"More important, can the prosecutor PROVE that she intended to drive the girl to suicide?"
My guess is no, which is why she was indicted under hacking charges and not murder. Its not clear from any article what this woman 'hacked' though. I suspect this will get overturned. Its murky at best.
"If MySpace's terms of service prohibit this kind of behavior then the defendant has violated her contract with MySpace (i.e. committed an act of fraud)."
Fraud is criminal, but violation of terms of service is a civil offense, isn't it? otherwise wouldn't anybody running an open wireless router off their cable modem be risking jail time?
Hell, put a platoon of marines to guard a platoon of engineers (do engineers come in platoons?) to run the stuff out of the village trailers for a year, and now we're talking scalable cost-effective liberation.
Double down as disaster recovery for the likes of Myanmar and NOLA (replacing marines with Nat'l guard domestically). Screw the UN, countries would be lining up around the block to be our friends.
Yeah, I know it would never be that simple, and it would be a hard sell to J. Q. Taxpayer because it doesn't involve spectacular explosions, but I think those are mostly implementation details.
So true. We seemed to be doing better when people were just hating on McDonald's instead of the fact that we're punching them in the metaphorical balls.
I mean, I can kind of see where the likes of Bush and Bill Kristol are coming from: Liberate the people and they'll buy more of our stuff. Nice theory, but its flawed because A.) You can't liberate people unless they think its their own idea, ie they have to liberate themselves, and B.) There's way more people to liberate in this world than we have soldiers to liberate them, so it will naturally quickly get to the point where we're spending more on liberation than we are taking in selling stuff to the liberated. And I would add C.) After you liberate them, you have to follow through.
Shortcuts get taken, people inevitably get screwed. That's exactly what happened in Afghanistan. No follow through. A billion dollars to get the Soviets out and we balked when it came time to build schools. Our mistake was thinking that what they needed was to kick out the Soviets, when we didn't address what the hell the Soviets were doing there in the first place: pushing over an easily pushed over country with no infrastructure to speak of. Probably either for the opium or the pipeline connection to countries that matter, or both.
I'm not a political scientist by the way, this is just the way I've observed how the world works. I'm quite open to modifications to that thinking.
Seriously though, why do we care that some random blogger in a random dictatorship is jailed for blogging? I mean, its unfortunate, don't get me wrong, but its not entirely unexpected from Syria. I'd say the guy got off pretty lucky considering he still probably has his hands.
So either you're trying to say "Look how great the USA is: We can blog about anything we want without fear of going to jail, unlike Syria for example", or you're saying "Look how horrible Syria is, where you can't even blog about anything you want without fear of going to jail!".
If its the former, no duh, we already knew that. If its the latter, are you trying to get us to want to do something about it? and if so, what do you propose? that we bring them democracy at the barrel of our depleted uranium guns?
What is it that this article is trying to tell us that we didn't know already?
What planet are *you* from? This is planet slashdot, where regulation of *anything under any circumstances* is bad bad bad. Especially things required by and/or derived from the commons. The free market always works on planet slashdot, my friend. And don't go trying to argue about it, with your "facts" and "timelines". The real fact is, government regulation is Communism, pinko, and Communism was proven to be bad (by the government). And the government can never be wrong. Except about regulation. Don't make me think too hard about it because that hurts my head.
Replying to my own post here, but I think this example illustrates the Doctorow Effect brilliantly. Something he does that is patently douchy is twisted by his followers into being something cool, because something cool (like xkcd) later references it in a mostly neutral or even non-douchy (although i would argue he is being made fun of here, but its subtle) context.
Yeah, informative no less. I honestly don't know if that's because the mods hate cory as much as I do, or they don't know what 'horrendous fanfic' means.
That's because he's a hipster wannabe posing as a technology guru. Which wouldn't be so bad if he wasn't such an attention whore about the whole thing.
Oh yeah. That's Boingboing's whole thing. Its OK to do whatever the fuck we want with anybody else's IP, so long as it makes money for us. Strangely, that doesn't work the other way around save for Cory's lameass Disney fanfic he licenses under CC.
dude, he meant "only the stupid would use *some* drugs". YOu know, the ones the gubment says are badmmmkay. Also, did you just imply that a slashdot poster would know anything about having sex? I mean the actual practical application of it, not the theory, we all know the theory...
