"What makes you think we can't do it as well as or better than they do?"
230+ years of watching government fuck up everything it touches.
And why, oh WHY, would you allow your government ANY hand in your healthcare choices? Doesn't it worry you that such a system can be used to punish malcontents? Or are you ignoring that inevitable reality because you like the idea of "free" healthcare?
And how come the privacy wonks famously disappear when nationalized healthcare is discussed? Doesn't it bother you that your private health information can be used for more than treatment choices? It should, because it will.
Now go ahead and tell me it won't happen. I could use the laugh.
"All these plans would not be that necessary if the USA kept out of other countries' business."
And just exactly how is that supposed to happen? How the fuck is the LARGEST ECONOMY IN THE WORLD supposed to "keep out of other countries' business"?
"But we will not leave them alone."
Again, how the fuck is that supposed to happen? The US withdraws totally and walls itself off from civilization? Total isolationism? Not only is that not possible, it doesn't do anything about the fact that the US has resources that some country somewhere will eventually want.
What then, Mr. Waste-of-Resources? I guess you could always complain on Slashdot if they invade...
We're part of the world. All the dumbass pie in the sky wishful thinking, passed off as peacenik wisdom, doesn't change that fact. Pretending it's possible to "leave them alone" just illustrates how far removed from reality you are.
And you'll notice, all the well thought out posts listing the very real reasons why your post is stupid sit there unloved, while your steaming pile is modded up. That says it all about the quality of thought that goes into moderation these days.
I agree with your assessment of your post. Apart from completely ignoring GP's points, you ran off on several tangents, and even managed to dismiss an argument that you should have addressed, but didn't have a rebuttal for.
"Why don't you shut the fuck up and go work on that low-budget horror movie of yours?"
Why don't you pay attention to who you're conversing with so you can realize more than one person here feels it necessary to tell you you're full of shit?
"Been there, done that, got the t-shirt."
Like I said, excuses we've heard before. You couldn't have proven my point about you better if you tried.
"anyway, pls send me a notice when u got somethin to say besides "nay, nay" and the letters of the alphabet "
Ok, how about this, if a subject is important enough to be worthy of discussing, it should be worthy of discussing intelligently, and using grammar and spelling that is as correct and coherent as possible. If you expect to be taken seriously when discussing serious topic, don't write like a god damned moron.
Otherwise, you'll be dismissed as a god damned moron. Like you just were.
"Being able to choose between a shit sandwich and a giant douchebag every four years on the first Tuesday in November isn't exactly a hell of a lot of control."
Then how about you stop pretending the only time anything political ever gets decided is "every four years on the first Tuesday in November" and get out there and actually do something in the meantime?
Or is actual action too much for you, when you could sit behind a computer and whine like a bitch instead?
You don't like a shit sandwich? Then stop whining Lucy and get YOUR guy elected. Oh, wait you're SURE it wouldn't happen, so that gives you an excuse for not even trying. Blah blah, save it, we got tired of your kind when the rest of us grew up. That shit you're spewing got old way before we finished high school, it's just that no one ever liked you enough to tell you.
Local elections matter. State elections matter. Those occur more than "every four years on the first Tuesday in November". So stop pretending anything you say is accurate. You're just another whiny, overly opinionated do-nothing who thinks that bitching about things is equivalent to accomplishing something.
From one of my links (which you didn;t read, you fucking liar)
"Chronic cocaine intake causes...a loss of vesicular monoamine transporters, neurofilament proteins, and other morphological changes that indicate a long term damage of dopamine neurons."
I caught you lying again, you might want to look into that compulsive lying/sociopathic/narcissistic personality disorder thin you have. I can't see any othe rexplanation for someone who would lie, get caught, make up a new lie, get caught and proven wrong again, and then CONTINUE TO LIE after getting proven wrong again.
"It's his own fault that he got upset over being threatened and made fun of constantly for several years."
You're exactly right. His reaction is independent of their action. No part of what they did REQUIRES him to react the way he did, he chose to.
"I mean seriously, I'd find it hilarious if people called up my house and left insulting and racist messages for my mother to hear, and I'm sure she would too."
However you CHOOSE to react, their actions are not the cause. YOUR DECISION TO ACT THAT WAY is the cause. It's not hard, no matter how you try to distort it.
