...they would be using it and it would hard to tell communication apart from background noise.
Not really, that is the point about using neutrinos. There are so few being disbursed (so we think) that even if we come across an encrypted data stream we should know it's there due to the increase of neutrinos.
I would much rather see a OS dedicated to gaming that could be easily configured to dual boot. That way bloat ware and misc PC clutter would not sit in the background wasting precious memory and potentially interrupting gaming sessions. Normal users could think of it as booting their PC up into Console Mode.
It's not like Windows doesn't make users reboot on a whim anyway.
the assumption in other posts is that the spaces are singular. It seem to me that it can't be true, if you count the | marks and the spaces as singular you get:
47
46
46
46
46
46
46
25 not counting final space.
Tried to give | || representation of the bits, but/. demands fewer junk characters...
This leads me to believe there is a double space in there, and with the crooked lining up of the |'s it is hard to tell exactly where... but i believe it is in the bottom most 5-6 lines.
This is where i lose my confidence on lining up the bits.. But in total there should be 48 rows... Oh, and I don't believe i mentioned this is the first stanza from the top of the page. Hope something from this helps,
Cheers
Anyone else notice there are 8 digits if we break it into binary verticaly? such as from top to bottom left to right the first being 10100111 and alternatively bottom to top (as if the page were rotated 90 degrees clockwise) 11100101...
The Binary can then be converted to Hex and then perhaps deciphered...
World of Warcraft used torrents to patch the game when last i was playing. My ISP US Cable throttled the traffic severely and I always had to download the patch using other methods. There are many legitimate uses for torrents.
Limiting bittorrent because it can be used for illegal downloads is like scrambling epsn because people make illegal bets on football games.
If we found out there were extraterrestrials there isn't going to be a 'freak out' or panic.
Anymore then there was a freak out and public panic when Native Americans were discovered. For one, the Native American's weren't exactly walking talking Bananas, they were humans just like the explorers who found them.
Also the Native American's hardly caused the explorer's to question their most fundamental beliefs. I'm not sure what is hard about this to comprehend, but there is a much different scale of discovery to finding other humans, versus finding completely alternative intelligent life.
No alien civilization is expending the mammoth amount of resources needed to traverse the vast distances of interstellar space just to stick a probe up your ass. Deal with it.
To assume that they would have to expend mammoth amounts of resources to travel here is a bit speculative. We have a very limited understanding of physics. To make assumptions on the technological limitations of an advanced race supposedly capable of reaching Earth is just naive. It is indeed very possible that a sufficiently advanced race could travel any distance without relativistic effects. Itâ(TM)s also possible that they could easily avoid detection by our technologically infantile civilization.
It is really easy to call all UFO believers nuts and crazies, and to be fair to you, there are many who are indeed crazy or just desperately seeking attention. They and you prevent any intelligent discussion on the topic, them by making their claims completely insane, and you by dismissing any and all claims because some claims are insane.
There is obviously enough merit to some of the claims that the governments of the world would classify them and hide them away, so is it not worth an intelligent discussion by the public? I for one would love for there to be other intelligent life visiting our planet, but unless we are willing to discuss it, even without much decent evidence, our civilization may never be privy to any (if there is any) actual tangible proof.
It is worth examining the reasoning any government would have to hide any and all solid evidence on ETs. For one, barring the recent catholic acceptance (coincidence?) most world wide religions would be unwilling to accept the existence of aliens. It would cause religions to collapse. If solid evidence were provided people would have to come to terms with the possibility that there may be nothing to look forward to after this life. I for one donâ(TM)t believe that the two are mutually exclusive, but in the religious context many would be displaced spiritually. We donâ(TM)t trust other humans of a different skin color, let alone a creature who may share very few physical similarities with our species. If I were an alien I would not show myself until the public had been appropriately prepared. So for no other reason than self preservation the aliens themselves may not ALLOW our governments to release large chunks of information.
The way that i see it, there are two viable options for why all of these governments are releasing their UFO documents (very very selective small parts no doubt). France, the UK, Mexico... now we just need the US and Canada to do the same. And i bet they will soon.
Two possible scenarios assuming that UFOs are real and possibly ET related:
Scenario 1. They (the gov) are laying a trail of misinformation to make the public happy and keep us completely in the dark as to how much involvement they have had with UFOs (development of the tech ourselves or contact with ETs.) I personally think this is most likely. Give us something to let us believe they don't really know what's going on all the while they have secret deal or super high tech hidden from us in the background. Just one more step in the wrong direction so it will be that much more unbelievable or dismissed.
