I would bet a number of us could get you some temporary hosting until the end of the month...that is, as soon as this story falls off the front page...;-)
Hey, the least we could do is chip in the guy's PayPal tip jar.
MS has a history of playing with the FileSystem to specifically to lockout a competitor -- think OS/2 -- so your cynicism is founded, if not well.
However, I hope this FS change requires application rewrites. I really do. Then there will be *another* opportunity for users (single and coporate) to investigate alternative OSes, say a data-journalling Linux system? Especially since the newly rewritten software won't be [Ff]ree...
which browser are you using to post your c omments?
I guess the value of the data on the disk dictates how adventurous the Asker feels - and considering he was going to ghost it (I take it that the ghosting was not complete) it could possibly be pretty significant. A data recovery specialist may not be a bad suggestion in this case. Just cause you can doesn't mean you should.
I can't wait until pudge releases "Slurd" - the Slash implementation of Hurd. It offers:
All system services are processes in Perl (MacPerl, please) including any form of IO and cleartext authentication.
Users may create their own services that are available to themselves or others. Ex: a user my create a tree via a new SID and then post this SID anonyomously for other trolls, er, users, to access. Sound fun?
Network services start at low/no karma and gain karma based on the ratings of other services. This really reduces the threat of trolling service attacks. No more exploits such as FPs (frist pots) or HGDP (hot grits...) or other services. (Previously it was assumed that low UIDs were less apt to troll)...
You said a lot, much of it steering back towards a mainstream presentation and I could comment favorably on much of it, however, I am short of time so I will comment on something that sticks in my craw (as usual):
But you bring up GNOME, KDE, XFree, MC, and Emacs and I don't think any real UI methodology was used in this case. The only real goal is that the user can customize their interface to the system.
Unfortunately I must disagree the the user can customize his (the proper gender-ambiguous third-person singular pronoun; how I hate having to qualify this) UI with GKXME - the user can modify the UI as defined by the developers (or can develop his own, which is beyond the scope of our consideration). These applications have a defined UI, albeit it can be modified according to the user's desire/capability. Some framework was used for this UI. What? Guessing? Intuition? Or copying of someone else's UI? Since the 128K Mac the Interface has been excellent for the vast majority of computer users. Why? Probably more related to UI science than developer whim.
Mozilla rocks on OS X. Just dl'ed 0.9.9. Had trouble accessing the ADC download FTP (getting the OSX DevTools for my new TiG4) and tried all kinds of variations of IE5.1 w/Captian FTP and Fetch, iCab, straight FTP from CLI, ncftp... nothing worked. Tried Mozilla 0.9.9 - boom! downloaded the 217MB file in 15 minutes (thanks, Cox HSI!).
An aside, I called Apple developer support about the problem -- they have an 800 number on the web site -- and within a minute I was speaking with a knowledgeable person who helped me, an OS X novice, and escallated my problem promising a call back within 24 hours. 20 minutes later I received a call back with more information. D@mn that's impressive.
Do you have any idea how ridiculous your post reads? Do you?
I don't need a "friend" out of Apple -- or Linus, for that mater -- I need a product that works.
As an aside, I really like the moniker "GNU/Linux" - it warns me of the religion of the writer.
None of your points were helpful or useful. Rhetorical, yes, but academically only. For example, your assertion
UI science is little more than averaging out the preferences of many potential software users.
begs the question, "So GNOME is the result of a better method than UI science? Or would that be KDE? XFree? MidnightCommander? Emacs?" Come on... GNU isn't all about choice, either, it's a free implementation of a proprietary system that Worked (TM). GNU - which is available on my OS X, BTW, is an awesome acheivement whose time has come. But I won't use a tool for merely philosophical reasons. Nor will I reject it outright. In your world, any choice besides GNU/* is an invalid one.
Everyone knows that the second generation lags behind the first in zeal.
However, from my perspective you've buttressed my point: faithful old-style Mac users are reticent to adopt the new Mac OS X. To me, moving off the Intel platform is a huge jump, so I'm easily prepared for the cost and unfamiliarity of OS X. I just see OS X itself; not in context of 20+ years of incremental development junked (running an emulator for the old stuff is "junking" it -- emulators are always more painful than native so by not providing native support for classic applications, which could have been done I would think through hardware (just guessing), the intention to drop the old was made clear). But, to be honest, I was never tempted to use Mac OS 9 and the radical departure was a benefit to me.