Welcome to grownupville. Here we don't say thing like "I hit him because he called me a name" or "he did it first!!!". We leave that to children who haven't learned to hold themselves responsible for their actions, INCLUDING how they react to difficult people. Perhaps one day you will make it to grownupville too.
"I'm finished giving my opinion"
Thank you, I was about to tell you to stop because you were making an ass of yourself. Not that you have to listen, it would be your choice.
"'Up regulation'" is not equivalent to organ damage"
You are obviously dumber than you appear from your posts.
"Up regulation" is a permanent change in the functioning of your brain (which is an ORGAN) you fucking moron. The change causes your neurotransmitters to function incorrectly (which is damage) you fucking imbecile.
"Up regulation is a physiological explanation of cocaine's addictiveness"
NO YOU FUCKING TWAT. Up regulation is a permanent change in the way your body processes neurotransmitters, and is NOT IN ANY WAY an explanation of its addictiveness. It is used to describe your body's adaptation to a foreign substance, and occurs with some substances WHICH ARE NOT ADDICTIVE IN ANY WAY. So you explanation of why you aren't wrong is a lie too.
You were wrong and you know it.
"Note that replies with irrelevant links to google searches 2 days from now will likely be ignored."
Good thing I gave you a completely relevant link to a relevant search that showed you were a liar. I know you didn't red any of the RESEARCH PAPERS because if you had, your only reply would be "yes you were right and I was not".
You were right about one thing though, you WILL ignore it. That's what bitches like you do when they're shown to be liars.
God, what the fuck is wrong with you? Is your life so empty and meaningless that lying about cocaine, then insisting you are right even after being unequivocally proven wrong seems like a good idea? How much coke have you snorted to damage your brain (WHICH IS AN ORGAN YOU FUCKING IMBECILE)?
"One of the challenges was to go through a redneck populated area with "country music sucks" or "Man love rules!" painted on their cars. It quickly got physical with the locals."
First of all, no it didn't "quickly get physical" that is simply a lie. That you would reosrt to lying about an incident anyone can see for themselves says a lot about your character, or lack thereof.
Second, you're clearly very stupid, so read this several times til you get it. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A GROUD OF DUMBASSES AND A GOVERNMENT SANCTIONED AUTHORITY.
I'll leave it to you to figure out why your post is garbage.
"The worst case of mass murder in Europe in the last sixty years was Christians killing Muslims."
Tribe on tribe violence, not related to religion.
"Rwanda is overwhelmingly Christian. A MILLION people were quartered, shot, buried and/or burnt alive--often inside their churches...in one case at least, incited by their own priest."
More tribe on tribe violence, unrelated to religion.
It's nice that you tried so hard, but you failed. Badly. And looked like an ignorant twat in the process.
"Has it occurred to you, even once, to examine how our history of dealing with these people shapes their reactions?"
Not really, but that's because I find there's really no excuse for the type of violence they engage in.
More importantly, I don't hold myself responsible for the actions of grown adults. They make choices for which THEY THEMSELVES are accountable. And their religion agrees with me, so you lose on that point.
"Most of it goes back to white colonialism's thousand-year history..."
Blah, blah blah, fuck off with your white European guilt you fucking tosser. ALL of it goes back to a current unwillingness to forgo violence. PERIOD. Morons like you excusing bad behavior because something bad happened sometime long ago fail to realize that your idiotic justification fails totally BECAUSE WE HAVE FREE WILL.
You know, it never ceases to amaze me the contortions you imbeciles go through to be contrarian.
If that was the best you could do, you should have just said "No, I can't find any examples" so you could avoid looking like a fucking moron.
Because you didn't list any examples that address what GP asked for, and you did look like a fucking moron being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian.
"Did their supposed anonymity give them constitutional rights to be fucktards, or more importantly, to cause my family grief and humiliation?"
Listen crybaby, I'll explain this to you so you'll avoid looking like a bitch again.
THEY DID NOT CAUSE YOUR FAMILY ANYTHING. THEY ENGAGED IN AN ACTIVITY, WHICH YOU CHOSE TO RESPOND TO WITH GRIEF AND HUMILIATION. YOU CHOSE HOW TO REACT TO THEM AND YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE TO BLAME FOR HOW YOU FEEL.
Grow the fuck up. Your post was the definition of pathetic.