Wow, what a technicality. You should be a lawyer. Think of all the child molesters and murderers you could let go free.
There were plenty of *cultures* in North and South America dating back to the time before Christ. Whether they were "civilizations' or not is apparently debatable, although my guess is the Nazcas (300BC) and the Anasazi (??BC) at the very least would qualify under your very strict definition. Probably whoever evolved into the maya as well. Granted, these peoples were hunter-gathering when the greeks and Egyptians were conquering the known world, but that is beside the point. A civilization capable of crossing the atlantic and conquering Europe could not have possibly emerged, given the ingredients those peoples had to work with.
Does that mean then that all of our UIDs would increment by one? Then so would the guy who figured out how to travel back in time, but then the UID of his past self would be one UID higher then the UID his future self would remember being ID'd by.
Actually, its worse than that. Say he took UID # 9997. Everybody after that would be incremented by one, but from the perspective of the people with UIDs lower than that, it would appear as though nothing even happened. The only way to avoid this paradox would be to take UID #0001, the so called "God" UID. But that UID is only rumored to exist, in hushed circles by the light of the waxing moon...
"There are different kinds of intelligence. Some people can solve complicated problems like getting laid but can't handle simple problems like calculating pi to 15 places using a couple of paper clips a rubber band and a slinky. This doesn't make them useless to society, and I think we should celebrate our differences."
And then there's me... I can get laid, but only by using a couple of paper clips, a rubber band and a slinky.
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"More important, can the prosecutor PROVE that she intended to drive the girl to suicide?"
My guess is no, which is why she was indicted under hacking charges and not murder. Its not clear from any article what this woman 'hacked' though. I suspect this will get overturned. Its murky at best.
"If MySpace's terms of service prohibit this kind of behavior then the defendant has violated her contract with MySpace (i.e. committed an act of fraud)."
Fraud is criminal, but violation of terms of service is a civil offense, isn't it? otherwise wouldn't anybody running an open wireless router off their cable modem be risking jail time?
well, that we know of anyway, right?
Hell, put a platoon of marines to guard a platoon of engineers (do engineers come in platoons?) to run the stuff out of the village trailers for a year, and now we're talking scalable cost-effective liberation.
Double down as disaster recovery for the likes of Myanmar and NOLA (replacing marines with Nat'l guard domestically). Screw the UN, countries would be lining up around the block to be our friends.
Yeah, I know it would never be that simple, and it would be a hard sell to J. Q. Taxpayer because it doesn't involve spectacular explosions, but I think those are mostly implementation details.
You didn't know Syria was a dictatorship/horrible place? I'm curious, what exactly did you think was the meaning of "Axis of Evil"?
So true. We seemed to be doing better when people were just hating on McDonald's instead of the fact that we're punching them in the metaphorical balls.
I mean, I can kind of see where the likes of Bush and Bill Kristol are coming from: Liberate the people and they'll buy more of our stuff. Nice theory, but its flawed because A.) You can't liberate people unless they think its their own idea, ie they have to liberate themselves, and B.) There's way more people to liberate in this world than we have soldiers to liberate them, so it will naturally quickly get to the point where we're spending more on liberation than we are taking in selling stuff to the liberated. And I would add C.) After you liberate them, you have to follow through.
Shortcuts get taken, people inevitably get screwed. That's exactly what happened in Afghanistan. No follow through. A billion dollars to get the Soviets out and we balked when it came time to build schools. Our mistake was thinking that what they needed was to kick out the Soviets, when we didn't address what the hell the Soviets were doing there in the first place: pushing over an easily pushed over country with no infrastructure to speak of. Probably either for the opium or the pipeline connection to countries that matter, or both.
I'm not a political scientist by the way, this is just the way I've observed how the world works. I'm quite open to modifications to that thinking.
Haven't you ever been to Syria? They keep it in a shoebox under the Prestige Minister's bed, and bring it out when they have company over.
That'll teach 'em about prestige of the state.
Seriously though, why do we care that some random blogger in a random dictatorship is jailed for blogging? I mean, its unfortunate, don't get me wrong, but its not entirely unexpected from Syria. I'd say the guy got off pretty lucky considering he still probably has his hands.
So either you're trying to say "Look how great the USA is: We can blog about anything we want without fear of going to jail, unlike Syria for example", or you're saying "Look how horrible Syria is, where you can't even blog about anything you want without fear of going to jail!".
