You're right. That's because the Republicans are advancing the cause of the Conservative Nanny State. You can read more about it here:
http://www.conservativenannystate.org/
Enjoy.
There is unanimous opposition to this sort of deal making. This is clearly the time to separate the content from the pipes. Make the owners of the pipes common carriers and make them act that way.
Sheesh! As if they don't have enough money.
You're right about that, except for the patent hell part. The proprietary part will reverse engineered in short order and MS will be afraid to sue. Why? Eben Moglen points it out very nicely here in the "Be Very Afraid Tour":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YExl9ojclo
So while it's true that MS and Novell have a deal that could protect their customers, the success of MS' patent threats depend on the ignorance of the companies that could be threatened by them.
And besides, once a lawsuit is filed, MS is going to have a lot of public explaining to do in discovery. And their patents will still have to withstand recent rulings.
Its only a matter of time before it will become politically and economically untenable for MS to use those patents against Linux.
I agree with your points on when and how Linux will be adopted. It is agreed that FOSS adoption is slow, inexorable and self-evident.
I would like to add that during slow times, new systems can be tested in the lab and moved to production because there is time to do it. If I was going to be making a change, I'd rather do it during the slow times when I can stop and take inventory of how the changes are working. During the fast times, I won't have time to fix mistakes.
In sum, the people who take the time and the risk to make the change now, when it's slow, will profit over the people who choose to remain with MS (insert top tier vendor here).
For those who worry about making a mistake with FOSS, it's worth noting the wise words of Watson of IBM fame, to paraphrase: To increase your chances of success, double your rate of failure.
It seems like Sun is licensing a lot of their stuff under the GPL. I agree with the comments concerning the licensing issue. If Sun wants to be the maintainer, that's fine. Let them make it like Red Hat does: work with GPL, insert company branding and lead the project with proper maintenance.
Dual licensing doesn't seem to meet the needs or the interests of the developers. Removing the requirement for developers to give ownership of the code to Sun would attract more developers to tackle the bugs, clean up the code with better organization and documenation, and let developers know that their code is still their code.
As far as I can tell, dual licensing the code for OO hasn't worked out too well other than that we do get a fairly good free office suite. Simplifying the project by using just the GPL would very likely be the change they need to make to take care of the complaints.
I don't know why anyone would be griping about speed. On my machine (new HP a6600f, dual core, 3 GB RAM), Open Office opens in about a second or less without the quickstarter application running.
Even on my older machine (P4, 512 MB RAM), it only took about 3 seconds to launch with the quickstarter application running.
The speed has been just fine for me.
Hmmm. Thanks for the tip.
BTW, has anyone been following the java 7 thing? I hear that Java 7 will provide support for the 64 bit Linux. I want to use it on Hulu.
Let me know.
...free standards are what's going to make it work. Free standards make machines talk to each other. Free software allows us to see what they're saying.
There seems to be a lot of debate about the source of the code. But the source of the code isn't going to matter much if the standards are abused.
Why isn't anyone talking much about this? Flash made a huge landgrab with their proprietary software - look, I tried Gnash on YouTube and that site whines about it - yet few are willing to take youtube to task for not being compatible with gnash.
And that is just one example. So companies can say that they're contributing to open source projects. Great. But what about the standards they use?
That's because MS looks at the source of the software: the developers. As long as they have the developers on a leash, the end users have fewer and fewer choices.
Remember, Ballmer chants "Developers, Developers, Developers" in his sleep.
When MS starts to think that choice is a good thing, then perhaps we have entered into the age of Aquarius. But until then, MS will always try to make all software work better on Windows at the expense of the competition.
"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people." Amendment X to the Constitution
Damn straight they work for us. Why and how do they forget this? Just what are they smoking?
Thank you for putting a finer point on it. I'd like to promote the idea of video taping searches.
Tell me about it. I got hired into a job where the goal is to reduce outside consulting to zero. I'm one guy, supporting close to 50 users and I have to know everything about everything. The phone system, the security system, the servers, and all applications.
I doubt if there is one guy who "knows it all" because I've seen just how complicated these things really are.
Is it reasonable to even hope that one guy could do it all?
Thank you. I totally respect our military for their skill and their honor. I just didn't know if anyone in the military has compassion for the people in Iraq.
What I mean to say is that you are at least looking at the people there before making any assumptions about who is a terrorist or a murderer.
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Yeah, the lack of parental involvement has nothing to do with it.
You're right. That's because the Republicans are advancing the cause of the Conservative Nanny State. You can read more about it here: http://www.conservativenannystate.org/ Enjoy.
There is unanimous opposition to this sort of deal making. This is clearly the time to separate the content from the pipes. Make the owners of the pipes common carriers and make them act that way. Sheesh! As if they don't have enough money.
Go figure.
