hey thanks man - I'll give that a try. I know the version off of fakebook is the wrong one (close, but still too polished) and I have a live one from france, and it is VERY bad, but in a way different than I was looking for.
I think it was yo la tengo - but all the versions I find of it - while indeed bad - aren't as bad as the one I heard on the radio.
I went to the wesite for the radio station at williams and e-mailed one of the main guys - perhaps they can stir it up - otherwise I'll just harass random strangers.
I like the journal entries cm, I think we've all been there at one time or another. I own the url http://www.ijustshitmypants.com (not joking either) - so perhaps we have something in common, we both need help.
my mom used to yell at me for sharing with myself.
seriously though, there are any number of clients now to any number of services, all free, that I can get just about anything I want from it. granted, anything I want is pretty minor. I don't look for entire programs and such. but one can find plenty of porn, and plenty of music.
with LimeWire, the only thing two problems I ever had (other than the older client crashing all the time) were 1) I wanted a song that was obscure ('speeding motorcycle' sung by what sounded to be a drunken retarded person into a radio statio via a long distance phone call from a pay phone - hard to find, but a great song - still can't get it, I know they played it on the radio station back in college), and 2)... I'm not sure I recall what 2 was... oh yeah (stream of consciousness post) it is annoying when they are behind firewalls and you can't get to the stuff - but those are easy enough to see which are which, they usually have IP addresses similar to my own machines which sit behind a linksys router.
right. care to elaborate? I use limewire and think it is fine - much better IMO than any version of Napster I ever had, and I'm not going to be paying to use napster, and I don't know anyone that is.
if I recall correctly, that was shown to in fact not be a true quantum process but instead massively parallel.... but since I haven't read the perdue link yet, hard to say:)
if you've ever written code for it, the nvidia is sweet - and they rock with opengl and directx, so I'm not entirely sure why they would then close all that down all for their own stuff. nothing points in that direction now.
slashdot has plenty of conspiracy theorists on it, that is for sure.
that was the sole reason I never got a mac. I was warming up to the idea of getting one, but now I'm definitely never going to use them after they dicked me over with an airport card and then their ensuing return policy, or lackthereof
the problem with this being discussed here is that everyone that reads slashdot is already a step (at least) more tech savvy than the usual joe user out there, and/or the average lawmaker.
basically it doesn't matter if we go on and on here about how it is wrong - it might make us feel good to all praise each other and pat each other on the back for good points, and point fingers at the idiots - but when it is all said and done, some dumbfuck in congress will have far more power with far less knowledge as to why one wants/needs it.
and then there is the conspiracy theory where they are taking advatage of this opportunity to do what they've wanted all along. they are out to get you, and your porn collection. (although I do feel that the whole anti-porn crusade that is/was on the net comes largely from the goverment wanting control over the net to tax it and such, and the dipshit religious right is so strong in the gov't and in america in general that porn is an easy target to get people behind them - this whole encryption thing is similar with the terrorists - doubtful they acutally did the act, but perhaps are taking advatage of it)
the paragraphs you mention are what I was referring to - the thing wasn't a hack - he simply went through a proxy that yahoo internals go through so that he looks like a yahoo internal... not a hack - all he did was walk through an open door.
I'm not belittling what he did, it was still good to point out the fact that yahoo had zero security there, but I was just laughing at how serious they made it sound.
as if he had done some brilliant programming to get by - they say it wasn't special - but then they call him an adept hacker and such - humorous.
and then the point being that to assume that it is secure b/c you couldn't ever figure something out is stupid in that just b/c you can't figure it out, doesn't mean nobody can figure it out.
my dad had a dog that could turn the doorknobs on doors and get out of rooms that way. that was a security flaw not to lock it or prevent it another way - assume that something can't be done, and when it then is found out how to do it, you are then screwed.
instead, assume that it CAN be done, and then protect yourself (your site, your app, your database, whatever) against that.
I was asking how it was a hack - nothing was hacked, he just followed a link.
the "security" in place wasn't any sort of security other than assuming people wouldn't know about the proxy - and if you assume that, then you are retarded.
your analogies are poor at best, and either way, they are wrong in this case - sorry.
well, in our own site, the dipshit designer assumed nobody would figure out how the 32digit GUID in the URL was determined.
to show him he was wrong, I then did indeed figure out how it was determined (the username and date xor'ed) and then got into the database - and while I was at it - I showed them via a perl script how the credit card encrtyption algorithm (again a stupid xor'ing) was worthless for the most part if someone got in.
he didn't do anything than go to what they said was a wide open url - it was "secured" via obscurity - you weren't supposed to know about it.