"Just what part of "correlation does not equal causation" do you not understand, dipshit?"
Just why are you so stupid that you think this matters.
THEY USED POT IMMEDIATELY BEFORE DRIVING, THEN CRASHED. POT IS KNOWN TO IMPAIR PERCEPTION. THAT IS CAUSATION BY DEFINITION YOU FUCKING TWAT.
Stop trying so hard to avoid admitting you're wrong and an idiot.
That has nothing to do with "correlation" and you being too fucking dumb to realize it doesn't change that.
I gave you EXACTLY what you asked for, you just hate that it proves you wrong, so you flail about looking for moronic excuses. BUt they fail, just like you.
I proved you wrong, grow up and admit it instead of finding less and less relevant objections you fucking cunt, you'll sound far less pathetic that way.
"If I thought you were worth two shits, I'd argue with you. Instead..."
NO, you wouldn't liar. You never do. You immediately go to sexual nonsense as soon as you have to "argue". And it's funny that you think you made a point here, while being too stupid to realize you are arguing with me, you're just losing.
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And you'll notice, you didn't answer my questions, you just spouted your opinion about abuses. It was fun to read, but ultimately worthless.
"Nothing in being the largest economy of the world force you to have a big army"
Except that other countries would want to forcibly acquire said economy, which moots your point totally.
You fail. Badly.
"What makes you think we can't do it as well as or better than they do?"
230+ years of watching government fuck up everything it touches.
And why, oh WHY, would you allow your government ANY hand in your healthcare choices? Doesn't it worry you that such a system can be used to punish malcontents? Or are you ignoring that inevitable reality because you like the idea of "free" healthcare?
And how come the privacy wonks famously disappear when nationalized healthcare is discussed? Doesn't it bother you that your private health information can be used for more than treatment choices? It should, because it will.
Now go ahead and tell me it won't happen. I could use the laugh.
"All these plans would not be that necessary if the USA kept out of other countries' business."
And just exactly how is that supposed to happen? How the fuck is the LARGEST ECONOMY IN THE WORLD supposed to "keep out of other countries' business"?
"But we will not leave them alone."
Again, how the fuck is that supposed to happen? The US withdraws totally and walls itself off from civilization? Total isolationism? Not only is that not possible, it doesn't do anything about the fact that the US has resources that some country somewhere will eventually want.
What then, Mr. Waste-of-Resources? I guess you could always complain on Slashdot if they invade...
We're part of the world. All the dumbass pie in the sky wishful thinking, passed off as peacenik wisdom, doesn't change that fact. Pretending it's possible to "leave them alone" just illustrates how far removed from reality you are.
And you'll notice, all the well thought out posts listing the very real reasons why your post is stupid sit there unloved, while your steaming pile is modded up. That says it all about the quality of thought that goes into moderation these days.
"In summary: FAIL."
I agree with your assessment of your post. Apart from completely ignoring GP's points, you ran off on several tangents, and even managed to dismiss an argument that you should have addressed, but didn't have a rebuttal for.
Ii agree, you FAILed badly.
"Why don't you shut the fuck up and go work on that low-budget horror movie of yours?"
Why don't you pay attention to who you're conversing with so you can realize more than one person here feels it necessary to tell you you're full of shit?
"Been there, done that, got the t-shirt."
Like I said, excuses we've heard before. You couldn't have proven my point about you better if you tried.
"anyway, pls send me a notice when u got somethin to say besides "nay, nay" and the letters of the alphabet "
Ok, how about this, if a subject is important enough to be worthy of discussing, it should be worthy of discussing intelligently, and using grammar and spelling that is as correct and coherent as possible. If you expect to be taken seriously when discussing serious topic, don't write like a god damned moron.
Otherwise, you'll be dismissed as a god damned moron. Like you just were.
"Being able to choose between a shit sandwich and a giant douchebag every four years on the first Tuesday in November isn't exactly a hell of a lot of control."
Then how about you stop pretending the only time anything political ever gets decided is "every four years on the first Tuesday in November" and get out there and actually do something in the meantime?
Or is actual action too much for you, when you could sit behind a computer and whine like a bitch instead?
