Everyone keeps complaining that this was solved awhile ago. I posted back when it was solved.
so there. ------------------------------------------ --------
I was wondering the same thing. from the cutaway picture that they have, it seems that it has the blades for each way and then I'd presume a clutch that would then disengage the other side when one is receiving more power.
I think the idea is pretty cool and would like to see another link. ------------------------------------------- -------
Hmm, well, if that weren't there, then that energy would be used up in the resultant "crash" (visual and audible) that would happen against the wall there. I'm not necessairly thinkin gall that hard, but I cna't think of anything that will really miss the crash in one spot - not to disagree that there isn't something. Just that, the energy isn't going to be sucked up, it was going away anyway.
feel free to point out errors in my thinking. --------------------------------------- -----------
I lost over $10,000, but a lot of that was gains in the first place - depends if you are looking at losses from an accounting major point of view or an economic major's view. But I'm still down about $2K based on two lousy investments.
At least it will help come taxes (sold on some biggies, then lost a shitload and sold that and they negate each other for capital gains).
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I remember my friends in higher grades got into that and they had to light candles and shit to get in - I though that was fucked up, too close to cult/religion, and none of them gave a shit about it and were only doing it to look good on their college applications.
the teacher in charge of it approached me and told me that she was very pleased to tell me I had made it, and I told her I was very pleased to turn it down, thanks but no thanks. she acted as if I had just thrown up on her, I don't uderstand why she was so mad. they called my parents and "told on me" and then told the principal and I was called down. all very strange. I never joined them and still got into a better school than anyone that was on it.
so there. ------------------------------------------ --------
it seems that it would be easy to put a mouseball (or IR mouse) within that and then you don't need two modules. if you still wanted the ease of OS indep, then just make them separate cables.
that way you could just drag that around as the mouse, and have the buttons right there.
seems to make far more sense to me than to have two hands to do it.
am I missing something on that? ------------------------------------------- -------
I've said like 15 times now, I don't care if they do drugs and I completely agree with you that it should be legalized - then you get a cleaner product and you can get it on the cheap.
but for you to say I'm lying that that were on welfare, what the fuck is your deal, I went to school with these guys, I spoke with them, they WERE on welfare. there may have been reform in welfare, but I guarentee you (I grew up surrounded by it) there are plenty of people still screwing the system. I'm not sure where you live, but if you think otherwise, you are sadly mistaken.
on the good side we are all paying for it though via taxes, so that's all great. and I personally don't want to finance those assholes I went to school with that were stealing. I have no problem with the system were it to work. I have just seen too much abuse in it ---------------------------------------------- ----
yes, I personally feel that there is nothing wrong with that. beer and pot when used responsibly in relative moderation (I sure know "moderation" isn't usually how I'd explain my beer consumption) is harmless in my opinion. if you are old enough to know better and can financially bear the weight of doing so, then go for it. if you aren't even in high school yet, then I question it since you are still developing and both of those alter enough of your hormone levels that I'd say to avoid them until after high school.
I think DARE is appropriate for young kids, but at some point you are going to have to learn the lessons yourselves anyway.
my main beef with DARE is that they say that drugs are bad, and they aren't so bad, it is the consequences that come up that are directly correlated to drug use that are bad. -------------------------------------------- ------
that would only happen if you are taking in large amounts of alcohol and then the characteristic of pot to prevent you from puking would keep that alcohol in your system.
that said, beer has very little alcohol in it per volume. when you puke from beer, your stomch is usually reacting to the volume as opposed to thinking you are poisoned.
I've had some bad times with scotch and I'm sure I would have been dead if I had been smoking pot with it. the pot wouldn't have been bad, it just would have prevented the puke replex. ----------------------------------------- ---------
What the hell is wrong with you people - and why are you anon - at least I'm not hiding.
I'm not demonizing people that use drugs - I've used drugs. I don't have a problem with them using drugs - anyone that wants to, do to it and do your thing - as I thought I made clear was I DO have a problem that aren't responsible about it and let it take over their lives - those are called addicts. and even then, I don't care if they do that, I care about when their lack of concern for it ends uphurting others (kids not getting food, coworkers having to work harder, etc...).