Scenario 2. They are preparing to eventually reveal the whole thing to us for one of several possible reasons.
Reason 1: Similar to how the asguard made Stargate Command reveal the Stargate program to the major countries on our planet, the government is being forced to at least start the process of informing the public so as to continue contact (or prevent hostilities) with the alien race(s) that we are in contact with. If we are in contact with ETs (and I'd be will to bet we are) at some point we will want more than they are willing to give us. If it is technology it is likely that they will believe that we need to improve as a species before they can give us any more advanced tech that could lead to new weapons etc.
If they are friendly we are probably being forced to reveal the information in exchange for something. They would most likely want to see us be able to responsibly use whatever they give us, and we can only truly mature on a large scale, otherwise anyone coming into the program from future generations would still have been raised with the mentality of the outside world.
This best matches the slow rate we are getting the information. I would imagine they would have had to show that they are making an attempt to eventually reveal the truth to us when we are prepared for it. And I am sure the ETs would know that we would have to gradually be introduced to the info to prevent shock and panic. This, I think, is the most likely of Scenario 2 reasons.
If they are hostile then we are are most likely giving out the information in an attempt to prepare ourselves for some sort of hostile action and to defend it and not be completely "caught in the headlights" we would need to have more global acceptance of the possibility of alien invasion etc. this less likely than them being friendly in my opinion. If they were hostile we would have less time to prepare, as the rate at which we are getting the info is too slow. Not to mention we would probably have known it by now, i.e. have been attacked already.
Reason 2: They are being limited in their ability to expand technology by withholding knowledge from the public sector. There are just not enough scientists employed by the government that could be "in the know" to reverse engineer/ actually understand sufficiently advanced technology. This reason could be motivated by a need to increase our defensive capacity versus one or more of the races. Or just because they are overwhelmed with new info and can't get through it all at a rate in which the powers that be would like.
Reason 3: This one is a little more out there.. The Mayans believed that Dec 21 2012 would be the return of Quetzacotal, perhaps this Quetzacotal is not a person, but a race of aliens.. and maybe it WILL happen in 2012 and there is no choice but to start giving us information so that when it happens we will either be ready or at least not in world wide disarray. I'm not sure that this is that viable of an option, as there are only 4 years till then.. They rate at which we are being giving this information will need to speed up significantly for this theory to be true.
not yet, but as per your quote "...but in a manner to be prescribed by law." All they would have to do is pass a law. If they did it in a way that showed reasonable contraints on the cycle usage durring "non-attack mode" this law would be passed without argument from most lay-computer users. It'd be seen no differently then the AOL preinstall on most home PCs. I know some that would embrace it as a duty to their country.
... any IP's found online and not reporting successful installation by the cut-off date will be requisitioned and their owners sent to Gitmo. Thanks and have a nice day.
i wonder how many computer illiterate grannys they'd waterboard before realizing this is a bad idea?
Sounds like a small price to pay in order to protect my right to liberty. Just because the government demands access does not mean I have to comply. Agreed. If more people refuse politely these types of measures will not get very far. Politely is the key word though, once you refuse they will be waiting for you to give them an excuse to take it to the next level.
TTD Grah : Say for example, you are surfing because you wish to purchase shoes online, this site will pop up and give you options to chose from.
TTD Grah : That is how it works.
TTD Grah : That is how it works.
TTD Grah : The site will not pop up everytime you go online. I'm not even sure that makes any sense. Charter sounds like they never even told their employees what the new system was about and this guys is just making it up/quickly skiming some brochure while hes chatting.
Thankfully Charter is not available where I live, however I'll bet ya this will be standard operating procedure here soon..
in a few days you could afford that 800,000 dollar DPI machine and automate the process.
Within weeks all the worlds wealth will be yours!
I for one welcome our slashname3 overlord...
Slashdot Mirror
but how long till they buckle?
but we'd sure have a hell of a lot of kids...
...they would be using it and it would hard to tell communication apart from background noise.Not really, that is the point about using neutrinos. There are so few being disbursed (so we think) that even if we come across an encrypted data stream we should know it's there due to the increase of neutrinos.
I would much rather see a OS dedicated to gaming that could be easily configured to dual boot. That way bloat ware and misc PC clutter would not sit in the background wasting precious memory and potentially interrupting gaming sessions. Normal users could think of it as booting their PC up into Console Mode.
It's not like Windows doesn't make users reboot on a whim anyway.
maybe the "hi" is intentional to indicate orientation. thus last stanza is actually first?