You don't like a shit sandwich? Then stop whining Lucy and get YOUR guy elected. Oh, wait you're SURE it wouldn't happen, so that gives you an excuse for not even trying. Blah blah, save it, we got tired of your kind when the rest of us grew up. That shit you're spewing got old way before we finished high school, it's just that no one ever liked you enough to tell you.
Local elections matter. State elections matter. Those occur more than "every four years on the first Tuesday in November". So stop pretending anything you say is accurate. You're just another whiny, overly opinionated do-nothing who thinks that bitching about things is equivalent to accomplishing something.
"doesnt that sound stupid to u?"
Honestly, no. What DOES sound stupid to me is using "u" in place of "you" in an intelligent, adult conversation and expecting to be taken seriously.
From one of my links (which you didn;t read, you fucking liar)
"Chronic cocaine intake causes...a loss of vesicular monoamine transporters, neurofilament proteins, and other morphological changes that indicate a long term damage of dopamine neurons."
I caught you lying again, you might want to look into that compulsive lying/sociopathic/narcissistic personality disorder thin you have. I can't see any othe rexplanation for someone who would lie, get caught, make up a new lie, get caught and proven wrong again, and then CONTINUE TO LIE after getting proven wrong again.
You lose bitch.
"It's his own fault that he got upset over being threatened and made fun of constantly for several years."
You're exactly right. His reaction is independent of their action. No part of what they did REQUIRES him to react the way he did, he chose to.
"I mean seriously, I'd find it hilarious if people called up my house and left insulting and racist messages for my mother to hear, and I'm sure she would too."
However you CHOOSE to react, their actions are not the cause. YOUR DECISION TO ACT THAT WAY is the cause. It's not hard, no matter how you try to distort it.
Welcome to grownupville. Here we don't say thing like "I hit him because he called me a name" or "he did it first!!!". We leave that to children who haven't learned to hold themselves responsible for their actions, INCLUDING how they react to difficult people. Perhaps one day you will make it to grownupville too.
"I'm finished giving my opinion"
Thank you, I was about to tell you to stop because you were making an ass of yourself. Not that you have to listen, it would be your choice.
"'Up regulation'" is not equivalent to organ damage"
You are obviously dumber than you appear from your posts.
"Up regulation" is a permanent change in the functioning of your brain (which is an ORGAN) you fucking moron. The change causes your neurotransmitters to function incorrectly (which is damage) you fucking imbecile.
"Up regulation is a physiological explanation of cocaine's addictiveness"
NO YOU FUCKING TWAT. Up regulation is a permanent change in the way your body processes neurotransmitters, and is NOT IN ANY WAY an explanation of its addictiveness. It is used to describe your body's adaptation to a foreign substance, and occurs with some substances WHICH ARE NOT ADDICTIVE IN ANY WAY. So you explanation of why you aren't wrong is a lie too.
You were wrong and you know it.
"Note that replies with irrelevant links to google searches 2 days from now will likely be ignored."
Good thing I gave you a completely relevant link to a relevant search that showed you were a liar. I know you didn't red any of the RESEARCH PAPERS because if you had, your only reply would be "yes you were right and I was not".
You were right about one thing though, you WILL ignore it. That's what bitches like you do when they're shown to be liars.
God, what the fuck is wrong with you? Is your life so empty and meaningless that lying about cocaine, then insisting you are right even after being unequivocally proven wrong seems like a good idea? How much coke have you snorted to damage your brain (WHICH IS AN ORGAN YOU FUCKING IMBECILE)?
"So why not just check it then and admit you're wrong? "
Why don't you stop being a hypocrite? I proved you were a liar and wrong right here
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=432182&cid=22234998
And you have yet to admit it. You ran and hid like a bitch.
So save the holier-than-thou, you fucking twat.
"These guys smoked pot. Then they drove a vehicle. Then the ended up in a car accident. Therefore, smoking pot causes accidents."
Contributes, not causes.
Now you see why you're too stupid to continue this conversation.
"One of the challenges was to go through a redneck populated area with "country music sucks" or "Man love rules!" painted on their cars. It quickly got physical with the locals."
First of all, no it didn't "quickly get physical" that is simply a lie. That you would reosrt to lying about an incident anyone can see for themselves says a lot about your character, or lack thereof.
Second, you're clearly very stupid, so read this several times til you get it. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A GROUD OF DUMBASSES AND A GOVERNMENT SANCTIONED AUTHORITY.