What part of what I said was untrue? Point it out and we can discuss - but to say I'm wrong is bullshit. I can back up what I said with science - I'm not against drug use. But I am against some guy spending all of his welfare check on crack instead of paying for his rent. Why? I went to school with assholes that unfortunately had tough lives - I'm truly sorry for them - but instead of having any initiative and getting out of it, they gave up and got into crack because it made them feel good. they then went on to drop out of high school and entered the "real world" with no real appreciable skills to offer and thereby got no jobs. But they did have this little crack habit, so they got on welfare and robbed people's houses to keep up the habit.
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I went through all the DARE stuff as a youngster and thought cop that came in to talk to us was the coolest. I was a very good student and didn't drink or do drugs all throughout school up untilthe very end of my high school career. I was also at the top of the state in cross country, and I even was one of the athletes that went around to class rooms and told kids not to drink and why - along with kids I knew were using drugs. As a result I didn't go to a lot of parties and lost out on a lot of the social side of life. I then proceeded to get really loaded on Molsen Ice the last day of school and then the next day went on to win state qualifiers. That right there pretty much told me the whole thing was bullshit. I went to off to one fo the top schools in the nation (Williams College) and drank a ton and competed at the national level of cross country. I tried pot and shrooms and then drank a lot more. I never went back to the drugs but drank a lot and it wasn't until recently I finally decided it was just time to drink less and thereby spend a lot less time face down in my own vomit.
lesson learned because of DARE? No. Lesson learned because I'm mature enough to watch my own health and monitor my own health level. Yes.
Did I need government intervention and did any of the laws help me out? No. We drank regardless of our age, and we coudl get anything regardless of our age. Legalize it all, make people aware of how much of various substances will do to you, what you will feel, why that happens and why it might be wron gin the long run, and then let them fuck it up or do it right all by themselves. We can't handhold everyone and we shouldn't.
When I was in college I did a 3D graphics internship where I modeled in 3D what happens on the cellular level in your brain as you take and abuse various "illegal" drugs as well as "legal" ones. All very interesting - the only one that I truly would avoid from fear of harm is E - all the others don't do so much damage to your brain (coke wrecks your sinuses when snorted b/c it is abrasive to the soft tissue there) - they are just addictive and are likely to fuck up your life due to what happens to your bank account.
long and short of it - DARE kept me off drugs and alcohol while I was in elementary and most of high school - those are relatively important years in bodily development and I did well in school... would have been different if I han't been a part of DARE? probably, so I am for it. the only chance I would make is to educate further as to what really happens instead of saying that they are "bad" and make you feel "bad" and evil and all that. say they make you feel really good, but tell them what it does to all the organs and why that is bad. ------------------------------------------------ --
Think of all the religions around the world that say the world is only X years old. Then compare that number to 250 million years.
I'm personlly going with the science on this one. -------------------------------------------- ------
I had always been impressed with the apparent average IQ of people reading and posting to Slashdot - but some of the postings on here are just embarassingly stupid. How can people possibly truly get by in life being so oblivious? Go and read the studies - there is no proof that any of this is bad, and there are tons of worse things out there.
this is a great case of people being too stupid to understand a technology, so they fear it. --------------------------------------------- -----
so there are worries that it is causing brain cancer right? and you are having headaches right?
do 20 seconds of research and find out how related those tend to be.
you can't actually feel your brain, so I don't think you have to worry too much about the pain being from your brain cooking. if you feel warmth, it is far more likely from the quick discharge of your battery and having your hand against your head than it is from the antenna.
people are so quick to react, but there is usually a better reason than the compny that makes your product trying to kill you (cigarettes come to mind maybe) ------------------------------------------ --------
What are you talking about?
That is what this whole discussion is all about - there is a groups lobbying against them but so far no evidence has really been brought up. And to get rid of your phone is a bit silly (unless you were joking, then disregard all of this) - and some other people that have posted have made good points - there are tons of sources of this "radiation" thing and the phone is not necessarily the worst. ------------------------------------------ --------
What about movies such as Thirteenth Floor, Existenz, and the Matrix, not to mention Gibson and Stevenson and all the others - a whole city or world of avatars... no real game but mimicing real life and massivley parallel and networked?