I don't know how many times dipshits here in my office have suggested that parts of our app were sucure b/c "how would anyone ever figure out that url" - duh - so I showed them.
what pisses me off is these people are everywhere and don't get fired and are still allowed to make these retarded design decisions.
the update does help clarify it a bit... but not really. so they want to open communication a bit... that would imply that they woud still maintain other ways of encryption, not all... but if that is the case, then why not encrypt your communication via that method.... so that means in order to get around that, then you would have to open all crypto systems, which then gets us back to where we started - very bad things.
in light of what just happened, it very much seems that something needs to be done so that we can preventthis in the future - yet this isn't the solution at all.
frustratingly enough, the american public doesn't know or care to know enough about crypto to get why this is bad - sothey are all for anything that would help prevent this disaster - but they can't see past their nose to see the broad picture.
it is analogous (sp?) in many ways to the way that eveyrone is talking about going after Bin and bombing the countries and such - when that is a very minor part, there are many other terrorist orgs, and there are many people to take his place after we martyrize (sp?) him....
I certainly don't have the answers, but I'll gladly point out problems in bad solutions.
I've considered those - but I've also considered a laptop. I don't want a laptop b/c i like big ergo split keyboards - I can barely type on the normal kind (I have big hands and the MS natural keyboard was a godsend with the extra space).
last I saw those keypads, while they were cool the way they folded.... I still couldn't use them.
and even if they USB where you could plug in a natural keyboard... then it is still useless for obvious reasons.
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The protocol was great (is great) for sending messages that you don't care if anyone else sees.
The two main problems I had with it were 1) the devices it was used on tended to have screens just slightly larger than my thumb - which again is perfectly fine if you want to send and display a message that says "you suck balls" to your friend in LA, but if you want to render out a page, then it looks god awful and you have to use short words. and then 2) it isn't secure at all, and it is slow... I guess that's really 3 there.
I work for a company that sells telcom software and I was given the task of porting an entire e-commerce site over to WAP - in about 2 weeks - which I did. but it was total idiocy - the number of forms and pages you had to go through was stupid and then it wasn't secure.
the only real good use of it was if you registered on the web via a computer, and then wanted to do small updates to your account via your handheld (buy more mins, recharge a pin, see your bill status).
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hey thanks man - I'll give that a try. I know the version off of fakebook is the wrong one (close, but still too polished) and I have a live one from france, and it is VERY bad, but in a way different than I was looking for.
I'll check this one out - thanks again!
there's nothing wrong with shaving your nuts... shaving other's is a different issue... especially if they are unaware or unwanting....
I think it was yo la tengo - but all the versions I find of it - while indeed bad - aren't as bad as the one I heard on the radio.
I went to the wesite for the radio station at williams and e-mailed one of the main guys - perhaps they can stir it up - otherwise I'll just harass random strangers.
ha h haa haa - yeah, good one.
she said that too.
I like the journal entries cm, I think we've all been there at one time or another. I own the url http://www.ijustshitmypants.com (not joking either) - so perhaps we have something in common, we both need help.
my mom used to yell at me for sharing with myself.
seriously though, there are any number of clients now to any number of services, all free, that I can get just about anything I want from it. granted, anything I want is pretty minor. I don't look for entire programs and such. but one can find plenty of porn, and plenty of music.
with LimeWire, the only thing two problems I ever had (other than the older client crashing all the time) were 1) I wanted a song that was obscure ('speeding motorcycle' sung by what sounded to be a drunken retarded person into a radio statio via a long distance phone call from a pay phone - hard to find, but a great song - still can't get it, I know they played it on the radio station back in college), and 2)... I'm not sure I recall what 2 was... oh yeah (stream of consciousness post) it is annoying when they are behind firewalls and you can't get to the stuff - but those are easy enough to see which are which, they usually have IP addresses similar to my own machines which sit behind a linksys router.
yeah. so there.
the free ones suck?
right. care to elaborate? I use limewire and think it is fine - much better IMO than any version of Napster I ever had, and I'm not going to be paying to use napster, and I don't know anyone that is.
why would we want to use it when it there are plenty of free ones there?
and it is easy enough to write your own if all the free ones disappear?
or sparkle or whatever the fuck that paper was.
:)
if I recall correctly, that was shown to in fact not be a true quantum process but instead massively parallel.... but since I haven't read the perdue link yet, hard to say
I agree with this person - mod him up.
if you've ever written code for it, the nvidia is sweet - and they rock with opengl and directx, so I'm not entirely sure why they would then close all that down all for their own stuff. nothing points in that direction now.
slashdot has plenty of conspiracy theorists on it, that is for sure.
that was the sole reason I never got a mac. I was warming up to the idea of getting one, but now I'm definitely never going to use them after they dicked me over with an airport card and then their ensuing return policy, or lackthereof
or midgets?