The last time I was familiar with Mac OS, 6.2 was just released. Looking at OS 9 is incredibly confusing and unappealing to me. OS X attracts me. However, my partner is a Mac-using graphic artist/ videographer/ web designer and moving to OS X took resolve on his part.
I guess Mac users (loyalists) expected the new Mac to be like the old but better. It reminds me of the transition between Apple// and the Mac - radical, string-cutting change. I view the prior Mac OSes the way a Mac 512k'er viewed Apple ProDos - glad to be free of that.
I, too, bought my first Mac on Saturday: a Titanium G4 550 (couldn't quite bring myself to pay for the true top-end...). Immediately I was dissapointed because, upon booting the Ti, OS9 came up. OS9 looks like a kludge with widgets everywhere, thus betraying it's age and drifting from the roots of simplicity; to me, of course. However, I was happy to find the way to switch to OS X and did so. I have no need for OS9 - I have no loved OS9 apps that I must use. Soon I will remove OS9 from my system (as soon as I determine there really is nothing interesting for me there).
Booting OS X...wow. Slick, solid, clean, clear. D*mn this is nice. After getting my bearings for an hour or so I looked around my room and began cleaning it up -- something my wife has always requested unsucessfully. Perhaps the clutter that is Windows and KDE/Gnome acclimated me to clutter? Whatever the reason, I'm affected by the slickness of the hardware, software and combination of the two of my PowerBook Ti running OS X.
Until now I've run my life and work off a Toshiba 2805 with RedHat 7.2 and Win4Lin for Win98SE client-side testing. Frequently I'd need to spend time directly in the Windows world (Win4Lin is great as a temporary testing environment but when I'm doing serious client-side development and need to depend on IE, native is the best). Switching between Windows and Linux (running KDE 2 as my desktop; hate Gnome) I couldn't help but notice how unpolished the GUI on Linux is compared to Windows. Windows, for all it's other problems (and they are legion) feels substantial as a desktop. Linux felt tenuous - I can't explain exactly why, that was just my sense. Perhaps it was switching between GTK+ and KDE based apps...and straight X apps... OS X is totally different. Awesome.
My next step (heehee) after getting online was to seek out the Mac Community. Right away I realized there are two camps: bewildered, disaffected Mac loyalists who are resisting the new Mac Way and eye-opened, gaga Unix/Linux geeks overwhelmed with the marvellous marriage of UNIX and GUI that is OS X. Of course, some are happier than others, but I just ignore the heretics (kidding). My I'm bookmarking the OS X-specific web sites and ignoring OS9-oriented sites. There's nothing for me in OS 9. OS X has everything I need:
UNIX
gnu tools (thanks to fink)
clean interface
iDVD for watching movies with the wife
iMovie for EASILY creating movies of the kids for their grandparents.
Virtual PC for testing client-side stuff with Windows IE
coolness
I'll be participating in the Mac community - the Mac OS X community, that is. I think I'll start by getting that Learning Cocoa book...yeah, that's my NeXTSTEP...
Ok - here's the follow-up: I bought a G4 Ti yesterday. Let me say it is fantastic. I'm already up and running, productive. I almost re-installed OS X on it (because it started in OS 9) until I RTFineM'ed and realized that my usual 4 to 5 hour installation and setup for a new computer was reduced to, well, plugging it in. I even attached my MiniDV camera and slurpped video into iMovie -- without spending hours getting the setting for the Pyro card, codecs, ULead (crap) editor; I just plugged it in and iMovie said "Camera Connected" and it just freaking worked. No setup.
OS X is Unix, so I'm quite comfortable setting up my terminal environment and will install a local copy of my work environment later today.
The only problem: I bought it from Fry's and got an Airport Card with it but no one told me I'd need a special screwdriver to remove the back of the Ti to install it. So, I'm using the built-in ethernet port. C'est le vie.