11101101110110111011101110111010101011010111011
01110111011101101110101110110110101101110111010
11010101011101110101011101101110101101101110111
01110111011101101011010110111011010111010101110
01110101011101110111011101011101110111010101010
11010101110111011101110110111011011101101101010
11011101101110101110111011101010110101101110100
11101110110111010111010110000000000000000000000
Assuming the spaces = one 0 here is the block of binary for the top stanza
I think the symbol for D is equivalent to infinity billion :)
the assumption in other posts is that the spaces are singular. It seem to me that it can't be true, if you count the | marks and the spaces as singular you get: /. demands fewer junk characters...
47
46
46
46
46
46
46
25 not counting final space.
Tried to give | || representation of the bits, but
This leads me to believe there is a double space in there, and with the crooked lining up of the |'s it is hard to tell exactly where... but i believe it is in the bottom most 5-6 lines.
Binary Hex Dec
1 11100101 E5 229
2 11111111 FF 255
3 10011011 9B 155
4 01111110 7E 126
5 11000001 C1 193
6 11111111 FF 255
7 10001010 8A 138
8 01111111 7F 127
9 11100001 E1 225
10 10111111 BF 191
11 01011110 5E 94
12 11111111 FF 255
13 11100001 E1 225
14 10111110 BE 190
15 01011111 5F 95
16 10110101 B5 181
17 01101011 6B 107
18 11110110 F6 246
19 11011011 DB 219
20 10111101 BD 189
21 01100011 63 99
22 11111100 FC 252
23 01010111 57 87
24 10111111 BF 191
25 11101011 EB 235
26 01110100 74 116
27 01001111 4F 79
28 00111011 3B 59
29 01111101 7D 125
30 00010110 16 22
31 01101111 6F 111
32 00111000 38 56
33 01110111 77 119
34 01011000 56 88
35 00100111 27 39
36 01111110 7E 126
This is where i lose my confidence on lining up the bits.. But in total there should be 48 rows... Oh, and I don't believe i mentioned this is the first stanza from the top of the page. Hope something from this helps,
Cheers
Anyone else notice there are 8 digits if we break it into binary verticaly? such as from top to bottom left to right the first being 10100111 and alternatively bottom to top (as if the page were rotated 90 degrees clockwise) 11100101...
The Binary can then be converted to Hex and then perhaps deciphered...
Working on it atm..
That's funny, when i converted it and then etch it onto a vinyl i got Rick Roll'd
perhaps the S is a signal to shift by FC?
shhh.. don't mention news groups, no one needs to know about them. you're gonna mess it up for all of us. ;)
Or ESPN even... god i hate it when people don't RTFP (read their f* posts) ;)
World of Warcraft used torrents to patch the game when last i was playing. My ISP US Cable throttled the traffic severely and I always had to download the patch using other methods. There are many legitimate uses for torrents.
Limiting bittorrent because it can be used for illegal downloads is like scrambling epsn because people make illegal bets on football games.
Anymore then there was a freak out and public panic when Native Americans were discovered. For one, the Native American's weren't exactly walking talking Bananas, they were humans just like the explorers who found them.
Also the Native American's hardly caused the explorer's to question their most fundamental beliefs. I'm not sure what is hard about this to comprehend, but there is a much different scale of discovery to finding other humans, versus finding completely alternative intelligent life.
To assume that they would have to expend mammoth amounts of resources to travel here is a bit speculative. We have a very limited understanding of physics. To make assumptions on the technological limitations of an advanced race supposedly capable of reaching Earth is just naive. It is indeed very possible that a sufficiently advanced race could travel any distance without relativistic effects. Itâ(TM)s also possible that they could easily avoid detection by our technologically infantile civilization.
It is really easy to call all UFO believers nuts and crazies, and to be fair to you, there are many who are indeed crazy or just desperately seeking attention. They and you prevent any intelligent discussion on the topic, them by making their claims completely insane, and you by dismissing any and all claims because some claims are insane.
There is obviously enough merit to some of the claims that the governments of the world would classify them and hide them away, so is it not worth an intelligent discussion by the public? I for one would love for there to be other intelligent life visiting our planet, but unless we are willing to discuss it, even without much decent evidence, our civilization may never be privy to any (if there is any) actual tangible proof.
