different types of Google Gadgets, one is iGoogle Gadgets, which can be run in Screenlets, another is Google Desktop Gadgets, which can only be run in Google Gadgets for Linux.
  33. Java 6u10 (beta) came first by Nicopa · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This new release rewrites the plugin used to provide applet support to browsers. One of the new features is the ability of dragging an applet to the desktop, and the applet would stat there. It's really simple and it's very cool. This is coupled with the newly added support for abitrarily shaped applets.

    Sun is trying to revitalize applets. There's no reason a Java applet should be slower than flash, and the language is much more powerful.

  34. You should complain no matter what price by pbhj · · Score: 1

    The food came to the table.

    One of the guests shouted out: "I can't eat that!".

    "Why?" enquired a troubled hostess.

    "This fish is still frozen in the middle."

    That was a true tale. The meal was free to "the guest" but he rightly pointed out that it wasn't fit to eat. If I give you something and it's sucky I'd rather you told me.

    Summary: You should complain no matter what price you pay, or if something is free-gratis. That means that your benefactor can make a correction if there is some error. Of course that might just say FY, but that's their prerogative.

  35. TK by Xtifr · · Score: 1

    I think Tk has it beat by a long shot (over a decade).

    (Plus, Tk is something I'd willingly install on pretty much every platform I have, while KDE is something I don't want on any platform, no matter how much you pay me. But that's a separate issue.) :)

  36. Google doesn't really port to linux by HermMunster · · Score: 1

    My experience with google software is that very little, if any, is a port to Linux. Most of it is simply a wine implementation. So, in effect, it is a windows program running on linux.

    If google wants to really commit to linux they'll make real linux programs and not some wine implementation.

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    1. Re:Google doesn't really port to linux by Benley · · Score: 2, Informative

      afaik, only Picasa for linux is the wine crap. google desktop and earth are native ports. Earth already used QT on windows so the port was probably easier than Picasa.

    2. Re:Google doesn't really port to linux by AngryDill · · Score: 1
      From the FAQ

      Q: How to build and install Gadgets for Linux on Ubuntu 8.04?

      A: You need install a number of development packages, including:
      • libgtk2.0-dev
      • libmozjs-dev
      • libxul-dev
      • libcurl4-openssl-dev
      • libgstreamer0.10-dev
      • libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10-dev
      • libdbus-1-dev
      • libxml2-dev
      • librsvg2-dev Dependent packages required by the packages above also need to be installed.
      Doesn't look Wine based - it's based mostly on GTK and Mozilla-related libraries.

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  37. error in summary by morkk · · Score: 1

    >> "Gadget support is not just a single feature, but rather an entire platform for USELESS miniature applications."

    Fixed that for ya!

  38. Welcome, looks like cool and useful stuff by jebblue · · Score: 0

    Google has it going on. Let's see more of this, oh yeah we already heave Google Earth for Linux and Google Desktop. It is a great time to be running Linux, especially Ubuntu.

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  40. Plasma will support Google Gadgets by A+Jew · · Score: 1

    The Google Gadgets developers have already created a Plasma implementation of them, similar to how MacOSX widget support is implemented. The blog of Aaron Seigo, Plasma developer About Google gadgets on plasma