What would be the point of these and do we have anything close to this now? The Sims is a lame attempt at it maybe. And why would you want this stuff - perhaps for simulations or psychology studies... military training. Or just b/c it is cool?
Are there any known efforts now to mimic any of these things? They seem like they'd be a lot fo fun to program, but approaching impossible since they can barely get a computer to mimic one real person let alone multiples up to a city level or even world.
cool though. ----------------------------------------- ---------
I was, for a long time, in the school of thought that while cool looking, none of the fancy graphics were really needed to have kick ass gameplay. I enjoyed every new game that came out and the new graphics and sound and such (Mean Streets by Access comes to mind), but the gameplay still needs to follow the same old basic thoughts.
Then recently I bought some of my favorite Atari games from my youth, but now they are available on Play Station and there are cds full of them. GREAT! so I loaded it up... and they all sucked. you could see them all for what they were, very minimal changes on the basic scrolling engine and boring as all hell.
so are the new games better, are my eyes spoiled by the new graphics, or am I just more analytical now that I program heavily myself?
I'm in the process of writing a game myself and I ask these questions to myself every night - I'd love to see some better answers to this question rather than "BEOWOLF!!! rock on !" ---------------------------------------------- ----
oh yeah... my bad. I'm not a good typist, nor linguist - combined it is hard to tell what the hell I'm ever trying to say.
There is some discussion on the list now as to whether it will stay active or not - I personall see no reason for shutting it down - but we shall see. -------------------------------------------- ------
Alos it should be noted that the egroups list that I just referred to has been slotted to be shut down on Oct 15 according to the list owner. ------------------------------------------ --------
If you go to egroups.com, there is a mailing list called "cipherchallange" that was devoted to this book. in the files section they have electronic versions of all the cipher texts as well as a ton of other data in there. ------------------------------------------ --------
It isn't that obscure - Simon Singh's last book was on Fermat - so it would actually make sense. Most of his codes had cute little things like that - the Viginere was in French, the Caesar was in Latin, etc etc. -------------------------------------------- ------
if you read the page on his site that discusses it you will see a code at the very bottom of the page... ----------------------------------------- ---------
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Everyone keeps complaining that this was solved awhile ago. I posted back when it was solved. so there.- --------
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I was wondering the same thing. from the cutaway picture that they have, it seems that it has the blades for each way and then I'd presume a clutch that would then disengage the other side when one is receiving more power.- -------
I think the idea is pretty cool and would like to see another link.
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Hmm, well, if that weren't there, then that energy would be used up in the resultant "crash" (visual and audible) that would happen against the wall there. I'm not necessairly thinkin gall that hard, but I cna't think of anything that will really miss the crash in one spot - not to disagree that there isn't something. Just that, the energy isn't going to be sucked up, it was going away anyway.- -----------
feel free to point out errors in my thinking.
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... my own childhood. At age 14 I becmae to heavily encrusted with space mold and my parents tried to ditch me in the Pacifc Ocean.
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Next time, try pants.
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I lost over $10,000, but a lot of that was gains in the first place - depends if you are looking at losses from an accounting major point of view or an economic major's view. But I'm still down about $2K based on two lousy investments. At least it will help come taxes (sold on some biggies, then lost a shitload and sold that and they negate each other for capital gains).- --------
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I remember my friends in higher grades got into that and they had to light candles and shit to get in - I though that was fucked up, too close to cult/religion, and none of them gave a shit about it and were only doing it to look good on their college applications.- --------
the teacher in charge of it approached me and told me that she was very pleased to tell me I had made it, and I told her I was very pleased to turn it down, thanks but no thanks. she acted as if I had just thrown up on her, I don't uderstand why she was so mad. they called my parents and "told on me" and then told the principal and I was called down. all very strange. I never joined them and still got into a better school than anyone that was on it.
so there.
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it seems that it would be easy to put a mouseball (or IR mouse) within that and then you don't need two modules. if you still wanted the ease of OS indep, then just make them separate cables.- -------
that way you could just drag that around as the mouse, and have the buttons right there. seems to make far more sense to me than to have two hands to do it.
am I missing something on that?