It is worth examining the reasoning any government would have to hide any and all solid evidence on ETs. For one, barring the recent catholic acceptance (coincidence?) most world wide religions would be unwilling to accept the existence of aliens. It would cause religions to collapse. If solid evidence were provided people would have to come to terms with the possibility that there may be nothing to look forward to after this life. I for one donâ(TM)t believe that the two are mutually exclusive, but in the religious context many would be displaced spiritually. We donâ(TM)t trust other humans of a different skin color, let alone a creature who may share very few physical similarities with our species. If I were an alien I would not show myself until the public had been appropriately prepared. So for no other reason than self preservation the aliens themselves may not ALLOW our governments to release large chunks of information.
The way that i see it, there are two viable options for why all of these governments are releasing their UFO documents (very very selective small parts no doubt). France, the UK, Mexico... now we just need the US and Canada to do the same. And i bet they will soon.
Two possible scenarios assuming that UFOs are real and possibly ET related:
Scenario 1. They (the gov) are laying a trail of misinformation to make the public happy and keep us completely in the dark as to how much involvement they have had with UFOs (development of the tech ourselves or contact with ETs.) I personally think this is most likely. Give us something to let us believe they don't really know what's going on all the while they have secret deal or super high tech hidden from us in the background. Just one more step in the wrong direction so it will be that much more unbelievable or dismissed.
Scenario 2. They are preparing to eventually reveal the whole thing to us for one of several possible reasons.
Reason 1: Similar to how the asguard made Stargate Command reveal the Stargate program to the major countries on our planet, the government is being forced to at least start the process of informing the public so as to continue contact (or prevent hostilities) with the alien race(s) that we are in contact with. If we are in contact with ETs (and I'd be will to bet we are) at some point we will want more than they are willing to give us. If it is technology it is likely that they will believe that we need to improve as a species before they can give us any more advanced tech that could lead to new weapons etc.
If they are friendly we are probably being forced to reveal the information in exchange for something. They would most likely want to see us be able to responsibly use whatever they give us, and we can only truly mature on a large scale, otherwise anyone coming into the program from future generations would still have been raised with the mentality of the outside world. This best matches the slow rate we are getting the information. I would imagine they would have had to show that they are making an attempt to eventually reveal the truth to us when we are prepared for it. And I am sure the ETs would know that we would have to gradually be introduced to the info to prevent shock and panic. This, I think, is the most likely of Scenario 2 reasons.
If they are hostile then we are are most likely giving out the information in an attempt to prepare ourselves for some sort of hostile action and to defend it and not be completely "caught in the headlights" we would need to have more global acceptance of the possibility of alien invasion etc. this less likely than them being friendly in my opinion. If they were hostile we would have less time to prepare, as the rate at which we are getting the info is too slow. Not to mention we would probably have known it by now, i.e. have been attacked already.
Reason 2: They are being limited in their ability to expand technology by withholding knowledge from the public sector. There are just not enough scientists employed by the government that could be "in the know" to reverse engineer/ actually understand sufficiently advanced technology. This reason could be motivated by a need to increase our defensive capacity versus one or more of the races. Or just because they are overwhelmed with new info and can't get through it all at a rate in which the powers that be would like.
Reason 3: This one is a little more out there.. The Mayans believed that Dec 21 2012 would be the return of Quetzacotal, perhaps this Quetzacotal is not a person, but a race of aliens.. and maybe it WILL happen in 2012 and there is no choice but to start giving us information so that when it happens we will either be ready or at least not in world wide disarray. I'm not sure that this is that viable of an option, as there are only 4 years till then.. They rate at which we are being giving this information will need to speed up significantly for this theory to be true.
not yet, but as per your quote "...but in a manner to be prescribed by law." All they would have to do is pass a law. If they did it in a way that showed reasonable contraints on the cycle usage durring "non-attack mode" this law would be passed without argument from most lay-computer users. It'd be seen no differently then the AOL preinstall on most home PCs. I know some that would embrace it as a duty to their country.
Thanks and have a nice day.
i wonder how many computer illiterate grannys they'd waterboard before realizing this is a bad idea?
What the government wants and what the people want are not always the same.
TTD Grah : That is how it works.
TTD Grah : That is how it works.
TTD Grah : The site will not pop up everytime you go online. I'm not even sure that makes any sense. Charter sounds like they never even told their employees what the new system was about and this guys is just making it up/quickly skiming some brochure while hes chatting. Thankfully Charter is not available where I live, however I'll bet ya this will be standard operating procedure here soon..
in a few days you could afford that 800,000 dollar DPI machine and automate the process. Within weeks all the worlds wealth will be yours! I for one welcome our slashname3 overlord...