And we're supposed to believe they are "the good guys"? I find it hard to believe that a vast consorcium of commercial businesses is what freedom lovers would like to depend on.
I'm telling you, those Micro$hit morons couldn't build an OS if their lives depended on it. They give us their crappy bugous system and we're supposed to manage with that. Idiots!
Oh. Wait a minute... The bug was in LINUX you're saying?
I know what happened! Bil Gates sent spies to interfere with Linux's development process in order to put bugs in their systems and take over the world.
Slashdot is just trying to throw mud at Microsoft which is a very good firm and makes great software. I wish there were more companies like Microsoft who care for the computer user. I think everybody should buy those GREAT Microsoft products as soon as possible.
Signed,
David Manning
Film critic for the Ridgefield Press, now doing software criticism as well.
Not only that reader users (i.e. everybody) cannot be armed by this virus, even if you're using the full acrobat and you're not stupid, you'll probably not get it.
Assume you have acrobat and you open an infected file with it, you'll get an alarm box that says something like "open attachment i_love_you.vbs?". If you hit "yes" then you probably deserve what you're getting. This is very similar to email worms, be careful and your chanses of survival increase dramatically.
Shouldn't the state put such a thing in the license of the power company?
Banks in Israel started providing service through the internet about two years ago. The Israeli bank-supervisor forced them to put it on a seperate network than the bank interior network. Necessary data connections between the netwoks are randomly disconnected by a mechanical device. Even developers working in the bank have limited internet access by a slow modem to a secure proxy server (which might make it a crappy job but also a fine place to put your money in).
This is basic stuff, but I guess people care more about their bank account than their electric bill. Let them back to the caves.
slashdot rules!
--- "How to Kiss Ass", chapter twelve.
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First of all, thanks for the complements, you really show you have class(even though I suspect your class is BPP if you know what I mean).
Secondly, this is a slashdot comment, not a scientific article so I let myself be a little loose on terms. I DID, however, mention EXACTLY what I meant, that P=NP collapses PH. If you don't agree with that... Then maybe you have problems with the theory of complexity.
Waving out problems' names might be nice to impress women(try it, works like a charm every time) but it doesn't change the essense of what I wrote, that P=NP means a hell of a lot more than just being able to solve DHC in polynomial time.
I should admit I'm not familiar with all the problems you mentioned, but I'm not surprised they exist, there are ALOT of problems out there, some of them are really hard. You could claim that the halting problem is "interesting"(which it kindof is, solving it would help alot in debugging) but non-recursive. When a Computer-Science person says "interesting", they mean something, and appearantly you don't know what it is. I don't know if I would be so proud of it if I were you.
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Like my fellow slashdoteers wrote, P=NP has wide implications on the difficulty of solving NP-Complete problems(or NP U Co-NP such as primeness which is used for cryptography) and has a serious effect on encrypted data.
HOWEVER, during all those dozins of years Computer Scientists have been trying to show P!=NP(with no success) they achieved success in showing another thing: they showed that if P=NP everything(well, almost everything) is easy.
In(not so) short, there is an infinite "pyramid" of complexity classes built one on top of the other called Polynomail Hierarchy(or PH). This includes problems starting from P(easiest) and going higher and higher to "infinitely hard" problems. I should say they are not really "infinitely hard" because you can solve them all in Polynomial Space(if you don't know what it is, just ignore this sentence) but they are very hard(polynomial space is also known as the class of "all interesting problems").
Now, what they showed is that if you "collapse" one layer of the pyramid, it all collapses to that layer. And showing P=NP is collapsing the very first layer.
What's my point? Wait a second, there is one on the way(assuming I don't forget it).
All right, says Mr. Slash D. Wiz, so what if P=NP makes all current cryptography obsolete? They can now(with the new computation power) come up with new cryptographic tools and such. Well, if P really equals NP, this means that it is going to be very hard(I don't want to say impossible) to find a cryptographic model that won't be easy to crack.
You see where I was getting with all that math mumble? Not only current cryptography is obsolete if P=NP, the whole field of cryptography might go in the ways of alchimestry...