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I've said like 15 times now, I don't care if they do drugs and I completely agree with you that it should be legalized - then you get a cleaner product and you can get it on the cheap.- ----
but for you to say I'm lying that that were on welfare, what the fuck is your deal, I went to school with these guys, I spoke with them, they WERE on welfare. there may have been reform in welfare, but I guarentee you (I grew up surrounded by it) there are plenty of people still screwing the system. I'm not sure where you live, but if you think otherwise, you are sadly mistaken.
on the good side we are all paying for it though via taxes, so that's all great. and I personally don't want to finance those assholes I went to school with that were stealing. I have no problem with the system were it to work. I have just seen too much abuse in it
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yes, I personally feel that there is nothing wrong with that. beer and pot when used responsibly in relative moderation (I sure know "moderation" isn't usually how I'd explain my beer consumption) is harmless in my opinion. if you are old enough to know better and can financially bear the weight of doing so, then go for it. if you aren't even in high school yet, then I question it since you are still developing and both of those alter enough of your hormone levels that I'd say to avoid them until after high school.- ------
I think DARE is appropriate for young kids, but at some point you are going to have to learn the lessons yourselves anyway.
my main beef with DARE is that they say that drugs are bad, and they aren't so bad, it is the consequences that come up that are directly correlated to drug use that are bad.
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that would only happen if you are taking in large amounts of alcohol and then the characteristic of pot to prevent you from puking would keep that alcohol in your system.- ---------
that said, beer has very little alcohol in it per volume. when you puke from beer, your stomch is usually reacting to the volume as opposed to thinking you are poisoned.
I've had some bad times with scotch and I'm sure I would have been dead if I had been smoking pot with it. the pot wouldn't have been bad, it just would have prevented the puke replex.
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What the hell is wrong with you people - and why are you anon - at least I'm not hiding.
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I'm not demonizing people that use drugs - I've used drugs. I don't have a problem with them using drugs - anyone that wants to, do to it and do your thing - as I thought I made clear was I DO have a problem that aren't responsible about it and let it take over their lives - those are called addicts. and even then, I don't care if they do that, I care about when their lack of concern for it ends uphurting others (kids not getting food, coworkers having to work harder, etc...).
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What part of what I said was untrue? Point it out and we can discuss - but to say I'm wrong is bullshit. I can back up what I said with science - I'm not against drug use. But I am against some guy spending all of his welfare check on crack instead of paying for his rent. Why? I went to school with assholes that unfortunately had tough lives - I'm truly sorry for them - but instead of having any initiative and getting out of it, they gave up and got into crack because it made them feel good. they then went on to drop out of high school and entered the "real world" with no real appreciable skills to offer and thereby got no jobs. But they did have this little crack habit, so they got on welfare and robbed people's houses to keep up the habit.- --
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I went through all the DARE stuff as a youngster and thought cop that came in to talk to us was the coolest. I was a very good student and didn't drink or do drugs all throughout school up untilthe very end of my high school career. I was also at the top of the state in cross country, and I even was one of the athletes that went around to class rooms and told kids not to drink and why - along with kids I knew were using drugs. As a result I didn't go to a lot of parties and lost out on a lot of the social side of life. I then proceeded to get really loaded on Molsen Ice the last day of school and then the next day went on to win state qualifiers. That right there pretty much told me the whole thing was bullshit. I went to off to one fo the top schools in the nation (Williams College) and drank a ton and competed at the national level of cross country. I tried pot and shrooms and then drank a lot more. I never went back to the drugs but drank a lot and it wasn't until recently I finally decided it was just time to drink less and thereby spend a lot less time face down in my own vomit.
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lesson learned because of DARE? No. Lesson learned because I'm mature enough to watch my own health and monitor my own health level. Yes.
Did I need government intervention and did any of the laws help me out? No. We drank regardless of our age, and we coudl get anything regardless of our age. Legalize it all, make people aware of how much of various substances will do to you, what you will feel, why that happens and why it might be wron gin the long run, and then let them fuck it up or do it right all by themselves. We can't handhold everyone and we shouldn't.