You're right about that, except for the patent hell part. The proprietary part will reverse engineered in short order and MS will be afraid to sue. Why? Eben Moglen points it out very nicely here in the "Be Very Afraid Tour": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YExl9ojclo So while it's true that MS and Novell have a deal that could protect their customers, the success of MS' patent threats depend on the ignorance of the companies that could be threatened by them. And besides, once a lawsuit is filed, MS is going to have a lot of public explaining to do in discovery. And their patents will still have to withstand recent rulings. Its only a matter of time before it will become politically and economically untenable for MS to use those patents against Linux.
I agree with your points on when and how Linux will be adopted. It is agreed that FOSS adoption is slow, inexorable and self-evident. I would like to add that during slow times, new systems can be tested in the lab and moved to production because there is time to do it. If I was going to be making a change, I'd rather do it during the slow times when I can stop and take inventory of how the changes are working. During the fast times, I won't have time to fix mistakes. In sum, the people who take the time and the risk to make the change now, when it's slow, will profit over the people who choose to remain with MS (insert top tier vendor here). For those who worry about making a mistake with FOSS, it's worth noting the wise words of Watson of IBM fame, to paraphrase: To increase your chances of success, double your rate of failure.
It seems like Sun is licensing a lot of their stuff under the GPL. I agree with the comments concerning the licensing issue. If Sun wants to be the maintainer, that's fine. Let them make it like Red Hat does: work with GPL, insert company branding and lead the project with proper maintenance. Dual licensing doesn't seem to meet the needs or the interests of the developers. Removing the requirement for developers to give ownership of the code to Sun would attract more developers to tackle the bugs, clean up the code with better organization and documenation, and let developers know that their code is still their code. As far as I can tell, dual licensing the code for OO hasn't worked out too well other than that we do get a fairly good free office suite. Simplifying the project by using just the GPL would very likely be the change they need to make to take care of the complaints.
I don't know why anyone would be griping about speed. On my machine (new HP a6600f, dual core, 3 GB RAM), Open Office opens in about a second or less without the quickstarter application running. Even on my older machine (P4, 512 MB RAM), it only took about 3 seconds to launch with the quickstarter application running. The speed has been just fine for me.
Outlining works very well for me with OO.
Did you get that sig from Rush, "Free Will"?
My sentiments exactly.
Then throw this at them.... http://www.thepublicdomain.org/ That might wake'em up. Scott
Hmmm. Thanks for the tip. BTW, has anyone been following the java 7 thing? I hear that Java 7 will provide support for the 64 bit Linux. I want to use it on Hulu. Let me know.
THat's the point of GPL software. It levels the playing field for all companies and individuals.
What about HTML 5? Isn't that a viable choice?
...free standards are what's going to make it work. Free standards make machines talk to each other. Free software allows us to see what they're saying. There seems to be a lot of debate about the source of the code. But the source of the code isn't going to matter much if the standards are abused. Why isn't anyone talking much about this? Flash made a huge landgrab with their proprietary software - look, I tried Gnash on YouTube and that site whines about it - yet few are willing to take youtube to task for not being compatible with gnash. And that is just one example. So companies can say that they're contributing to open source projects. Great. But what about the standards they use?
That's because MS looks at the source of the software: the developers. As long as they have the developers on a leash, the end users have fewer and fewer choices. Remember, Ballmer chants "Developers, Developers, Developers" in his sleep. When MS starts to think that choice is a good thing, then perhaps we have entered into the age of Aquarius. But until then, MS will always try to make all software work better on Windows at the expense of the competition.
Nice sig. Did you read this book?: http://www.amazon.com/Book-Taboo-Against-Knowing-Who/dp/0679723005 Interesting topic. Scott
"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people." Amendment X to the Constitution
Damn straight they work for us. Why and how do they forget this? Just what are they smoking?
Thank you for putting a finer point on it. I'd like to promote the idea of video taping searches.
Scott
I would be happy to participate in mock elections to see how the machines work and how they are tested. :)
Tell me about it. I got hired into a job where the goal is to reduce outside consulting to zero. I'm one guy, supporting close to 50 users and I have to know everything about everything. The phone system, the security system, the servers, and all applications.
I doubt if there is one guy who "knows it all" because I've seen just how complicated these things really are.
Is it reasonable to even hope that one guy could do it all?
Thank you. I totally respect our military for their skill and their honor. I just didn't know if anyone in the military has compassion for the people in Iraq.
What I mean to say is that you are at least looking at the people there before making any assumptions about who is a terrorist or a murderer.
Hear, hear. You get more flies with honey than with vinegar.
Everyone rises to their own level of incompetence.
Thanks for point that out. I'd like to say that I really enjoy the Q&A sessions here. There's some really helpful and useful information shared here.
Information just enjoys propagation and that's what I see here.
Yes, there are some high-horse types here and there, but by and large, I see more cooperation than denigration.