So, you'd better hope this isn't true. It might put an end all all those nasty complexity courses in the Computer-Science department but you could use the time of the class to show your privacy the way out of your life.
I don't think this is an installable version of SuSE 7.0. Loot here to see what they have in the German site(read the READMEs). I think this might be what's on the American site.
You got a kernel, it works, end of story. Are they adding support for new devices and stuff? If that's the case it looks alot more benefitial to add an external "device manager" and update that instead of continuing to update the kernel, won't you say? Or maybe they're just making the code more pretty???
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Why would anybody want a quote in the bottom of they message???
Imagine slashdot would have your credit card information...
Can you imagine Taco posting a story: Slashdot has been hacked. To be on the safe side, I'd advise you to revoke your credit cards. That might have been rather nasty.
Well, let's just be happy that nobody cracked a commercial site that HAS credit card records... Oh wait, they did...
Bah...
Obviously, the benchmarks are faulty... I shouldv'e guessed, right?
And regarding your attempt-to-be-cinical remark as to me preferring hardware over software... I'll just advise you to get rid of all those nasty graphic cards, sound cards and all that disgusting ancient firmware technology that can(should?) be replaced by nice software.
The thing about those Crusoe chips is that they take much less power than other processors on the market.
The cost of that, however, is that a large portion of operations occur in software which yields for slower performence than the competition.
With today's huge advance in hardware, I don't see much use for such "software oriented" chips. With processors going faster and more efficent and power sources becoming larger and smaller, this might make such processors rather unuseful. Won't you say?
This may be fashionable now(wow! This is a Linus firm!) but we may want to think a little bit ahead.
Ammm...
Since when did knowing-what-you're-talking-about became a requirement for commenting?
Or posting?
They could've cut the Slashdot database in half if THAT was the case...
Since when logic(or common sense for that matter) ever interfered with corporate policy(such as filing law suits)?
This is BUSINESS we're talking about here, folks, don't try to figure it out.
Heck, in the end they always end up spilling it all on the floor...
What about Boing 757, those can be pretty dangerous as well.
Well fuck off.
And we're supposed to believe they are "the good guys"? I find it hard to believe that a vast consorcium of commercial businesses is what freedom lovers would like to depend on.
Care to elaborate?
I'm telling you, those Micro$hit morons couldn't build an OS if their lives depended on it. They give us their crappy bugous system and we're supposed to manage with that. Idiots!
Oh. Wait a minute... The bug was in LINUX you're saying?
I know what happened! Bil Gates sent spies to interfere with Linux's development process in order to put bugs in their systems and take over the world.
Yes. This is exactly what happened.
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Don't be a conformist! Be exactly like our group.
Is it time for another "which BSD is better" flame-war already?
- "Linux good, M$ crappy!"
"How to Get Modded Up on Slashdot", Chapter 3
Slashdot is just trying to throw mud at Microsoft which is a very good firm and makes great software. I wish there were more companies like Microsoft who care for the computer user. I think everybody should buy those GREAT Microsoft products as soon as possible.
Signed,
David Manning
Film critic for the Ridgefield Press, now doing software criticism as well.
Assume you have acrobat and you open an infected file with it, you'll get an alarm box that says something like "open attachment i_love_you.vbs?". If you hit "yes" then you probably deserve what you're getting. This is very similar to email worms, be careful and your chanses of survival increase dramatically.
Yeah? Well you shut up!
Yeah? Well you shut up!
Yeah? Well you shut up!
Shouldn't the state put such a thing in the license of the power company?
Banks in Israel started providing service through the internet about two years ago. The Israeli bank-supervisor forced them to put it on a seperate network than the bank interior network. Necessary data connections between the netwoks are randomly disconnected by a mechanical device. Even developers working in the bank have limited internet access by a slow modem to a secure proxy server (which might make it a crappy job but also a fine place to put your money in).
This is basic stuff, but I guess people care more about their bank account than their electric bill. Let them back to the caves.
slashdot rules!
--- "How to Kiss Ass", chapter twelve.