If its the former, no duh, we already knew that. If its the latter, are you trying to get us to want to do something about it? and if so, what do you propose? that we bring them democracy at the barrel of our depleted uranium guns?
What is it that this article is trying to tell us that we didn't know already?
Do they smoke grass out in space, or do they smoke astroturf (ooooooh)?
"What planet are you from? The California energy crisis only started AFTER the electricity market was deregulated. Look at the timeline. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_energy_crisis"
What planet are *you* from? This is planet slashdot, where regulation of *anything under any circumstances* is bad bad bad. Especially things required by and/or derived from the commons. The free market always works on planet slashdot, my friend. And don't go trying to argue about it, with your "facts" and "timelines". The real fact is, government regulation is Communism, pinko, and Communism was proven to be bad (by the government). And the government can never be wrong. Except about regulation. Don't make me think too hard about it because that hurts my head.
Replying to my own post here, but I think this example illustrates the Doctorow Effect brilliantly. Something he does that is patently douchy is twisted by his followers into being something cool, because something cool (like xkcd) later references it in a mostly neutral or even non-douchy (although i would argue he is being made fun of here, but its subtle) context.
I don't think so.
xkcd came on the scene like what, 2-3 years ago? This story of first class douchebaggery is from 2002.
Yeah, informative no less. I honestly don't know if that's because the mods hate cory as much as I do, or they don't know what 'horrendous fanfic' means.
Google Mig Goggles Doctorow. I'm pretty sure *that* made him a douche long before he fucked up his kid's name.
That's because he's a hipster wannabe posing as a technology guru. Which wouldn't be so bad if he wasn't such an attention whore about the whole thing.
Oh yeah. That's Boingboing's whole thing. Its OK to do whatever the fuck we want with anybody else's IP, so long as it makes money for us. Strangely, that doesn't work the other way around save for Cory's lameass Disney fanfic he licenses under CC.
"Hell, I bet you could even use something like Yahoo Pipes to ignore the parts of Boing Boing that are annoying."
Yeah, but are you really going to go to the page just to look at their CSS spacer gifs?
On the bright side, this must mean that Cory no longer lives in the US. I'd call that a victory of sorts.
"Am I missing something? Cure for cancer, grand unified theory, anything?"
How about horrendous Disney fanfic?
I'm not kidding.
dude, he meant "only the stupid would use *some* drugs". YOu know, the ones the gubment says are badmmmkay. Also, did you just imply that a slashdot poster would know anything about having sex? I mean the actual practical application of it, not the theory, we all know the theory...
Wow, what a technicality. You should be a lawyer. Think of all the child molesters and murderers you could let go free.
There were plenty of *cultures* in North and South America dating back to the time before Christ. Whether they were "civilizations' or not is apparently debatable, although my guess is the Nazcas (300BC) and the Anasazi (??BC) at the very least would qualify under your very strict definition. Probably whoever evolved into the maya as well. Granted, these peoples were hunter-gathering when the greeks and Egyptians were conquering the known world, but that is beside the point. A civilization capable of crossing the atlantic and conquering Europe could not have possibly emerged, given the ingredients those peoples had to work with.
Whoa.
Does that mean then that all of our UIDs would increment by one? Then so would the guy who figured out how to travel back in time, but then the UID of his past self would be one UID higher then the UID his future self would remember being ID'd by.
Actually, its worse than that. Say he took UID # 9997. Everybody after that would be incremented by one, but from the perspective of the people with UIDs lower than that, it would appear as though nothing even happened. The only way to avoid this paradox would be to take UID #0001, the so called "God" UID. But that UID is only rumored to exist, in hushed circles by the light of the waxing moon...
Whoa.
"There are different kinds of intelligence. Some people can solve complicated problems like getting laid but can't handle simple problems like calculating pi to 15 places using a couple of paper clips a rubber band and a slinky. This doesn't make them useless to society, and I think we should celebrate our differences."
And then there's me... I can get laid, but only by using a couple of paper clips, a rubber band and a slinky.
"Actually he was a sheepherder. But I think you missed the point of their argument. Jesus is supposed to be like Superman. He has powers, dude!"
Wait...Superman was king of the Jews, right?
Is this the dinosaur hunter's geeky brother?