Natal IS taking 2D pictures. It's a webcam and an IR camera.
IR camera provides a height map while the web cam provides the 2D image. There may be MINIMAL stereoscopy going on, or possible, but the IR camera is a much lower resolution and both cameras are in a fixed position.
Mocap too expensive? What the fuck? Most games with a decent budget use motion capture for animations!
If you think Natal will be able to scan your car or your house, well, get ready for disappointment.
If you think this Tegra slashvertisement is about that, get ready for disappointment. Shit like what you want is not what the article is about, and is no where near ready. What we've seen are tech demos from a company looking to get bought out / get some investor cash.
Did some work for an electrical union (the office managing people's pensions and such) a couple of summers during high school.
We'd have people's names, SSNs, partial addresses, etc.
We needed to get mailings out to them.
Just hop on this website, click the "yes I'm authorized to look at this information" button, and then type in a name, phone number, partial address, or ssn.
You get a neat list of all peopel with that name/number/address/ssn (often multiple people with the same ssn LOL). You even get a cool little family tree graphed out for you.
Your SSN is out there , just waiting to be plucked by some unscrupulous intern.
Then edit foo on computer A and don't sync it back?
If you want to sync it back and keep all other versions, you can always, you know, name them as such.
foo - computer A - date.txt
Or
computer a - date\foo.txt
If you need to preserve file names and directory structure for a project, then yes, it's easier with some sort of CVS (it does the exact same thing, it just wraps it up and automates shit). Most people don't need anything near as complicated as a CVS. Certainly not 1 guy, 2 servers, and a laptop.
Why point a device at a manual and watch the diagram? Why not watch the diagram on the device?
The tech is NOWHERE near being able to take a random 3D diagram to explode, nor will it ever be. There is information lost in the 2D diagram.
If we're making diagrams with extra information for the reader (such as a different angle, or a colored height map or occlusion info), why not just make the fucking 3D diagram itself?
It's a neat gimmick, but it's just that. They looked at a newspaper and got... a dancing goober? A video? Why the fuck wouldn't I just go to the content directly if I had access to it?
Device points at thing. Device recognizes thing. Device checks database for content for thing. Device populates content. No content? Add gremlin for lols.
That's all the newspaper demo was. I'd fucking just go straight to the content and skip the physical newspaper, and the dedicated device if possible.
It's neat, but it's a gimmick. This is all just a slashvertisement for Tegra.
What I've seen ISN'T interesting, is my point, and it's nothing new.
Natal is all marketing. And it won't even be out for at least another year.
Other attempts to incorporate real-world elements into games have always been a huge failure or a pointless gimmick. Same for drawing game elements over a video feed of the real world.
This shit is gimmicky. No one has shown a way to make this shit improve gameplay. It's always "take a pic and have it be in the game" type shit.
The ONLY advances we've seen lately are better image processing techniques and faster CPUs.
Microsoft's Natal can recognize a player's skeletal structure
No it can't. It identifies a few joints.
and also perform some sophisticated translation of body physics into in-game movement.
If by sophisticated, you mean "primitive", sure.
As a control mechanism this is fascinating,
Not really, we've had this shit for ages, and it's never really taken off outside of fixed machines (arcades, real sports, etc.)
but the next step is to merge the game graphics with the real world.
I'd say the next step is launching the damned thing.
Now, basic examples of augmented reality (AR) are being shown using a mobile phone, unlike previous demos which have involved walking around with a large backpack strapped to your body.
And...?
A game titled Arhrrrr blends live-action video overlaid with game graphics. The processing is taken care of by Nvidia's new Tegra platform,
Ah, so this is just a slashvertisement for Tegra. Tegra is a fucking dog turd.
while the game's 'maps' are generated by pointing the phone's camera (in this case 5MP) at a 2D drawing/printout lying on a table.
So it takes a picture of a map and makes a... map?
The end result is a 3D world which seems to spring forth in real time, with buildings popping up as players move around the game 'map.'
I've seen this before and it was nothing but a poorly executed gimmick.
This story shows two other interesting videos demonstrating AR, including the ability to add real-life objects into the virtual game world and have the gameplay respond and react accordingly.
Again, nothing new. We've had "take a pic and put it in the game" shit for ages. It's never anything more than a gimmick. When you let users make the content, it's just crappy designs with dicks everywhere. When you have companies make the content, it's all just fucking advertising.
Seems to me people play games to get away from a lot of the bullshit in the real world.
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Natal IS taking 2D pictures.
It's a webcam and an IR camera.
IR camera provides a height map while the web cam provides the 2D image. There may be MINIMAL stereoscopy going on, or possible, but the IR camera is a much lower resolution and both cameras are in a fixed position.
Mocap too expensive? What the fuck? Most games with a decent budget use motion capture for animations!
If you think Natal will be able to scan your car or your house, well, get ready for disappointment.
If you think this Tegra slashvertisement is about that, get ready for disappointment. Shit like what you want is not what the article is about, and is no where near ready. What we've seen are tech demos from a company looking to get bought out / get some investor cash.
Did some work for an electrical union (the office managing people's pensions and such) a couple of summers during high school.
We'd have people's names, SSNs, partial addresses, etc.
We needed to get mailings out to them.
Just hop on this website, click the "yes I'm authorized to look at this information" button, and then type in a name, phone number, partial address, or ssn.
You get a neat list of all peopel with that name/number/address/ssn (often multiple people with the same ssn LOL). You even get a cool little family tree graphed out for you.