I'll leave it to you to figure out why your post is garbage.
"You, pardner."
+1
"The worst case of mass murder in Europe in the last sixty years was Christians killing Muslims."
Tribe on tribe violence, not related to religion.
"Rwanda is overwhelmingly Christian. A MILLION people were quartered, shot, buried and/or burnt alive--often inside their churches...in one case at least, incited by their own priest."
More tribe on tribe violence, unrelated to religion.
It's nice that you tried so hard, but you failed. Badly. And looked like an ignorant twat in the process.
"Has it occurred to you, even once, to examine how our history of dealing with these people shapes their reactions?"
Not really, but that's because I find there's really no excuse for the type of violence they engage in.
More importantly, I don't hold myself responsible for the actions of grown adults. They make choices for which THEY THEMSELVES are accountable. And their religion agrees with me, so you lose on that point.
"Most of it goes back to white colonialism's thousand-year history..."
Blah, blah blah, fuck off with your white European guilt you fucking tosser. ALL of it goes back to a current unwillingness to forgo violence. PERIOD. Morons like you excusing bad behavior because something bad happened sometime long ago fail to realize that your idiotic justification fails totally BECAUSE WE HAVE FREE WILL.
Fuck off now.
You know, it never ceases to amaze me the contortions you imbeciles go through to be contrarian.
If that was the best you could do, you should have just said "No, I can't find any examples" so you could avoid looking like a fucking moron.
Because you didn't list any examples that address what GP asked for, and you did look like a fucking moron being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian.
"and eerily perfect grammar"
BZZZZT. Not even close.
"Did their supposed anonymity give them constitutional rights to be fucktards, or more importantly, to cause my family grief and humiliation?"
Listen crybaby, I'll explain this to you so you'll avoid looking like a bitch again.
THEY DID NOT CAUSE YOUR FAMILY ANYTHING. THEY ENGAGED IN AN ACTIVITY, WHICH YOU CHOSE TO RESPOND TO WITH GRIEF AND HUMILIATION. YOU CHOSE HOW TO REACT TO THEM AND YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE TO BLAME FOR HOW YOU FEEL.
Grow the fuck up. Your post was the definition of pathetic.
"Mostly we get hydrogen from water"
NO, that's wrong. I love seeing posts modded up to +5 when they're factually incorrect.
http://www.fuelcellpartnership.org/fact_sheets/factsheet_hydrogen.html
"Currently, most hydrogen is produced by steam reforming natural gas."
NOT water. Natural gas. NOT WATER.
Parent's entire post is wrong. He's not insightful, he's just running off at the mouth. Nothing he said is accurate at all.
Stop modding people up when you're ignorant of the subject.
Keep dancing bitch.
I haven't given you permission to stop yet.
That is easily the dumbest thing anyone has ever typed.
"Just what part of "correlation does not equal causation" do you not understand, dipshit?"
Just why are you so stupid that you think this matters.
THEY USED POT IMMEDIATELY BEFORE DRIVING, THEN CRASHED. POT IS KNOWN TO IMPAIR PERCEPTION. THAT IS CAUSATION BY DEFINITION YOU FUCKING TWAT.
Stop trying so hard to avoid admitting you're wrong and an idiot.
That has nothing to do with "correlation" and you being too fucking dumb to realize it doesn't change that.
I gave you EXACTLY what you asked for, you just hate that it proves you wrong, so you flail about looking for moronic excuses. BUt they fail, just like you.
I proved you wrong, grow up and admit it instead of finding less and less relevant objections you fucking cunt, you'll sound far less pathetic that way.
"Prove me right. Reply again"
Told you.
"If I thought you were worth two shits, I'd argue with you. Instead..."
NO, you wouldn't liar. You never do. You immediately go to sexual nonsense as soon as you have to "argue". And it's funny that you think you made a point here, while being too stupid to realize you are arguing with me, you're just losing.
And being my bitch.
"Your analogy is in error. The US Postal Service does not receive any taxpayer money to operate"
Your entire statement is in error, the post office recieved 3 BILLION dollars in subsidies from the government in 2007. From YOUR link
"Capital contributions of U.S. government $ 3,034 (Dollars in millions audited)"
http://www.usps.com/history/anrpt07/highlights.htm
You are wrong.