"Hi, My name is Robert Taylor and I am a Mac OS X Convert."
keyword: refurbished. That makes sense. Ripping OS X out of a new PowerBook...well, I'd rather not pay the hardware premium (a new PowerBook is $$$) for the privilege of running Linux.
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Hey, the least we could do is chip in the guy's PayPal tip jar.
However, I hope this FS change requires application rewrites. I really do. Then there will be *another* opportunity for users (single and coporate) to investigate alternative OSes, say a data-journalling Linux system? Especially since the newly rewritten software won't be [Ff]ree...
Very interesting development - I know my company wants to move all our development and hosting to G4s...I'll pass this story upline.
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I guess the value of the data on the disk dictates how adventurous the Asker feels - and considering he was going to ghost it (I take it that the ghosting was not complete) it could possibly be pretty significant. A data recovery specialist may not be a bad suggestion in this case. Just cause you can doesn't mean you should.
- Microsoft
- Sun
- IBM
- Xerox
- RedHat
Anyway, there's cruft in there (but the leading '.' cuts out a lot of "near misses".fantastic. I will remember this. Any documentation on this anywhere?
Yeah, I read the reviews: warmed over NeXTSTEP documentation, but it was the only title I could recall offhand ;-)
- All system services are processes in Perl (MacPerl, please) including any form of IO and cleartext authentication.
- Users may create their own services that are available to themselves or others. Ex: a user my create a tree via a new SID and then post this SID anonyomously for other trolls, er, users, to access. Sound fun?
- Network services start at low/no karma and gain karma based on the ratings of other services. This really reduces the threat of trolling service attacks. No more exploits such as FPs (frist pots) or HGDP (hot grits...) or other services. (Previously it was assumed that low UIDs were less apt to troll)...
If these aren't enough fun...read K5...- Apple is making strides in scientfic fileds--they have every right to be gassy about it.
er, Be Gasse?- But you bring up GNOME, KDE, XFree, MC, and Emacs and I don't think any real UI methodology was used in this case. The only real goal is that the user can customize their interface to the system.
Unfortunately I must disagree the the user can customize his (the proper gender-ambiguous third-person singular pronoun; how I hate having to qualify this) UI with GKXME - the user can modify the UI as defined by the developers (or can develop his own, which is beyond the scope of our consideration). These applications have a defined UI, albeit it can be modified according to the user's desire/capability. Some framework was used for this UI. What? Guessing? Intuition? Or copying of someone else's UI? Since the 128K Mac the Interface has been excellent for the vast majority of computer users. Why? Probably more related to UI science than developer whim.Re: GNU on OS X - see the fink project.
Mozilla rocks on OS X. Just dl'ed 0.9.9. Had trouble accessing the ADC download FTP (getting the OSX DevTools for my new TiG4) and tried all kinds of variations of IE5.1 w/Captian FTP and Fetch, iCab, straight FTP from CLI, ncftp... nothing worked. Tried Mozilla 0.9.9 - boom! downloaded the 217MB file in 15 minutes (thanks, Cox HSI!).
An aside, I called Apple developer support about the problem -- they have an 800 number on the web site -- and within a minute I was speaking with a knowledgeable person who helped me, an OS X novice, and escallated my problem promising a call back within 24 hours. 20 minutes later I received a call back with more information. D@mn that's impressive.
I don't need a "friend" out of Apple -- or Linus, for that mater -- I need a product that works.
As an aside, I really like the moniker "GNU/Linux" - it warns me of the religion of the writer.
None of your points were helpful or useful. Rhetorical, yes, but academically only. For example, your assertion
- UI science is little more than averaging out the preferences of many potential software users.
begs the question, "So GNOME is the result of a better method than UI science? Or would that be KDE? XFree? MidnightCommander? Emacs?" Come on... GNU isn't all about choice, either, it's a free implementation of a proprietary system that Worked (TM). GNU - which is available on my OS X, BTW, is an awesome acheivement whose time has come. But I won't use a tool for merely philosophical reasons. Nor will I reject it outright. In your world, any choice besides GNU/* is an invalid one.However, from my perspective you've buttressed my point: faithful old-style Mac users are reticent to adopt the new Mac OS X. To me, moving off the Intel platform is a huge jump, so I'm easily prepared for the cost and unfamiliarity of OS X. I just see OS X itself; not in context of 20+ years of incremental development junked (running an emulator for the old stuff is "junking" it -- emulators are always more painful than native so by not providing native support for classic applications, which could have been done I would think through hardware (just guessing), the intention to drop the old was made clear). But, to be honest, I was never tempted to use Mac OS 9 and the radical departure was a benefit to me.