Your SSN is out there , just waiting to be plucked by some unscrupulous intern.
Buy slashvertising space, get a free bucket of mod points?
http://www.hightechscience.org/Sparrow_for_Goldmember_1b.JPG
You're modded troll.
Why?
100% truth.
Flushed?
Seems to me Ford is the only American car company still alive. And they're doing quite well, actually.
Funded by postage, and subsidized by taxes.
$550B ? I sure hope B stands for bullshit.
$50000 is affordable?
It's not even scheduled to be ready for 2 fucking years.
Clean transportation? If that were a factor, we'd have a national rail by now.
I fail to see how a $50,000 car that isn't even built yet provides for the general welfare of the country.
Loan my ass.
That money is fucking gone.
Spent on hookers and blow in private jets.
The same Chinese laborer in the same Chinese factory is making the same Chinese originals and Chinese knockoffs.
THAT'S how they beat the protection.
They're the one's fucking implementing it in the first place.
If they didn't use <blink> and <marquee> the masses won't notice it.
Fail.
Pelvis was obliterated due to snu-snu.
Then edit foo on computer A and don't sync it back?
If you want to sync it back and keep all other versions, you can always, you know, name them as such.
foo - computer A - date.txt
Or
computer a - date\foo.txt
If you need to preserve file names and directory structure for a project, then yes, it's easier with some sort of CVS (it does the exact same thing, it just wraps it up and automates shit). Most people don't need anything near as complicated as a CVS. Certainly not 1 guy, 2 servers, and a laptop.
Why point a device at a manual and watch the diagram? Why not watch the diagram on the device?
The tech is NOWHERE near being able to take a random 3D diagram to explode, nor will it ever be.
There is information lost in the 2D diagram.
If we're making diagrams with extra information for the reader (such as a different angle, or a colored height map or occlusion info), why not just make the fucking 3D diagram itself?
It's a neat gimmick, but it's just that. They looked at a newspaper and got... a dancing goober? A video? Why the fuck wouldn't I just go to the content directly if I had access to it?
Device points at thing.
Device recognizes thing.
Device checks database for content for thing.
Device populates content.
No content? Add gremlin for lols.
That's all the newspaper demo was.
I'd fucking just go straight to the content and skip the physical newspaper, and the dedicated device if possible.
It's neat, but it's a gimmick.
This is all just a slashvertisement for Tegra.
How about, we already have games that do this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifvVLer7_d0&feature=related
I never understood the obsession with 3D Parties or their camera batteries.
2D for life, bitches.
I think encryption might be a legal issue.
Some countries don't let people encrypt shit.
Of course shit will just go elsewhere. But there are real people making real money off of direct download sites' copyright infringement.
Those people will be fucked.
And the bay is still the king.
What I've seen ISN'T interesting, is my point, and it's nothing new.
Natal is all marketing. And it won't even be out for at least another year.
Other attempts to incorporate real-world elements into games have always been a huge failure or a pointless gimmick. Same for drawing game elements over a video feed of the real world.
This shit is gimmicky. No one has shown a way to make this shit improve gameplay. It's always "take a pic and have it be in the game" type shit.
The ONLY advances we've seen lately are better image processing techniques and faster CPUs.
You provided no evidence, as I pointed out.
That's right, you didn't have a dciginc link. I was looking at the first page of google results for JBOD and wasn't finding your links.
Your open solaris link is a forum post by some guy.
Dude.
JBOD is a fucking standard. It has a meaning.
I can't go around saying RAID 1 has striping and have it be a valid claim.
JBOD means a bunch of disks, with data spanned across them, presented by the controller to the host as a single volume.
This is what it is. It's a definition.
Natal is 2 webcams, one tuned to IR.
It's got some software behind it.
It's not cutting edge.
Do you believe the Milo/Milly demos? Those were scripted, you know.
Microsoft's Natal can recognize a player's skeletal structure
No it can't. It identifies a few joints.
and also perform some sophisticated translation of body physics into in-game movement.
If by sophisticated, you mean "primitive", sure.
As a control mechanism this is fascinating,
Not really, we've had this shit for ages, and it's never really taken off outside of fixed machines (arcades, real sports, etc.)
but the next step is to merge the game graphics with the real world.
I'd say the next step is launching the damned thing.
Now, basic examples of augmented reality (AR) are being shown using a mobile phone, unlike previous demos which have involved walking around with a large backpack strapped to your body.
And...?
A game titled Arhrrrr blends live-action video overlaid with game graphics. The processing is taken care of by Nvidia's new Tegra platform,
Ah, so this is just a slashvertisement for Tegra. Tegra is a fucking dog turd.
while the game's 'maps' are generated by pointing the phone's camera (in this case 5MP) at a 2D drawing/printout lying on a table.
So it takes a picture of a map and makes a ... map?
The end result is a 3D world which seems to spring forth in real time, with buildings popping up as players move around the game 'map.'
I've seen this before and it was nothing but a poorly executed gimmick.
This story shows two other interesting videos demonstrating AR, including the ability to add real-life objects into the virtual game world and have the gameplay respond and react accordingly.
Again, nothing new. We've had "take a pic and put it in the game" shit for ages. It's never anything more than a gimmick. When you let users make the content, it's just crappy designs with dicks everywhere. When you have companies make the content, it's all just fucking advertising.
Seems to me people play games to get away from a lot of the bullshit in the real world.
I'm surprised it took this long.
It should be just a matter of months before shit hits the fan with all the other ones.