Secondly, this is a slashdot comment, not a scientific article so I let myself be a little loose on terms. I DID, however, mention EXACTLY what I meant, that P=NP collapses PH. If you don't agree with that... Then maybe you have problems with the theory of complexity.
Waving out problems' names might be nice to impress women(try it, works like a charm every time) but it doesn't change the essense of what I wrote, that P=NP means a hell of a lot more than just being able to solve DHC in polynomial time.
I should admit I'm not familiar with all the problems you mentioned, but I'm not surprised they exist, there are ALOT of problems out there, some of them are really hard. You could claim that the halting problem is "interesting"(which it kindof is, solving it would help alot in debugging) but non-recursive. When a Computer-Science person says "interesting", they mean something, and appearantly you don't know what it is. I don't know if I would be so proud of it if I were you.
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Bah.
HOWEVER, during all those dozins of years Computer Scientists have been trying to show P!=NP(with no success) they achieved success in showing another thing: they showed that if P=NP everything(well, almost everything) is easy.
In(not so) short, there is an infinite "pyramid" of complexity classes built one on top of the other called Polynomail Hierarchy(or PH). This includes problems starting from P(easiest) and going higher and higher to "infinitely hard" problems. I should say they are not really "infinitely hard" because you can solve them all in Polynomial Space(if you don't know what it is, just ignore this sentence) but they are very hard(polynomial space is also known as the class of "all interesting problems").
Now, what they showed is that if you "collapse" one layer of the pyramid, it all collapses to that layer. And showing P=NP is collapsing the very first layer.
What's my point? Wait a second, there is one on the way(assuming I don't forget it).
All right, says Mr. Slash D. Wiz, so what if P=NP makes all current cryptography obsolete? They can now(with the new computation power) come up with new cryptographic tools and such. Well, if P really equals NP, this means that it is going to be very hard(I don't want to say impossible) to find a cryptographic model that won't be easy to crack.
You see where I was getting with all that math mumble? Not only current cryptography is obsolete if P=NP, the whole field of cryptography might go in the ways of alchimestry...
So, you'd better hope this isn't true. It might put an end all all those nasty complexity courses in the Computer-Science department but you could use the time of the class to show your privacy the way out of your life.
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Oh yeah???
Interfaced,
Centrally
Revisioned
Operating
System
and
Optional
Featured
Toolkits
Or maybe in short... MICRO$OFT Linux...
Neat.
I don't think this is an installable version of SuSE 7.0. Loot here to see what they have in the German site(read the READMEs). I think this might be what's on the American site.
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Why would anybody want a quote in the bottom of they message???
Can you imagine Taco posting a story: Slashdot has been hacked. To be on the safe side, I'd advise you to revoke your credit cards. That might have been rather nasty.
Well, let's just be happy that nobody cracked a commercial site that HAS credit card records... Oh wait, they did...
--- No quote, no plan, just leave me alone
Obviously, the benchmarks are faulty... I shouldv'e guessed, right?
And regarding your attempt-to-be-cinical remark as to me preferring hardware over software... I'll just advise you to get rid of all those nasty graphic cards, sound cards and all that disgusting ancient firmware technology that can(should?) be replaced by nice software.
Good luck.
I HAVE to find me a good quote...
Such as notebooks???
Yeah! Let him have it!
Eeek!! It's me...
The cost of that, however, is that a large portion of operations occur in software which yields for slower performence than the competition.
With today's huge advance in hardware, I don't see much use for such "software oriented" chips. With processors going faster and more efficent and power sources becoming larger and smaller, this might make such processors rather unuseful. Won't you say?
This may be fashionable now(wow! This is a Linus firm!) but we may want to think a little bit ahead.
Ammm...
Since when did knowing-what-you're-talking-about became a requirement for commenting?
Or posting?
They could've cut the Slashdot database in half if THAT was the case...
Since when logic(or common sense for that matter) ever interfered with corporate policy(such as filing law suits)? This is BUSINESS we're talking about here, folks, don't try to figure it out. Heck, in the end they always end up spilling it all on the floor...