The last time I was familiar with Mac OS, 6.2 was just released. Looking at OS 9 is incredibly confusing and unappealing to me. OS X attracts me. However, my partner is a Mac-using graphic artist/ videographer/ web designer and moving to OS X took resolve on his part.
I guess Mac users (loyalists) expected the new Mac to be like the old but better. It reminds me of the transition between Apple // and the Mac - radical, string-cutting change. I view the prior Mac OSes the way a Mac 512k'er viewed Apple ProDos - glad to be free of that.
Booting OS X...wow. Slick, solid, clean, clear. D*mn this is nice. After getting my bearings for an hour or so I looked around my room and began cleaning it up -- something my wife has always requested unsucessfully. Perhaps the clutter that is Windows and KDE/Gnome acclimated me to clutter? Whatever the reason, I'm affected by the slickness of the hardware, software and combination of the two of my PowerBook Ti running OS X.
Until now I've run my life and work off a Toshiba 2805 with RedHat 7.2 and Win4Lin for Win98SE client-side testing. Frequently I'd need to spend time directly in the Windows world (Win4Lin is great as a temporary testing environment but when I'm doing serious client-side development and need to depend on IE, native is the best). Switching between Windows and Linux (running KDE 2 as my desktop; hate Gnome) I couldn't help but notice how unpolished the GUI on Linux is compared to Windows. Windows, for all it's other problems (and they are legion) feels substantial as a desktop. Linux felt tenuous - I can't explain exactly why, that was just my sense. Perhaps it was switching between GTK+ and KDE based apps...and straight X apps... OS X is totally different. Awesome.
My next step (heehee) after getting online was to seek out the Mac Community. Right away I realized there are two camps: bewildered, disaffected Mac loyalists who are resisting the new Mac Way and eye-opened, gaga Unix/Linux geeks overwhelmed with the marvellous marriage of UNIX and GUI that is OS X. Of course, some are happier than others, but I just ignore the heretics (kidding). My I'm bookmarking the OS X-specific web sites and ignoring OS9-oriented sites. There's nothing for me in OS 9. OS X has everything I need:
- UNIX
- gnu tools (thanks to fink)
- clean interface
- iDVD for watching movies with the wife
- iMovie for EASILY creating movies of the kids for their grandparents.
- Virtual PC for testing client-side stuff with Windows IE
- coolness
I'll be participating in the Mac community - the Mac OS X community, that is. I think I'll start by getting that Learning Cocoa book...yeah, that's my NeXTSTEP...OS X is Unix, so I'm quite comfortable setting up my terminal environment and will install a local copy of my work environment later today.
The only problem: I bought it from Fry's and got an Airport Card with it but no one told me I'd need a special screwdriver to remove the back of the Ti to install it. So, I'm using the built-in ethernet port. C'est le vie.
"Hi, My name is Robert Taylor and I am a Mac OS X Convert."
Coming soon: my-ti.com.
That's what Everest is - Earth's system32. Of course, K2 is Earth's My Music.
Definitely not as cool as the OS X screenshots.
LOL. That was pretty funny. Thanks for the laugh.
I changed that to search for "images" here. Now, can someone explain why the "gnome" logo appears?
It's March - time to change your .sig ...
UTA? What was your major?
keyword: refurbished. That makes sense. Ripping OS X out of a new PowerBook...well, I'd rather not pay the hardware premium (a new PowerBook is $$$) for the privilege of running Linux.
think about it
Ever heard of WinHEC?
- If you want to stick it to the man, you could do the reverse and Block MSIE from your Site
Lessee...87% of our traffic have user agents "MSIE"... Yeah, that'll teach the man to visit us!