I hope he returned it soon afterwards
the problem with this being discussed here is that everyone that reads slashdot is already a step (at least) more tech savvy than the usual joe user out there, and/or the average lawmaker.
basically it doesn't matter if we go on and on here about how it is wrong - it might make us feel good to all praise each other and pat each other on the back for good points, and point fingers at the idiots - but when it is all said and done, some dumbfuck in congress will have far more power with far less knowledge as to why one wants/needs it.
and then there is the conspiracy theory where they are taking advatage of this opportunity to do what they've wanted all along. they are out to get you, and your porn collection. (although I do feel that the whole anti-porn crusade that is/was on the net comes largely from the goverment wanting control over the net to tax it and such, and the dipshit religious right is so strong in the gov't and in america in general that porn is an easy target to get people behind them - this whole encryption thing is similar with the terrorists - doubtful they acutally did the act, but perhaps are taking advatage of it)
so they still have enough to buy beer.
whew - that's nice. I was worried that a save-the-taco-fund would need to be started.
which I might consider reading?
the paragraphs you mention are what I was referring to - the thing wasn't a hack - he simply went through a proxy that yahoo internals go through so that he looks like a yahoo internal... not a hack - all he did was walk through an open door.
I'm not belittling what he did, it was still good to point out the fact that yahoo had zero security there, but I was just laughing at how serious they made it sound.
as if he had done some brilliant programming to get by - they say it wasn't special - but then they call him an adept hacker and such - humorous.
so what did the slashodot crew get when they were bought out?
what did it equate to at the time, and what does it now?
and where are my pants?
and then the point being that to assume that it is secure b/c you couldn't ever figure something out is stupid in that just b/c you can't figure it out, doesn't mean nobody can figure it out.
my dad had a dog that could turn the doorknobs on doors and get out of rooms that way. that was a security flaw not to lock it or prevent it another way - assume that something can't be done, and when it then is found out how to do it, you are then screwed.
instead, assume that it CAN be done, and then protect yourself (your site, your app, your database, whatever) against that.
huh?
I was asking how it was a hack - nothing was hacked, he just followed a link.
the "security" in place wasn't any sort of security other than assuming people wouldn't know about the proxy - and if you assume that, then you are retarded.
your analogies are poor at best, and either way, they are wrong in this case - sorry.
well, in our own site, the dipshit designer assumed nobody would figure out how the 32digit GUID in the URL was determined.
to show him he was wrong, I then did indeed figure out how it was determined (the username and date xor'ed) and then got into the database - and while I was at it - I showed them via a perl script how the credit card encrtyption algorithm (again a stupid xor'ing) was worthless for the most part if someone got in.
he didn't do anything than go to what they said was a wide open url - it was "secured" via obscurity - you weren't supposed to know about it.
I don't know how many times dipshits here in my office have suggested that parts of our app were sucure b/c "how would anyone ever figure out that url" - duh - so I showed them.
what pisses me off is these people are everywhere and don't get fired and are still allowed to make these retarded design decisions.
the update does help clarify it a bit... but not really. so they want to open communication a bit... that would imply that they woud still maintain other ways of encryption, not all... but if that is the case, then why not encrypt your communication via that method.... so that means in order to get around that, then you would have to open all crypto systems, which then gets us back to where we started - very bad things.
in light of what just happened, it very much seems that something needs to be done so that we can preventthis in the future - yet this isn't the solution at all.
frustratingly enough, the american public doesn't know or care to know enough about crypto to get why this is bad - sothey are all for anything that would help prevent this disaster - but they can't see past their nose to see the broad picture.
it is analogous (sp?) in many ways to the way that eveyrone is talking about going after Bin and bombing the countries and such - when that is a very minor part, there are many other terrorist orgs, and there are many people to take his place after we martyrize (sp?) him....
I certainly don't have the answers, but I'll gladly point out problems in bad solutions.
I've considered those - but I've also considered a laptop. I don't want a laptop b/c i like big ergo split keyboards - I can barely type on the normal kind (I have big hands and the MS natural keyboard was a godsend with the extra space).
last I saw those keypads, while they were cool the way they folded.... I still couldn't use them.
and even if they USB where you could plug in a natural keyboard... then it is still useless for obvious reasons.
The protocol was great (is great) for sending messages that you don't care if anyone else sees.
The two main problems I had with it were 1) the devices it was used on tended to have screens just slightly larger than my thumb - which again is perfectly fine if you want to send and display a message that says "you suck balls" to your friend in LA, but if you want to render out a page, then it looks god awful and you have to use short words. and then 2) it isn't secure at all, and it is slow... I guess that's really 3 there.
I work for a company that sells telcom software and I was given the task of porting an entire e-commerce site over to WAP - in about 2 weeks - which I did. but it was total idiocy - the number of forms and pages you had to go through was stupid and then it wasn't secure.
the only real good use of it was if you registered on the web via a computer, and then wanted to do small updates to your account via your handheld (buy more mins, recharge a pin, see your bill status).