When I was in college I did a 3D graphics internship where I modeled in 3D what happens on the cellular level in your brain as you take and abuse various "illegal" drugs as well as "legal" ones. All very interesting - the only one that I truly would avoid from fear of harm is E - all the others don't do so much damage to your brain (coke wrecks your sinuses when snorted b/c it is abrasive to the soft tissue there) - they are just addictive and are likely to fuck up your life due to what happens to your bank account.
long and short of it - DARE kept me off drugs and alcohol while I was in elementary and most of high school - those are relatively important years in bodily development and I did well in school... would have been different if I han't been a part of DARE? probably, so I am for it. the only chance I would make is to educate further as to what really happens instead of saying that they are "bad" and make you feel "bad" and evil and all that. say they make you feel really good, but tell them what it does to all the organs and why that is bad.
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Think of all the religions around the world that say the world is only X years old. Then compare that number to 250 million years.- ------
I'm personlly going with the science on this one.
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I had always been impressed with the apparent average IQ of people reading and posting to Slashdot - but some of the postings on here are just embarassingly stupid. How can people possibly truly get by in life being so oblivious? Go and read the studies - there is no proof that any of this is bad, and there are tons of worse things out there.- -----
this is a great case of people being too stupid to understand a technology, so they fear it.
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so there are worries that it is causing brain cancer right? and you are having headaches right?- --------
do 20 seconds of research and find out how related those tend to be.
you can't actually feel your brain, so I don't think you have to worry too much about the pain being from your brain cooking. if you feel warmth, it is far more likely from the quick discharge of your battery and having your hand against your head than it is from the antenna.
people are so quick to react, but there is usually a better reason than the compny that makes your product trying to kill you (cigarettes come to mind maybe)
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What are you talking about?- --------
That is what this whole discussion is all about - there is a groups lobbying against them but so far no evidence has really been brought up. And to get rid of your phone is a bit silly (unless you were joking, then disregard all of this) - and some other people that have posted have made good points - there are tons of sources of this "radiation" thing and the phone is not necessarily the worst.
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What about movies such as Thirteenth Floor, Existenz, and the Matrix, not to mention Gibson and Stevenson and all the others - a whole city or world of avatars... no real game but mimicing real life and massivley parallel and networked?- ---------
What would be the point of these and do we have anything close to this now? The Sims is a lame attempt at it maybe. And why would you want this stuff - perhaps for simulations or psychology studies... military training. Or just b/c it is cool?
Are there any known efforts now to mimic any of these things? They seem like they'd be a lot fo fun to program, but approaching impossible since they can barely get a computer to mimic one real person let alone multiples up to a city level or even world.
cool though.
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I was, for a long time, in the school of thought that while cool looking, none of the fancy graphics were really needed to have kick ass gameplay. I enjoyed every new game that came out and the new graphics and sound and such (Mean Streets by Access comes to mind), but the gameplay still needs to follow the same old basic thoughts.- ----
Then recently I bought some of my favorite Atari games from my youth, but now they are available on Play Station and there are cds full of them. GREAT! so I loaded it up... and they all sucked. you could see them all for what they were, very minimal changes on the basic scrolling engine and boring as all hell.
so are the new games better, are my eyes spoiled by the new graphics, or am I just more analytical now that I program heavily myself?
I'm in the process of writing a game myself and I ask these questions to myself every night - I'd love to see some better answers to this question rather than "BEOWOLF!!! rock on !"
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oh yeah... my bad. I'm not a good typist, nor linguist - combined it is hard to tell what the hell I'm ever trying to say. There is some discussion on the list now as to whether it will stay active or not - I personall see no reason for shutting it down - but we shall see.- ------
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how so?- -----
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Alos it should be noted that the egroups list that I just referred to has been slotted to be shut down on Oct 15 according to the list owner.- --------
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If you go to egroups.com, there is a mailing list called "cipherchallange" that was devoted to this book. in the files section they have electronic versions of all the cipher texts as well as a ton of other data in there.- --------
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It isn't that obscure - Simon Singh's last book was on Fermat - so it would actually make sense. Most of his codes had cute little things like that - the Viginere was in French, the Caesar was in Latin, etc etc.- ------
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if you read the page on his site that discusses it you will see a code at the very bottom of the page...- ---------
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